CNET UK Survey: 60% of Xbox 360s Have Broken

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[QUOTE="ChrisJ2004"]

Giving such credibilty to a survey is like taking a poll on CowSpot as the end all of opinions. Official/Government studies have shown that the 360 failure rate is less than 20% and that includes the lesser errors than the RROD. The PS3. by the way, has about 10%.

ChrisJ2004

They're so official you didn't provide a link. :roll:

I didn't think I needed to. Can you not use Google? Afraid to find the tuth for yourself? Fine. Here.

http://blog.squaretrade.com/2008/02/xbox-fail-rates.html

This is just one. Wikipedia has a whole page dedicated to many such studies.

l2google

*logs into wikipedia......Searches declaration of independance......adds a sentence at the bottom to say the phrase "George W. Bush doesnt like black people" (no racist).* LINK

Do you see where im going with all this "official" talk?

EDIT:

^^^^I edited that just now.

I believe it it's accurate of my experience, and everyone else I know.

Failure rates are not subject to surveys. Those numbers could all be inflated.Brownesque

CNET, same place that is in love everytime sony makes a new bravia hdtv. im shocked it aint 99% coming from that site....

The truth is right here

Mine still works....I think. Haven't turned in on for a while.

[QUOTE="ChrisJ2004"]

[QUOTE="TREY_FOR_LI4E"]

They're so official you didn't provide a link. :roll:

TREY_FOR_LI4E

I didn't think I needed to. Can you not use Google? Afraid to find the tuth for yourself? Fine. Here.

http://blog.squaretrade.com/2008/02/xbox-fail-rates.html

This is just one. Wikipedia has a whole page dedicated to many such studies.

l2google

Ah, good old squaretrade. Might want to check your reading glasses, buddy:

PLEASE NOTE: this report only tracks this test group for a period of 6 to 10 months after warranty purchase (ending January 31, 2007). Once this same test group is tracked for 24 or 36 months, the fail rate is certain to go up.

Moreover, if you actually bothered to read the actual study you would find this:

http://www.squaretrade.com/htm/pdf/SquareTrade_Xbox360_PS3_Wii_Reliability_0809.pdf

Microsoft's policy may result in an underreporting of failures by Xbox 360 owners to SquareTrade, relative to the other two consoles. Because the RROD problem is so widely known to be covered by Microsoft's warranty, we believe that more customers bypass SquareTrade and reported failures directly to the Microsoft. In a survey of SquareTrade customers with Xbox 360s conducted by email, SquareTrade found that over half of our customers who experienced a RROD error reported their problem directly to Microsoft without contacting SquareTrade. Email survey respondents tend to be a self-selecting group, so the data should be used directionally rather than definitively, particularly because we did not survey PS3 and Wii owners with the same question. With that caveat in mind, applying the survey data to the analysis shows that the Xbox 360 failure rate could be as high as 35%.

While Microsoft initially claimed in February 2007i that the "return" rate on Xbox 360s did not exceed 3-5%, they later published an open apology on July 5th, 2007 and announced a $1.15 billion fund to be set aside for Xbox 360 repair and replacement

You pretend to hate the 360, but I don't think you do. When someone doesn't like something, they usually don't give it much thought at all; much less put near as much time into bashing as you do the 360....I beginning to think you're genuinely jealous.

My 1st 360 RROD, had to buy a second. I think all old models will eventually break.

[QUOTE="ChrisJ2004"]

[QUOTE="TREY_FOR_LI4E"]

Ah, good old squaretrade. Might want to check your reading glasses, buddy:

PLEASE NOTE: this report only tracks this test group for a period of 6 to 10 months after warranty purchase (ending January 31, 2007). Once this same test group is tracked for 24 or 36 months, the fail rate is certain to go up.

