Can MAG be done on 360 ? yes or no

I have to agree that the big exclusives on the 360 don't have dedicated servers, doesn't make sense to me. Then again, it's Microsoft.

drakecool1

i'm just wondering where the live money is going to ? probably putting microsoft workers kids to college

you've already made a quip similar to this...why are you making it again? no one responded the 1st time.

[QUOTE="drakecool1"] I have to agree that the big exclusives on the 360 don't have dedicated servers, doesn't make sense to me. Then again, it's Microsoft.

clone01

i'm just wondering where the live money is going to ? probably putting microsoft workers kids to college

you've already made a quip similar to this...why are you making it again? no one responded the 1st time.

He's trying to rally his fellow bovine brothers.......

Attack!!!!!!

from a review I saw you cant get the 256 in one space... kinda defeats the object of having 256 players to brag about.

It can't be done on the 360 just as any PS3 exclusive can't be done on the 360 because they aren't making it on the 360 so it can't be since that's the company's decision.

Any 360 exclusive can't be done on the PS3 because they aren't making it on the PS3 so it can't be since that's the company's decision.

It can't be done on the 360 just as any PS3 exclusive can't be done on the 360 because they aren't making it on the 360 so it can't be since that's the company's decision.

Any 360 exclusive can't be done on the PS3 because they aren't making it on the PS3 so it can't be since that's the company's decision.

patriots7672

This post is Epic Win.

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[QUOTE="XanderZane"][QUOTE="drakecool1"]

so youre saying the creaters of MAG are all wrong ?

i_am_interested

actually no, theyre not clueless, at least no where near as clueless as random people on the internet

like i said in my previous post, the architecture behind mag isnt just about dedicated servers, its about the interaction between the dedicated servers and the cell processor

the entire game of mag is happening in real time and those SPUs are really being put to work when it comes to amount of real time number crunching thats going on, the graphics card is hardly even being used

so what does this have to do with xbox 360? zipper works with the PPE on the cell which the xbox has 3 of and that ppe isnt doing any of the hard work because it cant handle it so it just helps the SPUs

but the xenos and the cell are equal right? wrong

More Cell mumbo jumbo I see here, lets not forget as one poster mentioned about 5 pages ago a little PC game released in 99 called Planetside, a massive multiplayer FPS that regularly hosted 500 player battles, um all this on a Pentium 3 with 256mb?

[QUOTE="windsquid9000"][QUOTE="drakecool1"]

so youre saying the creaters of MAG are all wrong ?

Anjunaddict

:lol:

Any exclusive can be done on 360, but only in the sense that Half-Life 2 for the original Xbox was a port of HL2 for PC. While I doubt the cnahges would be that drastic with proper work, multiple discs and lowered graphical quality in some would be necessary.

MAG is different in that while it would also be the same considering how much work went into it for using PS3's capabilites just to make it look like that for the 256 player battles, I imagine it wouldn't just be graphics but player count. With enough lowered players the graphics could be much better, but that would just kill the game's spirit.

Besides, MS would never give up full freedom of access and supportto a company for using their servers. Of course I'm surethe lems aretoo busy playing ME2 to care about that sort of thing, silly cows.

Sony needs to hire some new PR :P this type of bragging is getting oldsalxis

[QUOTE="i_am_interested"][QUOTE="XanderZane"] I'm saying the creators of MAG are clueless. They don't even have a 360 Dev Kit. XBox 360 does have some dedicate servers, so having a 256 player game isn't impossible. It's just up to the developer to make it at that scale. What games have Zipper made for the Xbox 360? Nuff said.XanderZane

they know exactly what the PPE is capable of, obviously you dont because you have no idea that 95% of the game is running on the processor, they know exactly where MAG can be done, not some 256 player game LIKE MAG, MAG

youre probably saying to yourself "but but but the xenos is more powerful than the rsx" doesnt matter when it comes to real time combat calculation of 256 players online

and just so we're clear, somebody please tell me the highest amount of players on a game on xbox 360, just so we're clear at this point at least

[QUOTE="salxis"]Sony needs to hire some new PR :P this type of bragging is getting oldAgentA-Mi6

And Zipper Interactive are owned by Sony, hence they are Sony.

No. Live would have to cost $100 a yr. ;)

[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"][QUOTE="salxis"]Sony needs to hire some new PR :P this type of bragging is getting oldAnnoyedDragon

And Zipper Interactive are owned by Sony, hence they are Sony.

