Consoles > PC

This topic is locked from further discussion.

Avatar image for WARxSnake
WARxSnake

2154

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#201 WARxSnake
Member since 2006 • 2154 Posts
[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]

[QUOTE="wok7"]Xbox had a short life yet had more succes than the PC in the same time frame.wok7

PC has the longest life and is still going strong. Come again?

Longest and strongest for non-gaming apps, but look how much ground and genre's its lost to the consoles.

yeah those console RTS's sure beat their PC counterparts.

consoles will only ever borrow FPS,TPS,RPG and maybe MMO from PC and thats it.

Avatar image for DragonfireXZ95
DragonfireXZ95

26716

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#202 DragonfireXZ95
Member since 2005 • 26716 Posts
[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]

[QUOTE="wok7"]Xbox had a short life yet had more succes than the PC in the same time frame.wok7

PC has the longest life and is still going strong. Come again?

Longest and strongest for gaming and non-gaming apps, but look how much ground and genre's its gained over the consoles.

Fixed.

Avatar image for WARxSnake
WARxSnake

2154

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#203 WARxSnake
Member since 2006 • 2154 Posts
[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="wok7"][QUOTE="skrat_01"]

[QUOTE="wok7"]Xbox had a short life yet had more succes than the PC in the same time frame.wok7

Thats why it was a financial distaster for MS right?

Oh so sucessful.

The best game companies take loses so their fans win, and thats so Nice : )

Yeah, red ring of death say's HI!!!!

3-year warranty gives his regards as well : )

all PC parts have 3 years waranty and RAM has lifetime warranty, and last i checked, my 8800gtx doesnt get RROD.

Avatar image for cobrax25
cobrax25

9649

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#204 cobrax25
Member since 2006 • 9649 Posts
[QUOTE="wok7"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="wok7"][QUOTE="skrat_01"]

[QUOTE="wok7"]Xbox had a short life yet had more succes than the PC in the same time frame.WARxSnake

Thats why it was a financial distaster for MS right?

Oh so sucessful.

The best game companies take loses so their fans win, and thats so Nice : )

Yeah, red ring of death say's HI!!!!

3-year warranty gives his regards as well : )

all PC parts have 3 years waranty and RAM has lifetime warranty, and last i checked, my 8800gtx doesnt get RROD.

I think all Nvidia cards have a lifetime warrenty on them

Avatar image for wok7
wok7

2034

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#205 wok7
Member since 2003 • 2034 Posts
[QUOTE="wok7"][QUOTE="screamingdoom"][QUOTE="wok7"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="wok7"]My computer was 2 years old yet it could barely chug Crysis at 15fps on low. Maybe If upgraded back then I might been on medium, but LOL upgrading is a fundamental problem and you can't worm your way out of it.WARxSnake

Be grateful you can even play Crysis on last gen hardawre. Find me an xbox that can play gears. Oh thats right you can't. NOW BE GRATEFUL.

Gears is an Xbox360 game :roll:

Um, I think he means the first console, just the Xbox. Basically we all have to upgrade at some point to play the latest games. But you do not have to upgrade your pc as often as people think.

A lot more often than a console but lets leave it at that.

actually, lets not, we spent 2 pages proving that you dont need to upgrade at all through the lifetime of a console if you buy smart, so no, we wont leave it at that.

You don't have to upgrade if you don't want the 'How it was meant to be played' experience, it's in your logo, you know.

Avatar image for PS3_3DO
PS3_3DO

10976

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#206 PS3_3DO
Member since 2006 • 10976 Posts
[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"][QUOTE="dgsag"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

Consoles last at least 6 years. The 360 is going to last for 8 years.

WARxSnake

Like the Xbox? :lol:

The Xbox didn't make any money for MS so that is the reason that stop supporting it. The 360 is a lot different since MS is making money from it and is going to be the new PS2.

read this please

http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/24/xbox-goes-profitable-almost-like-a-grown-up-business/

Yeah I read about that a few days ago on Gamespot news. The 360 is going to last until 2011 for sure and after the new Xbox system is out MS is still going to support the 360.

Avatar image for householdman
householdman

560

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#207 householdman
Member since 2004 • 560 Posts
[QUOTE="wok7"][QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]

[QUOTE="wok7"]Xbox had a short life yet had more succes than the PC in the same time frame.WARxSnake

PC has the longest life and is still going strong. Come again?

