Crysis 2 - Consolized to the max! Crysis fans beware...

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#251 psn8214
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Yea because they are going to totally have more open levels, better gameplay, and they are even going to add more destruction to the fianl game. :roll: O h yea, they will also have lean and won't have that POS cover mechanic. O wait..... :roll: There is a lot mroe wrong with this game than the **** blurry graphics.

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How dare you criticize this game! :o You must be one o' them PC elitists! Y'all just hatin' becuz' it's on consoles now!

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#252 millerlight89
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[QUOTE="psn8214"]

[QUOTE="millerlight89"]

Yea because they are going to totally have more open levels, better gameplay, and they are even going to add more destruction to the fianl game. :roll: O h yea, they will also have lean and won't have that POS cover mechanic. O wait..... :roll: There is a lot mroe wrong with this game than the **** blurry graphics.

How dare you criticize this game! :o You must be one o' them PC elitists! Y'all just hatin' becuz' it's on consoles now!

:P

Yea, I guess I should lower my standards like some of these guys seem to be doing. Hell, I wasn't a big fan of the first, but this is just a joke.
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#253 psn8214
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They're all over SW. Crysis 2's graphics are the main and central focus for ALL the hate. Look at PSN's post above mine ... oh, teh graphix?

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So the blurriness and bloom making spotting enemies difficult isn't an issue? :roll:

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#254 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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you don't care if the sequel of "the graphics king" get's toned down because of consoles? i find it annoying. i also hear that the game is not so open than the first one. oh teh graphix.

yeah, they'll propably fix that in the final version...

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Get's toned down? The game still outshines anything on consoles--I could care less if the game doesn't look as good as the original Crysis which in of itself is hard to measure down objectively which game is better looking. Even the original Crysis had crap textures in places, who gets to fix that? The modding community. Anyone who's crying -- here's a tissue for you folks by the way -- will end up modding the game anyways.

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#255 millerlight89
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

They're all over SW. Crysis 2's graphics are the main and central focus for ALL the hate. Look at PSN's post above mine ... oh, teh graphix?

psn8214

So the blurriness and bloom making spotting enemies difficult isn't an issue? :roll:

Dude, I thought it was my eyes when I was first playing. I can't see **** sometimes. Hell I wish Stevo was right, but he isn't. IMO, the graphics are least of the issues.

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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

They're all over SW. Crysis 2's graphics are the main and central focus for ALL the hate. Look at PSN's post above mine ... oh, teh graphix?

psn8214

So the blurriness and bloom making spotting enemies difficult isn't an issue? :roll:

Spotting enemies is not difficult; and if it is... use your binoculars and when you do spot them, tag em'.
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#257 psn8214
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Yea, I guess I should lower my standards like some of these guys seem to be doing. Hell, I wasn't a big fan of the first, but this is just a joke. millerlight89

I'm still going to buy the game, but that doesn't mean I can't criticize it for its shortcomings. It's a veritable step back in many ways, and the blur/bloom makes it almost intolerable for me.

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#258 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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None of those things is going to change in the final version. Just iron out the bugs..and maybe update the graphics.


The console cover system isn't going to be gone.

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#259 psn8214
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Spotting enemies is not difficult; and if it is... use your binoculars and when you do spot them, tag em'.Stevo_the_gamer

I wish I was like you. I really want to just accept everything they've changed and move on, but I simply cannot. I blame this upon 1.) Crysis being such an amazing experience, and 2.) me possessing standards much higher than yourself. Woe that I cannot simply forgive them for their transgressions. Still buying it regardless, but damn...

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This is what I like to call, a blog.mrmusicman247
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#261 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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I'm not going to lower my standards just to make this game enjoyable like I see so many here doing.

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Lowering standands... :lol: AAllxxjjnn hit on this area well, I'll leave it to his words.

The depth is still there. You can still power hit, power throw, power jump. You can still turn invisible. You can still tank in armor mode. You can still mod your weapons on the fly. You can now mod your Nanosuit. You still have binoculars, night vision, the ability to tag enemies and ammo crates.