Moreover, if you actually bothered to read the actual study you would find this:

http://www.squaretrade.com/htm/pdf/SquareTrade_Xbox360_PS3_Wii_Reliability_0809.pdf

Microsoft's policy may result in an underreporting of failures by Xbox 360 owners to SquareTrade, relative to the other two consoles. Because the RROD problem is so widely known to be covered by Microsoft's warranty, we believe that more customers bypass SquareTrade and reported failures directly to the Microsoft. In a survey of SquareTrade customers with Xbox 360s conducted by email, SquareTrade found that over half of our customers who experienced a RROD error reported their problem directly to Microsoft without contacting SquareTrade. Email survey respondents tend to be a self-selecting group, so the data should be used directionally rather than definitively, particularly because we did not survey PS3 and Wii owners with the same question. With that caveat in mind, applying the survey data to the analysis shows that the Xbox 360 failure rate could be as high as 35%.

While Microsoft initially claimed in February 2007i that the "return" rate on Xbox 360s did not exceed 3-5%, they later published an open apology on July 5th, 2007 and announced a $1.15 billion fund to be set aside for Xbox 360 repair and replacement

TREY_FOR_LI4E

Like I said, check the Wikipedia and Google There are several such studies that I've read through the years. I don't desire to do yur work for you.

Also, http://www.gamespot.com/news/6216691.html

Source: Google & Wikipedia

Lol!

and an internet poll that you provided is better?

My 1st 360 RROD, had to buy a second. I think all old models will eventually break.

tmntPunchout

Pretty much, and the new ones haven't been out long enough to draw any conclusions about their reliability.

Start talking about the success rates then? 360's 66 % successful rate. PS3 88 %. Wii 94 %.

Start talking about the success rates then? 360's 66 % successful rate. PS3 88 %. Wii 94 %.

LOXO7

I like that. It's a "glass is half full" outlook on things. ^_^

wow didn't gameinformer say it was 54% that means the failure rate went up to 60%.

talk about horrible hardware.

Let's see here: - L4D2 getting good reviews - Assassin Creed 2 being better on the 360 Yup. Time to make a RROD topic. Seriously though, surveys? Lulzxsubtownerx

l4d2 is multiplat

where does it say the 360 version of AC2 is better ? did it get a better review on the 360 as opose the PS3 like Dragons Age Origins I think not :)

Thats why its called the 360, cause it ALWAYS comes back to MS the back to the Owner like a boomerangMunasha

Source: Google & Wikipedia Lol!TREY_FOR_LI4E

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[QUOTE="Racer850"] [QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="patriots7672"]

[QUOTE="Racer850"]

I'm glad i own both, and fyi my 360 is running great :)

Jandurin

For now it is, but you never know when that dreaded will come when you're using a 360.

[QUOTE="Munasha"]Thats why its called the 360, cause it ALWAYS comes back to MS the back to the Owner like a boomerangdelta3074

100% of mine are still working

That;s INCREDIBLE!!!!!

such a huge failure rate:shock:

TC you have brought up a very good topic.

With such records people must have been flocking to the PS3.

This must really help the PS3 since millions of those Xbox360 users must be fed up and get the PS3 over the Xbox360!!!

So how come I don't see the PS3 kicking but against such mediocrity??

And before you say the price drop is making the difference

EEAD mentioned that the salesrate for the PS3is dimishing faster then the Xbox360 post price drop.

So it will be back to normal in a few months where consumers get Wii>Xbox360>PS3.

^^and people still buy Xbox360s and heaps of games. Attach ratios, often multiplats still sell more..

The PS3 should have been in the lead ages ago.

Maybe next year will be the year it will happen. You never know 99%ofXbox360 will crash then maybe it might give the PS3 a chance.

Let's see here: - L4D2 getting good reviews - Assassin Creed 2 being better on the 360 Yup. Time to make a RROD topic. Seriously though, surveys? Lulzxsubtownerx

How do you think we measure the metric for large groups? When a TV show is said to have had 25 million viewers on a particular night do you think each of those 25 million people were counted? No, a representative sample (in this case the Nelsons) were polled. It is the same for NPD numbers or any large volume going back to the beginning of civilization (1 black sheep represents X number of white, you don't count the entire heard just the black ones). Internet surveys, where anyone can participate, can be easily skewed but random surveys, like the one performed by GI, are a pretty good estimation. Considering that there is only a 6% difference between the CNET and GI survey I would say that this reinforces the extremely high RROD rate.