Longest and strongest for non-gaming apps, but look how much ground and genre's its lost to the consoles.

yeah those console RTS's sure beat their PC counterparts.

consoles will only ever borrow FPS,TPS,RPG and maybe MMO from PC and thats it.

TImes have changed, gaming is open to a larger audience, due to Consoles. That doesn't mean the core PC gamer base isn't there, and lets face it, no Halo fanboy woul last a second ingame with a PC FPS Vet. Most console only gamers would get really confused when dealing with Starcraft and most console RPGers would not find Planescape: Torment very accsesible.

Avatar image for WARxSnake
WARxSnake

2154

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#208 WARxSnake
Member since 2006 • 2154 Posts
[QUOTE="WARxSnake"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"][QUOTE="dgsag"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

Consoles last at least 6 years. The 360 is going to last for 8 years.

PS3_3DO

Like the Xbox? :lol:

The Xbox didn't make any money for MS so that is the reason that stop supporting it. The 360 is a lot different since MS is making money from it and is going to be the new PS2.

read this please

http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/24/xbox-goes-profitable-almost-like-a-grown-up-business/

Yeah I read about that a few days ago on Gamespot news. The 360 is going to last until 2011 for sure and after the new Xbox system is out MS is still going to support the 360.

thats cool and all, but how does that prove that xbox > consoles.

Avatar image for wok7
wok7

2034

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#209 wok7
Member since 2003 • 2034 Posts
[QUOTE="wok7"][QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]

[QUOTE="wok7"]Xbox had a short life yet had more succes than the PC in the same time frame.WARxSnake

PC has the longest life and is still going strong. Come again?

Longest and strongest for non-gaming apps, but look how much ground and genre's its lost to the consoles.

yeah those console RTS's sure beat their PC counterparts.

consoles will only ever borrow FPS,TPS,RPG and maybe MMO from PC and thats it.

No, its proving best for FPS due to 360's awesome controller. Consoles are the best for everything else other than RTS and MMORPG. PC's used to have it all.

Avatar image for PS3_3DO
PS3_3DO

10976

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#210 PS3_3DO
Member since 2006 • 10976 Posts
[QUOTE="wok7"][QUOTE="skrat_01"]

[QUOTE="wok7"]Xbox had a short life yet had more succes than the PC in the same time frame.Bebi_vegeta

Thats why it was a financial distaster for MS right?

Oh so sucessful.

The best game companies take loses so their fans win, and thats so Nice : )

Yeah, red ring of death say's HI!!!!

Alienware PCs only have a 90 day warranty. :lol:

Avatar image for WARxSnake
WARxSnake

2154

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#211 WARxSnake
Member since 2006 • 2154 Posts
[QUOTE="WARxSnake"][QUOTE="wok7"][QUOTE="screamingdoom"][QUOTE="wok7"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="wok7"]My computer was 2 years old yet it could barely chug Crysis at 15fps on low. Maybe If upgraded back then I might been on medium, but LOL upgrading is a fundamental problem and you can't worm your way out of it.wok7

Be grateful you can even play Crysis on last gen hardawre. Find me an xbox that can play gears. Oh thats right you can't. NOW BE GRATEFUL.

Gears is an Xbox360 game :roll:

Um, I think he means the first console, just the Xbox. Basically we all have to upgrade at some point to play the latest games. But you do not have to upgrade your pc as often as people think.

A lot more often than a console but lets leave it at that.

actually, lets not, we spent 2 pages proving that you dont need to upgrade at all through the lifetime of a console if you buy smart, so no, we wont leave it at that.

You don't have to upgrade if you don't want the 'How it was meant to be played' experience, it's in your logo, you know.

last i checked, my geforce 4600Ti had that logo, so whats your point.

and its a slogan btw.

Avatar image for br0kenrabbit
br0kenrabbit

18126

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 10

User Lists: 0

#212 br0kenrabbit
Member since 2004 • 18126 Posts
You wanna know why I like PCs better than consoles? Because I can use my Throttle Quadrant and Rudder pedals: While using the best TRUE Force Feedback stick ever made: And put my head in the game with TrackIR: All while playing in 7.1 Surround Sound on a screen bigger than your HDTV: How much? THOUSANDS.
Avatar image for WARxSnake
WARxSnake

2154

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#213 WARxSnake
Member since 2006 • 2154 Posts
[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="wok7"][QUOTE="skrat_01"]

[QUOTE="wok7"]Xbox had a short life yet had more succes than the PC in the same time frame.PS3_3DO

Thats why it was a financial distaster for MS right?

