Crysis vs Uncharted 2 graphics

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#251 killzowned24
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Meh, just as i said every great crysis pic has zero proof how it ran in realtime.
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#252 KingsMessenger
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Meh, just as i said every great crysis pic has zero proof how it ran in realtime.killzowned24

Fine. Gimme 30 minutes


I will download this map:

And get you your damn "framerate"

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#253 Hanass
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Meh, just as i said every great crysis pic has zero proof how it ran in realtime.killzowned24

OMFG, is this a ****ing joke? Those screens look exactly like mine, but somehow mine suck? Or is it because you got owned for the 10th time in this thread, you couldn't admit it so you said they looked bad? You still haven't answered.

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#254 Danm_999
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Meh, just as i said every great crysis pic has zero proof how it ran in realtime.killzowned24
What, even the ones made with FRAPS? :S
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#255 nervmeister
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This so-called "debate" really needs to be put out of its misery.
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#256 Hanass
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This so-called "debate" really needs to be put out of its misery.nervmeister

This isn't a debate, this is a guy trying to save his ass.

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#257 mitu123
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[QUOTE="KingsMessenger"]

[QUOTE="BlackTragedy"]

yes crysis looks better. But I tired of ppl saying its miles and light years ahead of others games. Its not. It looks better but its not in its own league. just at the top

killzowned24

You are right. It is quite a bit ahead, but it isn't nearly as much as some people claim it is.

However, Crysis MODS are lightyears ahead.

Crytek, despite being great technically and doing a good job at using their tech in terms of art, wasted a TON of potential within their engine.

Modders have proven this time and again. The right adjustments and modifications to the game can make it FAR better looking graphically, not to mention many times actually improving performance. The ToD mods are just one example of that. Go further and start having modders design different levels and really using the engine to push the ART, and good lord you end up with stuff like this:

I highly doubt they are real as there is not a single jag even on the grass and again how many people could even be able to play it? I highly doubt anyone here or they would already posted a pic showing the framerate with looking as good to prove me wrong.

Er, you know PC can do 16xAA and more, like 24xAA, which gets rid of jaggies.

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#258 Hanass
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[QUOTE="killzowned24"]

[QUOTE="KingsMessenger"]

You are right. It is quite a bit ahead, but it isn't nearly as much as some people claim it is.

However, Crysis MODS are lightyears ahead.

Crytek, despite being great technically and doing a good job at using their tech in terms of art, wasted a TON of potential within their engine.

Modders have proven this time and again. The right adjustments and modifications to the game can make it FAR better looking graphically, not to mention many times actually improving performance. The ToD mods are just one example of that. Go further and start having modders design different levels and really using the engine to push the ART, and good lord you end up with stuff like this:

mitu123

I highly doubt they are real as there is not a single jag even on the grass and again how many people could even be able to play it? I highly doubt anyone here or they would already posted a pic showing the framerate with looking as good to prove me wrong.

Er, you know PC can do 16xAA and more, like 24xAA, which gets rid of jaggies.

But then nobody can run it. It turns out most people can run it, so it looks bad. Some screens look good, but nobody can run it. Wait, something's wrong here...

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#259 DethSkematik
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"Technically," Uncharted 2, since I can't get Crysis to run like that on my PC (although Medium isn't a lightweight either) :P.
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#260 KingsMessenger
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Well that "Tech demo" map sucks... Doesn't even have a .cry file in the download so you can't use it even if you wanted to.

So... I guess we will have to settle for a few videos:

Vid 1(Tech Demo Map)

Vid 2(Different Map)

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#261 nervmeister
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[QUOTE="nervmeister"]This so-called "debate" really needs to be put out of its misery.Hanass

This isn't a debate, this is a guy trying to save his ass.

Okay. Let's call it a filibuster, then. :P
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#262 batman_is_aweso
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Seriously. No. Crysis is still graphics king. : |AAllxxjjnn

im a cow and i think uncharted 2 isnt even in the same galazy of graphics as crysis

lmao crysis looks beter than real life

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#263 KingsMessenger
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Oh no... I have shifted from Crymod's WIP SP map area to their FINISHED Multiplayer Maps. Lets have a looksie

OMG

1:

Here

2:

Here

Oh my....