You can still pick up everything in the environment and use it as a weapon. You can still break down trees. You can break apart barriers. Barrels and shipping crates deform from explosions. Concrete chips off pillars. Shelving in stores get blown apart by explosions.

You still have branching paths and level design that accommodates sandbox gameplay, stealth or action packed gameplay, something inbetween. There are sewers you can use to quietly make your way to the other side of the level, there is scafolding, rooftops and interoirs you can move through.

The AI still reacts to you the same as they did in Crysis 1, accomadating the same gameplay you found in the action bubbles in Crysis 1.

The 'dumbing down' of Crysis 1 to Crysis 2 is the equivalent of Battlefield 3 not having 7 c!asses, not having a commander, and not having lean (oh by the way, has same FOV as Crysis 2 as well).AAllxxjjnn

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#262 deactivated-5bda06edf37ee
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[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]None of those things is going to change in the final version. Just iron out the bugs..and maybe update the graphics.


The console cover system isn't going to be gone.

Stevo_the_gamer

I wish my crystal ball worked. :(

i wish your common sense worked. it was beta, not alpha. beta = all content ready. just debugging left.

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It's amazing people STILL don't understand what a beta is. If you think that all that crap is going to be changed.... then I'm sorry.
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#264 psn8214
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Dude, I thought it was my eyes when I was first playing. I can't see **** sometimes. Hell I wish Stevo was right, but he isn't. IMO, the graphics are least of the issues.

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I fired up Crysis Wars to doublecheck that my computer wasn't having a problem with the games or something. I kept telling myself there was no way it could be THAT blurry. :(

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#265 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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I wish I was like you. I really want to just accept everything they've changed and move on, but I simply cannot. I blame this upon 1.) Crysis being such an amazing experience, and 2.) me possessing standards much higher than yourself. Woe that I cannot simply forgive them for their transgressions. Still buying it regardless, but damn...

psn8214

I tend to try not to get dragged/bogged down by little things. If the overall game is still solid, that's all that matters to me.

*sees sig*

Battlefield 3... can't wait for the inevitable crying from folks there as well. All this complaining because of entitlement issues... one wants something, and they think they deserve it in the final game, as if their wants is as important as what the developer was seeing.

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It's amazing people STILL don't understand what a beta is. If you think that all that crap is going to be changed.... then I'm sorry. millerlight89
I'm well aware of what a pirated-broken-incomplete beta is. I sincerely apolozige and express my condolences to the individuals who downloaded the pirated broken beta and were disappointed. But like the old saying goes that forever holds true no matter the circumstance... actually, perhaps a picture would better express it.

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It's amazing people STILL don't understand what a beta is. If you think that all that crap is going to be changed.... then I'm sorry. millerlight89
If you're talking about the leak, thats no beta.
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#268 millerlight89
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"]I'm well aware of what a pirated-broken-incomplete beta is. I sincerely apolozige and express my condolences to the individuals who downloaded the pirated broken beta and were disappointed. But like the old saying goes that forever holds true no matter the circumstance... actually, perhaps a picture would better express it.

Stevo_the_gamer

I love how you get highlighting pirated. Nice one. It is a leaked BETA buddy, move on. It's not like we haven't all seen that message before and how many times does the game reallychange from the beta/demo? Yea, I thought so.
[QUOTE="millerlight89"]It's amazing people STILL don't understand what a beta is. If you think that all that crap is going to be changed.... then I'm sorry. i5750at4Ghz
If you're talking about the leak, thats no beta.

Yea because leaked BETA doesn't mean beta at all.

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[QUOTE="millerlight89"]It's amazing people STILL don't understand what a beta is. If you think that all that crap is going to be changed.... then I'm sorry. Stevo_the_gamer

I'm well aware of what a pirated-broken-incomplete beta is. I sincerely apolozige and express my condolences to the individuals who downloaded the pirated broken beta and were disappointed. But like the old saying goes that forever holds true no matter the circumstance... actually, perhaps a picture would better express it.

i suppose the quote from AAllxxjjnn was about the beta? sounded pretty good for a pirated-broken-incomplete-beta.

