Crysis has over stayed its welcome....
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"][QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"]
All I could read was bla bla bla, you pc gamers defend crysis like it gave birth to your children.
Skittles_McGee
Or simply because it's a great game that gets way to much flak.
Nope thats impossible, you're just a fanboy if you like and defend Crysis. Don't you love SW?No... It can't be... Me, a fanboy? :o
I should learn to keep my mouth shut :P
[QUOTE="lundy86_4"][QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"]
All I could read was bla bla bla, you pc gamers defend crysis like it gave birth to your children.
Skittles_McGee
Or simply because it's a great game that gets way to much flak.
Nope thats impossible, you're just a fanboy if you like and defend Crysis. Don't you love SW? Funny thing is I wasn't even defending Crysis in particular. I was merely pointing out you can't hide under the guise of its my opinion when your views are being scrutinized.
so i'm to understand that i'm not allowed an opinion? how on earth am i running away? let's see here, you're a super soldier with a nanosuit in an FPS environment..........that's not the least bit familiar territory?[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="6matt6"]Either way if its an opinion or a claim I don't care but calling something generic then running away with no explanation makes your opinion on the game weak. Not all opinions are equal someone who puts thought into their opinion and has justification has a much better opinion then someone who says 'because I feel that way'6matt6
Maybe you should read peoples posts CAREFULLY before you reply. I never said your not allowed an opinion nor did I even imply it I simply stated that opinions are judged by how well you justify them.
Good and bad opinions exist you know.
Also see where I bolded. How am I to take that statement seriously? If you don't see why thats a bad argument allow me to demostrate.
''Half-lIfe is generic because your a guy who gets in a power suit and you save the world from aliens''
its less generic than crysis. half life was quite a bit ahead of its time. so was halo. and who are you to decide who's opinions on these boards are good or bad? your views carry no greater or lesser weight than mine.if i were to say the same things about MLB 2010 the show, or Resistance 2, or Uncharted 2, you wouldn't bat an eye. i'm sorry that it upsets you so much that some people don't place crysis on the same pedestal that you do. that's the nice thing about opinions, though. everyone gets to have them. and if i'm so difficult to converse with, why do you continue to respond?Another day and more talking to you.
I have spent days explaining myself as to why what you call a opinion cannot go without justification; and you are still behaving in this manner. No matter what I say, your automatic response is to reject everything I said and stand by not having to justify your accusations, outright ignoring everything I have said.
Is it any wonder then that I apparently said what I did about you a while back? Talking to you is like head butting a brick wall, you say what you want; but refuse to explain yourself. Because then you would have the inconvenience of having your accusations scrutinized.
As far as I'm concerned all accusations against Crysis are void if you cannot be bothered to back up those accusations, no substance means a shallow and unfounded accusation. It's like a child throwing insults in a playground, they cannot prove they know your mother; but feel they can comment on them none the less.
AnnoyedDragon
[QUOTE="lundy86_4"][QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"]
All I could read was bla bla bla, you pc gamers defend crysis like it gave birth to your children.
Skittles_McGee
Or simply because it's a great game that gets way to much flak.
Nope thats impossible, you're just a fanboy if you like and defend Crysis. Don't you love SW? I like crysis, but I dont feel the need to defend it to the death, espeacially on sw, who cares what the haters think.I like crysis, but I dont feel the need to defend it to the death, espeacially on sw, who cares what the haters think.Advid-Gameri agree. i simply stated my opinion, without intending to flame and annoy anyone, and this thread has made it to 11 pages. and again, had i said these things about almost any other game, no one would have even bothered to respond.
i agree. i simply stated my opinion, without intending to flame and annoy anyone, and this thread has made it to 11 pages. and again, had i said these things about almost any other game, no one would have even bothered to respond.[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"] I like crysis, but I dont feel the need to defend it to the death, espeacially on sw, who cares what the haters think.clone01
Probably because the whole "generic" arguement has been played to death. Similar to how KZ2 diehards are starting to retaliate whenever someone calls it a blurfest.
