Consoles are superior to the PC on a technical level

[QUOTE="PinnacleGamingP"][QUOTE="Riadon2"] So you are saying that the screenshot that I took during my playthrough isn't realtime? Plus, uncharted 3 graphics are disgusting and I don't know where you got the "moving environments" crap from. I suppose I shouldn't expect so much from a hardcore Cow.Riadon2

I'm beginning to think that you haven't actually played Forza. The buildings are not flat at all. They're completely 3D, down to the railings on balconies. The amount of little 3D details and scenery is insane compared to NFS. And the backgrounds consist of almost photorealistic 3D terrain. They're not cardboard like at all. The foliage is better than Hot Pursuit as well. Then there is the HDR lighting. Hot Pursuit looked good for it's day, but graphically, it does not compare to Forza on any level whatsoever... superclocked

I play Need for Speed Hot Pursuit (2010) in AMD's Eyefinity mode (i.e. 3X 23 inch screens). Btw, PC version has high resolution texture mode, higher AA and resolution.

PC's high texture mode works best beyond 1280x720p i.e. more pixels to show higher resolution textures.

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]Both PS3 and Xbox 360 includes DRM hardware.DJP3000

...

Is there a console game that requires me to be online for single player? No

Is there a console game that requires me to create an account with the publisher in order to play it? No

If someone here mentions online passes in many consoles games to play multiplayer online, that doesn't count as DRM in my eyes.

There have been a few titles on PSN that have forced you to be signed into the network to play single player. Capcom was one of the publishers that has taken advantage of it in the past.

Consoles have had games that require you to create an account with the publisher to play. MMOs are the ones that spring to mind.

And it doesn't matter what you consider DRM, that's precisely what online passes are. :|

[QUOTE="Zlychop"][QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Boring for you maybe or to someone who has the attention span of a 5 year old. Project cars is a pure racing sim through and through and takes a LOT of practice and hours to get good at. It's fun for the people who want that type of game, no one buys it for a quick racing fix.

Project cars is to racing games as Arma II is to shooting games. Big, deep, rich with a crap load of features and a steep learning curve

Riadon2

And Zlychop's brain processes even less than the average console kid.

Is it just me or is it that the only time we see good looking console screenshots is when they are shown at the same resolution of a 3DS?

slimjimbadboy

Hell, that God of War Ascension screenshot was a little screenshot inside of another pic, not even close to full res...which would show how low resolution the textures are.

The screenshot below is actually a bullshot (note the complete lack of aliasing), but it does show how low res the textures are. The game looks pretty good due mostly to the colors and art direction...along with some decent lighting and post processing effects, but it isn't nearly as amazing as some cows make it out to be.

TC is making himself look very foolish

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="Zlychop"] Saving $ >>> Spending money on hardware for games that don't exist to actually make use of said expensive hardware until next gen consoles come out leading the way once again for the PC.Zlychop

Some people want the best and they are willing to pay for it

You know what? You remind me of someone bragging about watching VHS movies on a $30 VHS player they got at a swapmeet and saying "at the end of the day we are watching the same movies for 25% of the cost. Who wins? VHS owners."

It's such a stupid, pathetic argument. Yes, you might technically be playing the same game, but it is at a much lower quality. In other words, it's fine if you are ok watching VHS movies, but it is NOT ok to pretend that VHS is just as good as Blu-ray.

[QUOTE="Riadon2"][QUOTE="PinnacleGamingP"] have you ever ven played it? cuz it sure sounds like a noPinnacleGamingP

[QUOTE="Zlychop"][QUOTE="lostrib"]

Some people want the best and they are willing to pay for it

kalipekona

You know what? You remind me of someone bragging about watching VHS movies on a $30 VHS player they got at a swapmeet and saying "at the end of the day we are watching the same movies for 25% of the cost. Who wins? VHS owners."

It's such a stupid, pathetic argument. Yes, you might technically be playing the same game, but it is at a much lower quality. In other words, it's fine if you are ok watching VHS movies, but it is NOT ok to pretend that VHS is just as good as Blu-ray.

