Consoles > PC

And how will it be different from what I said? You aren't gonna be in all places at once so streaming the parts of the level as you come to them and back isn't gonna matter.wok7

[QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]LMAO! Spore for Game of The Year?! Hey everybody you can stick a cro*** on a deku tree! LOL! Thats seriously going to be worst Game Award for 2008.cobrax25

Its predecesor got GOTY...which is far more than can be said for MGS4.

Wow. MGS4 will be the best game ever made. MGS 1 is argubly one of the best games ever made. Or FFVII or Super Mario 64. And all those games are for consoles.

and streaming a level isnt enough to get it to run on a console, you have to take into account mem pools regarding navmeshes that are loaded, textures, shaders and how many instructions each shader has, mipmaps on all your textures, streamable static meshes, streamable textures, lightmaps, number of dynamic lights, dynamic actors, procedural AI with 8 to 10 AI on screen, adaptive portals and zone culling, object culling and visibility (the ps3 and xbox handle this very differently and badly), object priority, physics objects (that have to be dynamically lit since they can be moved), in Crysis' case, real world physics and weather with wind and advanced envrionment physics, per-mesh portals and culling, DOF and MB...

All this costs a whole lot in the end and just because you learnt a new game development word today "streaming", doesnt make Crysis possible on consoles.

WARxSnake

And all that Jazz will be on the console version, just at a lower resolution. As if res even matters, look at how awesome Halo 3 and SMG are.

[QUOTE="cobrax25"]

[QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]LMAO! Spore for Game of The Year?! Hey everybody you can stick a cro*** on a deku tree! LOL! Thats seriously going to be worst Game Award for 2008.nVidiaGaMer

Its predecesor got GOTY...which is far more than can be said for MGS4.

Wow. MGS4 will be the best game ever made. MGS 1 is argubly one of the best games ever made. Or FFVII or Super Mario 64. And all those games are for consoles.

[QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]LMAO! Spore for Game of The Year?! Hey everybody you can stick a cro*** on a deku tree! LOL! Thats seriously going to be worst Game Award for 2008.skrat_01

And how the Sims went to sell well over 20 million, and WoW over 10 million - rising.

Hmm.....

LMAO. People fall for stupid things. WOW ruined so many peoples lives. It was even on my local news on ABC a year or two ago. WOW ruined my friends life. I know smart gamers don't play WOW. If you want to live with your parents go ahead and give up your life to WOW.

Why do the same people who fail, keep trying only fail repeatedly.

Its a bit sad isnt it.

skrat_01

It really is. It makes one wonder what they're like in real life.

[QUOTE="WARxSnake"]

and streaming a level isnt enough to get it to run on a console, you have to take into account mem pools regarding navmeshes that are loaded, textures, shaders and how many instructions each shader has, mipmaps on all your textures, streamable static meshes, streamable textures, lightmaps, number of dynamic lights, dynamic actors, procedural AI with 8 to 10 AI on screen, adaptive portals and zone culling, object culling and visibility (the ps3 and xbox handle this very differently and badly), object priority, physics objects (that have to be dynamically lit since they can be moved), in Crysis' case, real world physics and weather with wind and advanced envrionment physics, per-mesh portals and culling, DOF and MB...

All this costs a whole lot in the end and just because you learnt a new game development word today "streaming", doesnt make Crysis possible on consoles.

wok7

And all that Jazz will be on the console version, just at a lower resolution. As if res even matters, look at how awesome Halo 3 was.

If there is a console version and its not a spin-off like Far Cry:Instincts... :lol:

[QUOTE="cobrax25"]

[QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]LMAO! Spore for Game of The Year?! Hey everybody you can stick a cro*** on a deku tree! LOL! Thats seriously going to be worst Game Award for 2008.nVidiaGaMer

Its predecesor got GOTY...which is far more than can be said for MGS4.

Wow. MGS4 will be the best game ever made. MGS 1 is argubly one of the best games ever made. Or FFVII or Super Mario 64. And all those games are for consoles.

those are the games you consider to be the best ever made...ask anybody else and they will give you a whole different story....

[QUOTE="cobrax25"]

[QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]LMAO! Spore for Game of The Year?! Hey everybody you can stick a cro*** on a deku tree! LOL! Thats seriously going to be worst Game Award for 2008.nVidiaGaMer

Ive played them all except MGS4 lol...

FFVII (PC version or if you dont like PC version,just play PSone(call me emulator)

SM64 (same as above,Emulator)

And ALL Psone-many Ps2 - ALL N64 - many GC games can be played on PCs nowdays :P huhu. All you have to know is where and how:P So mention other games than previous generations :p

Its predecesor got GOTY...which is far more than can be said for MGS4.