So? Finally done?

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#264 04dcarraher
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Enough with these dumb Pc vs Console graphics threads. These current consoles*cant* I mean *cant* compare to what a Pc can do just because the consoles are a fixed system. Its been proven over and over that a 360 or PS3 cant match Pc even back in 2006. The consoles are stuck with 2004/2005 tech this is 2009 going on 2010 tech. Which included Direct x 10 and now 11. Arguing over artistic veiws is one thing but trying to compare to something thats has 2-4x the detail and power needed to run is crazy. Stop being in denial people,

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#265 killzowned24
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Oh no... I have shifted from Crymod's WIP SP map area to their FINISHED Multiplayer Maps. Lets have a looksieOh my....So? Finally done?

KingsMessenger
is that supposed to look amazing?
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#266 BlackTragedy
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depends which pc is running crysis. Uncharted2 > Crysis on some computers. However crysis has the potential to look the best and it shows it on med-high end pcs.

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#267 jettpack
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crysis over uncharted 2 no contest. i think we have all agreed on that for a long time. i also think we can probably agree though that at least right now uncharted 2 has the best graphics on the consoles? thats the real question. because its undistputed that crysis is the king.

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#268 deactivated-59d151f079814
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Crysis is superior and will always be superior in this comparison.. The PS3 doesn't have the hardware to produce something on Crysis's level.. It still looks great, but in all honesty I think Killzone 2 looked better..
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#269 beekayjay
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Eff it, I`m saying it. On a technical level, Crysis is incredibly impressive. No real time engine has come that close to emulating a Photorealistic environment. ARTISTICALLY speaking, however, it is all incredibly subjective. Personally, as photorealistic as the environments could be in Crysis, on a strict level of general visual appeal, they were kind of bland. Sunny beaches and wooded mountain terrain. A lot of it. Sorry but that hardly blows my socks off and doesn`t really do much to set the tone for the game or atmosphere. All this is completely subjective. If you think Crysis WAS artistically as pleasing as say SF4 or LBP or even Gears, then thats a totally legitimate personal opinion. My point: you can`t argue art.
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#270 deactivated-5cf4b2c19c4ab
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here is what crysis looks like on my $400 pc, these are the settings i actually play at, not maxing out for pristine shots with 2fps.

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#271 Merex760
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I can't believe this thread has gone on for this long. It should of been closed back on the day it was made. You can't even compare the two. Uncharted 2 is clearly better.

/sarcasm

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#272 majestix1988
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oh well bored thread always repeating.........its just never give up........all player has different perspective or game to play(some hate FPS some love 3PS)

so....its only graphics...sheeesh....its a view but its artificial....that you can forget easily

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#273 Mograine
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depends which pc is running crysis. Uncharted2 > Crysis on some computers. However crysis has the potential to look the best and it shows it on med-high end pcs.

BlackTragedy

Nice logic you got there.

So what happens if I run Uncharted 2 on Playstation?

I mean, do you really believe in what you said :roll: ?

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#274 Ondoval
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I would encourage to look up at this vids to a more cabal knowledge about both games and his technical features.

-The first one is the Crysis Warhead chapter 6, "From Hell's Heart", a.k.a. "the train level"; the first vid is captured with FRAPS, whole the other two are two screeners of the same level from my own PC:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8XW1cls2Gg



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvAo28YPxU8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZmtVFIGUkQ

...As anyone can look, the size of the map in huge, and you're not confined to go in the train, since at any time you can jump to the ground and even steal a jeep and ride along with the train or even go on ahead; of course, the train offers a substantial advantage: heavy machineguns and auto cannons with unlimited ammunition. Also, take into consideration the physics: colapsable huts, destructable trees, vehicles can be overturned if you shoot the tires, hellicopters can lost the control and crash interacting with the environments, etc.