[QUOTE="XanderZane"]

[QUOTE="i_am_interested"] actually no, theyre not clueless, at least no where near as clueless as random people on the internet like i said in my previous post, the architecture behind mag isnt just about dedicated servers, its about the interaction between the dedicated servers and the cell processor the entire game of mag is happening in real time and those SPUs are really being put to work when it comes to amount of real time number crunching thats going on, the graphics card is hardly even being used so what does this have to do with xbox 360? zipper works with the PPE on the cell which the xbox has 3 of and that ppe isnt doing any of the hard worki_am_interested

they know exactly what the PPE is capable of, obviously you dont because you have no idea that 95% of the game is running on the processor, they know exactly where MAG can be done, not some 256 player game LIKE MAG, MAG

youre probably saying to yourself "but but but the xenos is more powerful than the rsx" doesnt matter when it comes to real time combat calculation of 256 players online

and just so we're clear, somebody please tell me the highest amount of players on a game on xbox 360, just so we're clear at this point at least

[QUOTE="i_am_interested"]

[QUOTE="XanderZane"] They are clueless because they are making comments on something they don't know about. Answer this question. Have they TRIED to make a game like MAG on the XBox 360? Yeah.. that's what I thought. So you can preach about SPU's and the PS3 Cell as much as you like, but until Zipper actually makes an attempt at doing something like this on the XBox 360, they don't truly know what it's capable of. They are just making false claims. That would be like Turn 10 saying Forza 3 can't be done on the PS3. :roll: Give it a rest. Nuff said.

furomaster_99

they know exactly what the PPE is capable of, obviously you dont because you have no idea that 95% of the game is running on the processor, they know exactly where MAG can be done, not some 256 player game LIKE MAG, MAG

youre probably saying to yourself "but but but the xenos is more powerful than the rsx" doesnt matter when it comes to real time combat calculation of 256 players online

and just so we're clear, somebody please tell me the highest amount of players on a game on xbox 360, just so we're clear at this point at least

I have to repeat myself here, what PR are you people talking about? He was one of the game designers behind MAG, he said that remark during the interview with gamespot, he is not part of the public relations staff. Cliff bleszinski has a full time job with microsofts PR department I guess, working occasionally for EPIC must be just his hobby.

AgentA-Mi6

Just because you are not part of the PR department doesn't mean you are not going to bash the competition. You can hardly expect someone on Sony's payroll is going to say 360 can run the game, Sony has been pushing the PS3 as a technical marvel since day one.

This is the worst place to ask this question to begin with.

[QUOTE="2mrw"]

Shall i believe the game creators ( which hapeened to be a Sony dev. ) or some random ignorant forum posters ??????

it's a tough call.

methinksyou

Gears of War Can't be done on ps3. After all, the game's creators said it, so it must be true, right?

[QUOTE="methinksyou"][QUOTE="2mrw"]

Shall i believe the game creators ( which hapeened to be a Sony dev. ) or some random ignorant forum posters ??????

it's a tough call.

topgunmv

Gears of War Can't be done on ps3. After all, the game's creators said it, so it must be true, right?

[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

[QUOTE="methinksyou"] Lemmings want to ignore that...i_am_interested

Gears of War Can't be done on ps3. After all, the game's creators said it, so it must be true, right?

And luckily, 360 games can use dedicated servers should the developers so choose.

[QUOTE="i_am_interested"][QUOTE="topgunmv"]

Gears of War Can't be done on ps3. After all, the game's creators said it, so it must be true, right?

topgunmv

And luckily, 360 games can use dedicated servers should the developers so choose.

mag isnt just about dedicated server hardware, although it plays an important role, the architecture allows for a game like MAG because of the interaction between the servers and the cell processor

wii + dedicated servers = MAG right? wrong, its not only because of the dedicated servers

and dont bring up the RSX because MAG hardly uses it

Lemmings want to ignore that...methinksyou

Gears of War Can't be done on ps3. After all, the game's creators said it, so it must be true, right?

[QUOTE="i_am_interested"][QUOTE="topgunmv"]

Gears of War Can't be done on ps3. After all, the game's creators said it, so it must be true, right?

2mrw

thats because the interview was most likely conducted before importance of SPUs came about, where companies had no idea of what they were capable of when it came to graphics, as if the other 256 was just used for game code and not graphics, game code isnt very ram intensive

then all of a sudden killzone 2 came out and everyone was going "OMG the SPUs"

[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

[QUOTE="i_am_interested"] i believe that they believe that they cant make 512 work on 256, i believe that to be true luckily the ps3 doesnt have just 256i_am_interested

And luckily, 360 games can use dedicated servers should the developers so choose.

mag isnt just about dedicated server hardware, although it plays an important role, the architecture allows for a game like MAG because of the interaction between the servers and the cell processor

wii + dedicated servers = MAG right? wrong, its not only because of the dedicated servers

and dont bring up the RSX because MAG hardly uses it

Bring a source who isn't collecting a check from Sony.

Then we will talk.

does anyone still beleive pr from devs these days???daveg1

Why do ppl like to act like they know more then devs. Yes there owned by sony. No that doesnt mean there lieing. Also I believe what was said to be true. Its been proven that the cell when used correctly > the 360 cpu. This is an example of the cells spus being used to process LOTS of player data.

[QUOTE="i_am_interested"]

[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

And luckily, 360 games can use dedicated servers should the developers so choose.

Anjunaddict

mag isnt just about dedicated server hardware, although it plays an important role, the architecture allows for a game like MAG because of the interaction between the servers and the cell processor

wii + dedicated servers = MAG right? wrong, its not only because of the dedicated servers

and dont bring up the RSX because MAG hardly uses it

[QUOTE="daveg1"]does anyone still beleive pr from devs these days???mitu123

just cause there owned by another company doesnt mean everything they say is a lie.

