Content Being Cut From Battlefield For Physical Warfare Pack

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#1 deactivated-5d78760d7d740
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I have no problem with "early access" stuff or "golden weapons", or old maps being remade as exclusive pre order content but it really just annoys me when they actually cut content from the game in order to have exclusivity. Flechette ammo, Type-88 LMG, and a Flash Suppressor are all exclusively part of the Physical Warfare map which can be gained by pre ordering Battlefield 3 from certain UK sites.

Why EA? WHY? This isn't Battlefield 3 specifically, I'm talking about games in general too. Why strip down the overall value of the game and only give it to some people as a pre order bonus. These sites are from the UK, so basically there's no way of obtaining the Physical Warfare pack for many, many gamers. We lost a gun, and two weapon attachments for basically nothing. Horray :( And I know, it's always like this :-/ but it shouldn't be actual weapons! They could have at least also made them available to Battlefield Veterans a week after the release of the game!

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#2 Pug-Nasty
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BC2 had so little content this doesn't really surprise me. What's worse is the content BC2 had was lacking in polish, which is ridiculous. I don't think DICE has what it takes to put out a quality product, at least not under EA.

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#3 enterawesome
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Why the hell is this a practice in video games? So damn annoying. Bad Company 2 did this as well, it's annoying.
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BC2 had so little content this doesn't really surprise me. What's worse is the content BC2 had was lacking in polish, which is ridiculous. I don't think DICE has what it takes to put out a quality product, at least not under EA.

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Actually all their BF games, excluding the first console game on 360, are quality. BF3 will be no different. This is how gaming is now people. You can either get over it and continue to game, or quit.
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#5 enterawesome
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[QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]

BC2 had so little content this doesn't really surprise me. What's worse is the content BC2 had was lacking in polish, which is ridiculous. I don't think DICE has what it takes to put out a quality product, at least not under EA.

millerlight89
Actually all their BF games, excluding the first console game on 360, are quality. BF3 will be no different. This is how gaming is now people. You can either get over it and continue to game, or quit.

No, no, no, my friend, this is not how gaming is. EA is among the few who relish in cutting back content to ensure a player's purchase. Plenty of game publishers don't, in fact. Even CoD -the vermin so many think it is- doesn't even do this.
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#6 Pug-Nasty
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[QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]

BC2 had so little content this doesn't really surprise me. What's worse is the content BC2 had was lacking in polish, which is ridiculous. I don't think DICE has what it takes to put out a quality product, at least not under EA.

millerlight89

Actually all their BF games, excluding the first console game on 360, are quality. BF3 will be no different. This is how gaming is now people. You can either get over it and continue to game, or quit.

We might have different definitions of quality. I find maps that have glitchy geometry to be poor quality, but you may not. I find poor netcode to be an indicator of bad quality as well.

BC2, on consoles at least, had some serious lag issues for quite some time. They "fixed" it, but it still isn't as smooth as it should be.

On PC, it may be better, but I don't know 'cause I'm not buying another one based off my experience with BC2. Hopefully, there's a demo of the SP and MP for BF3 so I can check it out.

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#7 millerlight89
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]

BC2 had so little content this doesn't really surprise me. What's worse is the content BC2 had was lacking in polish, which is ridiculous. I don't think DICE has what it takes to put out a quality product, at least not under EA.

enterawesome
Actually all their BF games, excluding the first console game on 360, are quality. BF3 will be no different. This is how gaming is now people. You can either get over it and continue to game, or quit.

No, no, no, my friend, this is not how gaming is. EA is among the few who relish in cutting back content to ensure a player's purchase. Plenty of game publishers don't, in fact. Even CoD -the vermin so many think it is- doesn't even do this.

Many games do this, so yes it actually is. You get all these preorder bonuses from buying from certain places.
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#8 Remmib
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This practice is appalling and it is hurting gaming.

There is a thread on this over at Reddit and it is top of the subforum (with 540,000 viewers).

I contacted EA Support telling them about the outrage this is causing in their loyal community and how it will negatively impact their sales to market this way. The woman I spoke to is forwarding the link and my message to their senior management and I should be hearing from them in the next couple days.

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BC2, on consoles at least, had some serious lag issues for quite some time. Pug-Nasty
Oh ok, there is the problem. Should've known.
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Well it seems obvious that every developer/publisher just wants to make as much money as possible. Shouldn't be suprised.

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#11 Remmib
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Well it seems obvious that every developer/publisher just wants to make as much money as possible. Shouldn't be suprised.

commonfate

Too bad they are too stupid to realize that this tactic actually makes them lose sales.

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Well it's EA. They shipped DA2 with something like 20 dlc first day.

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[QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]BC2, on consoles at least, had some serious lag issues for quite some time. millerlight89
Oh ok, there is the problem. Should've known.

So, I should judge a company by something I haven't experienced. In the end, their worst versions are as representitive of their overall focus on quality as their best.

