Consoles are superior to the PC on a technical level

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#1 Zlychop
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Show me a X1900XTX (360 GPU) or a 7800 GTX (PS3 GPU) capable of running these visuals at acceptable frame rates

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No way does a PC 7800 GTX run BF3 and look like this with anything above 15 FPS, LOL.

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Feel free to support this thread and post more good looking console games.

These are games that had to be EXPERTLY and very technically coded (moreso than your average PC game) to run on such old hardware and yet the do.

Superior their equivalents for a fraction of the cost.

780 GTX was $599 at launch and the X1900XTX was $650 at launch and they struggle to run any of todays games even at 30 fps, yet the consoles can do it.

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#3 Nanomage
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So many bullshots! :o
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#4 GreenGoblin2099
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Oh boy.. here we go again!!

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#5 FPSfan1985
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Weak argument. Those cards can't run newer games because unlike Consoles PC games have moved on from outdated APIs and Shader sets.
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#6 ionusX
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someone jelly of the fx-8150 :cool:

thats the only reason threads like this get started you dont have the powa of teh bulldozer

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face it you is jelly of all its manlyness

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you is ever so jelly

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#7 ChubbyGuy40
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someone jelly of the i7-3770k

ionusX

Fixed so people would actually be jelly.

Another crap thread by Zlychop.

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#8 comptonst88
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So many bullshots! :oNanomage
Actually Killzone 3 does really look that good.
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#9 deactivated-5e0e425ee91d8
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 Can you hear them? The hermits are coming...0_0
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#10 ionusX
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[QUOTE="ionusX"]

someone jelly of the i7-3770k

ChubbyGuy40

Fixed so people would actually be jelly.

Another crap thread by Zlychop.

the 3770k is a silly bridge made of vines :P nothing as powerful as teh bulldozer

[spoiler] i know wut u is sayin im jsut having my fun. cmon its like teh cell jokes [/spoiler]

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#11 ispeakfact
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True. :cool:
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#12 FPSfan1985
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someone jelly of the fx-8150 :cool:

thats the only reason threads like this get started you dont have the powa of teh bulldozer

face it you is jelly of all its manlyness

you is ever so jelly

ionusX

Who uses AMD anymore? And why would you?

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#13 ChubbyGuy40
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the 3770k is a silly bridge made of vines :P nothing as powerful as teh bulldozer

ionusX

Wanna know what the bulldozer can't push?

Intel's profits. :P

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#14 ionusX
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[QUOTE="ionusX"]

someone jelly of the fx-8150 :cool:

thats the only reason threads like this get started you dont have the powa of teh bulldozer

face it you is jelly of all its manlyness

you is ever so jelly

FPSfan1985

Who uses AMD anymore? And why would you?

see definite jelly coming off of your post.. its practically oozing out of the borders

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#15 ionusX
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[QUOTE="ionusX"]

the 3770k is a silly bridge made of vines :P nothing as powerful as teh bulldozer

ChubbyGuy40

Wanna know what the bulldozer can't push?

Intel's profits. :P

someones jelly they cant safely operate heavy machinery :cool:

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#16 Silverbond
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Sony domination continuation
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Crysis 2 on the X1950 now GTFO

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#18 Inconsistancy
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"X1900XTX (360 GPU) or a 7800 GTX (PS3 GPU)"

Wrong on both

The "Xenos" was closer to the 1800XT or even more like the 1950pro(lower performance in some areas, but better shader performance than the 1800xt), not the 1900XT, that woulda crushed it.

And the "RSX" is a 'cut down' 7800GT, not even a GTX.

And of course a 7800GTX may have some trouble(espeically the 256mb), it has far fewer shader pipelines than the 360, and desktop cpu's don't function like the Cell. Apples to Radiator comparison.

X1950pro, Crysis2

Goodbye.