[QUOTE="PinnacleGamingP"][QUOTE="Riadon2"] A better question to ask is, have you played Crysis? It is far more dynamic and impressive than your little linear Indiana Jones movie wannabe. Also, is it so hard to use spellcheck?Riadon2

[QUOTE="kalipekona"]

[QUOTE="Zlychop"] Yeah, then they brag about how there $500 card with 32xaa on looks so much better than a $200 console. At the end of the day, we are still playing the same game for 25% of the cost of a true gaming PC. Who wins? Console gamers.Zlychop

You know what? You remind me of someone bragging about watching VHS movies on a $30 VHS player they got at a swapmeet and saying "at the end of the day we are watching the same movies for 25% of the cost. Who wins? VHS owners."

It's such a stupid, pathetic argument. Yes, you might technically be playing the same game, but it is at a much lower quality. In other words, it's fine if you are ok watching VHS movies, but it is NOT ok to pretend that VHS is just as good as Blu-ray.

Actually its more like 480 @ 30fps Vs 1080p. Which is, literally, VHS vs Blu-Ray.:P

[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"]Consoles are more optimized but they aren't superior in any way. Once you game on PC, you can't really go back to consoles because 75% of console games look straight trash. I tried playing BF3 MP on PS3 and I wanted to stab myself in the eye balls. DJP3000

I recently gave up on PC gaming. I used to have a GTX 580 in my i7-3820 system and used to mainly play on PC. I sold my GTX 580, and bought a Radeon HD 6450 with passive cooling and ended up with about $160 leftover, not counting the $15 rebate for my HD 6450. I own a PS3 and an Xbox 360 and they fill my gaming purposes just fine. I know I'm giving up graphics quality and frame rate for simplicity, less bugs, and no dealing with DRM. If I ever decide to return to PC gaming, the only thing I would have to change in my system would be the graphics card but I can't see myself returning to PC gaming any time soon. Most games are multiplatform anyways and PC hardly get's exclusives anymore, and the exclusives that I have for the PC I got bored of them.

Yeah, the vast majority of games are multiplatform games, which run and look better on the PC. So if anything that would be another reason to game on the PC.

[QUOTE="RyviusARC"][QUOTE="miriPlays"] But the details.... Forza has an emphasis on cars and it shows. Models and the overall visual presentation are unmatched.superclocked

GRID RACER PC without Codemaster's color filters...

GRID - Realism MOD by Dargo, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHkzvCuaqn0

[QUOTE="kalipekona"]

[QUOTE="Zlychop"] Yeah, then they brag about how there $500 card with 32xaa on looks so much better than a $200 console. At the end of the day, we are still playing the same game for 25% of the cost of a true gaming PC. Who wins? Console gamers.Zlychop

You know what? You remind me of someone bragging about watching VHS movies on a $30 VHS player they got at a swapmeet and saying "at the end of the day we are watching the same movies for 25% of the cost. Who wins? VHS owners."

It's such a stupid, pathetic argument. Yes, you might technically be playing the same game, but it is at a much lower quality. In other words, it's fine if you are ok watching VHS movies, but it is NOT ok to pretend that VHS is just as good as Blu-ray.

Complete nonsense. The difference is actually far greater between consoles and PC gaming than between VHS and Blu-ray. The jump between VHS and Blu-ray is mainly a difference in resolution. PC games compared to console games not only offer far higher resolutions, but they also offer much higher framerates (which is not just a visual thing, but also enhances the gameplay experience), higher quality assets (at least in some cases), further draw distances, higher fidelity post-processing effects, and the elimination and/or improvement of image-destroying artifacts like screen tearing and jaggies.

If something like screen tearing was present while watching a movie people would freak out and say the machine was broken and the image quality ruined. They would take the movie player back to the store and demand a refund. Yet console games are plagued with such eyesores.

1080p (1920 x 1080) represents more than twice the number of pixels as the 720p standard (1280 x 720), and PC gaming resolutions go much higher than 1920 x 1080.