Wow. MGS4 will be the best game ever made. MGS 1 is argubly one of the best games ever made. Or FFVII or Super Mario 64. And all those games are for consoles.

[QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"][QUOTE="cobrax25"]

[QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]LMAO! Spore for Game of The Year?! Hey everybody you can stick a cro*** on a deku tree! LOL! Thats seriously going to be worst Game Award for 2008.Vandalvideo

Its predecesor got GOTY...which is far more than can be said for MGS4.

Wow. MGS4 will be the best game ever made. MGS 1 is argubly one of the best games ever made. Or FFVII or Super Mario 64. And all those games are for consoles.

Your saying that even befor ethe game is released. I know people who've played it and were completely blown away. It will be GOTY. Runner up will probably be GTAIV due to its popularity.

[QUOTE="cobrax25"]

[QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]LMAO! Spore for Game of The Year?! Hey everybody you can stick a cro*** on a deku tree! LOL! Thats seriously going to be worst Game Award for 2008.nVidiaGaMer

Its predecesor got GOTY...which is far more than can be said for MGS4.

Wow. MGS4 will be the best game ever made. MGS 1 is argubly one of the best games ever made. Or FFVII or Super Mario 64. And all those games are for consoles.

yet PC has more AAA games.

[QUOTE="skrat_01"]

[QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]LMAO! Spore for Game of The Year?! Hey everybody you can stick a cro*** on a deku tree! LOL! Thats seriously going to be worst Game Award for 2008.nVidiaGaMer

And how the Sims went to sell well over 20 million, and WoW over 10 million - rising.

Hmm.....

LMAO. People fall for stupid things. WOW ruined so many peoples lives. It was even on my local news on ABC a year or two ago. WOW ruined my friends life. I know smart gamers don't play WOW. If you want to live with your parents go ahead and give up your life to WOW.

You STOOD THERE and DID NOTHING TO STOP HIM!

:shock:

Get his man a job at Fox news stat! Im sure they also want your running commentary on Mass Effects sex scene, and how it is also exposing CHILDREN to such a hideous thing.

Your saying that even befor ethe game is released. I know people who've played it and were completely blown away. It will be GOTY. Runner up will probably be GTAIV due to its popularity.nVidiaGaMer

[QUOTE="skrat_01"]

[QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]LMAO! Spore for Game of The Year?! Hey everybody you can stick a cro*** on a deku tree! LOL! Thats seriously going to be worst Game Award for 2008.nVidiaGaMer

And how the Sims went to sell well over 20 million, and WoW over 10 million - rising.

Hmm.....

LMAO. People fall for stupid things. WOW ruined so many peoples lives. It was even on my local news on ABC a year or two ago. WOW ruined my friends life. I know smart gamers don't play WOW. If you want to live with your parents go ahead and give up your life to WOW.

[QUOTE="WARxSnake"]

and streaming a level isnt enough to get it to run on a console, you have to take into account mem pools regarding navmeshes that are loaded, textures, shaders and how many instructions each shader has, mipmaps on all your textures, streamable static meshes, streamable textures, lightmaps, number of dynamic lights, dynamic actors, procedural AI with 8 to 10 AI on screen, adaptive portals and zone culling, object culling and visibility (the ps3 and xbox handle this very differently and badly), object priority, physics objects (that have to be dynamically lit since they can be moved), in Crysis' case, real world physics and weather with wind and advanced envrionment physics, per-mesh portals and culling, DOF and MB...

All this costs a whole lot in the end and just because you learnt a new game development word today "streaming", doesnt make Crysis possible on consoles.

wok7

And all that Jazz will be on the console version, just at a lower resolution. As if res even matters, look at how awesome Halo 3 and SMG are.

Have you seen Crysis?!?!?!? LOL

Edit : have you played Crysis?

There's no denying that THE best games are console games. Our the Nice right here.wok7

[QUOTE="WARxSnake"]

and streaming a level isnt enough to get it to run on a console, you have to take into account mem pools regarding navmeshes that are loaded, textures, shaders and how many instructions each shader has, mipmaps on all your textures, streamable static meshes, streamable textures, lightmaps, number of dynamic lights, dynamic actors, procedural AI with 8 to 10 AI on screen, adaptive portals and zone culling, object culling and visibility (the ps3 and xbox handle this very differently and badly), object priority, physics objects (that have to be dynamically lit since they can be moved), in Crysis' case, real world physics and weather with wind and advanced envrionment physics, per-mesh portals and culling, DOF and MB...

