Consoles > PC

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="wok7"]Consoles have PC's pwned. But of course the only true PC Gamers are those hardcore types who don't mind upgrading everytime the newer hardware comes out.wok7

Thats cause you;re a casual gamer : /

Consoles have PC's pwned. But of course the only true PC Gamers are those hardcore types who don't mind upgrading everytime the newer hardware comes out.wok7

Dude, I think you should just stop trying to do the whole anti-PC argument thing. Your name has become synonymous with epic failure after the "PC Gaming can't do HD" thing, nobody will ever take anything you say seriously anymore.

I stopped reading at 7600 GT ... if you actually educated yourself on what you was buying, saved up that difference for a 7800+ at the time, it would of lasted you ALOT longer and you would of saved money, nobody to blame but your consumer ignorance.

Meu2k7

[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

I stopped reading at 7600 GT ... if you actually educated yourself on what you was buying, saved up that difference for a 7800+ at the time, it would of lasted you ALOT longer and you would of saved money, nobody to blame but your consumer ignorance.

lowe0

If it wasnt, nobody would do it. And well, being mostly a Manticore most generations ( well since the snes ) with some few exceptions .. I would say yes it is worth it ...

But I use a PC for ALOT and I mean ALOT.

Consoles also have a wider variety of games that are not availible for the PC.

Let me name a few current and up-coming titles/series.

Metal Gear Solid 4, GTA IV, Halo 3, Killzone 2, Drakes Uncharted, SKATE, Tony Hawk series, Burnout series, Gran Turismo series, Mario series, Zelda series, God of War series, Resident Evil series, Silent Hill series, Jak series, Rachet and Clank series, Devil May Cry series, Final Fantasy series, Soul Calibur series, Tekken series, Super Smash bros series. I can go on and on.

Oh yeah. Crysis is on its way to the PS3 and Far Cry 2 is coming to both the 360 and PS3. Army of Two is also coming to consoles.

Consoles also have a wider variety of games that are not availible for the PC.

Let me name a few current and up-coming titles/series.

Metal Gear Solid 4, GTA IV, Halo 3, Killzone 2, Drakes Uncharted, SKATE, Tony Hawk series, Burnout series, Gran Turismo series, Mario series, Zelda series, God of War series, Resident Evil series, Silent Hill series, Jak series, Rachet and Clank series, Devil May Cry series, Final Fantasy series, Soul Calibur series, Tekken series, Super Smash bros series. I can go on and on.

Oh yeah. Crysis is on its way to the PS3 and Far Cry 2 is coming to both the 360 and PS3. Army of Two is also coming to consoles.

nVidiaGaMer

[QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]

Consoles also have a wider variety of games that are not availible for the PC.

Let me name a few current and up-coming titles/series.

Metal Gear Solid 4, GTA IV, Halo 3, Killzone 2, Drakes Uncharted, SKATE, Tony Hawk series, Burnout series, Gran Turismo series, Mario series, Zelda series, God of War series, Resident Evil series, Silent Hill series, Jak series, Rachet and Clank series, Devil May Cry series, Final Fantasy series, Soul Calibur series, Tekken series, Super Smash bros series. I can go on and on.

Oh yeah. Crysis is on its way to the PS3 and Far Cry 2 is coming to both the 360 and PS3. Army of Two is also coming to consoles.

Vandalvideo

Yea, back in the 90's >.>

And your WoW hours comment solidifies your casual gamer status.

[QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]

Consoles also have a wider variety of games that are not availible for the PC.

Let me name a few current and up-coming titles/series.

Metal Gear Solid 4, GTA IV, Halo 3, Killzone 2, Drakes Uncharted, SKATE, Tony Hawk series, Burnout series, Gran Turismo series, Mario series, Zelda series, God of War series, Resident Evil series, Silent Hill series, Jak series, Rachet and Clank series, Devil May Cry series, Final Fantasy series, Soul Calibur series, Tekken series, Super Smash bros series. I can go on and on.

Oh yeah. Crysis is on its way to the PS3 and Far Cry 2 is coming to both the 360 and PS3. Army of Two is also coming to consoles.

Vandalvideo

Your wrong.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]

Consoles also have a wider variety of games that are not availible for the PC.

Let me name a few current and up-coming titles/series.

Metal Gear Solid 4, GTA IV, Halo 3, Killzone 2, Drakes Uncharted, SKATE, Tony Hawk series, Burnout series, Gran Turismo series, Mario series, Zelda series, God of War series, Resident Evil series, Silent Hill series, Jak series, Rachet and Clank series, Devil May Cry series, Final Fantasy series, Soul Calibur series, Tekken series, Super Smash bros series. I can go on and on.