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#270 jedikevin2
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This thread is epic.. Went from concerns on demo to talkign about that leaked beta... What folks? STEVO.... I blame you LOL lol

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#271 millerlight89
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[QUOTE="groowagon"]

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

It's amazing people STILL don't understand what a beta is. If you think that all that crap is going to be changed.... then I'm sorry. millerlight89
I'm well aware of what a pirated-broken-incomplete beta is. I sincerely apolozige and express my condolences to the individuals who downloaded the pirated broken beta and were disappointed. But like the old saying goes that forever holds true no matter the circumstance... actually, perhaps a picture would better express it.

i suppose the quote from AAllxxjjnn was about the beta? sounded pretty good for a pirated-broken-incomplete-beta.

That's a great point. I guess his comments are valid because he agrees with Stevo :lol:
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I love how you get highlighting pirated. Nice one. It is a leaked BETA buddy, move on. millerlight89
Move on from the fact that many individuals pirated a leaked version of Crysis 2 and are crying foul because it didn't meet their expectations? I guess I can do that. Pity that Crytek probably lost sales because of pirates. Hopefully, the game still sells well.

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#273 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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i suppose the quote from AAllxxjjnn was about the beta? sounded pretty good for a pirated-broken-incomplete-beta.

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#274 GeneralShowzer
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"] I love how you get highlighting pirated. Nice one. It is a leaked BETA buddy, move on. Stevo_the_gamer

Move on from the fact that many individuals pirated a leaked version of Crysis 2 and are crying foul because it didn't meet their expectations? I guess I can do that. Pity that Crytek probably lost sales because of pirates. Hopefully, the game still sells well.

They lost way more sales because of the demo.;) And FYI, the beta wasn't pirated to hell and back. Probably about 10.000 people downloaded it.
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#275 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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This thread is epic.. Went from concerns on demo to talkign about that leaked beta... What folks? STEVO.... I blame you LOL lol

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Fair enough. Though... I blame my fellow sensitive PC gamers who went up in arms over trivial issues. :P
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#276 i5750at4Ghz
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

[QUOTE="millerlight89"] I love how you get highlighting pirated. Nice one. It is a leaked BETA buddy, move on. It's not like we haven't all seen that message before and how many times does the game reallychange from the beta/demo? Yea, I thought so. [QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"][QUOTE="millerlight89"]It's amazing people STILL don't understand what a beta is. If you think that all that crap is going to be changed.... then I'm sorry. millerlight89

If you're talking about the leak, thats no beta.

Yea because leaked BETA doesn't mean beta at all.

No it's simply clearly not a beta. Alpha tests are internal which is what this build was meant to be. Beta tests are external. Basic programming knowledge.
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#277 millerlight89
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"] I love how you get highlighting pirated. Nice one. It is a leaked BETA buddy, move on. Stevo_the_gamer

Move on from the fact that many individuals pirated a leaked version of Crysis 2 and are crying foul because it didn't meet their expectations? I guess I can do that. Pity that Crytek probably lost sales because of pirates. Hopefully, the game still sells well.

Oh it wil probably sell well on consoles. I hope it does, then they can become a console only developer. :) I'm still getting the game, so you can keep playing the pirate card if you like, doesn't mean much though.
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#278 mitu123
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Can March 22nd come any faster? Damn, this is a repeat over and over again.

I would love a official single player demo though to see if it's exactly like the leaked version.

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#279 GeneralShowzer
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[QUOTE="jedikevin2"]

This thread is epic.. Went from concerns on demo to talkign about that leaked beta... What folks? STEVO.... I blame you LOL lol

Stevo_the_gamer
Fair enough. Though... I blame my fellow sensitive PC gamers who went up in arms over trivial issues. :P

Nothing about this is trivial. Not to me anyway.
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#280 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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They lost way more sales because of the demo.;) And FYI, the beta wasn't pirated to hell and back. Probably about 10.000 people downloaded it.GeneralShowzer
Only if folks were hyping Crysis 2's multiplayer... which to my knowledge, are few and far between! Not as bad as other games, that's for sure. But doesn't excuse the folks who did pirate it.

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[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="jedikevin2"]

This thread is epic.. Went from concerns on demo to talkign about that leaked beta... What folks? STEVO.... I blame you LOL lol

Fair enough. Though... I blame my fellow sensitive PC gamers who went up in arms over trivial issues. :P

Nothing about this is trivial. Not to me anyway.

