Crysis 2 - Consolized to the max! Crysis fans beware...

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"][QUOTE="rabakill"]Anyone who can't see the game's been completely changed is a complete moron. This isn't even a debate, like arguing over if a blue car is blue or not. The game has been substantially changed so that it can be played on consoles to maximize profit, end of story. If you disagree you haven't played both or you use your brain for a hat.rabakill

I'll believe it when I play it.

I just want that Crysis feel, and please god let there be downtime. (I haven't watched any gameplay vids, only short trailers).

Another thing I noticed is people calling us whiners for not liking what the game is like now, but yet it seems you guys are whining more about our complaints than anything. If we liked it like y'all, then you guys would have 0 problem. millerlight89

I'll believe it when I play it.

I just want that Crysis feel, and please god let there be downtime. (I haven't watched any gameplay vids, only short trailers).

[QUOTE="rabakill"][QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"] Or we simply like the changes that were made. Not saying the game wasn't changed. I simply prefer the new changes. I like the MP better, the suit, and the over all single player experience.i5750at4Ghz

I have played the leaked game at a friends house and I can say that it undoubtedly does not have the original crysis feel. You were flying dropships around in the jungle with armies running around everywhere. Crysis 2 is shooting aliens with a shotgun in a sewer, shooting soldiers on a roof, shooting soldiers and aliens on a roof..... end of game.

Not to me, I can see it being good in its day but I played it last year and stopped playing when I got to hong kong not for me, I brought it up because miller said he cant lower his standards, I remember him saying he recently played dues ex for the first time a year or so ago, If that is still to his standards but not crysis2, I dont know what to say.Advid-Gamer

It's understandable. But naw, it's flaws were fully apparent in 2000 wen it released. By 2000, there were many games with visuals, and gun mechanics far far superior to that of Deus Ex's. Not to mention the laughable AI, and the crap voice acting.

Though still, it's in my GOAT games signature.

Played it 2008, first time ever. Replayed it 5 times to this day. Gonna do a 6th replay soon enough. Meanwile since 2008 'till now, modded the hell outa games that many couldn't imagine how beautiful and breath taking they looked. I love seeing fantastic graphics in my games.

I guess it's because that i honestly never gave a **** about standards. Or what's popular. Or what others think..

I just play a game if it's good. If it sucks, **** it.

I'll believe it when I play it.

I just want that Crysis feel, and please god let there be downtime. (I haven't watched any gameplay vids, only short trailers).

I'll believe it when I play it.

I just want that Crysis feel, and please god let there be downtime. (I haven't watched any gameplay vids, only short trailers).

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"][QUOTE="millerlight89"] You aren't going to be getting that "Crysis" feel you are looking for. That is a fact that none of these guys can even dispute properly. millerlight89

The fact that I can disagree with your statement makes it your opinion. Basic stuff here man.

I'll believe it when I play it.

I just want that Crysis feel, and please god let there be downtime. (I haven't watched any gameplay vids, only short trailers).

Lowering standands... :lol: AAllxxjjnn hit on this area well, I'll leave it to his words.

Stevo_the_gamer

What I don't get is;

Depth? The linear, roller-coaster ride it takes you on? There is no control over strength mode. In fact theres a considerable amount of lag during power jumps, regular jumping, grabbing people, throwing people, and even objects. Thats not even consolization. Thats just piss-poor design. You don't have any control over strength mode or speed mode. Furthermore no suit mode is active by default. Invisibility and armor are on by default, and armor depletes while active as well as being hit. The weapon customization is still there, but you never get to keep the upgrades or addons you find. Its all based off the weapon you pick up, at least most of the time it is. Crysis 1 and Warhead have that yet they removed it for no reason. You can't mix anything either. One of my favorites was an AK47 with a sniper scope from a sniper rifle I found. Can't do that anymore. And yes the rest is still there. The binocs point out EVERYTHING though, aka holding your hands. You don't have to search for it yourself.

Where are there breakable trees? I haven't seen any in the beta so far. I don't see breakable barriers either outside of those small, concrete walls. As far as things falling off the shelves...anything like that was scripted. I didn't notice much, if at all, stuff flying off the shelves from a grenade.

It feels more limited than Crysis 1 as far as where you can go during fights, ect. Any sort of freedom is limited to a small, confined area to fight in.

The AI for the most part, is the same. The aliens stand right in your face and fire blindly. One could say it looks like they took The Conduit 1/2 and put it in HD with AI like that. Even on the hardest difficulty the CELL seems more un-aware than poorly equipped Korean soldiers.

Trimming un-necessary differences while adding more customization, it has commander, and unless you have some sort of proof then you can't confirm that. The weapons aren't taking up 1/2 of the screen as Crysis 2 does, nor does it have oversized weapon models. Of course FoV isn't an issue as it can be changed as in Crysis 2, Metro 2033, Bad Company 2, ect. Except even with changed FoV it still has huge weapon models in Crysis 2.

Those are my experiences and opinions from the beta.