All this costs a whole lot in the end and just because you learnt a new game development word today "streaming", doesnt make Crysis possible on consoles.

wok7

And all that Jazz will be on the console version, just at a lower resolution. As if res even matters, look at how awesome Halo 3 and SMG are.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="wok7"]Consoles have PC's pwned. But of course the only true PC Gamers are those hardcore types who don't mind upgrading everytime the newer hardware comes out.wok7

Thats cause you;re a casual gamer : /

so when i start having to play games at medium instead of high i'm going to become a casual gamer?...but from your sig it appears you have two wiis...making you H4RD C0R3 right?

[QUOTE="wok7"][QUOTE="WARxSnake"]

and streaming a level isnt enough to get it to run on a console, you have to take into account mem pools regarding navmeshes that are loaded, textures, shaders and how many instructions each shader has, mipmaps on all your textures, streamable static meshes, streamable textures, lightmaps, number of dynamic lights, dynamic actors, procedural AI with 8 to 10 AI on screen, adaptive portals and zone culling, object culling and visibility (the ps3 and xbox handle this very differently and badly), object priority, physics objects (that have to be dynamically lit since they can be moved), in Crysis' case, real world physics and weather with wind and advanced envrionment physics, per-mesh portals and culling, DOF and MB...

All this costs a whole lot in the end and just because you learnt a new game development word today "streaming", doesnt make Crysis possible on consoles.

dgsag

And all that Jazz will be on the console version, just at a lower resolution. As if res even matters, look at how awesome Halo 3 was.

If there is a console version and its not a spin-off like Far Cry:Instincts... :lol:

You mean something like this? :P

[QUOTE="wok7"][QUOTE="WARxSnake"]

and streaming a level isnt enough to get it to run on a console, you have to take into account mem pools regarding navmeshes that are loaded, textures, shaders and how many instructions each shader has, mipmaps on all your textures, streamable static meshes, streamable textures, lightmaps, number of dynamic lights, dynamic actors, procedural AI with 8 to 10 AI on screen, adaptive portals and zone culling, object culling and visibility (the ps3 and xbox handle this very differently and badly), object priority, physics objects (that have to be dynamically lit since they can be moved), in Crysis' case, real world physics and weather with wind and advanced envrionment physics, per-mesh portals and culling, DOF and MB...

All this costs a whole lot in the end and just because you learnt a new game development word today "streaming", doesnt make Crysis possible on consoles.

Bebi_vegeta

And all that Jazz will be on the console version, just at a lower resolution. As if res even matters, look at how awesome Halo 3 and SMG are.

Have you seen Crysis?!?!?!? LOL

Edit : have you played Crysis?

Yes and yes, standard Crytek game, they've even said that Far Cry 2 will be avialable on the consoles.

Your saying that even befor ethe game is released. I know people who've played it and were completely blown away. It will be GOTY. Runner up will probably be GTAIV due to its popularity.nVidiaGaMer

LMAO! Spore for Game of The Year?! Hey everybody you can stick a cro*** on a deku tree! LOL! Thats seriously going to be worst Game Award for 2008.nVidiaGaMer

...

[QUOTE="WARxSnake"]

and streaming a level isnt enough to get it to run on a console, you have to take into account mem pools regarding navmeshes that are loaded, textures, shaders and how many instructions each shader has, mipmaps on all your textures, streamable static meshes, streamable textures, lightmaps, number of dynamic lights, dynamic actors, procedural AI with 8 to 10 AI on screen, adaptive portals and zone culling, object culling and visibility (the ps3 and xbox handle this very differently and badly), object priority, physics objects (that have to be dynamically lit since they can be moved), in Crysis' case, real world physics and weather with wind and advanced envrionment physics, per-mesh portals and culling, DOF and MB...

All this costs a whole lot in the end and just because you learnt a new game development word today "streaming", doesnt make Crysis possible on consoles.

wok7

And all that Jazz will be on the console version, just at a lower resolution. As if res even matters, look at how awesome Halo 3 and SMG are.

wait...hold on...you are comparing smg and halo3 to cryengine 2 now?

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="wok7"][QUOTE="WARxSnake"]

and streaming a level isnt enough to get it to run on a console, you have to take into account mem pools regarding navmeshes that are loaded, textures, shaders and how many instructions each shader has, mipmaps on all your textures, streamable static meshes, streamable textures, lightmaps, number of dynamic lights, dynamic actors, procedural AI with 8 to 10 AI on screen, adaptive portals and zone culling, object culling and visibility (the ps3 and xbox handle this very differently and badly), object priority, physics objects (that have to be dynamically lit since they can be moved), in Crysis' case, real world physics and weather with wind and advanced envrionment physics, per-mesh portals and culling, DOF and MB...