i agree. i simply stated my opinion, without intending to flame and annoy anyone, and this thread has made it to 11 pages. and again, had i said these things about almost any other game, no one would have even bothered to respond.[QUOTE="clone01"]
[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"] I like crysis, but I dont feel the need to defend it to the death, espeacially on sw, who cares what the haters think.Dataleak
Probably because the whole "generic" arguement has been played to death. Similar to how KZ2 diehards are starting to retaliate whenever someone calls it a blurfest.
if its been "played to death," wouldn't it be fair to assume that others hold that opinion as well? its funny you mention KZ2 fans, as i find them to be pretty fanatical about that title.To be fair, Killzone 2 does actually use a blur to do its AA (Nvidia's Quincunx technique). I was willing to overlook the bit of blur, because the game is just fun as all hell. But then again, there are plenty of areas where Crysis fails to live up to its billing around here, and when you point some out, its defenders will just ignore you in favor of easier prey.Similar to how KZ2 diehards are starting to retaliate whenever someone calls it a blurfest.
Dataleak
Nothing is ever as good as it's said to be. We'd all do well to remember that.
[QUOTE="Dataleak"][QUOTE="clone01"] i agree. i simply stated my opinion, without intending to flame and annoy anyone, and this thread has made it to 11 pages. and again, had i said these things about almost any other game, no one would have even bothered to respond.
clone01
Probably because the whole "generic" arguement has been played to death. Similar to how KZ2 diehards are starting to retaliate whenever someone calls it a blurfest.
if its been "played to death," wouldn't it be fair to assume that others hold that opinion as well? its funny you mention KZ2 fans, as i find them to be pretty fanatical about that title.But don't they have a right too? Killzone 2 has some of the most stunning visuals ever to appear in a game. Ofcourse Crysis isn't the second coming of Christ, and no, it doesn't have the greatest gameplay ever, but there's no denying no game plays like it. Your opinions are valid, but to call Crysis generic is foolish.
Crysis was a great game... for the first act. After the game went zero-gravity I almost vomited from motion sickness and had to lay down for an hour. Never touched it again.
Well, at least it was pretty. There are stacks of games that have since surpassed it, though.
But don't they have a right too? Killzone 2 has some of the most stunning visuals ever to appear in a game. Ofcourse Crysis isn't the second coming of Christ, and no, it doesn't have the greatest gameplay ever, but there's no denying no game plays like it. Your opinions are valid, but to call Crysis generic is foolish.Dataleak
i really don't think so. let's face it, every game borrows a little bit from every game before it. but you can call halo, cod, resistance generic as well. i do appreciate that you feel my opinion is valid. that certainly shows a civility and openness to other viewpoints, and i appreciate that.
if i were to say the same things about MLB 2010 the show, or Resistance 2, or Uncharted 2, you wouldn't bat an eye.
clone01
Because I haven't played any of those games; and hence cannot comment on their game play. I have however played Crysis, so it acquires my attention when people make claims about the game I know from experience are not true.
i'm sorry that it upsets you so much that some people don't place crysis on the same pedestal that you do. that's the nice thing about opinions, though. everyone gets to have them. and if i'm so difficult to converse with, why do you continue to respond?
clone01
Did I not earlier say people do this? That they accuse you of thinking Crysis is perfect; just because you keep asking for them to explain their accusations against the game. That they paint you as having the extreme opinion to redirect attention from your own claims? Thanks for reinforcing the stereotype I have come to expect from these arguments, not that consistently refusing to elaborate on the accusation Crysis is "average" didn't do that.
You are the one defending the claim that Crysis is average, that means you might as well be making that claim. I am simply trying to get you to explain why you think that way; so that I can look at the claims being made and judge for myself whether they are justified or not. If it was the odd person I wouldn't care, but there seems to be almost a conspiracy in SW to rewrite history to say Crysis was nothing worth noting, the means being by repeating it is generic over and over again in mass until people believe it.
That is why I keep responding, to get a straight answer out of you. The fact is a conversation requires more than one person, so why do you feel the need to keep responding back; which prompts my response?