[QUOTE="jedikevin2"]

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"] Cause they're all bark and no bite. i5750at4Ghz

I won't getting it till its on some steam d2d sale for less then 20 dollars. Don't know about millers preference but he prob gonna save his money till its on sale as well. Doesn't mean he won't be getting it.

The difference is that we're paying the price we feel the game is worth. I don't ever remember any of us who are pointing out the flaws with Crysis 2 said we wern't going to buy it. We obviously aren't going to buy it full priced (60 bucks on PC? No way in hell I'm paying for console development costs.)

The problem here is that all the supporters think because some choose to criticize it, means that we aren't going to buy the game and hate every little thing about the game. Maybe they need to re-read what we're saying or aren't understanding it. They act like we don't enjoy the game at all.

How is less interactivity an opinion? Jesus, here.

How is less interactivity an opinion? Jesus, here.

millerlight89

How is less interactivity an opinion? Jesus, here.

millerlight89

Lol Arthur ftw.

The problem here is that all the supporters think because some choose to criticize it, means that we aren't going to buy the game and hate every little thing about the game. Maybe they need to re-read what we're saying or aren't understanding it. They act like we don't enjoy the game at all.

ChubbyGuy40

i'd like to higlight this. it's not that i would only buy flawless games. not that they would even exist.

Good thing the original Crysis sucked.

[QUOTE="millerlight89"]

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"] If you're talking about the leak, thats no beta.i5750at4Ghz

[QUOTE="rabakill"][QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"] Because it's simply your opinion, in no way is it a fact. You can't dispute an opinion.i5750at4Ghz

-Less freedom. It feels like a cluster-**** with Crysis 2. You have to search for keys for vehicles and you don't even get to take them anywhere. Any freedom is limited to a small, confined space. There are only a handful of combat scenes where it doesn't feel small.

-Trees aren't destructable, and everything else is much more static or scripted. No use for vehicles too.

-You have considerably less control over the suit. Theres no control over strength or speed, and armor mode was dumbed down. Not to mention theres lag when jumping and throwing people.

-Less thought means that everything is alright highlighted for you with the binocs. It even gives you tips on where to "attack" from. It feels far too cramped compared to Crysis 1 and Warhead.

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

The problem here is that all the supporters think because some choose to criticize it, means that we aren't going to buy the game and hate every little thing about the game. Maybe they need to re-read what we're saying or aren't understanding it. They act like we don't enjoy the game at all.

i'd like to higlight this. it's not that i would only buy flawless games. not that they would even exist.

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"][QUOTE="millerlight89"] Yea because leaked BETA doesn't mean beta at all.

ampiva

The entire reasoning behind beta testing is for consumer interaction....

A internal only beta isn't a beta at all.

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

The problem here is that all the supporters think because some choose to criticize it, means that we aren't going to buy the game and hate every little thing about the game. Maybe they need to re-read what we're saying or aren't understanding it. They act like we don't enjoy the game at all.

groowagon

i'd like to higlight this. it's not that i would only buy flawless games. not that they would even exist.

If we bought only flawless games, then we'd have no games at all. (Except Starcraft 2. mwhahahaha)

I even bought 2 copies of Sniper Ghost Warrior. Bug filed game with MUCH room for improvement. Doesn't mean its not fun.

I did read your post. And if your unwilling to look for the post too bad I guess.i5750at4Ghz

here's the thing, you can't dispute reality. these aren't my opinions, it's simple fact, no matter how much you dislike it doesn't make it untrue. Just because I say it doesn't make it opinion, this is the worst argument I've ever heard. Oh god he said something I don't like therefore it's just opinion.... I can create an objective list of things that have been taken out of the original, a list you can't dispute, and a list of things that have been added. The list of things that have been removed greatly outnumbers the three things that have been added (sticking to walls, sliding and nanosuit upgrades). if you can't understand this it's not my fault, and saying it's just an opinion shows you don't understand what the word opinion means.

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"][QUOTE="rabakill"] but it's not an opinion as stated originally by the OP. -less freedom -less interactivity -less control -less thought which of these is not fact? ChubbyGuy40

-Less freedom. It feels like a cluster-**** with Crysis 2. You have to search for keys for vehicles and you don't even get to take them anywhere. Any freedom is limited to a small, confined space. There are only a handful of combat scenes where it doesn't feel small.

-Trees aren't destructable, and everything else is much more static or scripted. No use for vehicles too.

-You have considerably less control over the suit. Theres no control over strength or speed, and armor mode was dumbed down. Not to mention theres lag when jumping and throwing people.

-Less thought means that everything is alright highlighted for you with the binocs. It even gives you tips on where to "attack" from. It feels far too cramped compared to Crysis 1 and Warhead.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhKyTQP7Gmk&playnext=1&list=PL0AA294C36E725B79

I disagree with everything you said. Tree are destructible FYI.

i5750at4Ghz

you just gotta be trolling...