All this costs a whole lot in the end and just because you learnt a new game development word today "streaming", doesnt make Crysis possible on consoles.

wok7

And all that Jazz will be on the console version, just at a lower resolution. As if res even matters, look at how awesome Halo 3 and SMG are.

Have you seen Crysis?!?!?!? LOL

Edit : have you played Crysis?

Yes and yes, standard Crytek game, they've even said that Far Cry 2 will be avialable on the consoles.

lol, their not even making Farcry 2.

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="wok7"][QUOTE="WARxSnake"]

and streaming a level isnt enough to get it to run on a console, you have to take into account mem pools regarding navmeshes that are loaded, textures, shaders and how many instructions each shader has, mipmaps on all your textures, streamable static meshes, streamable textures, lightmaps, number of dynamic lights, dynamic actors, procedural AI with 8 to 10 AI on screen, adaptive portals and zone culling, object culling and visibility (the ps3 and xbox handle this very differently and badly), object priority, physics objects (that have to be dynamically lit since they can be moved), in Crysis' case, real world physics and weather with wind and advanced envrionment physics, per-mesh portals and culling, DOF and MB...

All this costs a whole lot in the end and just because you learnt a new game development word today "streaming", doesnt make Crysis possible on consoles.

wok7

And all that Jazz will be on the console version, just at a lower resolution. As if res even matters, look at how awesome Halo 3 and SMG are.

Have you seen Crysis?!?!?!? LOL

Edit : have you played Crysis?

Yes and yes, standard Crytek game, they've even said that Far Cry 2 will be avialable on the consoles.

That's strange... ubisoft is making that game ... LOL!!!!!!!

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="wok7"][QUOTE="WARxSnake"]

and streaming a level isnt enough to get it to run on a console, you have to take into account mem pools regarding navmeshes that are loaded, textures, shaders and how many instructions each shader has, mipmaps on all your textures, streamable static meshes, streamable textures, lightmaps, number of dynamic lights, dynamic actors, procedural AI with 8 to 10 AI on screen, adaptive portals and zone culling, object culling and visibility (the ps3 and xbox handle this very differently and badly), object priority, physics objects (that have to be dynamically lit since they can be moved), in Crysis' case, real world physics and weather with wind and advanced envrionment physics, per-mesh portals and culling, DOF and MB...

All this costs a whole lot in the end and just because you learnt a new game development word today "streaming", doesnt make Crysis possible on consoles.

wok7

And all that Jazz will be on the console version, just at a lower resolution. As if res even matters, look at how awesome Halo 3 and SMG are.

Have you seen Crysis?!?!?!? LOL

Edit : have you played Crysis?

Yes and yes, standard Crytek game, they've even said that Far Cry 2 will be avialable on the consoles.

Lol, Crytek has nothing to do with Far Cry 2, thats Ubisoft Mr. Uninformed. Care to share any more fantasies with us?

[QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]Your saying that even befor ethe game is released. I know people who've played it and were completely blown away. It will be GOTY. Runner up will probably be GTAIV due to its popularity.Shadow-Eagle

LMAO! Spore for Game of The Year?! Hey everybody you can stick a cro*** on a deku tree! LOL! Thats seriously going to be worst Game Award for 2008.nVidiaGaMer

...

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="wok7"][QUOTE="WARxSnake"]

and streaming a level isnt enough to get it to run on a console, you have to take into account mem pools regarding navmeshes that are loaded, textures, shaders and how many instructions each shader has, mipmaps on all your textures, streamable static meshes, streamable textures, lightmaps, number of dynamic lights, dynamic actors, procedural AI with 8 to 10 AI on screen, adaptive portals and zone culling, object culling and visibility (the ps3 and xbox handle this very differently and badly), object priority, physics objects (that have to be dynamically lit since they can be moved), in Crysis' case, real world physics and weather with wind and advanced envrionment physics, per-mesh portals and culling, DOF and MB...

All this costs a whole lot in the end and just because you learnt a new game development word today "streaming", doesnt make Crysis possible on consoles.

wok7

And all that Jazz will be on the console version, just at a lower resolution. As if res even matters, look at how awesome Halo 3 and SMG are.

Have you seen Crysis?!?!?!? LOL

Edit : have you played Crysis?

Yes and yes, standard Crytek game, they've even said that Far Cry 2 will be avialable on the consoles.