So, as I've shown, the jump in image quality from consoles to PC is much, much greater than the jump between VHS and Blu-ray.

Vram isn't a big deal in resolution, unless you're using MSAA That's nearly 1920x1080 vs 428x242, and that only costs 56mb of vram.Inconsistancy

[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"] Vram isn't a big deal in resolution, unless you're using MSAA That's nearly 1920x1080 vs 428x242, and that only costs 56mb of vram.tormentos

Lol, no. As much as I find hermits to be annoying twits, its just not true. PC is capable of better framerate and visuals, no question.

[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="Inconsistancy"] Vram isn't a big deal in resolution, unless you're using MSAA That's nearly 1920x1080 vs 428x242, and that only costs 56mb of vram.Inconsistancy

The more of this thread I read the more I think TC doesn't actually understand what "Technical superiority" actually is. Most of which he puts down to face value and artistic merit.

Consoles are superior to PC gaming period

PC gaming is a open platform at the same time as it helps them it also hurts them

Closed platforms like Consoles is what gets the attention for many many reasons that make them better

Only thing making PC gaming squeak now is console life expanding

Oh consoles, can't even compete with an old PC game from 2004

Consoles are superior to PC gaming period

PC gaming is a open platform at the same time as it helps them it also hurts them

Closed platforms like Consoles is what gets the attention for many many reasons that make them better

Only thing making PC gaming squeak now is console life expanding

ebrezzy1

A cabbage with a keyboard could write a better post then you.

Lol, no. As much as I find hermits to be annoying twits, its just not true. PC is capable of better framerate and visuals, no question.

clone01

[QUOTE="clone01"]

Lol, no. As much as I find hermits to be annoying twits, its just not true. PC is capable of better framerate and visuals, no question.

Zlychop

On console resolutions of 720p and low settings,7800GTX can still play some modern games on decent frame-rates...

Here,take a look at this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vUeKOg6RJQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9D0EN8BbFoc&feature=related

The thing that kills it the most is the lack of unified shader architecture,but PS3 fixes that with SPEs,even though PS3's RSX is a slightly cut-down 7800 GTX...

The famed console optimization cannot turn a 2005 card into a 2012 card...

[QUOTE="Zlychop"][QUOTE="clone01"]

Lol, no. As much as I find hermits to be annoying twits, its just not true. PC is capable of better framerate and visuals, no question.

Rocker6

On console resolutions of 720p and low settings,7800GTX can still play some modern games on decent frame-rates...

Here,take a look at this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vUeKOg6RJQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9D0EN8BbFoc&feature=related

The thing that kills it the most is the lack of unified shader architecture,but PS3 fixes that with SPEs,even though PS3's RSX is a slightly cut-down 7800 GTX...

The famed console optimization cannot turn a 2005 card into a 2012 card...

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="Zlychop"] Of course but lets see a 7800 GTX run the games the consoles have been able to, at the same framerates.Zlychop

On console resolutions of 720p and low settings,7800GTX can still play some modern games on decent frame-rates...

Here,take a look at this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vUeKOg6RJQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9D0EN8BbFoc&feature=related

The thing that kills it the most is the lack of unified shader architecture,but PS3 fixes that with SPEs,even though PS3's RSX is a slightly cut-down 7800 GTX...

The famed console optimization cannot turn a 2005 card into a 2012 card...

Console cant even run games in proper HD, were you dropped on your head as a baby?

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="Zlychop"] Of course but lets see a 7800 GTX run the games the consoles have been able to, at the same framerates.Zlychop

On console resolutions of 720p and low settings,7800GTX can still play some modern games on decent frame-rates...

Here,take a look at this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vUeKOg6RJQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9D0EN8BbFoc&feature=related

The thing that kills it the most is the lack of unified shader architecture,but PS3 fixes that with SPEs,even though PS3's RSX is a slightly cut-down 7800 GTX...

The famed console optimization cannot turn a 2005 card into a 2012 card...