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"]I did read your post. And if your unwilling to look for the post too bad I guess.rabakill

here's the thing, you can't dispute reality. these aren't my opinions, it's simple fact, no matter how much you dislike it doesn't make it untrue. Just because I say it doesn't make it opinion, this is the worst argument I've ever heard. Oh god he said something I don't like therefore it's just opinion.... I can create an objective list of things that have been taken out of the original, a list you can't dispute, and a list of things that have been added. The list of things that have been removed greatly outnumbers the three things that have been added (sticking to walls, sliding and nanosuit upgrades). if you can't understand this it's not my fault, and saying it's just an opinion shows you don't understand what the word opinion means.

Good thing the original Crysis sucked.

2-10-08

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"]

I disagree with everything you said. Tree are destructible FYI.

groowagon

you just gotta be trolling...

Good thing the original Crysis sucked.

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"] All of them are opinions..... Look through the post I already gave me reason why yesterday.i5750at4Ghz

-Less freedom. It feels like a cluster-**** with Crysis 2. You have to search for keys for vehicles and you don't even get to take them anywhere. Any freedom is limited to a small, confined space. There are only a handful of combat scenes where it doesn't feel small.

-Trees aren't destructable, and everything else is much more static or scripted. No use for vehicles too.

-You have considerably less control over the suit. Theres no control over strength or speed, and armor mode was dumbed down. Not to mention theres lag when jumping and throwing people.

-Less thought means that everything is alright highlighted for you with the binocs. It even gives you tips on where to "attack" from. It feels far too cramped compared to Crysis 1 and Warhead.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhKyTQP7Gmk&playnext=1&list=PL0AA294C36E725B79

A very small tree that I haven't seen since the first level. Thats the only tree you could bring down. What happened to bringing down huge palm trees to crush a few Korean soldiers? Notice how the tree next to it didn't react at all.

[QUOTE="groowagon"]

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"]

I disagree with everything you said. Tree are destructible FYI.

i5750at4Ghz

you just gotta be trolling...

you don't get to disagree with facts, sorry dude, not on this planet.

[QUOTE="groowagon"]

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"]

I disagree with everything you said. Tree are destructible FYI.

i5750at4Ghz

you just gotta be trolling...

I don't see you trolling either, but I can't understand how anyone could say the suit improved.

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"]

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

-Less freedom. It feels like a cluster-**** with Crysis 2. You have to search for keys for vehicles and you don't even get to take them anywhere. Any freedom is limited to a small, confined space. There are only a handful of combat scenes where it doesn't feel small.

-Trees aren't destructable, and everything else is much more static or scripted. No use for vehicles too.

-You have considerably less control over the suit. Theres no control over strength or speed, and armor mode was dumbed down. Not to mention theres lag when jumping and throwing people.

-Less thought means that everything is alright highlighted for you with the binocs. It even gives you tips on where to "attack" from. It feels far too cramped compared to Crysis 1 and Warhead.

ChubbyGuy40

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhKyTQP7Gmk&playnext=1&list=PL0AA294C36E725B79

A very small tree that I haven't seen since the first level. Thats the only tree you could bring down. What happened to bringing down huge palm trees to crush a few Korean soldiers? Notice how the tree next to it didn't react at all.

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"][QUOTE="groowagon"]

you just gotta be trolling...

ChubbyGuy40

I don't see you trolling either, but I can't understand how anyone could say the suit improved.

If you noticed in the original Crysis you couldn't bring down the bigger trees as well. In later levels there are the palm like trees you talk about. Trees were flying all over when I played the level.i5750at4Ghz

I've shot at many trees. They don't go down. The only trees in Crysis that you couldn't bring down were the really thick trees. Which level are you talking about?

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"] If you noticed in the original Crysis you couldn't bring down the bigger trees as well. In later levels there are the palm like trees you talk about. Trees were flying all over when I played the level.ChubbyGuy40

I've shot at many trees. They don't go down. The only trees in Crysis that you couldn't bring down were the really thick trees. Which level are you talking about?

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"][QUOTE="groowagon"]

you just gotta be trolling...

groowagon

you don't get to disagree with facts, sorry dude, not on this planet.

If you noticed in the original Crysis you couldn't bring down the bigger trees as well. In later levels there are the palm like trees you talk about. Trees were flying all over when I played the level.i5750at4Ghz

they removed an actual gameplay mechanic where you could use trees as a weapon, it was reduced to a feature left in with zero functionality in the gameplay mechanic. They did this because the technical limitations of the CONSOLES forced them to. That is one of many examples of how the game has been consolized, ie. changed so it can run properly on all platforms while appealing to a larger audience. This isn't an opinion, the core gameplay has changed to fit the console limitations.

Good thing the original Crysis sucked.

[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="dakan45"] Yup. Now the second one? Looks like it gonna suck to everything the first game did right and be good on everything the first game did wrong. What i wanna ask people who played the beta and the demo is: Is the mouse sensivity the same as the demo? I felt it was too accelarated in the demo and i had trouble shooting and aiming because of it and the terrible fov.dakan45