[QUOTE="Dataleak"]But don't they have a right too? Killzone 2 has some of the most stunning visuals ever to appear in a game. Ofcourse Crysis isn't the second coming of Christ, and no, it doesn't have the greatest gameplay ever, but there's no denying no game plays like it. Your opinions are valid, but to call Crysis generic is foolish.
clone01
i really don't think so. let's face it, every game borrows a little bit from every game before it. but you can call halo, cod, resistance generic as well. i do appreciate that you feel my opinion is valid. that certainly shows a civility and openness to other viewpoints, and i appreciate that.
But we're talking about it being generic, not innovation. Genericism is normally a term for something indistinguishable, and this certainly doesn't apply to Crysis. Lets compare Cod to Killzone. You run, you shoot, you reload, you find new weapons. In Crysis, you can customize your weapons on the fly, switch from different suit functions which have an impact on how you play, You can grab enemies, using them as human shields, or using them as a bowling ball, you can shoot down trees to use them as dynamic camoflage. It's these small touches that make it stand out from the crowd, and for me, are features that I genuinely miss from certain FPSs.
Did I not earlier say people do this? That they accuse you of thinking Crysis is perfect; just because you keep asking for them to explain their accusations against the game. That they paint you as having the extreme opinion to redirect attention from your own claims? Thanks for reinforcing the stereotype I have come to expect from these arguments, not that consistently refusing to elaborate on the accusation Crysis is "average" didn't do that.You are the one defending the claim that Crysis is average, that means you might as well be making that claim. I am simply trying to get you to explain why you think that way; so that I can look at the claims being made and judge for myself whether they are justified or not. If it was the odd person I wouldn't care, but there seems to be almost a conspiracy in SW to rewrite history to say Crysis was nothing worth noting, the means being by repeating it is generic over and over again in mass until people believe it.
That is why I keep responding, to get a straight answer out of you. The fact is a conversation requires more than one person, so why do you feel the need to keep responding back; which prompts my response?
AnnoyedDragon
so again, your argument comes down to " i like crysis so you are wrong." got it.
But we're talking about it being generic, not innovation. Genericism is normally a term for something indistinguishable, and this certainly doesn't apply to Crysis. Lets compare Cod to Killzone. You run, you shoot, you reload, you find new weapons. In Crysis, you can customize your weapons on the fly, switch from different suit functions which have an impact on how you play, You can grab enemies, using them as human shields, or using them as a bowling ball, you can shoot down trees to use them as dynamic camoflage. It's these small touches that make it stand out from the crowd, and for me, are features that I genuinely miss from certain FPSs.Dataleak
innovation and generic are terms that have a fairly close relationship. almost everything in crysis, i have seen in other titles. if one likes the overall package, then power to them. just not my thing. i found the experience mediocre. again, i'm not right or wrong. its an opinion, something that a few posters here don't seem to accept.
i'd like to know how i'm trolling, if you are referring to me. i provided an opinion. i have not insulted, flamed, or brought any malicious intention into this thread.Stop feeding the troll. Also yea maybe one day a game will surpass crysis, I had hoped crysis 2 would do that but I highly doubt it now. Oh well!
Espada12
i'd like to know how i'm trolling, if you are referring to me. i provided an opinion. i have not insulted, flamed, or brought any malicious intention into this thread.clone01
I'm not saying who I am referring to in the least bit due to obvious reasons but care to explain how you got
so again, your argument comes down to " i like crysis so you are wrong." got it.
clone01
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Did I not earlier say people do this? That they accuse you of thinking Crysis is perfect; just because you keep asking for them to explain their accusations against the game. That they paint you as having the extreme opinion to redirect attention from your own claims? Thanks for reinforcing the stereotype I have come to expect from these arguments, not that consistently refusing to elaborate on the accusation Crysis is "average" didn't do that.You are the one defending the claim that Crysis is average, that means you might as well be making that claim. I am simply trying to get you to explain why you think that way; so that I can look at the claims being made and judge for myself whether they are justified or not. If it was the odd person I wouldn't care, but there seems to be almost a conspiracy in SW to rewrite history to say Crysis was nothing worth noting, the means being by repeating it is generic over and over again in mass until people believe it.
