Can MAG be done on 360 ? yes or no

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[QUOTE="Anjunaddict"]

Thats unfortunate. And MAG is nothing revolutionary either.

furomaster_99

name a console game that has as 256 people on one server.

"if i dont see it, then it doesnt exist" This is a pretty lame excuse if you ask me...

So for example, since no PS3 shooter has local coop (split screen), then i assume PS3 couldnt handle Halo3, L4D2 and Gears2...

[QUOTE="windsquid9000"]

Every PS3 exclusive can only be done on the PS3 :roll:

EDIT: About the player-count. Quality >>>>>>> Quantity. 'Nuff said.

drakecool1

so youre saying the creaters of MAG are all wrong ?

I would say that any developer that has not worked on another platform is slightly ignorant. Also, it's in their best interest to promote the PS3. When I hear a neutral game company that has done heavy development on both systems then I will believe it when they say that game X can't be done on system Y. Until then, I smell bs.

who cares. i mean really?

Bunj84

What does player count have to do with the power of the system?

Yes, it could easily be done on the Xbox 360. In fact, due to the userbase on the Xbox 360, and the sheer amount of users with Mics -- I'm sure it would actually be a better experience on the Xbox 360.Stevo_the_gamer

agreed

although i'm kinda happy it's only on the PS3...gives me a reason to actually play something online on my PS3...if it were on the 360 i'd play that version in a heartbeat over the PS3 version

Yes, it could easily be done on the Xbox 360.Stevo_the_gamer

First off Battlefield Bad Company 2 on the 360 has 24 players. Second the 360 could easily achive 256 players. I wouldn't trust a statement like that from a Sony 1st party dev with very little to no experiance on the 360.

What a shock.... A Sony Second party developer saying it can't be done... Whether it can or can't.... This game is not outstanding from the reviews so who really cares? IGN says the games is somewhat broken... When one team wins they level up and continue to have an advantage. This allows for teams to get so advanced that they are unbeatable. No way to choose maps so you could play the same map multiple times in a row. And the game is not in the same league as COD MW2. So does it really matter?

First off Battlefield Bad Company 2 on the 360 has 24 players. Second the 360 could easily achive 256 players. I wouldn't trust a statement like that from a Sony 1st party dev with very little to no experiance on the 360.

Wasdie

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

First off Battlefield Bad Company 2 on the 360 has 24 players. Second the 360 could easily achive 256 players. I wouldn't trust a statement like that from a Sony 1st party dev with very little to no experiance on the 360.

methinksyou

It's called credibillity. Would you trust a hair care treatment statement from a company who made the product, or from an independent study??

[QUOTE="methinksyou"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]

First off Battlefield Bad Company 2 on the 360 has 24 players. Second the 360 could easily achive 256 players. I wouldn't trust a statement like that from a Sony 1st party dev with very little to no experiance on the 360.

siddhu33

It's called credibillity. Would you trust a hair care treatment statement from a company who made the product, or from an independent study??

Oh and some random people in a forum have more credibility...okmethinksyou

Basically you are saying you have no problem with the credibility of Sony saying their console is the best, after all they made it; so they should know best?

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

First off Battlefield Bad Company 2 on the 360 has 24 players. Second the 360 could easily achive 256 players. I wouldn't trust a statement like that from a Sony 1st party dev with very little to no experiance on the 360.

methinksyou

[QUOTE="methinksyou"]Oh and some random people in a forum have more credibility...okAnnoyedDragon

Basically you are saying you have no problem with the credibility of Sony saying their console is the best, after all they made it; so they should know best?

so youre saying the creaters of MAG are all wrong ?

drakecool1

Every PS3 exclusive can only be done on the PS3 :roll:

EDIT: About the player-count. Quality >>>>>>> Quantity. 'Nuff said.

windsquid9000

[QUOTE="Anjunaddict"]If Bungie came out and said Halo 3 couldn't be done on the PS3, would you believe it because it comes straight from Bungies mouth?drakecool1

I would believe it, but Bungie did not say it, therefore Halo 3 could be done on PS3.

btw theres nothing revolutionary or special in halo 3 unlike MAG

I never said thatmethinksyou

It doesn't matter if you did or not, it is the rational you are using.