Then look at the Uncharted 2 "Locomotion" level, "the train level" :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oG0ZHRfvdlg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3wSy6Mxabc

As cool as the environments looks, the level is not more than a corridor: a simple "on rails" linear level in that you can't jump from the train to the ground or interact with the landscape in any form, with cool water and detailed textures in the train but dull vegetation and elemental physics. Is as limited as the Train Wreck level in Gears Of War:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wa93fnn6Twk

...So please, don't waste words about how Uncharted 2 can fight against Crysis in terms of graphics AND gameplay: in BOTH aspects Crysis is way ahead in his core features and in terms of what can the gfame provide to the players. I still think that U2 is a awesome game with state-of-the-art acting and superb art design, but still very limited compared to Crysis & Warhead.

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#275 deactivated-58319077a6477
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comparing a PC game to a CONSOLE game is not right, especially when using Crysis.
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#277 Tessellation
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[QUOTE="KingsMessenger"]

Oh no... I have shifted from Crymod's WIP SP map area to their FINISHED Multiplayer Maps. Lets have a looksieOh my....So? Finally done?

killzowned24
is that supposed to look amazing?

Is uncharted 2 supposed to look amazing 2? because after playing crysis and get on uc2 my eyes kind of bleed.
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#278 Chaos_HL21
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depends which pc is running crysis. Uncharted2 > Crysis on some computers. However crysis has the potential to look the best and it shows it on med-high end pcs.

BlackTragedy

The TV, and type of connection also helps Uncharted 2. Half Life 2>Uncharted 2 on some TVs (10" Black and White ones). This agrument doesn't really work, because you don't really need a beefy computer to run Crysis so it looks better than Uncharted 2 (now to get up to the higher settings you do need more power)

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#279 Arach666
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I would encourage to look up at this vids to a more cabal knowledge about both games and his technical features.

-The first one is the Crysis Warhead chapter 6, "From Hell's Heart", a.k.a. "the train level"; the first vid is captured with FRAPS, whole the other two are two screeners of the same level from my own PC:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8XW1cls2Gg



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvAo28YPxU8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZmtVFIGUkQ

...As anyone can look, the size of the map in huge, and you're not confined to go in the train, since at any time you can jump to the ground and even steal a jeep and ride along with the train or even go on ahead; of course, the train offers a substantial advantage: heavy machineguns and auto cannons with unlimited ammunition. Also, take into consideration the physics: colapsable huts, destructable trees, vehicles can be overturned if you shoot the tires, hellicopters can lost the control and crash interacting with the environments, etc.

Then look at the Uncharted 2 "Locomotion" level, "the train level" :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oG0ZHRfvdlg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3wSy6Mxabc

As cool as the environments looks, the level is not more than a corridor: a simple "on rails" linear level in that you can't jump from the train to the ground or interact with the landscape in any form, with cool water and detailed textures in the train but dull vegetation and elemental physics. Is as limited as the Train Wreck level in Gears Of War:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wa93fnn6Twk

...So please, don't waste words about how Uncharted 2 can fight against Crysis in terms of graphics AND gameplay: in BOTH aspects Crysis is way ahead in his core features and in terms of what can the gfame provide to the players. I still think that U2 is a awesome game with state-of-the-art acting and superb art design, but still very limited compared to Crysis & Warhead.

Ondoval

You speak the truth,my friend.

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#280 ronvalencia
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[QUOTE="BlackTragedy"]

depends which pc is running crysis. Uncharted2 > Crysis on some computers. However crysis has the potential to look the best and it shows it on med-high end pcs.

It depends on how many PCs with Geforce 8800 GTX/GT/9600/9700/9800GT/250GT/260/285 or Radeon HD 2900/38x0/46x0/47x0/48x0/57x0/58x0/59x0.
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#281 KHAndAnime
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Mmmmm.....

1

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#283 -Tretiak
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Why was this thread resurrected? Honestly, just when Cows were quite enough for me to forget how arrogant they are.