That is why I keep responding, to get a straight answer out of you. The fact is a conversation requires more than one person, so why do you feel the need to keep responding back; which prompts my response?
AnnoyedDragon
so again, your argument comes down to " i like crysis so you are wrong." got it.
clone01
I have asked you time and time again, over days, over pages, to simply elaborate on your accusations.
What is it going to take?
[QUOTE="Espada12"]
I'm not saying who I am referring to in the least bit due to obvious reasons but care to explain how you got...
quite easily. i said that i thought (note thought - my opinion, not necessarily anyone else) crysis was generic. i've played it a bit, i don't see anything special about it. at least two posters here have questioned my reading comprehension, one has said i am trolling for holding that opinion. another one insists that if i don't provide a detailed explanation about why i don't care for a game, i'm trolling. in other words, if i don't hold the opinion of these posters, then i'm wrong. at least, that's what i have taken from the past few pages.
[QUOTE="clone01"]
so again, your argument comes down to " i like crysis so you are wrong." got it.
AnnoyedDragon
I have asked you time and time again, over days, over pages, to simply elaborate on your accusations.
What is it going to take?
i don't know how else i can word it for you. i didn't care for it. played a chunk of it, and i found it to be extremely uninteresting. what would you like me to say? the enemies are uninteresting? the nanosuit has been done before? what? i'd like to know.[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"][QUOTE="clone01"]
so again, your argument comes down to " i like crysis so you are wrong." got it.
clone01
I have asked you time and time again, over days, over pages, to simply elaborate on your accusations.
What is it going to take?
i don't know how else i can word it for you. i didn't care for it. played a chunk of it, and i found it to be extremely uninteresting. what would you like me to say? the enemies are uninteresting? the nanosuit has been done before? what? i'd like to know.Fair enough.
[QUOTE="6matt6"] Wow. You have a huge problem with reading peoples posts don't you? Or at least understanding them.clone01not really...read the entire post. how about this analogy, since the onion analogy fell flat. i love baseball. my wife finds it incredibly boring. now, if you were to ask here why she finds it boring, how would she quantify that? i can bet you if would be a fairly difficult question to answer. perhaps she might say something along the lines of "it takes to long between batters," or "there's not enough scoring," but more likely she would say "its just boring." one of the best games i've played this gen is fallout 3. a lot of people hate it with a passion. and many of them would have a hard time putting a finger on why they hate it. when you have any pursuit that is artistic, be it music, art, literature, games (yes, i consider game design artistic) you'll have people with varying opinions. again, when someone says "anyone who says crysis is generic is trolling," i find that a bit vindictive. don't you?
I have no problem with someone disliking Crysis, but calling it generic is another story. I have no interest in Baseball, and personally find it one of the most boringest sports, but I don't call it generic.
[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"][QUOTE="clone01"]
so again, your argument comes down to " i like crysis so you are wrong." got it.
clone01
I have asked you time and time again, over days, over pages, to simply elaborate on your accusations.
What is it going to take?
i don't know how else i can word it for you. i didn't care for it. played a chunk of it, and i found it to be extremely uninteresting. what would you like me to say? the enemies are uninteresting? the nanosuit has been done before? what? i'd like to know.The feeling is mutual, I don't know how else I can word what I'm requesting from you, I've explained it multiple times. Other people witnessing our conversation don't seem to have a issue understanding what's being requested.
I don't know what else I can say without getting the usual response back.
quite easily. i said that i thought (note thought - my opinion, not necessarily anyone else) crysis was generic. i've played it a bit, i don't see anything special about it. at least two posters here have questioned my reading comprehension, one has said i am trolling for holding that opinion. another one insists that if i don't provide a detailed explanation about why i don't care for a game, i'm trolling. in other words, if i don't hold the opinion of these posters, then i'm wrong. at least, that's what i have taken from the past few pages.Do you know what generic means? How is THIS generic? It's game design is far from generic.clone01
It's like saying, I think that Apples are blue. Just my opinion.
