Crysis 2 PC already ravaged by piracy!

[QUOTE="ocstew"]No, no, no. When you say 50%, you mean 50%. Okay, if 7 mill is too high for you how about a mere 3 million. You would realise that's 1.5 million downloads? Also recent PC shooters? Besides say, Black Ops, COD which doesn't nearly have the same fanbase as Crysis?

dc337

Black Ops pc had over 4 million pirated downloads. The piracy rate was over 80%. Yes that means a majority didn't pay for it.

Yes I am predicting at least 50% for Crysis 2.

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]

[QUOTE="dc337"]
How am I clinging? I'm predicting that Crysis 2 will have a piracy rate of over 50%.

Given the piracy rates of recent pc shooters that is a conservative estimate. The Tweakguides look at pc piracy looks at those rates in detail.

I'm making a prediction based on statistics. Do you have a problem with that?

DerpyMcDerp

That's pretty much because Battlefield games don't really have single player campaigns. I'm sure if pirates could play online with their pirated copies of Bad Company 2, the sales numbers would be astronomically lower.

[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"] I feel bad for PC gamers right now. They're all seen as pirates first and gamers second. Sad..dc337

Wasn't it also pirated on X360 before it was even release?

I bet many dun even know it's leaked, wait for the final game and you will see how much it willpirated.

The beta equals the full version now? :|

[QUOTE="dc337"]

[QUOTE="MIYAMOTOnext007"]

thats a pretty low number especially considering that I honestly think 50% of those who downloaded are honestly going to buy thereal game when it is released :D

ocstew

Crysis 2 on pc will have a piracy rate of over 50%. That is just the way it goes for the pc these days.

Lets not forget PC gamers are downloading this game to test it out. It doesn't mean they aren't going to buy the game.

[QUOTE="ocstew"][QUOTE="dc337"] And you base that on what? Wishful thinking?

Crysis 2 on pc will have a piracy rate of over 50%. That is just the way it goes for the pc these days.

DarthBilf

[QUOTE="DarthBilf"][QUOTE="ocstew"] What's that based on? Oh wait, it's just a PC fakeboy's take on things. GeneralShowzer

http://pc.ign.com/articles/884/884757p1.html

It isn't a problem?

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]

[QUOTE="DarthBilf"] No, its a fairly conservative estimate based on the fact that crytek estimates that 95% of Crysis downloads were pirated.DarthBilf

http://pc.ign.com/articles/884/884757p1.html

It isn't a problem?

It's a problem, but it was just a justification for them to go multi-plat.

Know what's a bigger problem? Used game sales. Those are actual customers that are actually willing to pay for their games, and companies like Gamestop takes all the profit.

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"] Crysis was pirated 28 million times? Please give me a source. If you don't have a source you've been exposed for making stuff up.

http://pc.ign.com/articles/884/884757p1.html

It isn't a problem?

[QUOTE="DarthBilf"]

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"] Crysis was pirated 28 million times? Please give me a source. If you don't have a source you've been exposed for making stuff up.

GeneralShowzer

http://pc.ign.com/articles/884/884757p1.html

It isn't a problem?

It's a problem, but it was just a justification for them to go multi-plat.

Know what's a bigger problem? Used game sales. Those are actual customers that are actually willing to pay for their games, and companies like Gamestop takes all the profit.

ahem

"It's crazy how the ratio between sales to piracy is probably 1 to 15 to 1 to 20 right now. For one sale there are 15 to 20 pirates and pirate versions, and that's a big shame for the PC industry."

De Nile isn't just a river in Egypt.

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]

[QUOTE="DarthBilf"]

http://pc.ign.com/articles/884/884757p1.html

It isn't a problem?

DarthBilf

It's a problem, but it was just a justification for them to go multi-plat.

Know what's a bigger problem? Used game sales. Those are actual customers that are actually willing to pay for their games, and companies like Gamestop takes all the profit.

ahem

"It's crazy how the ratio between sales to piracy is probably 1 to 15 to 1 to 20 right now. For one sale there are 15 to 20 pirates and pirate versions, and that's a big shame for the PC industry."