[QUOTE="xsubtownerx"]Let's see here: - L4D2 getting good reviews - Assassin Creed 2 being better on the 360 Yup. Time to make a RROD topic. Seriously though, surveys? Lulzskektek

How do you think we measure the metric for large groups? When a TV show is said to have had 25 million viewers on a particular night do you think each of those 25 million people were counted? No, a representative sample (in this case the Nelsons) were polled. It is the same for NPD numbers or any large volume going back to the beginning of civilization (1 black sheep represents X number of white, you don't count the entire heard just the black ones). Internet surveys, where anyone can participate, can be easily skewed but random surveys, like the one performed by GI, are a pretty good estimation. Considering that there is only a 6% difference between the CNET and GI survey I would say that this reinforces the extremely high RROD rate.

360 has a high failure rate, this isn't news to anybody :?

lundy86_4

true... its like :| we know the people who buy 360 know... nothing new.

[QUOTE="skektek"]

[QUOTE="xsubtownerx"]Let's see here: - L4D2 getting good reviews - Assassin Creed 2 being better on the 360 Yup. Time to make a RROD topic. Seriously though, surveys? Lulzxsubtownerx

How do you think we measure the metric for large groups? When a TV show is said to have had 25 million viewers on a particular night do you think each of those 25 million people were counted? No, a representative sample (in this case the Nelsons) were polled. It is the same for NPD numbers or any large volume going back to the beginning of civilization (1 black sheep represents X number of white, you don't count the entire heard just the black ones). Internet surveys, where anyone can participate, can be easily skewed but random surveys, like the one performed by GI, are a pretty good estimation. Considering that there is only a 6% difference between the CNET and GI survey I would say that this reinforces the extremely high RROD rate.

Like it or not that is how such things are measured. But go ahead, poll several thousand random PS3 owners, ask them your question, and get back to me.

I thought CNET was owned by Microsoft, cows?

BioShockOwnz

Hooray for yet another anonymous informal survey? :?

PBSnipes

Cows finding a negative, bogus poll about the 360 and clinging on it like its the total truth and then adding their equally bogusIRL stories. This is what happens when they face the reality that no one cares about the PS3...

The real number is probably higher. Every person I know IRL that has a 360 has had theirs break at least once. Some 3 or more.Messiahbolical-

Same here. I don't know a single person with a 360 who hasn't had it crash on them, and most of them are on their 3rd or 4th 360 (some are even on their 6th!).

Wow! So 16% of PS3 owners had to pay money to fix their consloes!?!

Glad I got a 3-year warranty!

[QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"]The real number is probably higher. Every person I know IRL that has a 360 has had theirs break at least once. Some 3 or more.TREY_FOR_LI4E

Same here. I don't know a single person with a 360 who hasn't had it crash on them, and most of them are on their 3rd or 4th 360 (some are even on their 6th!).

and yet again system wars IQ drops even lower.

1. This is the internet, don't believe everything you read

2. what is stopping from ANYONE lying just to give the xbox360 a high failure rate, I'm sure lots of people would do it for kicks

3. Its been proving before that gamers will vote for something to go in there favour, like rated games to give a lower score making the dam look bad

I'm sitting at 80% of mine broken.SpruceCaboose

Ouch, sorry to hear about your losses. :(

my 360 rrod yesterday, (bought it in 2006) called m$ and they are sending me a ups tag so i can ship it, so they can fix it or replace it. No problem what so ever. great customer service!

my 360 rrod yesterday, (bought it in 2006) called m$ and they are sending me a ups tag so i can ship it, so they can fix it or replace it. No problem what so ever. great customer service!

azell07

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my 360 rrod yesterday, (bought it in 2006) called m$ and they are sending me a ups tag so i can ship it, so they can fix it or replace it. No problem what so ever. great customer service!

Messiahbolical-

Neither should the PS3, but guess what, they doand the owner has to pay for repairs, and can you cows come up with more then the tired 'all my friends are on their 3rd or 4th 360' made up stories?...

