I agree. KZ3s ai is very good. Crysis and from what i have seen of crysis 2 the ai aint so hot
Crysis 2 intro on 360 (Looks fantastic)
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I'm coming off as a big hater lately but I'm also kind of in both camps. It could go either way. I said in another thread if they added the proper pc version of lean, added prone and graphics settings id buy it. id also like to see some other control things get fixed like being able to toggle iron sights. The game isn't a broken wreck but there's so many little problems that bug me that I can't warrant $60 bucks on it. I'll be paying attention to updates and mods though.[QUOTE="blues35301"][QUOTE="millerlight89"] Same here. As I said before, i really like this game and only really hate on it because so many are ignoring the issues with it. I can understand why fans of the first are upset, but I wasn't that in love with it.
marq4porsche
Ok, I've played the beta today and I can say your fears are really unfounded. First the lean. It's different, but not different in a bad way. It's like using your iron sights but from behind a corner. It doesn't confuse the player or anything control wise. You can hold the right mouse for iron sights as well. I don't see what the issue is here, it's easy enough.
Toggle iron sights is standard for pc games. The only reason its hold only in C2 is to accompany console trigger buttons. They made one control script and pasted it over to the pc version...and i think the lean is terrible. You can only do it down sights so you can't just pop out and spray and you also can only lean on certain predetermined cover objects, not every wall in the game. Which is a joke. Yes the new cover system works, but its very clunky.KZ3's A.I. is bad? Horrid controls? Wow....I really hope your trolling, since those are some of the most fanboy remarks ive heard in a long time...KZ3's A.I. is easily the best A.I. in gaming, only matched by KZ2's and somewhat rivaled by F.E.A.R. KZ3 has very responsive control, without the input lag like in KZ2. KZ3 also looks substantially better than C2[QUOTE="Nayef_shroof"][QUOTE="taterfrickintot"] i dont like cods "floaty crap", but its infinitely better than killzone's uresponsive controls, and movement that makes me feel like i walking with bricks on my feet. a game with a good balance between weighty feel and responsiveness is BFBC2. killzone controls are horrid. the enemy AI in killzone is also bad, at least compared to crysis, and multiplescreenshots and videos from the hacked console versions of crysis 2 has show that it is far superior in graphics. and crysis's fast past parkouring mechanics, mixed with its stealth and power mechanics from the nanosuit crush anything that killzone has ever dreamed of doing and killzone's "multiple pathways" mainly consist of walking through the center or walking across a catwalk next to the middle or whatever. crysis 2's envroments are so complex that the guy got lost trying to get to where he needed to go in the second video. killzone got owned.LucidJubilation
see no...you've been playing PS3 exclusives for too long. you don't know what good A.I. and good controls are anymore.
, KZ2 & 3 are in fact praised for their enemy AI by gamers and gaming publications alike. You can try to deny it all you want, but doing so without playing it only hurts your credibility.wow... crysis 2 xbox 360 version for me. easily one of the best games of 2011. and the best looking game on consoles... I cant believe what i saw on youtube me eyes are bleeding. lol at achievement at the end of the video:lol:
achievement unlocked: Can it Run Crysis?
thats crazy!!!
[QUOTE="LucidJubilation"]
[QUOTE="Nayef_shroof"] KZ3's A.I. is bad? Horrid controls? Wow....I really hope your trolling, since those are some of the most fanboy remarks ive heard in a long time...KZ3's A.I. is easily the best A.I. in gaming, only matched by KZ2's and somewhat rivaled by F.E.A.R. KZ3 has very responsive control, without the input lag like in KZ2. KZ3 also looks substantially better than C2nervmeister
see no...you've been playing PS3 exclusives for too long. you don't know what good A.I. and good controls are anymore.
, KZ2 & 3 are in fact praised for their enemy AI by gamers and gaming publications alike. You can try to deny it all you want, but doing so without playing it only hurts your credibility. really? they are praised in a number of publications as well? where...can i have some linkS please? i havent seen the praise yet."its funny how cows now are talking about great A.I. and controls but before it was all about graphics...lol smh. now these things matter, really?? before when everyone else was telling you that they matter you'd just talk about how the game looks like crap though. dismiss the gameplay and say how the game looked like ***. hate to signal any one group out but cows definitely flip fop more out of everyone else to try and win an arguement."
, KZ2 & 3 are in fact praised for their enemy AI by gamers and gaming publications alike. You can try to deny it all you want, but doing so without playing it only hurts your credibility. really? they are praised in a number of publications as well? where...can i have some linkS please? i havent seen the praise yet."The AI of the enemy is perhaps one of the best, if not the best, that I have witnessed in video games." - GamingBolt[QUOTE="nervmeister"]
[QUOTE="LucidJubilation"]
see no...you've been playing PS3 exclusives for too long. you don't know what good A.I. and good controls are anymore. LucidJubilation
"The most impressive feature in 'Killzone 3' is the A.I. Which considerably helps immerse the player in its world." - Extreme Gamer
"This is among the best FPS AI ever witnessed." - examiner.com
"Killzone 3's enemy AI is fantastic." - Gamespot
"Interestingly, it isn't any of the above that lends Killzone 3's single player campaign its longevity and replay value. Instead, it's the cunning enemy AI." - VideoGameWriters
really? they are praised in a number of publications as well? where...can i have some linkS please? i havent seen the praise yet."The AI of the enemy is perhaps one of the best, if not the best, that I have witnessed in video games." - GamingBolt[QUOTE="LucidJubilation"]
[QUOTE="nervmeister"] , KZ2 & 3 are in fact praised for their enemy AI by gamers and gaming publications alike. You can try to deny it all you want, but doing so without playing it only hurts your credibility.