De Nile isn't just a river in Egypt.

BC2 sold 2.5 million units on PC and was pirated about 4 million times.

I would guess the piracy ratio is somewhere average 1.5 or 2 to 1. It would be a big problem...If pirates were willing/able to pay for anything. But they aren't. :o

[QUOTE="DarthBilf"]

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"] Where does it say that 95 % was pirated? NOWHERE. Crysis sold 3 million which is about 2 million more than KZ2. :O

It's a problem, but it was just a justification for them to go multi-plat.

Know what's a bigger problem? Used game sales. Those are actual customers that are actually willing to pay for their games, and companies like Gamestop takes all the profit.

GeneralShowzer

ahem

"It's crazy how the ratio between sales to piracy is probably 1 to 15 to 1 to 20 right now. For one sale there are 15 to 20 pirates and pirate versions, and that's a big shame for the PC industry."

De Nile isn't just a river in Egypt.

BC2 sold 2.5 million units on PC and was pirated about 4 million times.

I would guess the piracy ratio is somewhere average 1.5 or 2 to 1. It would be a big problem...If pirates were willing/able to pay for anything. But they aren't. :o

You've got no way of knowing whether that is true or not. The problem far exceeds what you see it as. A more concrete example is the fact that pirated versions of World of Goo outsold legit versions 10 to 1.

And people who own PCs capable of playing Crysis/BC2/ Starcraft 2 can't afford the $50 to buy the actual game? Yeah...that a very bad argument.

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]

[QUOTE="DarthBilf"]

ahem

"It's crazy how the ratio between sales to piracy is probably 1 to 15 to 1 to 20 right now. For one sale there are 15 to 20 pirates and pirate versions, and that's a big shame for the PC industry."

De Nile isn't just a river in Egypt.

DarthBilf

BC2 sold 2.5 million units on PC and was pirated about 4 million times.

I would guess the piracy ratio is somewhere average 1.5 or 2 to 1. It would be a big problem...If pirates were willing/able to pay for anything. But they aren't. :o

You've got no way of knowing whether that is true or not. The problem far exceeds what you see it as. A more concrete example is the fact that pirated versions of World of Goo outsold legit versions 10 to 1.

And people who own PCs capable of playing Crysis/BC2/ Starcraft 2 can't afford the $50 to buy the actual game? Yeah...that a very bad argument.

Crysis has been the most technically advanced game for four years. It has sold 3+ million copies in that time. A lot of those copies have been at reduced price (it costs $15 today, but have been $10 at sales). Compare this to the less advanced console exclusive RDR, which has sold 8M+ copies in less than a year (much higher average price). Blops sold almost that (7M) in 24h (95% console sales)! No wonder that Crytek, with the superior product, feels disapointed!Sushiglutton

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]

[QUOTE="DarthBilf"]

http://pc.ign.com/articles/884/884757p1.html

It isn't a problem?

DarthBilf

It's a problem, but it was just a justification for them to go multi-plat.

Know what's a bigger problem? Used game sales. Those are actual customers that are actually willing to pay for their games, and companies like Gamestop takes all the profit.

ahem

"It's crazy how the ratio between sales to piracy is probably 1 to 15 to 1 to 20 right now. For one sale there are 15 to 20 pirates and pirate versions, and that's a big shame for the PC industry."

De Nile isn't just a river in Egypt.

There is no concrete evidence in that statement, and the fact that he's saying "probably" shows that he's ballparking it, and with no guarantee of accuracy either. And that's pretty easy to believe - the implications of that guess are that the Witcher was pirated 15 million times and S.T.A.L.K.E.R. got downloaded 25 million times, which would make them 4-6 times more heavily pirated than the most pirated game of 2010. Of course, that would also mean that Crysis and Warhead got pirated 67.5 million times, making them about 15 times more heavily pirated than said most pirated game of 2010.