Oh so sucessful.

The best game companies take loses so their fans win, and thats so Nice : )

Yeah, red ring of death say's HI!!!!

Alienware PCs only have a 90 day warranty. :lol:

again, you have to be somewhat smart when buying PCs, obviously that doesnt apply to some people.

And Alienware PCs dont qualify as smart purchases.

Avatar image for Bebi_vegeta
Bebi_vegeta

13558

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#214 Bebi_vegeta
Member since 2003 • 13558 Posts
[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="wok7"][QUOTE="skrat_01"]

[QUOTE="wok7"]Xbox had a short life yet had more succes than the PC in the same time frame.PS3_3DO

Thats why it was a financial distaster for MS right?

Oh so sucessful.

The best game companies take loses so their fans win, and thats so Nice : )

Yeah, red ring of death say's HI!!!!

Alienware PCs only have a 90 day warranty. :lol:

LOLLL manufacturing parts are lifetime warranty! Good job!

Avatar image for jangojay
jangojay

4044

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#215 jangojay
Member since 2007 • 4044 Posts
[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="wok7"][QUOTE="skrat_01"]

[QUOTE="wok7"]Xbox had a short life yet had more succes than the PC in the same time frame.PS3_3DO

Thats why it was a financial distaster for MS right?

Oh so sucessful.

The best game companies take loses so their fans win, and thats so Nice : )

Yeah, red ring of death say's HI!!!!

Alienware PCs only have a 90 day warranty. :lol:

Alienware pcs are also for you people who know nothing about PC gaming or computer hardware in general.

Avatar image for householdman
householdman

560

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#216 householdman
Member since 2004 • 560 Posts
[QUOTE="WARxSnake"][QUOTE="wok7"][QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]

[QUOTE="wok7"]Xbox had a short life yet had more succes than the PC in the same time frame.wok7

PC has the longest life and is still going strong. Come again?

Longest and strongest for non-gaming apps, but look how much ground and genre's its lost to the consoles.

yeah those console RTS's sure beat their PC counterparts.

consoles will only ever borrow FPS,TPS,RPG and maybe MMO from PC and thats it.

No, its proving best for FPS due to 360's awesome controller. Consoles are the best for everything else other than RTS and MMORPG. PC's used to have it all.

Face it. PC gamers are just better than console gamers. We need more controls because we like to play complicated games that would confuse the lowley consolites.

Avatar image for WARxSnake
WARxSnake

2154

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#217 WARxSnake
Member since 2006 • 2154 Posts
[QUOTE="WARxSnake"][QUOTE="wok7"][QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]

[QUOTE="wok7"]Xbox had a short life yet had more succes than the PC in the same time frame.wok7

PC has the longest life and is still going strong. Come again?

Longest and strongest for non-gaming apps, but look how much ground and genre's its lost to the consoles.

yeah those console RTS's sure beat their PC counterparts.

consoles will only ever borrow FPS,TPS,RPG and maybe MMO from PC and thats it.

No, its proving best for FPS due to 360's awesome controller. Consoles are the best for everything else other than RTS and MMORPG. PC's used to have it all.

again, last i checked, goldeneye on N64 was considered the best FPS of all time, but compared to anything on PC it was trash.

Avatar image for muscleserge
muscleserge

3307

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 3

User Lists: 0

#218 muscleserge
Member since 2005 • 3307 Posts
[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="wok7"][QUOTE="skrat_01"]

[QUOTE="wok7"]Xbox had a short life yet had more succes than the PC in the same time frame.wok7

Thats why it was a financial distaster for MS right?

Oh so sucessful.

The best game companies take loses so their fans win, and thats so Nice : )

Yeah, red ring of death say's HI!!!!

3-year warranty gives his regards as well : )

and the 360 is supposed to last 5 years? BTW my 8800GT has lifetime warrenty, so does my ram, my mobo has 5 year warrenty, and so on.... I have a 360 and I am a little afraid of my investment, where I am very confident about my PC.
Avatar image for skrat_01
skrat_01

33767

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#219 skrat_01
Member since 2007 • 33767 Posts

The two are still persistent in failure.

Wow.

At least this is still a fun read.

Avatar image for PS3_3DO
PS3_3DO

10976

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#220 PS3_3DO
Member since 2006 • 10976 Posts
[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="wok7"][QUOTE="skrat_01"]

[QUOTE="wok7"]Xbox had a short life yet had more succes than the PC in the same time frame.jangojay

Thats why it was a financial distaster for MS right?