Go ahead,show me an "AAA" title that runs on consoles on 1080p,with the ability to go up to 60 FPS.

Explain me why BF3 doesn't have 64 player maps on consoles.

Can you do it,or are we done here?

[QUOTE="Zlychop"][QUOTE="Rocker6"]

On console resolutions of 720p and low settings,7800GTX can still play some modern games on decent frame-rates...

Here,take a look at this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vUeKOg6RJQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9D0EN8BbFoc&feature=related

The thing that kills it the most is the lack of unified shader architecture,but PS3 fixes that with SPEs,even though PS3's RSX is a slightly cut-down 7800 GTX...

The famed console optimization cannot turn a 2005 card into a 2012 card...

tenaka2

Console cant even run games in proper HD, were you dropped on your head as a baby?

Were you punched in your head as a baby? Probably not, you just got beaten up by kids (repeated blows to your brain) growing up for being a punk.

640P at 10 ft = no visible differenceto the naked eye compared to 1080p

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="Zlychop"] Console optimization can rival performance of a 2012 card, this is well known. Some games run the same on consoles as they do on PC, by console optimization. Halo 4, wait for it and be amazed by how close it looks to the top PC ttiles.Zlychop

Console cant even run games in proper HD, were you dropped on your head as a baby?

Were you punched in your head as a baby? Probably not, you just got beaten up by kids (repeated blows to your brain) growing up for being a punk.

640P at 10 ft = no visible differenceto the naked eye compared to 1080p

So that's your argument? :lol:

Backpedaling much?

Oh well,at least you now admited consoles technically aren't nowhere near PC...

What's your next argument?

"Buh buh,I like art style in console games more"

Perhaps that? :lol:

[QUOTE="Zlychop"]

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

Console cant even run games in proper HD, were you dropped on your head as a baby?

Rocker6

Were you punched in your head as a baby? Probably not, you just got beaten up by kids (repeated blows to your brain) growing up for being a punk.

640P at 10 ft = no visible differenceto the naked eye compared to 1080p

So that's your argument? :lol:

Backpedaling much?

Oh well,at least you now admited consoles technically aren't nowhere near PC...

What's your next argument?

"Buh buh,I like art style in console games more"

Perhaps that? :lol:

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="Zlychop"]

Were you punched in your head as a baby? Probably not, you just got beaten up by kids (repeated blows to your brain) growing up for being a punk.

640P at 10 ft = no visible differenceto the naked eye compared to 1080p

lowe0

So that's your argument? :lol:

Backpedaling much?

Oh well,at least you now admited consoles technically aren't nowhere near PC...

What's your next argument?

"Buh buh,I like art style in console games more"

Perhaps that? :lol:

That point about distance does hold some water,even though some visual flaws still remain noticeable.But that's besides the point here...

We're arguing technical levels.What device is more advanced,one that can output 720p,or one that can output 1080p?

Keep in mind,this is not one of those threads where we argue preferences,and subjectivities.Just pure technical facts.And on a pure technical level,1080p>720p.Not even you can deny that....

He said consoles are technically superior than PCs,he got proven wrong,and now he has nowhere to go...

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="Zlychop"]

Were you punched in your head as a baby? Probably not, you just got beaten up by kids (repeated blows to your brain) growing up for being a punk.

640P at 10 ft = no visible differenceto the naked eye compared to 1080p

lowe0

So that's your argument? :lol:

Backpedaling much?

Oh well,at least you now admited consoles technically aren't nowhere near PC...

What's your next argument?

"Buh buh,I like art style in console games more"

Perhaps that? :lol:

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="Rocker6"]

So that's your argument? :lol:

Backpedaling much?

Oh well,at least you now admited consoles technically aren't nowhere near PC...

What's your next argument?

"Buh buh,I like art style in console games more"

Perhaps that? :lol:

Rocker6

That point about distance does hold some water,even though some visual flaws still remain noticeable.But that's besides the point here...

We're arguing technical levels.What device is more advanced,one that can output 720p,or one that can output 1080p?

