CD Projekt Red: PC is most powerful platform "but that might change"

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#151 nextgenjoke
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[QUOTE="nextgenjoke"]SOFTWARE RENDERING=PLUG AND PLAY HARDWARE=INSTALL BUGGY ASS DRIVERS nameless12345

 

Software rendering would be relevant if games used ray-tracing or voxels.

But almost all games today use polygons and for those hardware (GPU) acceleration is better.

Who cares if gpu is faster? That's 200-500 more dollars i gotta spend just play games on my pc.
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#152 faizan_faizan
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[QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"]

There exist an EDIT button in the dropdown menu in the right corner of every post. USE IT.
A lot of threads are bloated with your garbage. Stop it.

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How do you get the black layout?
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#154 freedomfreak
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How do you get the black layout?faizan_faizan
[spoiler]  [/spoiler]
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#155 DragonfireXZ95
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[QUOTE="freedomfreak"][QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"]

There exist an EDIT button in the dropdown menu in the right corner of every post. USE IT.
A lot of threads are bloated with your garbage. Stop it.

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How do you get the black layout?

Top right near your username. The two little a icons.

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#156 nextgenjoke
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Never once seen a video game that's not compatible with a cpu for software rendering.

 

Seen plenty of games not compatible with video cards like crysis 3 and my 8600 gts.

 

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#157 BlbecekBobecek
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Translation:

PS4 gonna be more powerful than average gaming PCs, therefore we shall optimize Witcher 3 to it and then scale it down to most gaming PCs and offer some minor extra tweaks to the small minority of owners of more powrful gaming PCs.

Noone should be surprised by this really, every console generation started like this.

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#159 nextgenjoke
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If you want to spend 500$ to make game better than software that should be your choice and it should be your choice you dont need a goddamn video card to play it.

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#160 nextgenjoke
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epicgames was gonna switch to software rendering when intel was making  larrabee cpu but they cancelled it dumbasses.

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#161 catasaurus
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They sound pretty stupid in that article. The PC I am building now is more powerful that any console coming out .AmazonTreeBoa

mind me asking how much your spending on it?

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#162 nextgenjoke
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if intel didnt cancel their 32 core larrabee cpu we wouldnt even need goddamn graphics cards.

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#163 freedomfreak
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if intel didnt cancel their 32 core larrabee cpu we wouldnt even need goddamn graphics cards.

nextgenjoke
Have you bought the latest Tomb Raider?
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#164 crusadernm
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Hahahaha.  I can build a PC right now that would destroy the next gen consoles. 

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#165 nameless12345
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[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

[QUOTE="nextgenjoke"]SOFTWARE RENDERING=PLUG AND PLAY HARDWARE=INSTALL BUGGY ASS DRIVERS nextgenjoke

 

Software rendering would be relevant if games used ray-tracing or voxels.

But almost all games today use polygons and for those hardware (GPU) acceleration is better.

Who cares if gpu is faster? That's 200-500 more dollars i gotta spend just play games on my pc.

 

I'm not sure you quite understand what a gap is there between modern GPUs and modern CPUs.

Let's just say modern CPUs are about 30-times less effective at rendering graphics on their own than a dedicated GPU is.

To task the CPU to do everything you would need a heck of a CPU and those aren't affordable/don't exist on the consumer market yet.

Infact, the CPU is less and less relevant and modern GPUs can be easily tasked with a lot of tasks that a CPU would otherwise do. (i.e. "GPGPU")

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#166 nextgenjoke
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[QUOTE="nextgenjoke"]

if intel didnt cancel their 32 core larrabee cpu we wouldnt even need goddamn graphics cards.

freedomfreak

Have you bought the latest Tomb Raider?

I cant play it probley 8600 gts it'a not compatible lol like crysis 3. Never ran into compatibility issues with software rendering look ps3's cell processor risc cpu  runs quake 2 software mode designed for x86 processors just fine.

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#167 DragonfireXZ95
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[QUOTE="freedomfreak"][QUOTE="nextgenjoke"]

if intel didnt cancel their 32 core larrabee cpu we wouldnt even need goddamn graphics cards.

nextgenjoke

Have you bought the latest Tomb Raider?

I cant play it probley 8600 gts it'a not compatible lol like crysis 3. Never ran into compatibility issues with software rendering look ps3's cell processor risc cpu  runs quake 2 software mode designed for x86 processors just fine.