Oh yeah. Crysis is on its way to the PS3 and Far Cry 2 is coming to both the 360 and PS3. Army of Two is also coming to consoles.

wok7

Yea, back in the 90's >.>

And your WoW hours comment solidifies your casual gamer status.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]

Consoles also have a wider variety of games that are not availible for the PC.

Let me name a few current and up-coming titles/series.

Metal Gear Solid 4, GTA IV, Halo 3, Killzone 2, Drakes Uncharted, SKATE, Tony Hawk series, Burnout series, Gran Turismo series, Mario series, Zelda series, God of War series, Resident Evil series, Silent Hill series, Jak series, Rachet and Clank series, Devil May Cry series, Final Fantasy series, Soul Calibur series, Tekken series, Super Smash bros series. I can go on and on.

Oh yeah. Crysis is on its way to the PS3 and Far Cry 2 is coming to both the 360 and PS3. Army of Two is also coming to consoles.

nVidiaGaMer

Your wrong.

Consoles also have a wider variety of games that are not availible for the PC.

Let me name a few current and up-coming titles/series.

Metal Gear Solid 4, GTA IV, Halo 3, Killzone 2, Drakes Uncharted, SKATE, Tony Hawk series, Burnout series, Gran Turismo series, Mario series, Zelda series, God of War series, Resident Evil series, Silent Hill series, Jak series, Rachet and Clank series, Devil May Cry series, Final Fantasy series, Soul Calibur series, Tekken series, Super Smash bros series. I can go on and on.

Oh yeah. Crysis is on its way to the PS3 and Far Cry 2 is coming to both the 360 and PS3. Army of Two is also coming to consoles.

nVidiaGaMer

I love how you stack all consoles game together... If I only have a PS3, how can I play Mario?

[QUOTE="wok7"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]

Consoles also have a wider variety of games that are not availible for the PC.

Let me name a few current and up-coming titles/series.

Metal Gear Solid 4, GTA IV, Halo 3, Killzone 2, Drakes Uncharted, SKATE, Tony Hawk series, Burnout series, Gran Turismo series, Mario series, Zelda series, God of War series, Resident Evil series, Silent Hill series, Jak series, Rachet and Clank series, Devil May Cry series, Final Fantasy series, Soul Calibur series, Tekken series, Super Smash bros series. I can go on and on.

Oh yeah. Crysis is on its way to the PS3 and Far Cry 2 is coming to both the 360 and PS3. Army of Two is also coming to consoles.

Vandalvideo

Yea, back in the 90's >.>

And your WoW hours comment solidifies your casual gamer status.

Name some AAA titles then. And WOW is a waste of a persons life.

I got a 7600GT two years ago and it became obsolete in only a few months. My buddy got two 7900GTX's which became dated in under a year. What I'm saying is no matter which upgrade you buy it will become dated in such a short time. Consoles on the other hand have a shelf life of 5 years (on average sometimes more). I will not want to upgrade my PC every 6 months. I'd rather buy a new console every 5 years. It also saves lots of money.nVidiaGaMer

Ironic, because your 7600GT is in your PS3

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="wok7"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]

Consoles also have a wider variety of games that are not availible for the PC.

Let me name a few current and up-coming titles/series.

Metal Gear Solid 4, GTA IV, Halo 3, Killzone 2, Drakes Uncharted, SKATE, Tony Hawk series, Burnout series, Gran Turismo series, Mario series, Zelda series, God of War series, Resident Evil series, Silent Hill series, Jak series, Rachet and Clank series, Devil May Cry series, Final Fantasy series, Soul Calibur series, Tekken series, Super Smash bros series. I can go on and on.

Oh yeah. Crysis is on its way to the PS3 and Far Cry 2 is coming to both the 360 and PS3. Army of Two is also coming to consoles.

nVidiaGaMer

Yea, back in the 90's >.>

And your WoW hours comment solidifies your casual gamer status.

Name some AAA titles then. And WOW is a waste of a persons life.

Halo 3 is a waste of someones life too, CoD4 rank 55's are wasting thier lives too.

See what I did thar?

Consoles have PC's pwned. But of course the only true PC Gamers are those hardcore types who don't mind upgrading everytime the newer hardware comes out.wok7

My 6600GT is running Crysis right now, can your 360 do that?