Keep in mind,this is not one of those threads where we argue preferences,and subjectivities.Just pure technical facts.And on a pure technical level,1080p>720p.Not even you can deny that....

He said consoles are technically superior than PCs,he got proven wrong,and now he has nowhere to go...

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="Zlychop"] Of course but lets see a 7800 GTX run the games the consoles have been able to, at the same framerates.Zlychop

On console resolutions of 720p and low settings,7800GTX can still play some modern games on decent frame-rates...

Here,take a look at this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vUeKOg6RJQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9D0EN8BbFoc&feature=related

The thing that kills it the most is the lack of unified shader architecture,but PS3 fixes that with SPEs,even though PS3's RSX is a slightly cut-down 7800 GTX...

The famed console optimization cannot turn a 2005 card into a 2012 card...

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="Zlychop"] Console optimization can rival performance of a 2012 card, this is well known. Some games run the same on consoles as they do on PC, by console optimization. Halo 4, wait for it and be amazed by how close it looks to the top PC ttiles.Zlychop

Console cant even run games in proper HD, were you dropped on your head as a baby?

Were you punched in your head as a baby? Probably not, you just got beaten up by kids (repeated blows to your brain) growing up for being a punk.

640P at 10 ft = no visible differenceto the naked eye compared to 1080p

lol 640p go back to your trailor peasant.

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] He's got a point... at 10 feet, the human eye can only resolve every pixel of 720p if it's on a 50 inch screen or larger. 1080p pushes that into the high 70 inch range.lowe0

That point about distance does hold some water,even though some visual flaws still remain noticeable.But that's besides the point here...

We're arguing technical levels.What device is more advanced,one that can output 720p,or one that can output 1080p?

Keep in mind,this is not one of those threads where we argue preferences,and subjectivities.Just pure technical facts.And on a pure technical level,1080p>720p.Not even you can deny that....

He said consoles are technically superior than PCs,he got proven wrong,and now he has nowhere to go...

Glad to see we can agree on this :)

Yes,I do agree that consoles aged very well,and still give out some nice looking and unique games(I'd really love Heavy Rain and Beyond Two Souls on my PC,for example,as well as RDR).But none of those games can come close to beating modern PC games at technical visuals...

The point about coding is correct too,due to standardized console hardware,but the TC claimed consoles in general are technically more superior devices than the PC,and that's just plain incorrect...

That's what I'm disaproving,and since he has no comeback,I'd say I'm done...

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="Zlychop"]

Were you punched in your head as a baby? Probably not, you just got beaten up by kids (repeated blows to your brain) growing up for being a punk.

640P at 10 ft = no visible differenceto the naked eye compared to 1080p

lowe0

So that's your argument? :lol:

Backpedaling much?

Oh well,at least you now admited consoles technically aren't nowhere near PC...

What's your next argument?

"Buh buh,I like art style in console games more"

Perhaps that? :lol:

lol and lowe0 chimes in on yet another anti PC thread with his expertise on the human eye no less. Could you try another tune? You are getting more then a little boring.

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="Zlychop"]

Were you punched in your head as a baby? Probably not, you just got beaten up by kids (repeated blows to your brain) growing up for being a punk.

640P at 10 ft = no visible differenceto the naked eye compared to 1080p

lowe0

So that's your argument? :lol:

Backpedaling much?

Oh well,at least you now admited consoles technically aren't nowhere near PC...

What's your next argument?

"Buh buh,I like art style in console games more"

Perhaps that? :lol:

Which is where the whole resolution thing falls apart between the two. PCs are played on a smaller screen really close. Consoles are from up to 6+ feet away on a bigger screen. But the PCs are still doing more "technically" which is TCs arguement.

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="Rocker6"]

So that's your argument? :lol:

Backpedaling much?

Oh well,at least you now admited consoles technically aren't nowhere near PC...

What's your next argument?

"Buh buh,I like art style in console games more"

Perhaps that? :lol:

tenaka2

lol and lowe0 chimes in on yet another anti PC thread with his expertise on the human eye no less. Could you try another tune? You are getting more then a little boring.