Oh so sucessful.

The best game companies take loses so their fans win, and thats so Nice : )

Yeah, red ring of death say's HI!!!!

Alienware PCs only have a 90 day warranty. :lol:

Alienware pcs are also for you people who know nothing about PC gaming or computer hardware in general.

They do look cool though. :)

Avatar image for Cranler
Cranler

8809

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#221 Cranler
Member since 2005 • 8809 Posts
[QUOTE="wok7"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="wok7"]FYF: All 3 consoles are cheaper than a Gaming PC, not mention just one carries more games worth buying as well as more genres, how nice : )Bebi_vegeta

Since you fail PC knowledge... but now... you also failed maths?

If you factor in games, then Consoles are more expensive simply because there's more games to buy.

You have more games... I have more AAA games. Quality over quantity anyday!

Actually the pc has more games being released in the next 2 weeks than the 360 in the next month. Scroll down to see upcoming releases. http://www.gamefaqs.com/computer/doswin/http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/xbox360/

Avatar image for WARxSnake
WARxSnake

2154

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#222 WARxSnake
Member since 2006 • 2154 Posts

oh yeah and to wok, i think you were asking why 360 has better framerates (than ps3, not pc) usually:

thats because most games right now (especially UE3 powered games) require more ram than processing power. RAM to store static mesh, material, AI, physics, sound, navmesh, and so on.

The ram on the xbox is free, as in, its the same ram that will work to store static meshes and textures in the same pool, whereas PS3's videoram is split into storing geometry, and another split for storing textures. The rest goes to system memory.

So the PS3 is unable to allocate unused video memory from another pool to balance out for more static meshes, or more textures. If you have too much of one thing (such as textures) you will get a bust in the mem pool dedicated for textures, and the game will start lagging and crash once there is no free memory available to stream data. Thus devs have to optimize for the ps3 to avoid crashes.

If however, devs decide to have the same game with the same assets on both consoles, the xbox version will have less trouble than the ps3 version.

the other option is to again, optimize the ps3 version, which is the case with Turok where you have missing static meshes, missing vegetation, trees, specular maps and lightmaps, etc.

Avatar image for jangojay
jangojay

4044

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#223 jangojay
Member since 2007 • 4044 Posts

oh yeah and to wok, i think you were asking why 360 has better framerates (than ps3, not pc) usually:

thats because most games right now (especially UE3 powered games) require more ram than processing power. RAM to store static mesh, material, AI, physics, sound, navmesh, and so on.

The ram on the xbox is free, as in, its the same ram that will work to store static meshes and textures in the same pool, whereas PS3's videoram is split into storing geometry, and another split for storing textures. The rest goes to system memory.

So the PS3 is unable to allocate unused video memory from another pool to balance out for more static meshes, or more textures. If you have too much of one thing (such as textures) you will get a bust in the mem pool dedicated for textures, and the game will start lagging and crash once there is no free memory available to stream data. Thus devs have to optimize for the ps3 to avoid crashes.

If however, devs decide to have the same game with the same assets on both consoles, the xbox version will have less trouble than the ps3 version.

the other option is to again, optimize the ps3 version, which is the case with Turok where you have missing static meshes, missing vegetation, trees, specular maps and lightmaps, etc.

WARxSnake

That is too much for wok7's brain. Don't even try.

Avatar image for Arnalion
Arnalion

3316

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#224 Arnalion
Member since 2006 • 3316 Posts
[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

I stopped reading at 7600 GT ... if you actually educated yourself on what you was buying, saved up that difference for a 7800+ at the time, it would of lasted you ALOT longer and you would of saved money, nobody to blame but your consumer ignorance.

lowe0

Or you could just save yourself the trouble and buy a console. PC fans like to point out what a great machine you can build with some research (and I won't argue that), but really, is it worth it when you can just buy a $350 box that does a great job and be done with it?

IMO is it worth it since you use a PC for more than gaming. This generation's consoles are also lagging behind preatty far graphics wise compared to the PC. By todays standards can the 360/PS3 be compared to a mid-end PC.

You can get a high-end PC for about $1000
Ex: Q6600, 4GB RAM, 8800GT/GTS, 500GB HDD etc...

Avatar image for skrat_01
skrat_01

33767

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#225 skrat_01
Member since 2007 • 33767 Posts

ore than gaming. This generation's consoles are also lagging behind preatty far graphics wise compared to the PC. By todays standards can the 360/PS3 be compared to a mid-end PC.