That;s INCREDIBLE!!!!!

such a huge failure rate:shock:

TC you have brought up a very good topic.

With such records people must have been flocking to the PS3.

This must really help the PS3 since millions of those Xbox360 users must be fed up and get the PS3 over the Xbox360!!!

So how come I don't see the PS3 kicking but against such mediocrity??

And before you say the price drop is making the difference

EEAD mentioned that the salesrate for the PS3is dimishing faster then the Xbox360 post price drop.

So it will be back to normal in a few months where consumers get Wii>Xbox360>PS3.

AdmiralBison

the PS3 is destroying the 360 in sales ever since September in US and I don't even want to mention how bad the 360 is doing in Europe and Japan for i don't want to bring sadness to the hearts of lemmings.

[QUOTE="AdmiralBison"]

That;s INCREDIBLE!!!!!

such a huge failure rate:shock:

TC you have brought up a very good topic.

With such records people must have been flocking to the PS3.

This must really help the PS3 since millions of those Xbox360 users must be fed up and get the PS3 over the Xbox360!!!

So how come I don't see the PS3 kicking but against such mediocrity??

And before you say the price drop is making the difference

EEAD mentioned that the salesrate for the PS3is dimishing faster then the Xbox360 post price drop.

So it will be back to normal in a few months where consumers get Wii>Xbox360>PS3.

drakecool1

the PS3 is destroying the 360 in sales ever since September in US and I don't even want to mention how bad the 360 is doing in Europe and Japan for i don't want to bring sadness to the hearts of lemmings.

I love how ps3 fanboys don't use sales to look at overall numbers but use sales to look at it over a 2 month picture

[QUOTE="AdmiralBison"]

That;s INCREDIBLE!!!!!

such a huge failure rate:shock:

TC you have brought up a very good topic.

With such records people must have been flocking to the PS3.

This must really help the PS3 since millions of those Xbox360 users must be fed up and get the PS3 over the Xbox360!!!

So how come I don't see the PS3 kicking but against such mediocrity??

And before you say the price drop is making the difference

EEAD mentioned that the salesrate for the PS3is dimishing faster then the Xbox360 post price drop.

So it will be back to normal in a few months where consumers get Wii>Xbox360>PS3.

drakecool1

the PS3 is destroying the 360 in sales ever since September in US and I don't even want to mention how bad the 360 is doing in Europe and Japan for i don't want to bring sadness to the hearts of lemmings.

Until September the 360 was far enough ahead in the US to stay...Nice try though, PS3 won't catchup anytime soon. Then again, it's always refreshing to see cows telling us that sales suddenly matter again...

[QUOTE="drakecool1"]

[QUOTE="AdmiralBison"]

That;s INCREDIBLE!!!!!

such a huge failure rate:shock:

TC you have brought up a very good topic.

With such records people must have been flocking to the PS3.

This must really help the PS3 since millions of those Xbox360 users must be fed up and get the PS3 over the Xbox360!!!

So how come I don't see the PS3 kicking but against such mediocrity??

And before you say the price drop is making the difference

EEAD mentioned that the salesrate for the PS3is dimishing faster then the Xbox360 post price drop.

So it will be back to normal in a few months where consumers get Wii>Xbox360>PS3.

MizFitAwesome

the PS3 is destroying the 360 in sales ever since September in US and I don't even want to mention how bad the 360 is doing in Europe and Japan for i don't want to bring sadness to the hearts of lemmings.

Until September the 360 was far enough ahead in the US to stay...Nice try though, PS3 won't catchup anytime soon. Then again, it's always refreshing to see cows telling us that sales suddenly matter again...

far ahead lol they never went past that year head start lead even being $200 cheaper and that lead is shrinking day by day not even halo odst was enough to save the 360 the last couple of months lol :D

for the record even before september the sales between PS3 and 360 yearly was even mostly with PS3 selling more yearly the $299 price tag was like the straw that broke the camels back now 360 can't even compete not even with a halo game where they able to move consoles enough to beat thePS3 slim.

This hardware failure rate is just outrageous. But what's even more outrageous is that there are people that keep buying these defective hardware.

I DON'T GET IT! :?