/thread right there.

go do some research, and till next time.

there are many arguments for either side, but i will add in that you can trade in console games which is nice.

there are many arguments for either side, but i will add in that you can trade in console games which is nice.

paullywog

There are a few bad things about PC gaming and upgrading often is one of them.

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="wok7"][QUOTE="WARxSnake"]

and streaming a level isnt enough to get it to run on a console, you have to take into account mem pools regarding navmeshes that are loaded, textures, shaders and how many instructions each shader has, mipmaps on all your textures, streamable static meshes, streamable textures, lightmaps, number of dynamic lights, dynamic actors, procedural AI with 8 to 10 AI on screen, adaptive portals and zone culling, object culling and visibility (the ps3 and xbox handle this very differently and badly), object priority, physics objects (that have to be dynamically lit since they can be moved), in Crysis' case, real world physics and weather with wind and advanced envrionment physics, per-mesh portals and culling, DOF and MB...

All this costs a whole lot in the end and just because you learnt a new game development word today "streaming", doesnt make Crysis possible on consoles.

wok7

And all that Jazz will be on the console version, just at a lower resolution. As if res even matters, look at how awesome Halo 3 and SMG are.

Have you seen Crysis?!?!?!? LOL

Edit : have you played Crysis?

Yes and yes, standard Crytek game, they've even said that Far Cry 2 will be avialable on the consoles.

There are a few bad things about PC gaming and upgrading often is one of them.

PS3_3DO

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="wok7"]Consoles have PC's pwned. But of course the only true PC Gamers are those hardcore types who don't mind upgrading everytime the newer hardware comes out.wok7

Thats cause you;re a casual gamer : /

There are a few bad things about PC gaming and upgrading often is one of them.

PS3_3DO

Remember, PC graphics are always improving, a 7900 class card won't start outputting garbage graphics one day because of a high demanding game.

And? Its going to look even better than Crysis, but still be on consoles because they won't be payed to keep it exclusive to one platform.wok7

What company would pay for a PC exclusive?

[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

There are a few bad things about PC gaming and upgrading often is one of them.

Vandalvideo

PC games like Crysis say different.

And? Its going to look even better than Crysis, but still be on consoles because they won't be payed to keep it exclusive to one platform.wok7

Boy Wok7, how many times have you self owned yourself so far?

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

There are a few bad things about PC gaming and upgrading often is one of them.

PS3_3DO

PC games like Crysis say different.

He said often. Crysis is not often.. Durr, common sense.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

There are a few bad things about PC gaming and upgrading often is one of them.

PS3_3DO

PC games like Crysis say different.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

There are a few bad things about PC gaming and upgrading often is one of them.

PS3_3DO

PC games like Crysis say different.

I bought my video card overa year ago and Crysis didn't make me upgrade. :|

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

There are a few bad things about PC gaming and upgrading often is one of them.

PS3_3DO

PC games like Crysis say different.

Pc have what they call settings.

There are a few bad things about PC gaming and upgrading often is one of them.

PS3_3DO

what you forget is that pc gamers have the CHOICE to upgrade or not. nothing prevents them on running Crysis with 2 year old hardware on high (instead of very high) and have the game still look and play better than any console game. Also, if you lower Crysis' resolution to 720p, old hardware can easily cope with that resolution.

And any other multiplat AAA PC game can easily run on basic hardware such as cod4 and tf2

[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

There are a few bad things about PC gaming and upgrading often is one of them.

DragonfireXZ95

PC games like Crysis say different.

He said often. Crysis is not often.. Durr, common sense.

Games like Crysis come every few years so yeah I say that is often.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

There are a few bad things about PC gaming and upgrading often is one of them.

PS3_3DO

PC games like Crysis say different.

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

There are a few bad things about PC gaming and upgrading often is one of them.

PS3_3DO

PC games like Crysis say different.

He said often. Crysis is not often.. Durr, common sense.

Games like Crysis come every few years so yeah I say that is often.

crysis didnt make me upgrade.

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

There are a few bad things about PC gaming and upgrading often is one of them.

PS3_3DO

PC games like Crysis say different.

He said often. Crysis is not often.. Durr, common sense.

Games like Crysis come every few years so yeah I say that is often.

How is that often? over 50 games are made a year, and then one that is graphically better than the others comes along every 3 years or so. That is often? You have a new console every 3 - 5 years, I suppose that's often to you too.

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

There are a few bad things about PC gaming and upgrading often is one of them.

PS3_3DO

PC games like Crysis say different.

He said often. Crysis is not often.. Durr, common sense.

Games like Crysis come every few years so yeah I say that is often.