AnnoyedDragon

Exactly. Ugh. It seems to them that the awards success has somehow given this argument more legitimacy. :roll: GIVE IT UP COWS! Crysis is graphics king. Get over it.

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#284 ronvalencia
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Mmmmm.....

... KHAndAnime

Uncharted 2 from HDMI feed  Uncharted 2 in photo mode  Reference 1. Eurogamer.

Overall, the scene is not near photo-realistic or close to real life.

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#285 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator  Online
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Crysis and Crysis Warhead both look phenomenal. Trying to compare the two... is like a third grader, a la Uncharted 2, trying to fight a heavy weight UFC fighter.
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#286 Vaasman
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[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"]

Mmmmm.....

... ronvalencia

Uncharted 2 from HDMI feed Uncharted 2 in photo mode Reference 1. Eurogamer.

Hey what's wrong with you! You can't post non-bullshots of Uncharted 2! That's not allowed!

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#287 ronvalencia
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[QUOTE="ronvalencia"][QUOTE="KHAndAnime"]

Mmmmm.....

... Vaasman

Uncharted 2 from HDMI feed Uncharted 2 in photo mode Reference 1. Eurogamer.

Hey what's wrong with you! You can't post non-bullshots of Uncharted 2! That's not allowed!

Early screenshot of CryEngine3 for PS3.

The size, scope and details already beating UC2.The plants are procedurally animated with physics.

Bloom andglobal illuminationtype effects from light sources.

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#288 -Tretiak
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[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"] Uncharted 2 from HDMI feed Uncharted 2 in photo mode Reference 1. Eurogamer.ronvalencia

Hey what's wrong with you! You can't post non-bullshots of Uncharted 2! That's not allowed!

Early screenshot of CryEngine3 for PS3.

The size, scope and details already beating UC2.The plants are procedurally animated with physics.

And please Cows, don't try to use this as proof that PS3 can match Crysis. Note the significant lack of detail in the distance.

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#289 ronvalencia
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[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]Hey what's wrong with you! You can't post non-bullshots of Uncharted 2! That's not allowed!

-Tretiak

Early screenshot of CryEngine3 for PS3.

The size, scope and details already beating UC2.The plants are procedurally animated with physics.

And please Cows, don't try to use this as proof that PS3 can match Crysis. Note the significant lack of detail in the distance.

Crytek already has stated that the PC is their strongest gaming platform. I'm using early CryEngine3 PS3 to smack PS3 UC2.

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[QUOTE="-Tretiak"]

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]

Early screenshot of CryEngine3 for PS3.

The size, scope and details already beating UC2.The plants are procedurally animated with physics.

ronvalencia

And please Cows, don't try to use this as proof that PS3 can match Crysis. Note the significant lack of detail in the distance.

Crytek already has stated that the PC is their strongest gaming platform. I'm using early CryEngine3 PS3 to smack PS3 UC2.

Yeah I know lol, I'm not criticizing your post. Just pointing out the lack of detail so that Cows won't try to claim that the PS3 can match the Crysis PC environments.

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#291 ronvalencia
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[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]

[QUOTE="-Tretiak"]

And please Cows, don't try to use this as proof that PS3 can match Crysis. Note the significant lack of detail in the distance.

-Tretiak

Crytek already has stated that the PC is their strongest gaming platform. I'm using early CryEngine3 PS3 to smack PS3 UC2.

Yeah I know lol, I'm not criticizing your post. Just pointing out the lack of detail so that Cows won't try to claim that the PS3 can match the Crysis PC environments.

My point is, UC2 engine is inferior against PS3's work-in-progress CryEngine3 let alone PC's CryEngine2 or CryEngine3. CryEngine2 currently being used beyond gaming i.e. use for real time architecture (as in buildings) demonstrations. UC2's engine is just a toy.

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[QUOTE="-Tretiak"]

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"] Crytek already has stated that the PC is their strongest gaming platform. I'm using early CryEngine3 PS3 to smack PS3 UC2.

ronvalencia

Yeah I know lol, I'm not criticizing your post. Just pointing out the lack of detail so that Cows won't try to claim that the PS3 can match the Crysis PC environments.