nervmeister
"The most impressive feature in 'Killzone 3' is the A.I. Which considerably helps immerse the player in its world." - Extreme Gamer
"This is among the best FPS AI ever witnessed." - examiner.com
"Killzone 3's enemy AI is fantastic." - Gamespot
"Interestingly, it isn't any of the above that lends Killzone 3's single player campaign its longevity and replay value. Instead, it's the cunning enemy AI." - VideoGameWriters
wow really? i stand corrected...good job and thanks for the effort."its funny how cows now are talking about great A.I. and controls but before it was all about graphics...lol smh. now these things matter, really?? before when everyone else was telling you that they matter you'd just talk about how the game looks like crap though. dismiss the gameplay and say how the game looked like ***. hate to signal any one group out but cows definitely flip fop more out of everyone else to try and win an arguement."
Now that Crysis 2 is the graphic king on consoles at least the 360 version I am really looking forward how the next graphic marvels stack up once they get closer to release Gears and Rage.rybe1025I think the next contender will be BF3 but Rage and Gears will definitely give it a run for its money.
[QUOTE="taterfrickintot"][QUOTE="Nayef_shroof"] ....:lol:. You know, you can switch the control scheme to your liking to make it where L1 is how you aim, L3 to sprint etc, etc. Killzones gunplay is unmatched by any shooter, and is very responsive when controlling. Just because you like floaty crap like COD, doesnt mean games like KZ should give up their signature weighty feel. Lol, PS3's best look substantially better than C2. If I were a higher member, Id post images. Again, KZ2/3 have some of, if not, the best gunplay of any shooter easily. KZ3 has slide/cover/vaulting mechanics, brutal melees, extremely intelligent A.I., multiple pathways to complete most objectives, etc, all while having an infinitely better MP component than C2, though KZ3's MP isnt as good as KZ2'sNayef_shroofi dont like cods "floaty crap", but its infinitely better than killzone's uresponsive controls, and movement that makes me feel like i walking with bricks on my feet. a game with a good balance between weighty feel and responsiveness is BFBC2. killzone controls are horrid. the enemy AI in killzone is also bad, at least compared to crysis, and multiplescreenshots and videos from the hacked console versions of crysis 2 has show that it is far superior in graphics. and crysis's fast past parkouring mechanics, mixed with its stealth and power mechanics from the nanosuit crush anything that killzone has ever dreamed of doing and killzone's "multiple pathways" mainly consist of walking through the center or walking across a catwalk next to the middle or whatever. crysis 2's envroments are so complex that the guy got lost trying to get to where he needed to go in the second video. killzone got owned. KZ3's A.I. is bad? Horrid controls? Wow....I really hope your trolling, since those are some of the most fanboy remarks ive heard in a long time...KZ3's A.I. is easily the best A.I. in gaming, only matched by KZ2's and somewhat rivaled by F.E.A.R. KZ3 has very responsive control, without the input lag like in KZ2. KZ3 also looks substantially better than C2
Its clear you havent played KZ3 or you are blind...
KZ3 AI bad??! They have some of the best AI ive ever seen, they are always hiding when you are trying to aim, they flank, they cover well etc. And the controls are wonderful...you just didnt want to take 10 minutes out of your day to learn a new scheme that wasnt based on COD.
Walk away.
[QUOTE="rybe1025"]Now that Crysis 2 is the graphic king on consoles at least the 360 version I am really looking forward how the next graphic marvels stack up once they get closer to release Gears and Rage.Frostbite24I think the next contender will be BF3 but Rage and Gears will definitely give it a run for its money.
I would say Geow 3 and Rage would be better artistically not technically, while BF3 would be better in technically.
[QUOTE="marq4porsche"][QUOTE="blues35301"] I'm coming off as a big hater lately but I'm also kind of in both camps. It could go either way. I said in another thread if they added the proper pc version of lean, added prone and graphics settings id buy it. id also like to see some other control things get fixed like being able to toggle iron sights. The game isn't a broken wreck but there's so many little problems that bug me that I can't warrant $60 bucks on it. I'll be paying attention to updates and mods though. blues35301
Ok, I've played the beta today and I can say your fears are really unfounded. First the lean. It's different, but not different in a bad way. It's like using your iron sights but from behind a corner. It doesn't confuse the player or anything control wise. You can hold the right mouse for iron sights as well. I don't see what the issue is here, it's easy enough.
Toggle iron sights is standard for pc games. The only reason its hold only in C2 is to accompany console trigger buttons. They made one control script and pasted it over to the pc version...and i think the lean is terrible. You can only do it down sights so you can't just pop out and spray and you also can only lean on certain predetermined cover objects, not every wall in the game. Which is a joke. Yes the new cover system works, but its very clunky.It wasn't in any way clunky when I played, as a matter of fact it was pretty smooth. Perhaps some people cannot accomadate change?
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