Name some AAA titles then. And WOW is a waste of a persons life.nVidiaGaMer

Either way PC people will not be able to play the 2008 Game of The Year:

Metal Gear Solid 4

Either way PC geeks will not be able to play the 2008 Game of The Year:

Metal Gear Solid 4

nVidiaGaMer

:lol: oh dear .... since when has a metal gear game been good enough to win GOTY?

Either way PC geeks will not be able to play the 2008 Game of The Year:

Metal Gear Solid 4

nVidiaGaMer

good luck with that....Starcraft 2's dev, Blizzard, has gotten 3 GOTY here...and Spore's dev got a GOTY for the Sims...MGS isnt gonna beat that.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="wok7"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]

Consoles also have a wider variety of games that are not availible for the PC.

Let me name a few current and up-coming titles/series.

Metal Gear Solid 4, GTA IV, Halo 3, Killzone 2, Drakes Uncharted, SKATE, Tony Hawk series, Burnout series, Gran Turismo series, Mario series, Zelda series, God of War series, Resident Evil series, Silent Hill series, Jak series, Rachet and Clank series, Devil May Cry series, Final Fantasy series, Soul Calibur series, Tekken series, Super Smash bros series. I can go on and on.

Oh yeah. Crysis is on its way to the PS3 and Far Cry 2 is coming to both the 360 and PS3. Army of Two is also coming to consoles.

nVidiaGaMer

Yea, back in the 90's >.>

And your WoW hours comment solidifies your casual gamer status.

Name some AAA titles then. And WOW is a waste of a persons life.

Crysis? World In Conflict?

Either way PC people will not be able to play the 2008 Game of The Year:

Metal Gear Solid 4

nVidiaGaMer

Are you serious!!!!!!! it's not coming for PC!?!?!?!??!?! OMG!

Either way PC people will not be able to play the 2008 Game of The Year:

Metal Gear Solid 4

nVidiaGaMer

FYF: All 3 consoles are cheaper than a Gaming PC, not mention just one carries more games worth buying as well as more genres, how nice : )wok7

Since you fail PC knowledge... but now... you also failed maths?

This is my response to the OP

"A ford mustang GT is way better than a Dodge Viper because they are both sports cars but the mustang is 3.5 times CHEAPER. Plus it gets better gas milage and the maintenance is cheaper tooo! I don't get why people would waste their money on a sports car like the Viper when you can just get a ford mustang." ==== Some people just don't get gaming at all.

Dave_NBF

lol...

The thing is that i got a decent PC (not to say a crappy one for nowdays) more than 4 years now and im still playing on decent resolutions (1024x768) almost max settings games like COD4.

I play multiplayer games in a better way than any console gamer.

I play games and i pay almost "half-price" than any console game out there (not to mention for PC gamers tha use copies)

I play 100% free online games (MMORPGs and not only) via internet.

I play ALL your ports when they arrive on PC plus my own "exclusives" in half-price and better resolution-graphics(on my HDtv with PS pad,so i dont loose anything from the game cause of controls or monitor,exaclty same or better than console)

I play 123123123123 Mods of my favorites games free or even online (counterstrike its an example)

I have some of the best games ever created as exclusive

I enjoy FPS the most :P Key+mouse for the win plus the high resolutions or better,HDTV makes them superior to any console)

Not to mention the 12312123 other capabilities/multimedia/programs i can use for my own enjoyment (free from internet)

Some genres are PC only (or at least play best) and very competitive thru net (RTS- FPS - MMORPG)

Well thats it cant think something else to add.Thats why i never compare PC to any console. PC > any console.Thats why its more expensive too though. IMHO,PC is ownage. If you cant afford it though then consoles are for you,because of the low price. Thats the only difference.IMO

[QUOTE="wok7"]Consoles have PC's pwned. But of course the only true PC Gamers are those hardcore types who don't mind upgrading everytime the newer hardware comes out.DucksBrains

My 6600GT is running Crysis right now, can your 360 do that?

Yea, but for now Crysis is just being paid to be exclusive. There won't be a RAM problem, the levels will just be streamed into parts like in Halo 3. As for teh physics, all thats been done is add the enemies as pick-up-able objects, make the trees and buildings able to fall down. Nothing evolutionary.

[QUOTE="DucksBrains"]

[QUOTE="wok7"]Consoles have PC's pwned. But of course the only true PC Gamers are those hardcore types who don't mind upgrading everytime the newer hardware comes out.wok7

My 6600GT is running Crysis right now, can your 360 do that?

Yea, but for now Crysis is just being paid to be exclusive. There won't be a RAM problem, the levels will just be streamed into parts like in Halo 3. As for teh physics, all thats been done is add the enemies as pick-up-able objects, make the trees and buildings able to fall down. Nothing evolutionary.