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#19 04dcarraher
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False.... Xbox 360 GPU performance 240 GFLOPS, AMD 7970 performance 3790 GFLOPS
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#20 lostrib
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Here is the real question, if I have a PC that allows me to upgrade, why would I stick with 7 year old components?

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#21 super600  Moderator
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Another stupid thread has been created by Zlychop.

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#22 Zlychop
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Here is the real question, if I have a PC that allows me to upgrade, why would I stick with 7 year old components?

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Exclusives that are actually worth playing.
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#23 lostrib
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

Here is the real question, if I have a PC that allows me to upgrade, why would I stick with 7 year old components?

Zlychop

Exclusives that are actually worth playing.

Like all the high rated exclusives the PC has, more than any other platform

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#24 AdrianWerner
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No, this means their games are better optimized, not that the actual outdated like hell consoles are superior technically.

Altough those are all bullshots. PC games run in high res, with good AA and AF. If you would run them in such low settings as those console games are the results wouldn't be all that different.

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#25 slimjimbadboy
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Is it just me or is it that the only time we see good looking console screenshots is when they are shown at the same resolution of a 3DS?

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#26 painguy1
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everyone is wrong(about Xenos). Xenos is tjhe precursor to the R600 GPU's. Much of Xenos's design was later used in the HD 2xxx series. HOWEVER!!!! Xenos's speed is still very slow despite having a future proof feature set. It just goes to show what matters the most is not the speed, but the feature set of the chip. It may not neccesarily be able to use those effects all the time, but it allows room for compatibility and such.

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#27 Obviously_Right
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No, this means their games are better optimized, not that the actual outdated like hell consoles are superior technically.

Altough those are all bullshots. PC games run in high res, with good AA and AF. If you would run them in such low settings as those console games are the results wouldn't be all that different.

AdrianWerner

Killzone 3 shot is direct feed.

GOW: A pic is off-screen. :lol:

Hermits need to lay off the trolling.

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#28 lostrib
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[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

No, this means their games are better optimized, not that the actual outdated like hell consoles are superior technically.

Altough those are all bullshots. PC games run in high res, with good AA and AF. If you would run them in such low settings as those console games are the results wouldn't be all that different.

Obviously_Right

Killzone 3 shot is direct feed.

GOW: A pic is off-screen. :lol:

Hermits need to lay off the trolling.

The problem is that they look good because they have been shrunk down to hide any flaws, and some are bullshots

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#29 AdrianWerner
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[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

No, this means their games are better optimized, not that the actual outdated like hell consoles are superior technically.

Altough those are all bullshots. PC games run in high res, with good AA and AF. If you would run them in such low settings as those console games are the results wouldn't be all that different.

Obviously_Right

Killzone 3 shot is direct feed.

GOW: A pic is off-screen. :lol:

Hermits need to lay off the trolling.

OFF-SCREEN picks always make the games look much better than in reality.

And KZ3 is direct feed? This game runs in 970 x 600 resolution? Jesus Chrst, it must look like utter garbage on any decent sized TV

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#30 comptonst88
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[QUOTE="Obviously_Right"]

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

No, this means their games are better optimized, not that the actual outdated like hell consoles are superior technically.

Altough those are all bullshots. PC games run in high res, with good AA and AF. If you would run them in such low settings as those console games are the results wouldn't be all that different.

AdrianWerner

Killzone 3 shot is direct feed.

GOW: A pic is off-screen. :lol:

Hermits need to lay off the trolling.

OFF-SCREEN picks always make the games look much better than in reality.

And KZ3 is direct feed? This game runs in 970 x 600 resolution? Jesus Chrst, it must look like utter garbage on any decent sized TV

No, killzone 3 runs at 1280 x 720 resolution when you actually playit on PS3. The pic in this thread just happens to be shrunk to 970 x 600.
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[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

[QUOTE="Obviously_Right"]

Killzone 3 shot is direct feed.