They really aren't Whatever, let him enjoy his game. I just can't forget about my standards to do it.
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[QUOTE="groowagon"]

i suppose the quote from AAllxxjjnn was about the beta? sounded pretty good for a pirated-broken-incomplete-beta.

Stevo_the_gamer

Previews, videos, developer comments, ect.

ok. well i don't want to judge the game by the beta reports either (haven't actually tried it myself), but some things definetly sound a bit lame. i bet the game is gonna be great, but i'm just worried it won't surpass the first one. we'll see when it's actually out.

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[QUOTE="millerlight89"] They really aren't Whatever, let him enjoy his game. I just can't forget about my standards to do it.

If the issues are that substantial, why buy it?
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="millerlight89"] They really aren't Whatever, let him enjoy his game. I just can't forget about my standards to do it.

If the issues are that substantial, why buy it?

Cause they're all bark and no bite.
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="millerlight89"] They really aren't Whatever, let him enjoy his game. I just can't forget about my standards to do it. i5750at4Ghz
If the issues are that substantial, why buy it?

Cause they're all bark and no bite.

I won't getting it till its on some steam d2d sale for less then 20 dollars (prob down to 9.99 hehe). Don't know about millers preference but he might save his money till its on sale as well. Doesn't mean he won't be getting it.

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[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]If the issues are that substantial, why buy it?jedikevin2

Cause they're all bark and no bite.

I won't getting it till its on some steam d2d sale for less then 20 dollars. Don't know about millers preference but he prob gonna save his money till its on sale as well. Doesn't mean he won't be getting it.

Still putting money in Cryteks pocket either way. The dev that let you down so.
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[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"] Cause they're all bark and no bite.

They're contributing to the consolization though--them giving Crytek money is like telling them it's A-Okay! Sort of like... buying map packs! Sure, one can complain about the cost, but who are they to complain when they go out and buy it anyways even though they knew beforehand? Compromising standards... Hmm. Light bulb; it just turned on. :P
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[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Fair enough. Though... I blame my fellow sensitive PC gamers who went up in arms over trivial issues. :Pmillerlight89
Nothing about this is trivial. Not to me anyway.

They really aren't Whatever, let him enjoy his game. I just can't forget about my standards to do it.

What a joke

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[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"] Still putting money in Cryteks pocket either way. The dev that let you down so.

Much, much, much more profit for Crytek too if they buy it off Steam. ;)
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"] They really aren't Whatever, let him enjoy his game. I just can't forget about my standards to do it. Stevo_the_gamer
If the issues are that substantial, why buy it?

I mean, it plays well for the most part, enough to warrant a purchase. The reason we're criticizing it is because it fails to match the precedent set by Crysis. I'm mildly amused that you are struggling with understanding such a simple concept.

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[QUOTE="jedikevin2"]

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"] Cause they're all bark and no bite. i5750at4Ghz

I won't getting it till its on some steam d2d sale for less then 20 dollars. Don't know about millers preference but he prob gonna save his money till its on sale as well. Doesn't mean he won't be getting it.

Still putting money in Cryteks pocket either way. The dev that let you down so.

HEHe... Crytek has not let me down. I don't really care either way on that. I know that if all the concerns I have come true, its definitely won't be worth 60 dollars, 50, 40 30 or 20 dollars. I have no problem picking up a game i'm meh about for ultra cheap aka 9.99. Kinda like why I picked up Hot pursuit for 17 dollars yesterday.

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Dont know why everyone is crying, the gameplay is a ton more polished and enjoyable. I think the MP is really going to catch on, the demo is full of players all the time. The small vocal minority of pc gamers that complain about everything on this site dont matter. Seems tons of people are enjoying it. Standards??? LOl Dues ex is still argued to be the best pc game ever on these boards, lol standards

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#293 rabakill
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Anyone who can't see the game's been completely changed is a complete moron. This isn't even a debate, like arguing over if a blue car is blue or not. The game has been substantially changed so that it can be played on consoles to maximize profit, end of story. If you disagree you haven't played both or you use your brain for a hat.
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#294 Lucianu
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Dont know why everyone is crying, the gameplay is a ton more polished and enjoyable. I think the MP is really going to catch on, the demo is full of players all the time. The small vocal minority of pc gamers that complain about everything on this site dont matter. Seems tons of people are enjoying it. Standards??? LOl Dues ex is still argued to be the best pc game ever on these boards, lol standards

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I thought it was a common fact that Deus Ex is the greatest pc game of all times.