Now, I don't know about you but given the growing size of the PC market, that doesn't sound like a very plausible idea.

Crysis has been the most technically advanced game for four years. It has sold 3+ million copies in that time. A lot of those copies have been at reduced price (it costs $15 today, but have been $10 at sales). Compare this to the less advanced console exclusive RDR, which has sold 8M+ copies in less than a year (much higher average price). Blops sold almost that (7M) in 24h (95% console sales)! No wonder that Crytek, with the superior product, feels disapointed!Sushiglutton

You've got no way of knowing whether that is true or not. The problem far exceeds what you see it as. A more concrete example is the fact that pirated versions of World of Goo outsold legit versions 10 to 1.

And people who own PCs capable of playing Crysis/BC2/ Starcraft 2 can't afford the $50 to buy the actual game? Yeah...that a very bad argument.

DarthBilf

What about people in China, or Vietnam, or some African country, who cannot buy the game at all? Also, why not focus on actual piracy? There are thousands if not millions of counterfeit games out there, being sold in third world countries or just shady places. Last time I went to China, I saw a store literally filled with software that was being sold at 10RMB per disk. For anything. You don't think that's a bigger problem than some kids downloading ilegitimate copies of games that they may or may not have ever paid for?

[QUOTE="Sushiglutton"]Crysis has been the most technically advanced game for four years. It has sold 3+ million copies in that time. A lot of those copies have been at reduced price (it costs $15 today, but have been $10 at sales). Compare this to the less advanced console exclusive RDR, which has sold 8M+ copies in less than a year (much higher average price). Blops sold almost that (7M) in 24h (95% console sales)! No wonder that Crytek, with the superior product, feels disapointed!DragonfireXZ95

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]

[QUOTE="Sushiglutton"]Crysis has been the most technically advanced game for four years. It has sold 3+ million copies in that time. A lot of those copies have been at reduced price (it costs $15 today, but have been $10 at sales). Compare this to the less advanced console exclusive RDR, which has sold 8M+ copies in less than a year (much higher average price). Blops sold almost that (7M) in 24h (95% console sales)! No wonder that Crytek, with the superior product, feels disapointed!Sushiglutton

[QUOTE="Sushiglutton"][QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"] Show me where you can buy Crysis for 15 dollars.

bobbetybob

[QUOTE="HuusAsking"][QUOTE="BodyElite"] Whats the point of stealing a game if you are going to purchase it the next day? :roll:dc337

People pirate because they don't want to pay. PC games that had 90% piracy rates did not have a following surge of sales after those pc gamers "tried out" the game.

haha you clearly have no idea how pc gaming works, watch youtube videos :lol: that only works for consoles im afraid

[QUOTE="Sushiglutton"]Crysis has been the most technically advanced game for four years. It has sold 3+ million copies in that time. A lot of those copies have been at reduced price (it costs $15 today, but have been $10 at sales). Compare this to the less advanced console exclusive RDR, which has sold 8M+ copies in less than a year (much higher average price). Blops sold almost that (7M) in 24h (95% console sales)! No wonder that Crytek, with the superior product, feels disapointed!GeneralShowzer

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="Sushiglutton"]Crysis has been the most technically advanced game for four years. It has sold 3+ million copies in that time. A lot of those copies have been at reduced price (it costs $15 today, but have been $10 at sales). Compare this to the less advanced console exclusive RDR, which has sold 8M+ copies in less than a year (much higher average price). Blops sold almost that (7M) in 24h (95% console sales)! No wonder that Crytek, with the superior product, feels disapointed!Sushiglutton

this is why the hermits lose their IPs. pretty sad really.

[QUOTE="DarthBilf"]

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"] Where does it say that 95 % was pirated? NOWHERE. Crysis sold 3 million which is about 2 million more than KZ2. :O

It's a problem, but it was just a justification for them to go multi-plat.

Know what's a bigger problem? Used game sales. Those are actual customers that are actually willing to pay for their games, and companies like Gamestop takes all the profit.