GOW: A pic is off-screen. :lol:

Hermits need to lay off the trolling.

comptonst88

OFF-SCREEN picks always make the games look much better than in reality.

And KZ3 is direct feed? This game runs in 970 x 600 resolution? Jesus Chrst, it must look like utter garbage on any decent sized TV

No, killzone 3 runs at 1280 x 720 resolution when you actually playit on PS3. The pic in this thread just happens to be shrunk to 970 x 600.

Yes, and these images aren't even bullshots.

Try harder, hermits.

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#32 lostrib
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[QUOTE="comptonst88"][QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]OFF-SCREEN picks always make the games look much better than in reality.

And KZ3 is direct feed? This game runs in 970 x 600 resolution? Jesus Chrst, it must look like utter garbage on any decent sized TV

Zlychop

No, killzone 3 runs at 1280 x 720 resolution when you actually playit on PS3. The pic in this thread just happens to be shrunk to 970 x 600.

Yes, and these images aren't even bullshots.

Try harder, hermits.

Okay, if the consoles are so superior at a technical level why cant they perform basic tasks of a PC, or how about multitasking.

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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

Here is the real question, if I have a PC that allows me to upgrade, why would I stick with 7 year old components?

Zlychop

Exclusives that are actually worth playing.

Eh, we got plenty of those. Not to mention a number of cases where the PC version of a multiplat is the superior version.

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#34 Silverbond
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[QUOTE="Zlychop"][QUOTE="lostrib"]

Here is the real question, if I have a PC that allows me to upgrade, why would I stick with 7 year old components?

PannicAtack
Exclusives that are actually worth playing.

Eh, we got plenty of those.

Minesweeper doesn't count, brah.
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#35 Zlychop
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[QUOTE="Zlychop"][QUOTE="lostrib"]

Here is the real question, if I have a PC that allows me to upgrade, why would I stick with 7 year old components?

PannicAtack

Exclusives that are actually worth playing.

Eh, we got plenty of those. Not to mention a number of cases where the PC version of a multiplat is the superior version.

PC multiplats are just the console version of the games slightly better graphics and no frame cap. That's not worth spending tons of money to build a PC on. I think Crysis was the last big budget PC exclusive game ever for the PC.
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#36 jimmyrussle117
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Are these trolls still trying? 1080p>720p, 60fps>20-25 fps, and 4xAA>0AA. 1/10 for making me post.

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#38 Zlychop
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Are these trolls still trying? 1080p>720p, 60fps>20-25 fps, and 4xAA>0AA. 1/10 for makign me post.

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Saving $ >>> Spending money on hardware for games that don't exist to actually make use of said expensive hardware until next gen consoles come out leading the way once again for the PC.
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#39 lostrib
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[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]

[QUOTE="Zlychop"] Exclusives that are actually worth playing.Zlychop

Eh, we got plenty of those. Not to mention a number of cases where the PC version of a multiplat is the superior version.

PC multiplats are just the console version of the games slightly better graphics and no frame cap. That's not worth spending tons of money to build a PC on. I think Crysis was the last big budget PC exclusive game ever for the PC.

All those things actually do make games more enjoyable.

And plenty of big budget exclusives have come out since Crysis such as Diablo 3

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#40 Arach666
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That´s quite simply one of the many advantages the PC has,I don´t need to stay in the past with outdated hardware.
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#41 Zlychop
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[QUOTE="Zlychop"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"] Eh, we got plenty of those. Not to mention a number of cases where the PC version of a multiplat is the superior version.

lostrib

PC multiplats are just the console version of the games slightly better graphics and no frame cap. That's not worth spending tons of money to build a PC on. I think Crysis was the last big budget PC exclusive game ever for the PC.

All those things actually do make games more enjoyable.

And plenty of big budget exclusives have come out since Crysis such as Diablo 3

Diablo 3 doesn't push the graphics bar though, I'm talking big budget console owning (graphic wise) PC exclusives.
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#42 lostrib
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[QUOTE="jimmyrussle117"]

Are these trolls still trying? 1080p>720p, 60fps>20-25 fps, and 4xAA>0AA. 1/10 for makign me post.