Arnalion

Not even.

I'd say low end looking at the cheap prices of Quad Cores, and the astronomical performance and mid range price of the 8800GT

This gen has been a real treat for PC gaming and hardware

Avatar image for Arnalion
Arnalion

3316

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#226 Arnalion
Member since 2006 • 3316 Posts
[QUOTE="Arnalion"]

ore than gaming. This generation's consoles are also lagging behind preatty far graphics wise compared to the PC. By todays standards can the 360/PS3 be compared to a mid-end PC.

skrat_01

Not even.

I'd say low end looking at the cheap prices of Quad Cores, and the astronomical performance and price of the 8800GT

Yeah I couldn't really decide which category to put it in. But I think between low-end and mid-end would be more appropriate.

Avatar image for WARxSnake
WARxSnake

2154

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#227 WARxSnake
Member since 2006 • 2154 Posts
[QUOTE="Arnalion"]

ore than gaming. This generation's consoles are also lagging behind preatty far graphics wise compared to the PC. By todays standards can the 360/PS3 be compared to a mid-end PC.

skrat_01

Not even.

I'd say low end looking at the cheap prices of Quad Cores, and the astronomical performance and mid range price of the 8800GT

yeah and a mid range Penryn 2.66GHz quad core can be overclocked to 4GHz quad core, costs 300$.

Avatar image for johnny27
johnny27

4400

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 5

User Lists: 0

#228 johnny27
Member since 2006 • 4400 Posts

Consoles also have a wider variety of games that are not availible for the PC.

Let me name a few current and up-coming titles/series.

Metal Gear Solid 4, GTA IV, Halo 3, Killzone 2, Drakes Uncharted, SKATE, Tony Hawk series, Burnout series, Gran Turismo series, Mario series, Zelda series, God of War series, Resident Evil series, Silent Hill series, Jak series, Rachet and Clank series, Devil May Cry series, Final Fantasy series, Soul Calibur series, Tekken series, Super Smash bros series. I can go on and on.

Oh yeah. Crysis is on its way to the PS3 and Far Cry 2 is coming to both the 360 and PS3. Army of Two is also coming to consoles.

nVidiaGaMer

and to have that u need buy 3 consoles and the pc will still has more exclusives and u say crysis and far cry are coming to consoles why the hell would any one want to play a fps on a console? i mean if worse controls and graphics are apealing to u then be my guest.

oh and by the way dm4 and GTA IV are both coming pc.

Avatar image for nVidiaGaMer
nVidiaGaMer

7793

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 4

User Lists: 0

#229 nVidiaGaMer
Member since 2006 • 7793 Posts
[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

Consoles last at least 6 years. The 360 is going to last for 8 years.

DragonfireXZ95

Actually, they last for 5. And the 360 is projected to last till 2011. You're fooling yourself if you believe that it will last until 2014.

The PS2 lasted 7 years.

Avatar image for Vandalvideo
Vandalvideo

39655

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 16

User Lists: 0

#230 Vandalvideo
Member since 2003 • 39655 Posts
[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

Consoles last at least 6 years. The 360 is going to last for 8 years.

nVidiaGaMer

Actually, they last for 5. And the 360 is projected to last till 2011. You're fooling yourself if you believe that it will last until 2014.

The PS2 lasted 7 years.

The PS2 was a freak of nature with a huge install base. The only console that will last that long, or has the potential to this generation, is the Wii.
Avatar image for jangojay
jangojay

4044

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#231 jangojay
Member since 2007 • 4044 Posts
[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

Consoles last at least 6 years. The 360 is going to last for 8 years.

nVidiaGaMer

Actually, they last for 5. And the 360 is projected to last till 2011. You're fooling yourself if you believe that it will last until 2014.

The PS2 lasted 7 years.

And the other two? . . . .

Avatar image for DragonfireXZ95
DragonfireXZ95

26716

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#232 DragonfireXZ95
Member since 2005 • 26716 Posts
[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

Consoles last at least 6 years. The 360 is going to last for 8 years.

nVidiaGaMer

Actually, they last for 5. And the 360 is projected to last till 2011. You're fooling yourself if you believe that it will last until 2014.

The PS2 lasted 7 years.

The Ps2 was introduced in 2001, correct? And the PS3 was made in 2007. That's 6 years by my count.