Spliting up the level into parts kills the whole point of the game....and no it wont get ported.

[QUOTE="DucksBrains"]

[QUOTE="wok7"]Consoles have PC's pwned. But of course the only true PC Gamers are those hardcore types who don't mind upgrading everytime the newer hardware comes out.wok7

My 6600GT is running Crysis right now, can your 360 do that?

Yea, but for now Crysis is just being paid to be exclusive. There won't be a RAM problem, the levels will just be streamed into parts like in Halo 3. As for teh physics, all thats been done is add the enemies as pick-up-able objects, make the trees and buildings able to fall down. Nothing evolutionary.

you cant stream crysis level by level since the game is...SURPRISE...open world.

of course, if crysis comes out on consoles, it will be an on-rails shooter just like cod4 and will be called Crysis: Instincts

edit: sorry, forgot to add, you have no idea what you're talking about

[QUOTE="wok7"][QUOTE="DucksBrains"]

[QUOTE="wok7"]Consoles have PC's pwned. But of course the only true PC Gamers are those hardcore types who don't mind upgrading everytime the newer hardware comes out.cobrax25

My 6600GT is running Crysis right now, can your 360 do that?

Yea, but for now Crysis is just being paid to be exclusive. There won't be a RAM problem, the levels will just be streamed into parts like in Halo 3. As for teh physics, all thats been done is add the enemies as pick-up-able objects, make the trees and buildings able to fall down. Nothing evolutionary.

Spliting up the level into parts kills the whole point of the game....and no it wont get ported.

It won't effect the gameplay, and lol it will be ported, but you still have your other exclusives like WoW : /

[QUOTE="wok7"]FYF: All 3 consoles are cheaper than a Gaming PC, not mention just one carries more games worth buying as well as more genres, how nice : )Bebi_vegeta

Since you fail PC knowledge... but now... you also failed maths?

If you factor in games, then Consoles are more expensive simply because there's more games to buy.

[QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="wok7"][QUOTE="DucksBrains"]

[QUOTE="wok7"]Consoles have PC's pwned. But of course the only true PC Gamers are those hardcore types who don't mind upgrading everytime the newer hardware comes out.wok7

My 6600GT is running Crysis right now, can your 360 do that?

Yea, but for now Crysis is just being paid to be exclusive. There won't be a RAM problem, the levels will just be streamed into parts like in Halo 3. As for teh physics, all thats been done is add the enemies as pick-up-able objects, make the trees and buildings able to fall down. Nothing evolutionary.

Spliting up the level into parts kills the whole point of the game....and no it wont get ported.

It won't effect the gameplay, and lol it will be ported, but you still have your other exclusives like WoW : /

its an open world game....the whole point is that you can go anywhere you want....

Why do the same people who fail, keep trying only fail repeatedly.

Its a bit sad isnt it.

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="wok7"]FYF: All 3 consoles are cheaper than a Gaming PC, not mention just one carries more games worth buying as well as more genres, how nice : )wok7

Since you fail PC knowledge... but now... you also failed maths?

If you factor in games, then Consoles are more expensive simply because there's more games to buy.

You have more games... I have more AAA games. Quality over quantity anyday!

If you factor in games, then Consoles are more expensive simply because there's more games to buy.

wok7

Bet these games are right up your alley i this case

Consoles also have a wider variety of games that are not availible for the PC.

Let me name a few current and up-coming titles/series.

Metal Gear Solid 4, GTA IV, Halo 3, Killzone 2, Drakes Uncharted, SKATE, Tony Hawk series, Burnout series, Gran Turismo series, Mario series, Zelda series, God of War series, Resident Evil series, Silent Hill series, Jak series, Rachet and Clank series, Devil May Cry series, Final Fantasy series, Soul Calibur series, Tekken series, Super Smash bros series. I can go on and on.

Oh yeah. Crysis is on its way to the PS3 and Far Cry 2 is coming to both the 360 and PS3. Army of Two is also coming to consoles.

nVidiaGaMer

Ive played half of the games you mentioning on my PC... lol...

From GTA thru Devil may cry,from Silent hill to Resident evil games,for Zelda (call me emulators) to super smash bros.From gears of war to Halo3.

And again ill play DMC4 plus GTA4 after some months,so?? What if i play them afterwards? I lack of games to keep me till then? Dont think so :D.