So in other words, you blame everything else for your lack of initiative(or money) to upgrade your computer.
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#168 faizan_faizan
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[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"]How do you get the black layout?freedomfreak
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Thanks a lot, I always ignored that thing or whatever i thought that was. This is SOOOOO soothing to the eyes.
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#169 nextgenjoke
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[QUOTE="nextgenjoke"]

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"] Have you bought the latest Tomb Raider?DragonfireXZ95

I cant play it probley 8600 gts it'a not compatible lol like crysis 3. Never ran into compatibility issues with software rendering look ps3's cell processor risc cpu  runs quake 2 software mode designed for x86 processors just fine.

So in other words, you blame everything else for your lack of initiative(or money) to upgrade your computer.

Took my 670 gtx price/performance wasnt worth it took it back.
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#170 PCgameruk
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Its kinda sad CD Projekt  have said this after the good PC ports they been releasing. Now they go and speak nonsence.

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#171 freedomfreak
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[QUOTE="freedomfreak"][QUOTE="nextgenjoke"]

if intel didnt cancel their 32 core larrabee cpu we wouldnt even need goddamn graphics cards.

nextgenjoke

Have you bought the latest Tomb Raider?

I cant play it probley 8600 gts it'a not compatible lol like crysis 3. Never ran into compatibility issues with software rendering look ps3's cell processor risc cpu  runs quake 2 software mode designed for x86 processors just fine.

Damn shame.
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#172 nextgenjoke
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modern games are no more advanced than quake 2 actually lol,biggest graphics evolution from programmable pixel shaders.

 

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#173 DragonfireXZ95
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[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="nextgenjoke"] I cant play it probley 8600 gts it'a not compatible lol like crysis 3. Never ran into compatibility issues with software rendering look ps3's cell processor risc cpu  runs quake 2 software mode designed for x86 processors just fine.nextgenjoke
So in other words, you blame everything else for your lack of initiative(or money) to upgrade your computer.

Took my 670 gtx price/performance wasnt worth it took it back.

I don't believe you ever had a 670 GTX. Prove it.
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#174 nextgenjoke
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replace pixel shaders with something that's more friendly with cpu.

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#175 nextgenjoke
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Developers are too lazy to employ cpu rendering techniques and hardware rendering techniques in their game.

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#176 nextgenjoke
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pixel shaders technique was not born on cpu it's born on gpu it's a video card graphics technique  so that's why you just dont use them on a cpu doing software rendering.

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#177 freedomfreak
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[QUOTE="freedomfreak"][QUOTE="faizan_faizan"]How do you get the black layout?faizan_faizan
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Thanks a lot, I always ignored that thing or whatever i thought that was. This is SOOOOO soothing to the eyes.

Yeah, way better than the white one.
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#178 Zaibach
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[QUOTE="freedomfreak"][QUOTE="faizan_faizan"]How do you get the black layout?faizan_faizan
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Thanks a lot, I always ignored that thing or whatever i thought that was. This is SOOOOO soothing to the eyes.

once you go black...

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#179 nextgenjoke
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If they took the pixel shader crap out of crysis you could run it easily with a cpu.

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#181 nihonking
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PEECEE is dead GDDR5 for life.

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#183 jun_aka_pekto
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Developers are too lazy to employ cpu rendering techniques and hardware rendering techniques in their game.

nextgenjoke

A lot of these same "lazy" developers also made the MS-DOS games you so like. I think they know better than you what's better or not.

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#184 nextgenjoke
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[QUOTE="nextgenjoke"]

Developers are too lazy to employ cpu rendering techniques and hardware rendering techniques in their game.

jun_aka_pekto

A lot of these same "lazy" developers also made the MS-DOS games you so like. I think they know better than you what's better or not.

idsoftware has been garbage since 1999.
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#185 nextgenjoke
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everyone called doom3 a flop and rage sucked lol.

 

rip idsoftware sorry video cards killed your company.

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#186 AlexKidd5000
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There is alot more to PC gaming then just graphics. PC has alot that consoles will never have, or be good at. And consoles are susceptible to things that PC isn't.
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#187 pelvist
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Actually, he said The PC was the lead platform for Witcher 2 because it was the most powerful, but that might change in the future, - Meaning, the lead platform is for their games not the power of the system. CDPR arent dumb like the console kids on this forum who thing that a console will be able to beat ever evolving hardare. 