Sony says it cannot be done on 360; and you believe them, ignoring that they just happen to be the owners of PS3 and are in direct competition with 360. You are using them as a authority figure despite their obvious bias.

[QUOTE="windsquid9000"]

Every PS3 exclusive can only be done on the PS3 :roll:

EDIT: About the player-count. Quality >>>>>>> Quantity. 'Nuff said.

drakecool1

so youre saying the creaters of MAG are all wrong ?

[QUOTE="methinksyou"]I never said thatAnnoyedDragon

It doesn't matter if you did or not, it is the rational you are using.

Sony says it cannot be done on 360; and you believe them, ignoring that they just happen to be the owners of PS3 and are in direct competition with 360. You are using them as a authority figure despite the obvious bias.

Shall i believe the game creators ( which hapeened to be a Sony dev. ) or some random ignorant forum posters ??????

it's a tough call.

Shall i believe the game creators ( which hapeened to be a Sony dev. ) or some random ignorant forum posters ??????

it's a tough call.

2mrw

Please Zipper; MAG CAN be done on the 360, stop saying those lies. An awful game like MAG can be done on any of those 2 consoles. Miroku32

so now AAE's are awful are we only allowed to play AAAAE and AAAE ?

I think the bigger question is would 360 owners want mag?

Having played it since itsUK launch I have to conclude its about as inspiring as being kicked in the nuts.

Very unbalanced with Valour being virtuallyunbeatable, treacle like movement, uninspiring character leveling, hit detection issues, poor draw distance and visually weak add up to not a great experience. Oh did I mention the not so hot level design or the fact that you tend to end up playing the same map constantly?

And seeing as the PS3 online community is virtually mute, if anything this would be a better game on 360 as to get anything approaching a smirk of enjoyment out of MAG communication is critically important, and thats one thing LIVE has in abundance is a loudmouth community.

it could probs be done, but the lag would be unbeleivable on 360 since no dedicated servers..

and then they say live>>>>>>>>>psn

live(lag) and psn (no lag)....who wins?

Yes, it can be done. Zipper has never tried. Battlefield 1943 runs just fine on Xbox 360.

I don't believe anything a developer says who doesn't have any games made for the system they are bashing.

MAG is an MMO, you just don't have to pay a fee. Just like Guild Wars. FF XI ran on XBox 360 just fine. That guys doesn't know what he's talking about. If it can be done on a PC, it can be done on the XBox 360.

Oh and you like to put words in my mouth. Learn how to debate, i also liked how you ignored the rest of my post...methinksyou

I wasn't attempting to put words into your mouth, I was creating an example argument using your rational to attempt to show to you that it is flawed.

it could probs be done, but the lag would be unbeleivable on 360 since no dedicated servers..

and then they say live>>>>>>>>>psn

live(lag) and psn (no lag)....who wins?

planbfreak4eva

can it be done on 360? thats up to microsoft and their game developers to figure out

the architecture in mag isnt just about the dedicated servers, other wise we'd be making claims that the wii or even the ps2 could handle 256 online with little lag if they used dedicated servers

the architecture is about the connection between the dedicated servers and the cell processor

[QUOTE="methinksyou"]Oh and you like to put words in my mouth. Learn how to debate, i also liked how you ignored the rest of my post...AnnoyedDragon

I wasn't attempting to put words into your mouth, I was creating an example argument using your rational to attempt to show to you that it is flawed.

[QUOTE="planbfreak4eva"]

it could probs be done, but the lag would be unbeleivable on 360 since no dedicated servers..

and then they say live>>>>>>>>>psn

live(lag) and psn (no lag)....who wins?

mitu123

[QUOTE="windsquid9000"]

Every PS3 exclusive can only be done on the PS3 :roll:

EDIT: About the player-count. Quality >>>>>>> Quantity. 'Nuff said.

drakecool1

so youre saying the creaters of MAG are all wrong ?

I haven't experience much lag in any of the 360 games I've played online. Only lag I've seen was in one of the NBA 2K games a long time ago and it turned out if was the game having the problem, not the network. I haven't play too many games on PSN. Most are lag free because there aren't many people playing them.