Avatar image for WARxSnake
WARxSnake

2154

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#233 WARxSnake
Member since 2006 • 2154 Posts
from what ive seen with devkit xbox360s (and ps3s) and their performance, i think you're going to be a sad panda if you're stuck with that trash till 2014 lol.
Avatar image for householdman
householdman

560

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#234 householdman
Member since 2004 • 560 Posts
[QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"][QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

Consoles last at least 6 years. The 360 is going to last for 8 years.

DragonfireXZ95

Actually, they last for 5. And the 360 is projected to last till 2011. You're fooling yourself if you believe that it will last until 2014.

The PS2 lasted 7 years.

The Ps2 was introduced in 2001, correct? And the PS3 was made in 2007. That's 6 years by my count.

ps2 was released in 2000 in Japand and the PS3 was released in 2006 :P So yeah 6 years.

Avatar image for householdman
householdman

560

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#235 householdman
Member since 2004 • 560 Posts
[QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"][QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

Consoles last at least 6 years. The 360 is going to last for 8 years.

DragonfireXZ95

Actually, they last for 5. And the 360 is projected to last till 2011. You're fooling yourself if you believe that it will last until 2014.

The PS2 lasted 7 years.

The Ps2 was introduced in 2001, correct? And the PS3 was made in 2007. That's 6 years by my count.

ps2 was released in 2000 in Japand and the PS3 was released in 2006 :P So yeah 6 years.

Avatar image for Rougehunter
Rougehunter

5873

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#236 Rougehunter
Member since 2004 • 5873 Posts
[QUOTE="WARxSnake"][QUOTE="wok7"][QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]

[QUOTE="wok7"]Xbox had a short life yet had more succes than the PC in the same time frame.wok7

PC has the longest life and is still going strong. Come again?

Longest and strongest for non-gaming apps, but look how much ground and genre's its lost to the consoles.

yeah those console RTS's sure beat their PC counterparts.

consoles will only ever borrow FPS,TPS,RPG and maybe MMO from PC and thats it.

No, its proving best for FPS due to 360's awesome controller. Consoles are the best for everything else other than RTS and MMORPG. PC's used to have it all.

hmmm, I'd like to see you play UT 2k4 and get a head shot with the 360 controller;)
Avatar image for DragonfireXZ95
DragonfireXZ95

26716

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#237 DragonfireXZ95
Member since 2005 • 26716 Posts
[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"][QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

Consoles last at least 6 years. The 360 is going to last for 8 years.

householdman

Actually, they last for 5. And the 360 is projected to last till 2011. You're fooling yourself if you believe that it will last until 2014.

The PS2 lasted 7 years.

The Ps2 was introduced in 2001, correct? And the PS3 was made in 2007. That's 6 years by my count.

ps2 was released in 2000 in Japand and the PS3 was released in 2006 :P So yeah 6 years.

Oh, I was speaking of USA, but i wasn't exactly sure of my figures. But it's still 6 years. lol

Avatar image for mistervengeance
mistervengeance

6769

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 3

User Lists: 0

#238 mistervengeance
Member since 2006 • 6769 Posts

umm.... wrong.

if you buy smart, 1 high end card at around the beginning of every generation(this gen 8800GTX)

you would be just fine playing most pc games on high for 5 years or so.

Avatar image for mistervengeance
mistervengeance

6769

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 3

User Lists: 0

#239 mistervengeance
Member since 2006 • 6769 Posts
[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"][QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

Consoles last at least 6 years. The 360 is going to last for 8 years.

householdman

Actually, they last for 5. And the 360 is projected to last till 2011. You're fooling yourself if you believe that it will last until 2014.

The PS2 lasted 7 years.

The Ps2 was introduced in 2001, correct? And the PS3 was made in 2007. That's 6 years by my count.

ps2 was released in 2000 in Japand and the PS3 was released in 2006 :P So yeah 6 years.

wrong.

it's still being supported by sony, the ps2 is still getting quality titles such as rock band, this year so far.

the ps2 will probably not see any fantastic first/second party games THIS YEAR, but at least sony is letting third party devs still work with ps2 rather than forcing them to work with 360, like m$ does.

Avatar image for nVidiaGaMer
nVidiaGaMer

7793

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 4

User Lists: 0

#240 nVidiaGaMer
Member since 2006 • 7793 Posts
[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"][QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

Consoles last at least 6 years. The 360 is going to last for 8 years.

householdman

Actually, they last for 5. And the 360 is projected to last till 2011. You're fooling yourself if you believe that it will last until 2014.

The PS2 lasted 7 years.