My point is, UC2 engine is inferior against PS3's work-in-progress CryEngine3 let alone PC's CryEngine2 or CryEngine3. CryEngine2 currently is use beyond gaming i.e. use for real time architecture (as in buildings) demonstrations. UC2's engine is just a toy.

...I know.

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#293 killzowned24
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[QUOTE="-Tretiak"]

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"] Crytek already has stated that the PC is their strongest gaming platform. I'm using early CryEngine3 PS3 to smack PS3 UC2.

ronvalencia

Yeah I know lol, I'm not criticizing your post. Just pointing out the lack of detail so that Cows won't try to claim that the PS3 can match the Crysis PC environments.

My point is, UC2 engine is inferior against PS3's work-in-progress CryEngine3 let alone PC's CryEngine2 or CryEngine3. CryEngine2 currently being used beyond gaming i.e. use for real time architecture (as in buildings) demonstrations. UC2's engine is just a toy.

lolz, a tech demo with zero AI vs multiplayer pics.
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#294 WinnerByTKO
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Crysis has both better gameplay and graphics than Uncharted 2. Please stop these comparisons.

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#295 SPYDER0416
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Crysis has both better gameplay and graphics than Uncharted 2. Please stop these comparisons.

WinnerByTKO

Oh high, graphics, yes. Gameplay, hahahaha! No, and definitely not story.

This topic is WAY too old to still be alive.

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#296 Mograine
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Crysis has both better gameplay and graphics than Uncharted 2. Please stop these comparisons.

SPYDER0416

Oh high, graphics, yes. Gameplay, hahahaha!

Yes, gameplay.

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#297 chunkymonkey313
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well the demo of u2, i saw a lot of jaggies and the ground was awful!!!!!!!!!! plez som 1 tell me the full version is a lot better or else ppl r overhyping u2 graphics a LOT
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#298 tagyhag
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[QUOTE="WinnerByTKO"]

Crysis has both better gameplay and graphics than Uncharted 2. Please stop these comparisons.

SPYDER0416

Oh high, graphics, yes. Gameplay, hahahaha! No, and definitely not story.

This topic is WAY too old to still be alive.

What's wrong with the gameplay? Just because it looks good it doesn't mean that the gameplay is lacking. And story? It's basically crappy story vs. crappy story.
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#299 ronvalencia
Member since 2008 • 29612 Posts

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Yeah I know lol, I'm not criticizing your post. Just pointing out the lack of detail so that Cows won't try to claim that the PS3 can match the Crysis PC environments.

killzowned24

My point is, UC2 engine is inferior against PS3's work-in-progress CryEngine3 let alone PC's CryEngine2 or CryEngine3. CryEngine2 currently being used beyond gaming i.e. use for real time architecture (as in buildings) demonstrations. UC2's engine is just a toy.

lolz, a tech demo with zero AI vs multiplayer pics.

Procedural physics is already enabled with CryEngine3 tech demo.

Example of procedural physics is tree's interaction with player's weapon's fire. In this scene, god-rays also interacts with tree's leaves.

If you read http://http.developer.nvidia.com/GPUGems3/gpugems3_ch16.html

With CryEngine2, note the procedural animation/physics with vegetation and it'srunning on the GPU.

From recent CryEngine3 demo i.e. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Kvl31g77Z8

Major features are
1. Integrated voxel objects.
2 Streaming game world.
3. Advanced AI.
4. Deferred Lighting.
5. Real time global illumination.

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#300 PublicNuisance
Member since 2009 • 4582 Posts

[QUOTE="WinnerByTKO"]

Crysis has both better gameplay and graphics than Uncharted 2. Please stop these comparisons.

SPYDER0416

Oh high, graphics, yes. Gameplay, hahahaha! No, and definitely not story.

This topic is WAY too old to still be alive.

ON Crysis I could scale a cliff for a half hour to sneak in the back way, I could throw a dude through a house, I could killa guy froma KM away. Can you do any of this on UC or UC2 ?