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#295 mlbslugger86
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cripes, another crysis 2 thread...if i were crytek i would hire more secuirity, because they might have an angry mob outside there offices:?

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#296 millerlight89
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Anyone who can't see the game's been completely changed is a complete moron. This isn't even a debate, like arguing over if a blue car is blue or not. The game has been substantially changed so that it can be played on consoles to maximize profit, end of story. If you disagree you haven't played both or you use your brain for a hat.rabakill
I really don't think most of them want to admit it. You can't tell what hald of these people think most of the time.
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[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"]

Dont know why everyone is crying, the gameplay is a ton more polished and enjoyable. I think the MP is really going to catch on, the demo is full of players all the time. The small vocal minority of pc gamers that complain about everything on this site dont matter. Seems tons of people are enjoying it. Standards??? LOl Dues ex is still argued to be the best pc game ever on these boards, lol standards

Lucianu

I thought it was a common fact that Deus Ex is the greatest pc game of all times.

Not to me, I can see it being good in its day but I played it last year and stopped playing when I got to hong kong not for me, I brought it up because miller said he cant lower his standards, I remember him saying he recently played dues ex for the first time a year or so ago, If that is still to his standards but not crysis2, I dont know what to say.
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#298 i5750at4Ghz
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Anyone who can't see the game's been completely changed is a complete moron. This isn't even a debate, like arguing over if a blue car is blue or not. The game has been substantially changed so that it can be played on consoles to maximize profit, end of story. If you disagree you haven't played both or you use your brain for a hat.rabakill
Or we simply like the changes that were made. Not saying the game wasn't changed. I simply prefer the new changes. I like the MP better, the suit, and the over all single player experience.
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#299 millerlight89
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[QUOTE="Lucianu"]

[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"]

Dont know why everyone is crying, the gameplay is a ton more polished and enjoyable. I think the MP is really going to catch on, the demo is full of players all the time. The small vocal minority of pc gamers that complain about everything on this site dont matter. Seems tons of people are enjoying it. Standards??? LOl Dues ex is still argued to be the best pc game ever on these boards, lol standards

Advid-Gamer

I thought it was a common fact that Deus Ex is the greatest pc game of all times.

Not to me, I can see it being good in its day but I played it last year and stopped playing when I got to hong kong not for me, I brought it up because miller said he cant lower his standards, I remember him saying he recently played dues ex for the first time a year or so ago, If that is still to his standards but not crysis2, I dont know what to say.

Yea it's not to my standards. The only thing I feel lacking in Deus Ex is graphics, which is to be expected. Crysis 2's last problem is graphics. So I can't help a game from over a decade ago is better than a game for this year. Not my fault. Besides, that is pretty irrelavent when they are so different. My standards for RPGS and such is not the same as my FPS standards. Why would it be?

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#300 rabakill
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[QUOTE="rabakill"]Anyone who can't see the game's been completely changed is a complete moron. This isn't even a debate, like arguing over if a blue car is blue or not. The game has been substantially changed so that it can be played on consoles to maximize profit, end of story. If you disagree you haven't played both or you use your brain for a hat.i5750at4Ghz
Or we simply like the changes that were made. Not saying the game wasn't changed. I simply prefer the new changes. I like the MP better, the suit, and the over all single player experience.

what do you mean or.... the thread title is simple enough to understand. The original fans who supported the game should beware that is has been consolized and they should not expect anything even close to the original. If you just changed the title and the characters the game would be hard to recognize. Crytek took a crap all over those who supported them in the past by completely changing the game, sure you may like it but the vast majority who liked the old games for what they were will be sorely disappointed. Open jungle exploration with state of the art technology to city corridor running, yay....