The Ps2 was introduced in 2001, correct? And the PS3 was made in 2007. That's 6 years by my count.

ps2 was released in 2000 in Japand and the PS3 was released in 2006 :P So yeah 6 years.

Just because the PS3 came out didn't mean the PS2 died. Great PS2 games came out in 2007. Like God of War II.

Avatar image for nVidiaGaMer
nVidiaGaMer

7793

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 4

User Lists: 0

#241 nVidiaGaMer
Member since 2006 • 7793 Posts

umm.... wrong.

if you buy smart, 1 high end card at around the beginning of every generation(this gen 8800GTX)

you would be just fine playing most pc games on high for 5 years or so.

mistervengeance

For 5 years? No Way. The 6800Ultra came out in 2004. Can it play Crysis on high 3 years after its release. NO. The 7800GTX came out in 2005. Can it play Crysis on high. Yes but with low frames. So the 8800GTX will most likely run games 5 years from now. But not on high settings.

Avatar image for jangojay
jangojay

4044

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#242 jangojay
Member since 2007 • 4044 Posts
[QUOTE="householdman"][QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"][QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

Consoles last at least 6 years. The 360 is going to last for 8 years.

mistervengeance

Actually, they last for 5. And the 360 is projected to last till 2011. You're fooling yourself if you believe that it will last until 2014.

The PS2 lasted 7 years.

The Ps2 was introduced in 2001, correct? And the PS3 was made in 2007. That's 6 years by my count.

ps2 was released in 2000 in Japand and the PS3 was released in 2006 :P So yeah 6 years.

wrong.

it's still being supported by sony, the ps2 is still getting quality titles such as rock band, this year so far.

the ps2 will probably not see any fantastic first/second party games THIS YEAR, but at least sony is letting third party devs still work with ps2 rather than forcing them to work with 360, like m$ does.

Only reason they are doing that is because of the massive install base the PS2 had. Many many more people own ps2s than 3s so why stop supporting it? See how there are more x360 and xbox owners? MS doesn't give a crap about the original now. If the ps3 was more successful the ps2 would be in the same boat.

Avatar image for Vandalvideo
Vandalvideo

39655

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 16

User Lists: 0

#243 Vandalvideo
Member since 2003 • 39655 Posts
[QUOTE="mistervengeance"]

umm.... wrong.

if you buy smart, 1 high end card at around the beginning of every generation(this gen 8800GTX)

you would be just fine playing most pc games on high for 5 years or so.

nVidiaGaMer

For 5 years? No Way. The 6800Ultra came out in 2004. Can it play Crysis on high 3 years after its release. NO. The 7800GTX came out in 2005. Can it play Crysis on high. Yes but with low frames. So the 8800GTX will most likely run games 5 years from now. But not on high settings.

Too bad high isn't even required. Besides, you're expecting the most technologically advanced game out to run on high on last generation hardware? Its called a hardware EPOCH FFS. Find me an xbox that can run gears. Oh thats right, you can't, now shush,.
Avatar image for householdman
householdman

560

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#244 householdman
Member since 2004 • 560 Posts

wrong.

it's still being supported by sony, the ps2 is still getting quality titles such as rock band, this year so far.

the ps2 will probably not see any fantastic first/second party games THIS YEAR, but at least sony is letting third party devs still work with ps2 rather than forcing them to work with 360, like m$ does.

mistervengeance

Oh, I'm wrong am I. So the PS2 wasn't released in 2000 in Japan and the PS3 wasn't released on November 11th 2006 in Japan? O well, in that case.

READ BEFORE YOU POST.

Avatar image for jangojay
jangojay

4044

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#246 jangojay
Member since 2007 • 4044 Posts
[QUOTE="mistervengeance"]

umm.... wrong.

if you buy smart, 1 high end card at around the beginning of every generation(this gen 8800GTX)

you would be just fine playing most pc games on high for 5 years or so.

nVidiaGaMer

For 5 years? No Way. The 6800Ultra came out in 2004. Can it play Crysis on high 3 years after its release. NO. The 7800GTX came out in 2005. Can it play Crysis on high. Yes but with low frames. So the 8800GTX will most likely run games 5 years from now. But not on high settings.

High settings PC wise, but it would still be a huge leap over consoles which won't eb able to play the game at all(the 8800). Also.. the 6800Ultra still plays Cod 4 fine. Obviously it won't be on the highest.