EA rushes their devs, and their games show this. I know they've improved a lot since the beginning of this gen, but they still aren't very good. I can't really decide who is worse between Activision and EA. I guess EA produces better gamers, but Activision isn't as ridiculous with the online passes and preorder stuff.

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Why the hell is this a practice in video games? So damn annoying. Bad Company 2 did this as well, it's annoying. enterawesome
Because consumers put up with it, companies will nickel and dime consumers as far as they allow them to.
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[QUOTE="commonfate"]

Well it seems obvious that every developer/publisher just wants to make as much money as possible. Shouldn't be suprised.

Remmib

Too bad they are too stupid to realize that this tactic actually makes them lose sales.

I'm not preordering BF3, but I can't speak for all the brosephs jumping ship from COD.

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EA will release the preorder content in a few months time as premium DLC. That's what they did with BC2.

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[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]BC2, on consoles at least, had some serious lag issues for quite some time. Pug-Nasty

Oh ok, there is the problem. Should've known.

So, I should judge a company by something I haven't experienced. In the end, their worst versions are as representitive of their overall focus on quality as their best.

EA rushes their devs, and their games show this. I know they've improved a lot since the beginning of this gen, but they still aren't very good. I can't really decide who is worse between Activision and EA. I guess EA produces better gamers, but Activision isn't as ridiculous with the online passes and preorder stuff.

Online passes don't affect PC gamers, not only that, but there are other factors as to why the PC versions of EA games are always much better.
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This is a shame. I hate store specific DLC pre order bonuses

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[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="enterawesome"][QUOTE="millerlight89"] Actually all their BF games, excluding the first console game on 360, are quality. BF3 will be no different. This is how gaming is now people. You can either get over it and continue to game, or quit.

No, no, no, my friend, this is not how gaming is. EA is among the few who relish in cutting back content to ensure a player's purchase. Plenty of game publishers don't, in fact. Even CoD -the vermin so many think it is- doesn't even do this.

Many games do this, so yes it actually is. You get all these preorder bonuses from buying from certain places.

So a lot of people do it, therefore we should accept it? You know how ridiculous that sounds? First of all, if that was the case, then we'd all be allowing things like genocide and human-trafficking with open arms, because a lot of people do it. That simply isn't how the world works. Second, there's plenty of game publishers that don't do this. How about Activision? Or Nintendo? Square Enix? I don't even mind it when some companies do it and they restrict very minimal things, like a costume for AC multiplayer or a couple pieces of armor in Halo Reach. This is weapons and attachments, things that actually affect gameplay. It's gross, and all it does is discourage me (a consumer) from purchasing their game.
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This is a shame. I hate store specific DLC pre order bonuses

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It's annoying but like I said EA will release it to buy later on.
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]

BC2 had so little content this doesn't really surprise me. What's worse is the content BC2 had was lacking in polish, which is ridiculous. I don't think DICE has what it takes to put out a quality product, at least not under EA.

enterawesome

Actually all their BF games, excluding the first console game on 360, are quality. BF3 will be no different. This is how gaming is now people. You can either get over it and continue to game, or quit.

No, no, no, my friend, this is not how gaming is. EA is among the few who relish in cutting back content to ensure a player's purchase. Plenty of game publishers don't, in fact. Even CoD -the vermin so many think it is- doesn't even do this.

This. Actually if you look at it COD (rehashed though it may be) does far less DLC crap than EA. Yes COD has $15 map packs, but EA has the online pass, gun DLCs, the "free" maps which are already on the disk, etc.

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[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]

BC2 had so little content this doesn't really surprise me. What's worse is the content BC2 had was lacking in polish, which is ridiculous. I don't think DICE has what it takes to put out a quality product, at least not under EA.

Pug-Nasty

Actually all their BF games, excluding the first console game on 360, are quality. BF3 will be no different. This is how gaming is now people. You can either get over it and continue to game, or quit.

...BC2, on consoles at least...

There's your problem ;).

I am confused about this PWpack. Is it available only in the UK? Does everyone else besides UK get it normally but UK has to order from those sites? I just dont get it.

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[QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]

[QUOTE="millerlight89"] Actually all their BF games, excluding the first console game on 360, are quality. BF3 will be no different. This is how gaming is now people. You can either get over it and continue to game, or quit. NaveedLife

...BC2, on consoles at least...

There's your problem ;).

I am confused about this PWpack. Is it available only in the UK? Does everyone else besides UK get it normally but UK has to order from those sites? I just dont get it.

Available only for the UK right now. Devs said 'We'll see' when asked about what the U.S. is getting instead.

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#24 NaveedLife
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[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

[QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]

...BC2, on consoles at least...

Remmib

There's your problem ;).

I am confused about this PWpack. Is it available only in the UK? Does everyone else besides UK get it normally but UK has to order from those sites? I just dont get it.

Available only for the UK right now. Devs said 'We'll see' when asked about what the U.S. is getting instead.