QFT.....shut up Devious:evil:you know what......nvm.. ill let the pics do the talking8)
I dont even try anymore:(
devious742
Crysis happens to be the best action based FPS game I've ever played. I had more fun with the original doom back in the days but from a pure "quality" perspective we've come a long way since doom.
Unlike some of my fellow Crysis fans I've no problem with people hating the game. They can hate it to hell and back and no explanation required. But when you haters use words that you don't even seem to understand the meaning of, that is when I think you should just back off.
Let me tell you why I think this game is so damn good.It's because Crysis has less generic game play than all the other FPS games floating around combined. Somebody mentioned HL2 in all of this and let me tell you, the gameplay mechanics in HL2 are WAY more generic than those in Crysis. Maybe you are confusing gameplay mechanics for the story, because you are off.
Yes, HL2 introduced new things in terms of gameplay when it was released five or sixyears ago but so did doom when it was released almost 20 years ago. So what you are saying is that everything that plays FP and where you carry some kind of weapon is generic and no matter how many elements of interactivity, freedom and choices the player is introduced with (evolution of gaming) will not change the fact that the game is generic. Then according to you every single game that will be released from now on are automatically generic games.
Then why bother evolve games beyond doom is my question to you?
not really...read the entire post. how about this analogy, since the onion analogy fell flat. i love baseball. my wife finds it incredibly boring. now, if you were to ask here why she finds it boring, how would she quantify that? i can bet you if would be a fairly difficult question to answer. perhaps she might say something along the lines of "it takes to long between batters," or "there's not enough scoring," but more likely she would say "its just boring." one of the best games i've played this gen is fallout 3. a lot of people hate it with a passion. and many of them would have a hard time putting a finger on why they hate it. when you have any pursuit that is artistic, be it music, art, literature, games (yes, i consider game design artistic) you'll have people with varying opinions. again, when someone says "anyone who says crysis is generic is trolling," i find that a bit vindictive. don't you?[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="6matt6"] Wow. You have a huge problem with reading peoples posts don't you? Or at least understanding them.Dataleak
I have no problem with someone disliking Crysis, but calling it generic is another story. I have no interest in Baseball, and personally find it one of the most boringest sports, but I don't call it generic.
so if i said i didn't like it, it changes the entire game?[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]
I have asked you time and time again, over days, over pages, to simply elaborate on your accusations.
What is it going to take?
i don't know how else i can word it for you. i didn't care for it. played a chunk of it, and i found it to be extremely uninteresting. what would you like me to say? the enemies are uninteresting? the nanosuit has been done before? what? i'd like to know.The feeling is mutual, I don't know how else I can word what I'm requesting from you, I've explained it multiple times. Other people witnessing our conversation don't seem to have a issue understanding what's being requested.
I don't know what else I can say without getting the usual response back.
yet i provided reasons for my argument.[QUOTE="clone01"]quite easily. i said that i thought (note thought - my opinion, not necessarily anyone else) crysis was generic. i've played it a bit, i don't see anything special about it. at least two posters here have questioned my reading comprehension, one has said i am trolling for holding that opinion. another one insists that if i don't provide a detailed explanation about why i don't care for a game, i'm trolling. in other words, if i don't hold the opinion of these posters, then i'm wrong. at least, that's what i have taken from the past few pages.
Do you know what generic means? How is THIS generic? It's game design is far from generic.It's like saying, I think that Apples are blue. Just my opinion.
telekinesis in bioshock? meh, not really that great, imo.