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#188 faizan_faizan
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[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"][QUOTE="freedomfreak"] [spoiler]  [/spoiler] Zaibach

Thanks a lot, I always ignored that thing or whatever i thought that was. This is SOOOOO soothing to the eyes.

once you go black...

What does that mean?
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#189 nextgenjoke
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crytek too busy exploiting every graphics card technique known to man and forgot about the gameplay.

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#190 nameless12345
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everyone called doom3 a flop and rage sucked lol.

 

rip idsoftware sorry video cards killed your company.

nextgenjoke

 

Graphics cards killed the company that was the most responsible for pushing them to the consumers?

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#191 nextgenjoke
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That's funny though crysis 3 doesnt support tesselation because graphics cards cant even handle their own techniques with playable framerates lmao.

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#192 nextgenjoke
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[QUOTE="nextgenjoke"]

everyone called doom3 a flop and rage sucked lol.

 

rip idsoftware sorry video cards killed your company.

nameless12345

 

Graphics cards killed the company that was the most responsible for pushing them to the consumers?

quake 3 is a lazily built game compared to quake 2.
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#193 AlexKidd5000
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eh, he doesn't give any hard evidence or facts or anything. Just mere speculation on his part and it sounds like PR crap to me to get everyone hyped for TW3 across all platforms. 

I would love if it were true cos then we would all have the same game and no compromises but PC will always have stronger hardware year in year out than a fixed system. He just sounds like he's pandering here

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I hate when people say "Same experience across all platforms!!!!!" like its supposed to be a good thing. I'm a PC gamer, and I expect to have the best version of my games, not watered down crappy console versions.
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#194 nextgenjoke
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quake 1=1996

quake 2=1997

quake 3=1999

 

Video cards caused them to take longer to create games and suckier games.

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#195 nameless12345
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[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

[QUOTE="nextgenjoke"]

everyone called doom3 a flop and rage sucked lol.

 

rip idsoftware sorry video cards killed your company.

nextgenjoke

 

Graphics cards killed the company that was the most responsible for pushing them to the consumers?

quake 3 is a lazily built game compared to quake 2.

 

No it's not.

Q3 had amazing graphics when it came out and set the graphics standards for a few years. (untill Unreal Engine 2 came out)

Quake II engine was popular also but soon got dethroned by Unreal Engine.

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#196 nextgenjoke
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[QUOTE="nextgenjoke"][QUOTE="nameless12345"]

 

Graphics cards killed the company that was the most responsible for pushing them to the consumers?

nameless12345

quake 3 is a lazily built game compared to quake 2.

 

No it's not.

Q3 had amazing graphics when it came out and set the graphics standards for a few years. (untill Unreal Engine 2 came out)

Quake II engine was popular also but soon got dethroned by Unreal Engine.

it had no single player no cooperative it's a lazy game. quake 2 had arena multiplayer only maps and single player maps you could deathmatch on.
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#197 nextgenjoke
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Video cards are the reason there was 2 year gap between quake 2 and quake 3 and they created a much inferior game.

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#198 nameless12345
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[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

[QUOTE="nextgenjoke"] quake 3 is a lazily built game compared to quake 2.nextgenjoke

 

No it's not.

Q3 had amazing graphics when it came out and set the graphics standards for a few years. (untill Unreal Engine 2 came out)

Quake II engine was popular also but soon got dethroned by Unreal Engine.

it had no single player no cooperative it's a lazy game. quake 2 had arena multiplayer only maps and single player maps you could deathmatch on.

 

Q3 focused on the multi-player and it's also the best MP Quake game, imo.

Q1 & QII had a average SP mode thrown in there but it's not worth bragging about.

Games like Unreal and Half-Life had far better single-player than the Quake games, imo.

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#199 nextgenjoke
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[QUOTE="nextgenjoke"][QUOTE="nameless12345"]

 

No it's not.

Q3 had amazing graphics when it came out and set the graphics standards for a few years. (untill Unreal Engine 2 came out)

Quake II engine was popular also but soon got dethroned by Unreal Engine.

nameless12345

it had no single player no cooperative it's a lazy game. quake 2 had arena multiplayer only maps and single player maps you could deathmatch on.

 

Q3 focused on the multi-player and it's also the best MP Quake game, imo.

Q1 & QII had a average SP mode thrown in there but it's not worth bragging about.

Games like Unreal and Half-Life had far better single-player than the Quake games, imo.

The edge on quake 2 is a better multiplayer map than any quake 3 arena map. quake 2 has better multiplayer and it has a real single player.