I am buying BF3 day one no matter what...but seriously....WTF lol. This kind of junk is just stupid. PLEASE Nintendo, never do this lol.

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#25 commonfate
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[QUOTE="Remmib"]

[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

There's your problem ;).

I am confused about this PWpack. Is it available only in the UK? Does everyone else besides UK get it normally but UK has to order from those sites? I just dont get it.

NaveedLife

Available only for the UK right now. Devs said 'We'll see' when asked about what the U.S. is getting instead.

I am buying BF3 day one no matter what...but seriously....WTF lol. This kind of junk is just stupid. PLEASE Nintendo, never do this lol.

Nintendo would never do this. They'd be the last ones to do so.

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#26 -RocBoys9489-
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I have a feeling that maybe you just unlock that stuff from the get-go. Everyone else has to earn it themselves.
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If this was any other game I would tell them to buzz off, but this is BF3; I have been a huge fan of the series since 1942 and im not going to let an issue like this stop me from getting the game.

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Its stuff like this which is exacly why Im looking forward to RO2 over BF3.

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This is how devs are trying to recoup income from used game sales people
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#30 Golden_Boy187
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Let the milkage begin!

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#31 GojiMaster
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LOL, and people think that EA is better than Activision. Bad Company 2 had barely any multiplayer content at all included on the main disc. The number of maps, game modes, and co-op play was terrible. This is why I keep saying that I am not that excited for BF3 until I see some more PS3 footage.

BF3 on PC looks great, but since EA is involved in the process my expectations are tempered.

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#32 Golden_Boy187
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MW3 >>>>>>>> BF3 confirmed

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#33 lamprey263
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I'm not so worried as I plan on day one purchasing, but yeah this tactic generally sucks.
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#34 noxboxlive
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Its only 1 gun, and a ammo type. how is that going to lose sales?

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#35 Dr_Snood
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MW3 >>>>>>>> BF3 confirmed

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Sure, but I guess you didn't hear the news about Activision already confirming multiplayer DLC already.. 5 months before the game releases. So they too are holding things back. O and don't forget about their Elite Premium service made just for the "fans", but ofcourse not everything on it is free. Don't forget about the $15 map packs too :D!
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#36 noxboxlive
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Let the milkage begin!

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'looks at your avatar'

how ironic........

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#37 Fightingfan
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I dont pay $60 for pc games so ill wait.
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#38 Upparoom
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While this DLC is an awful idea, let's not start crying or boycotting. We don't need a MW2 scale whinefest over a situation as small as this, especially when we have no idea of the actual functions of these said items(the type-88 could have the exact same stats as another LMG, for example; aka it could be a fancy reskin).

Besides, it's not like first day buyers and veterans haven't already had the advantage in Battlefield games anyway(looking at you BF2 unlocks.)

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I'd prefer if they said something like "because we have put so much energy and effort into battlefield 3 we want $75 rather than the normal price" I mean that would be reasonable in some circumstances. But instead they try to make money off of this dlc nonsense.
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#40 deactivated-5c79c3cfce222
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Ok, I was unsure about whether or not this would be early access to gear you'd otherwise unlock by leveling up. I assumed this would be the case as the alternative is crazy. But it's made pretty clear on this site that three of the four items will actually only be available through this Physical Warfare code.

I knew EA would **** it up somehow, they're the worst. But this... Something must've gotten lost in translation, because this would just be unfathomably crappy. Charging for multiplayer unlocks. Another industry first by EA?

Oh and day one, retailer exclusive content etc. That's bad too.

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I hate dlc

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BC2 had so little content this doesn't really surprise me. What's worse is the content BC2 had was lacking in polish, which is ridiculous. I don't think DICE has what it takes to put out a quality product, at least not under EA.

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BC 2 came with 10 maps, each map is about 3x the size of a COD map.
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Making money is the name of the game, shame they have to do things like this to get it.
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#44 Remmib
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Making money is the name of the game, shame they have to do things like this to get it.DavidianMH

They lose money with this tactic.

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DICE, the saviors of gaming, the shooter genre, and multi-player! :P

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Really, though, that's just lame... And it's likely EA's decision. After the way the VIP thing was handled in Bad Company 2, I expected a bit better.

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#46 RurouniSaiyajin
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I'm confused, TC. Where does it say in your link that this content was cut from the game?

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#47 noxboxlive
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im going to say this now

1) the us version will jsut have a differnt day 1 weapon.

2) us british are awsome and should get free stuff

3) WTF EA

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EA does it again. Dont you just love EA?
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I have a feeling that maybe you just unlock that stuff from the get-go. Everyone else has to earn it themselves.-RocBoys9489-

Well, that wouldn't be so bad.

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[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

This is a shame. I hate store specific DLC pre order bonuses

CwlHeddwyn

It's annoying but like I said EA will release it to buy later on.

Well that isn't exactly a desirable alternative either