[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]Do you know what generic means? How is THIS generic? It's game design is far from generic.[QUOTE="clone01"]quite easily. i said that i thought (note thought - my opinion, not necessarily anyone else) crysis was generic. i've played it a bit, i don't see anything special about it. at least two posters here have questioned my reading comprehension, one has said i am trolling for holding that opinion. another one insists that if i don't provide a detailed explanation about why i don't care for a game, i'm trolling. in other words, if i don't hold the opinion of these posters, then i'm wrong. at least, that's what i have taken from the past few pages.
clone01
It's like saying, I think that Apples are blue. Just my opinion.
telekinesis in bioshock? meh, not really that great, imo.Well you did give 9.1 to Gears of War and that is as generic as can be, but it was fun i'll give you that (which I think this is what people are missing the point about a game)... I guess generic is not as bad as people make it out to be.
Well you did give 9.1 to Gears of War and that is as generic as can be, but it was fun i'll give you that (which I think this is what people are missing the point about a game)... I guess generic is not as bad as people make it out to be.
this is true...and honestly, i really don't understand why my opinion has caused such a stir. its just what i think, and i certainly don't expect anyone to agree with me if they don't want to.Well you did give 9.1 to Gears of War and that is as generic as can be, but it was fun i'll give you that (which I think this is what people are missing the point about a game)... I guess generic is not as bad as people make it out to be.
this is true...and honestly, i really don't understand why my opinion has caused such a stir. its just what i think, and i certainly don't expect anyone to agree with me if they don't want to. The reason it causes a stir is because so many times people pop in and out threads with a 'Hey this game is generic bye'. People feel that they don't have to justify their statements and its annoying.[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]this is true...and honestly, i really don't understand why my opinion has caused such a stir. its just what i think, and i certainly don't expect anyone to agree with me if they don't want to.Well you did give 9.1 to Gears of War and that is as generic as can be, but it was fun i'll give you that (which I think this is what people are missing the point about a game)... I guess generic is not as bad as people make it out to be.
clone01
Ok, I am going to have a go at this. I have read the arguments back and forth in this thread and I have a question for you. Why did you come in this thread and make a post about Crysis if you were not willing to explain/elaborate on your post? Now I played the demo for Crysis and did not find the game all that enjoyable, but I would never pop into a thread and post a message saying "Crysis is crap" without at least explaining why I thought it was so. That is all anyone has asked of you, while most of your reply boils down to "it is my opinion" as if opinions can not be questioned or are somehow unexplainable.
If you are going to make a post calling Crysis generic then I (and others) would expect you to at the very least explain why you think it is generic. The only time you even made an attempt at this was when you stated that you thought the whole "man in armor suit" was generic, but I have to say that at least in Crysis I could see no other way they could have explained all the game mechanics in it any other way than "a man in an armored suit" so using that as your whole defence for calling Crysis generic is a little bit of a stretch.
Ok, I am going to have a go at this. I have read the arguments back and forth in this thread and I have a question for you. Why did you come in this thread and make a post about Crysis if you were not willing to explain/elaborate on your post? Now I played the demo for Crysis and did not find the game all that enjoyable, but I would never pop into a thread and post a message saying "Crysis is crap" without at least explaining why I thought it was so. That is all anyone has asked of you, while most of your reply boils down to "it is my opinion" as if opinions can not be questioned or are somehow unexplainable.If you are going to make a post calling Crysis generic then I (and others) would expect you to at the very least explain why you think it is generic. The only time you even made an attempt at this was when you stated that you thought the whole "man in armor suit" was generic, but I have to say that at least in Crysis I could see no other way they could have explained all the game mechanics in it any other way than "a man in an armored suit" so using that as your whole defence for calling Crysis generic is a little bit of a stretch.