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[QUOTE="methinksyou"]Oh and some random people in a forum have more credibility...okmethinksyou

Basically you are saying you have no problem with the credibility of Sony saying their console is the best, after all they made it; so they should know best?

And where is the credibility from a developer that has never developed a game for the 360?

Shall i believe the game creators ( which hapeened to be a Sony dev. ) or some random ignorant forum posters ??????

it's a tough call.

2mrw

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="planbfreak4eva"]

it could probs be done, but the lag would be unbeleivable on 360 since no dedicated servers..

and then they say live>>>>>>>>>psn

live(lag) and psn (no lag)....who wins?

planbfreak4eva

[QUOTE="drakecool1"]

[QUOTE="windsquid9000"]

Every PS3 exclusive can only be done on the PS3 :roll:

EDIT: About the player-count. Quality >>>>>>> Quantity. 'Nuff said.

XanderZane

so youre saying the creaters of MAG are all wrong ?

actually no, theyre not clueless, at least no where near as clueless as random people on the internet

like i said in my previous post, the architecture behind mag isnt just about dedicated servers, its about the interaction between the dedicated servers and the cell processor

the entire game of mag is happening in real time and those SPUs are really being put to work when it comes to amount of real time number crunching thats going on, the graphics card is hardly even being used

so what does this have to do with xbox 360? zipper works with the PPE on the cell which the xbox has 3 of and that ppe isnt doing any of the hard work because it cant handle it so it just helps the SPUs

but the xenos and the cell are equal right? wrong

[QUOTE="2mrw"]

Shall i believe the game creators ( which hapeened to be a Sony dev. ) or some random ignorant forum posters ??????

it's a tough call.

IronBass

[QUOTE="planbfreak4eva"][QUOTE="mitu123"] You do know some 360 games have dedicated servers right, games like Frontlines: Fuel of War does 50 players on 360 ONLY with dedicated servers.

mitu123

i'm just wondering where the live money is going to ? probably putting microsoft workers kids to college

No lag on PSN has to be a joke. The few times I played Resistance: Fall of Man it was laggy as hell. Not every match but a couple. Xbox Live I noticed lag on Gears of War 2 and the occasional person that got host in Halo 3 running wireless on 56k in Mexico downloading music and videos at the same time.

[QUOTE="XanderZane"][QUOTE="drakecool1"]

so youre saying the creaters of MAG are all wrong ?

i_am_interested

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="planbfreak4eva"] some, not the majot games, such as halo, gears1,2 and lots of others...hell there is lag in gears 2 when u play 5 vs 5..and mag u play 128 vs 128 no lag...no lag in warhawk, resistance 1,2, kz2, and others...drakecool1

i'm just wondering where the live money is going to ? probably putting microsoft workers kids to college

Not sure about anyone else that pays for Xbox Live but I don't want dedicated servers. They cons out weigh the pros. Sure, they help with lag (does not elimiate lag) but when they get shutdown that means your game that you payed for is shutdown. That is far worst than dealing with the occasional lag. Look at all the sports games and recently Chrome Hounds. That is complete bs if you ask me.

Ok...let me try it, with you. Lemmings says it can be done on 360; and you believe them, ignoring that they just happen to be biased and want to downplay the ps3 and their games,aswell as cows. You are using them as a authority figure despite their obvious bias.methinksyou

No I am not going by their word, I am going by a educated guess.

There are games on PC that offer over a 1000 AI units within a single battle, I think consoles can handle 256 units. Unlike Arma II however the console does not have to do the computational work for the AI, so 256 units are less intensive on the hardware. The stress is on the server end; getting that many players into one game and managing them all. Management on the console end is updating the locations and actions of that many players, which is more a matter of Internet bandwidth than CPU performance.

When it comes down to it the PS3 and 360 are not that far apart in performance. They have the same total memory and around the same GPU power; with the main difference being the CPU architecture.

Between that and Sony saying 360 cannot do it for the Xth time; I'd believe my own rational.

[QUOTE="2mrw"]

Shall i believe the game creators ( which hapeened to be a Sony dev. ) or some random ignorant forum posters ??????

it's a tough call.