GeneralShowzer

ahem

"It's crazy how the ratio between sales to piracy is probably 1 to 15 to 1 to 20 right now. For one sale there are 15 to 20 pirates and pirate versions, and that's a big shame for the PC industry."

De Nile isn't just a river in Egypt.

BC2 sold 2.5 million units on PC and was pirated about 4 million times.

I would guess the piracy ratio is somewhere average 1.5 or 2 to 1. It would be a big problem...If pirates were willing/able to pay for anything. But they aren't. :o

this is why the hermits lose their IPs. pretty sad really.

taterfrickintot

Crysis has been the most technically advanced game for four years. It has sold 3+ million copies in that time. A lot of those copies have been at reduced price (it costs $15 today, but have been $10 at sales). Compare this to the less advanced console exclusive RDR, which has sold 8M+ copies in less than a year (much higher average price). Blops sold almost that (7M) in 24h (95% console sales)! No wonder that Crytek, with the superior product, feels disapointed!Sushiglutton

this is why the hermits lose their IPs. pretty sad really.

taterfrickintot

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="Sushiglutton"]Crysis has been the most technically advanced game for four years. It has sold 3+ million copies in that time. A lot of those copies have been at reduced price (it costs $15 today, but have been $10 at sales). Compare this to the less advanced console exclusive RDR, which has sold 8M+ copies in less than a year (much higher average price). Blops sold almost that (7M) in 24h (95% console sales)! No wonder that Crytek, with the superior product, feels disapointed!Sushiglutton

Anyone have a link to show how many times Crysis (1) has been pirated? I googled it and I didn't get anything. Someone in this thread said it was 2-3 million and I just don't believe that.DudeNtheRoom

I'm not going to say that I didn't try it, but I have my game pre ordered at Gamestop. Plus I think I played it for like 1 minute and deleted it which I'm sure many will follow suite. Crytek are like the only developers still making solid pc games.

If GTA IV sold so low on PC, there wouldn't be EFLC on PC. RDR is not the same stuido as IV. Rockstar San Diego have not worked on a PC game ever, and don't even have PC programmers.GeneralShowzer

I just hope Crysis 2 sells more than Cod black ops

[QUOTE="Sushiglutton"]Crysis has been the most technically advanced game for four years. It has sold 3+ million copies in that time. A lot of those copies have been at reduced price (it costs $15 today, but have been $10 at sales). Compare this to the less advanced console exclusive RDR, which has sold 8M+ copies in less than a year (much higher average price). Blops sold almost that (7M) in 24h (95% console sales)! No wonder that Crytek, with the superior product, feels disapointed!SAGE_OF_FIRE

[QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"][QUOTE="Sushiglutton"]Crysis has been the most technically advanced game for four years. It has sold 3+ million copies in that time. A lot of those copies have been at reduced price (it costs $15 today, but have been $10 at sales). Compare this to the less advanced console exclusive RDR, which has sold 8M+ copies in less than a year (much higher average price). Blops sold almost that (7M) in 24h (95% console sales)! No wonder that Crytek, with the superior product, feels disapointed!dc337

Agreed. Even though lolsoles aren't the best for gaming, everybody should have one for that random console exclusive.

I just hope Crysis 2 sells more than Cod black ops

siddarthshetty

[QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"][QUOTE="Sushiglutton"]Crysis has been the most technically advanced game for four years. It has sold 3+ million copies in that time. A lot of those copies have been at reduced price (it costs $15 today, but have been $10 at sales). Compare this to the less advanced console exclusive RDR, which has sold 8M+ copies in less than a year (much higher average price). Blops sold almost that (7M) in 24h (95% console sales)! No wonder that Crytek, with the superior product, feels disapointed!dc337

The average amazon rating was 1.0, and the gamespot user rating 5.0. I remember.

[QUOTE="DudeNtheRoom"]Anyone have a link to show how many times Crysis (1) has been pirated? I googled it and I didn't get anything. Someone in this thread said it was 2-3 million and I just don't believe that.dc337