Avatar image for nVidiaGaMer
nVidiaGaMer

7793

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 4

User Lists: 0

#247 nVidiaGaMer
Member since 2006 • 7793 Posts
[QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"][QUOTE="mistervengeance"]

umm.... wrong.

if you buy smart, 1 high end card at around the beginning of every generation(this gen 8800GTX)

you would be just fine playing most pc games on high for 5 years or so.

jangojay

For 5 years? No Way. The 6800Ultra came out in 2004. Can it play Crysis on high 3 years after its release. NO. The 7800GTX came out in 2005. Can it play Crysis on high. Yes but with low frames. So the 8800GTX will most likely run games 5 years from now. But not on high settings.

High settings PC wise, but it would still be a huge leap over consoles which won't eb able to play the game at all(the 8800). Also.. the 6800Ultra still plays Cod 4 fine. Obviously it won't be on the highest.

My 7600GT Superclocked is basically a 6800 Ultra performance wise and it struggles with COD4 even on 1024x768.

Avatar image for jangojay
jangojay

4044

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#248 jangojay
Member since 2007 • 4044 Posts
[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"][QUOTE="mistervengeance"]

umm.... wrong.

if you buy smart, 1 high end card at around the beginning of every generation(this gen 8800GTX)

you would be just fine playing most pc games on high for 5 years or so.

nVidiaGaMer

For 5 years? No Way. The 6800Ultra came out in 2004. Can it play Crysis on high 3 years after its release. NO. The 7800GTX came out in 2005. Can it play Crysis on high. Yes but with low frames. So the 8800GTX will most likely run games 5 years from now. But not on high settings.

Too bad high isn't even required. Besides, you're expecting the most technologically advanced game out to run on high on last generation hardware? Its called a hardware EPOCH FFS. Find me an xbox that can run gears. Oh thats right, you can't, now shush,.

Um you have no life. 20,000+ posts. Anyone with that many posts; daily life 365 days a year 24/7 revolves around Sleeping, then Waking up, followed by eating, and playing games then it continues over and over.

He is a member since august 2003

hey lets do the math. Just a little under 5 years? Personal attacks only make your arguement weaker. And how does 20k posts mean all of those things? Stereotyping is fun.

But hey you have no life because you are on a video game forum arguing why consoles are better than pcs.

Avatar image for jangojay
jangojay

4044

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#249 jangojay
Member since 2007 • 4044 Posts
[QUOTE="jangojay"][QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"][QUOTE="mistervengeance"]

umm.... wrong.

if you buy smart, 1 high end card at around the beginning of every generation(this gen 8800GTX)

you would be just fine playing most pc games on high for 5 years or so.

nVidiaGaMer

For 5 years? No Way. The 6800Ultra came out in 2004. Can it play Crysis on high 3 years after its release. NO. The 7800GTX came out in 2005. Can it play Crysis on high. Yes but with low frames. So the 8800GTX will most likely run games 5 years from now. But not on high settings.

High settings PC wise, but it would still be a huge leap over consoles which won't eb able to play the game at all(the 8800). Also.. the 6800Ultra still plays Cod 4 fine. Obviously it won't be on the highest.

My 7600GT Superclocked is basically a 6800 Ultra performance wise and it struggles with COD4 even on 1024x768.

Because the rest of your PC is trash and not up to par with it? A video card is only one aspect when it comes to playing games on a pc.

Avatar image for LTomlinson21
LTomlinson21

24423

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 14

User Lists: 0

#250 LTomlinson21
Member since 2004 • 24423 Posts
[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"][QUOTE="mistervengeance"]

umm.... wrong.

if you buy smart, 1 high end card at around the beginning of every generation(this gen 8800GTX)

you would be just fine playing most pc games on high for 5 years or so.

nVidiaGaMer

For 5 years? No Way. The 6800Ultra came out in 2004. Can it play Crysis on high 3 years after its release. NO. The 7800GTX came out in 2005. Can it play Crysis on high. Yes but with low frames. So the 8800GTX will most likely run games 5 years from now. But not on high settings.

Too bad high isn't even required. Besides, you're expecting the most technologically advanced game out to run on high on last generation hardware? Its called a hardware EPOCH FFS. Find me an xbox that can run gears. Oh thats right, you can't, now shush,.

Um you have no life. 20,000+ posts. Anyone with that many posts; daily life 365 days a year 24/7 revolves around Sleeping, then Waking up, followed by eating, and playing games then it continues over and over.

No! You had a chance to argue back. Don't stoop down. Come on!