Zlychop

Saving $ >>> Spending money on hardware for games that don't exist to actually make use of said expensive hardware until next gen consoles come out leading the way once again for the PC.

Some people want the best and they are willing to pay for it

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Anyone ever notice that console gamers seem to be a lot more obsessed with graphics than PC gamers?
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#44 Zlychop
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That´s quite simply one of the many advantages the PC has,I don´t need to stay in the past with outdated hardware.Arach666

Today, the hardware has surpassed the software.

These top of the line cards exist to run games that don't exist yet, why?

Consoles control the game market now in all aspects, from graphics to gameplay.

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#45 lostrib
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="Zlychop"] PC multiplats are just the console version of the games slightly better graphics and no frame cap. That's not worth spending tons of money to build a PC on. I think Crysis was the last big budget PC exclusive game ever for the PC.Zlychop

All those things actually do make games more enjoyable.

And plenty of big budget exclusives have come out since Crysis such as Diablo 3

Diablo 3 doesn't push the graphics bar though, I'm talking big budget console owning (graphic wise) PC exclusives.

There are plenty of console owning PC games, and the upcoming PlanetSide 2 looks like it will own as well. Even skyrim with high res textures destroys most console games

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#46 Zlychop
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[QUOTE="Zlychop"][QUOTE="jimmyrussle117"]

Are these trolls still trying? 1080p>720p, 60fps>20-25 fps, and 4xAA>0AA. 1/10 for makign me post.

lostrib

Saving $ >>> Spending money on hardware for games that don't exist to actually make use of said expensive hardware until next gen consoles come out leading the way once again for the PC.

Some people want the best and they are willing to pay for it

Yeah, then they brag about how there $500 card with 32xaa on looks so much better than a $200 console. At the end of the day, we are still playing the same game for 25% of the cost of a true gaming PC. Who wins? Console gamers.
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#47 lostrib
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Anyone ever notice that console gamers seem to be a lot more obsessed with graphics than PC gamers?PannicAtack

Yep. It's always that PC gamers are graphics whores, and gameplay>graphics. Until PC gamers talk about games like Binding of Isaac, To the moon, or minecraft with great gameplay, and then it becomes "those graphics suck" or "why play on PC if you're only gonna play games with crappy graphics"

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#49 Rocker6
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Anyone ever notice that console gamers seem to be a lot more obsessed with graphics than PC gamers?PannicAtack

Yeah,the stereotype about PC gamers being obsessed with graphics is laughable.If you were here during E3,then you must remember the crapload of "TLoU vs Halo4" graphics threads,with cows claiming ownage over "outdated 360"...

Oh,and here's a better KZ3 shot,a more accurate representation of the game's visuals:

KZ3_preview_19.jpg.jpg

Just look at those powerlines.And jaggies,jaggies everywhere...

Also,what's with that grainy filter?

I remember hating it a lot while playing the game last year...

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#50 Arach666
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[QUOTE="Arach666"]That´s quite simply one of the many advantages the PC has,I don´t need to stay in the past with outdated hardware.Zlychop

Today, the hardware has surpassed the software.

These top of the line cards exist to run games that don't exist yet, why?

Consoles control the game market now in all aspects, from graphics to gameplay.

There are plenty of games that take good advantage of current high end cards,one of them being the upcoming Arma 3 wich not only looks amazing but has a scale no console game even gets close to,not to mention Fortnite,EPIC´s first UE4 game wich is PC only. Also,Rome 2 is already looking absolutely incredible and it´s CA highest budget game ever,way beyond any console capabilities.

Also,Watch Dogs and Star Wars 1313 are all running on high end PC hardware and those will be miles ahead of their console counterparts.

And these are just a few among many examples.