Philmon
i've elaborated a couple of times, and used some analogies to explain my position. is it so alien of a concept that somebody just doesn't like something, because, well, they just don't like it? but okay, i'll try again...super soldier, hmm, bit familiar. man in a nanosuit (sure, you can manipulate the suit to do different things, but that, again, has been done countless times before). modifiable weapons...eh? i guess its a bit innovative that you can do it on the fly, but i can't even keep track of how many games let you do this. i will say the scope of the envioronment and, of course, the visuals are impressive. but that certainly wasn't enough to keep me enthralled. and again, people seem to just be swarming me over this. i've never once said that "teh crysis is terrible," i've never suggested that people are wrong for liking the game (although people here have no problem telling me i'm wrong for not liking it). i have offered a viewpoint. now, i'm sorry if people are expecting some grand essay or explanation on the specifics of why i find the game generic (and i still wonder why people here even care so much what i think). sorry, i could sit down, research it, and give you examples of past games that have functions and elements similar to crysis, but i frankly don't feel like expending the effort. everyone seems to be under the assumption that using the term "generic" is a measurable statement of fact. but after looking it up, i don't see one instance where that word can be used in any quantifiable context (unless using the "generic" definition of food products). and yes, an opinion is an opinion. by constantly asking for explanations (which i have given, though apparently not to everyone's satisfaction), it can be interpreted as an attack on my viewpoint. oh, and i never said "crysis is crap."
[QUOTE="Philmon"] Ok, I am going to have a go at this. I have read the arguments back and forth in this thread and I have a question for you. Why did you come in this thread and make a post about Crysis if you were not willing to explain/elaborate on your post? Now I played the demo for Crysis and did not find the game all that enjoyable, but I would never pop into a thread and post a message saying "Crysis is crap" without at least explaining why I thought it was so. That is all anyone has asked of you, while most of your reply boils down to "it is my opinion" as if opinions can not be questioned or are somehow unexplainable.
If you are going to make a post calling Crysis generic then I (and others) would expect you to at the very least explain why you think it is generic. The only time you even made an attempt at this was when you stated that you thought the whole "man in armor suit" was generic, but I have to say that at least in Crysis I could see no other way they could have explained all the game mechanics in it any other way than "a man in an armored suit" so using that as your whole defence for calling Crysis generic is a little bit of a stretch.
clone01
i've elaborated a couple of times, and used some analogies to explain my position. is it so alien of a concept that somebody just doesn't like something, because, well, they just don't like it? but okay, i'll try again...super soldier, hmm, bit familiar. man in a nanosuit (sure, you can manipulate the suit to do different things, but that, again, has been done countless times before). modifiable weapons...eh? i guess its a bit innovative that you can do it on the fly, but i can't even keep track of how many games let you do this. i will say the scope of the envioronment and, of course, the visuals are impressive. but that certainly wasn't enough to keep me enthralled. and again, people seem to just be swarming me over this. i've never once said that "teh crysis is terrible," i've never suggested that people are wrong for liking the game (although people here have no problem telling me i'm wrong for not liking it). i have offered a viewpoint. now, i'm sorry if people are expecting some grand essay or explanation on the specifics of why i find the game generic (and i still wonder why people here even care so much what i think). sorry, i could sit down, research it, and give you examples of past games that have functions and elements similar to crysis, but i frankly don't feel like expending the effort. everyone seems to be under the assumption that using the term "generic" is a measurable statement of fact. but after looking it up, i don't see one instance where that word can be used in any quantifiable context (unless using the "generic" definition of food products). and yes, an opinion is an opinion. by constantly asking for explanations (which i have given, though apparently not to everyone's satisfaction), it can be interpreted as an attack on my viewpoint. oh, and i never said "crysis is crap."
No one has said that you can not dislike the game, hell I have stated that I did not like the demo, but that is not what you said. You called the game generic which is a judgment call on the game. If you are going to do so, then you should be ready to defend that call. For example, a person may like the artstyle of, lets say, Halo 3 over Crysis, but if that person comes on SW and says Halo 3 looks better than Crysis, he better be willing to back up that claim.
Again you mention the super soldier thing, but the fact of the matter is that almost all games have such a contrivance not only FPS'. You will be hard pressed to find a game that does not have such a contrivance, be it an FPS, TPS, RPG or Platformer, it is the nature of games. The reason I am only focusing on the "super soldier/nanosuit" part of your reply is because it is the only part which actually deals with your first statement calling Crysis "generic" (which is what started this whole thing).
I am sorry you feel you are being attacked, but I do not believe that was the intention of those asking you to explain your statement. The whole point of message boards is to debate/argue/discuss, and if you do not elaborate on what you have written how is that to happen?
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