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] He's got a point... at 10 feet, the human eye can only resolve every pixel of 720p if it's on a 50 inch screen or larger. 1080p pushes that into the high 70 inch range.lowe0

lol and lowe0 chimes in on yet another anti PC thread with his expertise on the human eye no less. Could you try another tune? You are getting more then a little boring.

Oh dear...

I already have the script in my head,telling me exactly how will this play out.And it's not pretty :(

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] He's got a point... at 10 feet, the human eye can only resolve every pixel of 720p if it's on a 50 inch screen or larger. 1080p pushes that into the high 70 inch range.lowe0

lol and lowe0 chimes in on yet another anti PC thread with his expertise on the human eye no less. Could you try another tune? You are getting more then a little boring.

Pulling random stats out of your ass is never accurate lowe0, everyone gets it you like technically inferior games. Its your opinion and you are entitled to it. Go you.

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

lol and lowe0 chimes in on yet another anti PC thread with his expertise on the human eye no less. Could you try another tune? You are getting more then a little boring.

Rocker6

Oh dear...

I already have the script in my head,telling me exactly how will this play out.And it's not pretty :(

Na, can't be arsed with lowe0s opinions, he has no facts and just relies on the 'better for me' stance which is less then usless in a debate.

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

lol and lowe0 chimes in on yet another anti PC thread with his expertise on the human eye no less. Could you try another tune? You are getting more then a little boring.

tenaka2

Pulling random stats out of your ass is never accurate lowe0, everyone gets it you like technically inferior games. Its your opinion and you are entitled to it. Go you.

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

lol and lowe0 chimes in on yet another anti PC thread with his expertise on the human eye no less. Could you try another tune? You are getting more then a little boring.

Rocker6

Oh dear...

I already have the script in my head,telling me exactly how will this play out.And it's not pretty :(

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="Zlychop"]

Were you punched in your head as a baby? Probably not, you just got beaten up by kids (repeated blows to your brain) growing up for being a punk.

640P at 10 ft = no visible differenceto the naked eye compared to 1080p

lowe0

So that's your argument? :lol:

Backpedaling much?

Oh well,at least you now admited consoles technically aren't nowhere near PC...

What's your next argument?

"Buh buh,I like art style in console games more"

Perhaps that? :lol:

This.

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] Could you explain what part of my post was technically inaccurate?lowe0

Pulling random stats out of your ass is never accurate lowe0, everyone gets it you like technically inferior games. Its your opinion and you are entitled to it. Go you.

I feel this is relevant to your "discussion"...

So yeah,Lowe is right here...

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="Rocker6"]

So that's your argument? :lol:

Backpedaling much?

Oh well,at least you now admited consoles technically aren't nowhere near PC...

What's your next argument?

"Buh buh,I like art style in console games more"

Perhaps that? :lol:

Rocker6

That point about distance does hold some water,even though some visual flaws still remain noticeable.But that's besides the point here...

We're arguing technical levels.What device is more advanced,one that can output 720p,or one that can output 1080p?

Keep in mind,this is not one of those threads where we argue preferences,and subjectivities.Just pure technical facts.And on a pure technical level,1080p>720p.Not even you can deny that....

He said consoles are technically superior than PCs,he got proven wrong,and now he has nowhere to go...

You don't understand.

Consoles are technically superior given that with what they have, hardware that doesn't change can rival even today's PC visuals.

PC hardware uses brute force to typically run games, whereas console games are coded technically to the metal (lowest level of assembly coding).

Hence why console games are in fact technically superior, if you have anything less than maybe a GTX 295 today, consoles will run games better.

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="Rocker6"]

So that's your argument? :lol:

Backpedaling much?

Oh well,at least you now admited consoles technically aren't nowhere near PC...

What's your next argument?

"Buh buh,I like art style in console games more"

Perhaps that? :lol:

Zlychop

This.

Sorry,Lowe cannot save you here,that in no way proves consoles are technically superior over PC ;)