[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

[QUOTE="i_am_interested"] i believe that they believe that they cant make 512 work on 256, i believe that to be true luckily the ps3 doesnt have just 256i_am_interested

And luckily, 360 games can use dedicated servers should the developers so choose.

mag isnt just about dedicated server hardware, although it plays an important role, the architecture allows for a game like MAG because of the interaction between the servers and the cell processor

wii + dedicated servers = MAG right? wrong, its not only because of the dedicated servers

and dont bring up the RSX because MAG hardly uses it

There have been mmo's for years that go beyond anything mag does and can run on a fraction of the hardware. The cell isn't some magical piece of silicon that works miracles.

[QUOTE="i_am_interested"]

[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

And luckily, 360 games can use dedicated servers should the developers so choose.

topgunmv

mag isnt just about dedicated server hardware, although it plays an important role, the architecture allows for a game like MAG because of the interaction between the servers and the cell processor

wii + dedicated servers = MAG right? wrong, its not only because of the dedicated servers

and dont bring up the RSX because MAG hardly uses it

There have been mmo's for years that go beyond anything mag does and can run on a fraction of the hardware. The cell isn't some magical piece of silicon that works miracles.

[QUOTE="i_am_interested"]

[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

And luckily, 360 games can use dedicated servers should the developers so choose.

topgunmv

mag isnt just about dedicated server hardware, although it plays an important role, the architecture allows for a game like MAG because of the interaction between the servers and the cell processor

wii + dedicated servers = MAG right? wrong, its not only because of the dedicated servers

and dont bring up the RSX because MAG hardly uses it

There have been mmo's for years that go beyond anything mag does and can run on a fraction of the hardware. The cell isn't some magical piece of silicon that works miracles.

most mmos dont operate like fps. Plus they have many dedicated servers

Why do ppl like to act like they know more then devs. Yes there owned by sony. No that doesnt mean there lieing. Also I believe what was said to be true. Its been proven that the cell when used correctly > the 360 cpu. This is an example of the cells spus being used to process LOTS of player data.

13C

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="daveg1"]does anyone still beleive pr from devs these days???13C

just cause there owned by another company doesnt mean everything they say is a lie.

Just like Final Fantasy 13:P

[QUOTE="13C"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"] Mainly fanboys do.

Anjunaddict

just cause there owned by another company doesnt mean everything they say is a lie.

[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

[QUOTE="i_am_interested"] except like ive said multiple times that people choose to ignore

mag isnt just about dedicated server hardware, although it plays an important role, the architecture allows for a game like MAG because of the interaction between the servers and the cell processor

wii + dedicated servers = MAG right? wrong, its not only because of the dedicated servers

and dont bring up the RSX because MAG hardly uses it

i_am_interested

There have been mmo's for years that go beyond anything mag does and can run on a fraction of the hardware. The cell isn't some magical piece of silicon that works miracles.

How is it not real time?

[QUOTE="i_am_interested"][QUOTE="topgunmv"]

There have been mmo's for years that go beyond anything mag does and can run on a fraction of the hardware. The cell isn't some magical piece of silicon that works miracles.

topgunmv

How is it not real time?

[QUOTE="daveg1"]does anyone still beleive pr from devs these days???mitu123

If I was a game dev I would say something. I'm not so I don't know is the only truthful answer I can give.

name me some MMOs that calculate combat for HUNDREDS of players in real time planetside? sorry, not real timei_am_interested

[QUOTE="Anjunaddict"][QUOTE="13C"]

just cause there owned by another company doesnt mean everything they say is a lie.

i_am_interested

Explain to me how it works that when epic says gears of war cant be done on ps3 it's with a grain of salt but with zipper it isn't? If anything Epic should be a more reliable source since they designed their engine to be multiplat, right?

[QUOTE="i_am_interested"][QUOTE="Anjunaddict"] And just because they say something, doesn't make it true. Especially when they have no experience developing on the 360 :roll:topgunmv

Explain to me how it works that when epic says gears of war cant be done on ps3 it's with a grain of salt but with zipper it isn't? If anything Epic should be a more reliable source since they designed their engine to be multiplat, right?

EPIC didnt say it cant be done on ps3, they said that all of the graphics data thats stored on the xbox360s shared 512 (a lot) couldnt be done on the PS3s 256mb of video memory - which i believe to be true if you discount the other 256mb which can be used freely

as for zipper, they know what the PPEs are capable and in their opinion, those PPEs arent enough to handle MAG

Explain to me how it works that when epic says gears of war cant be done on ps3 it's with a grain of salt but with zipper it isn't? If anything Epic should be a more reliable source since they designed their engine to be multiplat, right?

topgunmv

[QUOTE="windsquid9000"]

Every PS3 exclusive can only be done on the PS3 :roll:

EDIT: About the player-count. Quality >>>>>>> Quantity. 'Nuff said.

drakecool1

so youre saying the creaters of MAG are all wrong ?

Given the fact that

1) They have never developed a game for the Xbox 360

2) The PC could easily handle MAG.

Yes they are wrong.