But you got a point there,that there are some games that you simply dont find em on PCs.Well thats logical. If there werent such games why to have a console in the end? Stills i can play many of them,and eventually more ports will come later. Thats enough for me i guess,i cant play 24/7 so many games :P

LMAO! Spore for Game of The Year?! Hey everybody you can stick a cro*** on a deku tree! LOL! Thats seriously going to be worst Game Award for 2008.nVidiaGaMer

Its predecesor got GOTY...which is far more than can be said for MGS4.

[QUOTE="wok7"][QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="wok7"][QUOTE="DucksBrains"]

[QUOTE="wok7"]Consoles have PC's pwned. But of course the only true PC Gamers are those hardcore types who don't mind upgrading everytime the newer hardware comes out.cobrax25

My 6600GT is running Crysis right now, can your 360 do that?

Yea, but for now Crysis is just being paid to be exclusive. There won't be a RAM problem, the levels will just be streamed into parts like in Halo 3. As for teh physics, all thats been done is add the enemies as pick-up-able objects, make the trees and buildings able to fall down. Nothing evolutionary.

Spliting up the level into parts kills the whole point of the game....and no it wont get ported.

It won't effect the gameplay, and lol it will be ported, but you still have your other exclusives like WoW : /

its an open world game....the whole point is that you can go anywhere you want....

And how will it be different from what I said? You aren't gonna be in all places at once so streaming the parts of the level as you come to them and back isn't gonna matter.

What i love about consols is that i don't need to worry about if i have enough memory,

cpu speed or a good enough GPU to play the game i just bought at max setting. IMO

i don't think its worth buying a game that you can only play on low setting.

LMAO! Spore for Game of The Year?! Hey everybody you can stick a cro*** on a deku tree! LOL! Thats seriously going to be worst Game Award for 2008.nVidiaGaMer

And how the Sims went to sell well over 20 million, and WoW over 10 million - rising.

Hmm.....

[QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="wok7"][QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="wok7"][QUOTE="DucksBrains"]

[QUOTE="wok7"]Consoles have PC's pwned. But of course the only true PC Gamers are those hardcore types who don't mind upgrading everytime the newer hardware comes out.wok7

My 6600GT is running Crysis right now, can your 360 do that?

Yea, but for now Crysis is just being paid to be exclusive. There won't be a RAM problem, the levels will just be streamed into parts like in Halo 3. As for teh physics, all thats been done is add the enemies as pick-up-able objects, make the trees and buildings able to fall down. Nothing evolutionary.

Spliting up the level into parts kills the whole point of the game....and no it wont get ported.

It won't effect the gameplay, and lol it will be ported, but you still have your other exclusives like WoW : /

its an open world game....the whole point is that you can go anywhere you want....

And how will it be different from what I said? You aren't gonna be in all places at once so streaming the parts of the level as you come to them and back isn't gonna matter.

uh...the whole point is that you can interact with everything at once...Enemies dont just stand still...they do things like patrol across the entire map....

[QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]LMAO! Spore for Game of The Year?! Hey everybody you can stick a cro*** on a deku tree! LOL! Thats seriously going to be worst Game Award for 2008.skrat_01

And how the Sims went to sell well over 20 million, and WoW over 10 million - rising.

Hmm.....

the Sims got GOTY also.

What i love about consols is that i don't need to worry about if i have enough memory,

cpu speed or a good enough GPU to play the game i just bought at max setting. IMO

i don't think its worth buying a game that you can only play on low setting.

Medic_B

and streaming a level isnt enough to get it to run on a console, you have to take into account mem pools regarding navmeshes that are loaded, textures, shaders and how many instructions each shader has, mipmaps on all your textures, streamable static meshes, streamable textures, lightmaps, number of dynamic lights, dynamic actors, procedural AI with 8 to 10 AI on screen, adaptive portals and zone culling, object culling and visibility (the ps3 and xbox handle this very differently and badly), object priority, physics objects (that have to be dynamically lit since they can be moved), in Crysis' case, real world physics and weather with wind and advanced envrionment physics, per-mesh portals and culling, DOF and MB...

All this costs a whole lot in the end and just because you learnt a new game development word today "streaming", doesnt make Crysis possible on consoles.

[QUOTE="skrat_01"]

[QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]LMAO! Spore for Game of The Year?! Hey everybody you can stick a cro*** on a deku tree! LOL! Thats seriously going to be worst Game Award for 2008.cobrax25

And how the Sims went to sell well over 20 million, and WoW over 10 million - rising.

Hmm.....

the Sims got GOTY also.

PC's best games are always the tamest/most casual that don't even need the good vid cards. We think its nice : )wok7