Crytek: Next-gen used games block would be absolutely awesome

it seems hard to support crytek these days

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it seems hard to support crytek these days

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TheShadowLord07

Hahaha...Oh Crytek. Silly you.

I'm sure they would like it. More money for publishers and in most cases, more money for them. I think its a very greedy move if consoles do block used games but personally I would not be affected. I buy my games new or digitally

They're not the only ones that like it.

Whatever.
Used games ftw.

Of course they'll like it. It's more money in their pockets. I hope this isn't the case next gen. If it is. Well...

Cry me a river, b!tch.

You wanna know why people didn't pay for Crysis 2? Because it sucked ass.

All developers are in favor of it in one form or another.

He is right. This is the only software market where there are second hand markets. Not even PC gaming has that. Only console gaming.

Watch them try it next gen and have sales of games dramatically drop as well as the cost of development rise. That'll be a kicker to watch all the big publishers scramble and damage control as their bread and butter fails to provide for them. I've said it before and I'll say it again. PC will never have any danger of dying, console gaming has a much larger chance and something like this will magnify it.

All developers are in favor of it in one form or another.

He is right. This is the only software market where there are second hand markets. Not even PC gaming has that. Only console gaming.

Wasdie

[QUOTE="TheShadowLord07"]

it seems hard to support crytek these days

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SF_KiLLaMaN

These arguments are ridiculous; if I pay for a game, if I lay down the money for a physical game, there's no reason I shouldn't be able to let my friend borrow it if I like, or sell it to a third-party store so that they can sell it back to someone at less than full retail. I've been f*cked enough buying new games (Far Cry 2, LA Noire, Dragon Age, Fable II) to sympathize with someone who'd like to pay $30 or $40 rather than $60 right out of the gate.

[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"]Blocking used games will be good for two reasons. 1. Developers will make more money to make better games (assuming of course) 2. It will bring down Gamestop's evil empire of buying used games for very cheap and then selling them for only $5 less than new. They make a ton of profits off people who are too cheap to pay $5 more to actually support the developer. Although technically, they are just cashing in on the stupidity of the average consumer. rockydog1111

Yeah, because budgets correspond directly with quality, amirite?

All developers are in favor of it in one form or another.

He is right. This is the only software market where there are second hand markets. Not even PC gaming has that. Only console gaming.

Wasdie

Cry me a river, b!tch.

You wanna know why people didn't pay for Crysis 2? Because it sucked ass.

DarkLink77

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

Cry me a river, b!tch.

You wanna know why people didn't pay for Crysis 2? Because it sucked ass.

TheShadowLord07

[QUOTE="TheShadowLord07"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

Cry me a river, b!tch.

You wanna know why people didn't pay for Crysis 2? Because it sucked ass.

nintendoboy16

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"][QUOTE="TheShadowLord07"]is that towards me or crytek?DarkLink77

Blocking used games will be good for two reasons. 1. Developers will make more money to make better games (assuming of course) 2. It will bring down Gamestop's evil empire of buying used games for very cheap and then selling them for only $5 less than new. They make a ton of profits off people who are too cheap to pay $5 more to actually support the developer. Although technically, they are just cashing in on the stupidity of the average consumer. SF_KiLLaMaN

LOL, no, it won't.

1.) The money goes to Gamestop regardless of what condition you buy the game in. Devs get paid by the Publisher, Publisher gets paid when they sell the games (among other things) to the Retailers, the Retailers get paid when we buy the game from them.

In either case, the publishers are all in bed with the retailers anyway: Retailer sells used game, retailer uses money from used game sales to pay for exclusive pre-order DLC bonus. The Publisher gets the money regardless.

2.) Do you realize that by having used games banned, that they'll be coming up with more restrictions (even more worse than On-disc DLC & Online passes), as well as never lowering prices of their games even when they're years old, due to no competition from the used game market? You need to think about that.

[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"]Blocking used games will be good for two reasons. 1. Developers will make more money to make better games (assuming of course) 2. It will bring down Gamestop's evil empire of buying used games for very cheap and then selling them for only $5 less than new. They make a ton of profits off people who are too cheap to pay $5 more to actually support the developer. Although technically, they are just cashing in on the stupidity of the average consumer. Shinobi120

LOL, no, it won't.

1.) The money goes to Gamestop regardless of what condition you buy the game in. Devs get paid by the Publisher, Publisher gets paid when they sell the games (among other things) to the Retailers, the Retailers get paid when we buy the game from them.

In either case, the publishers are all in bed with the retailers anyway: Retailer sells used game, retailer uses money from used game sales to pay for exclusive pre-order DLC bonus. The Publisher gets the money regardless.

2.) Do you realize that by having used games banned, that they'll be coming up with more restrictions (even more worse than On-disc DLC & Online passes), as well as never lowering prices of their games even when they're years old, due to no competition from the used game market? You need to think about that.

2. Now you're just making up stuff, claiming BS things without any facts to back it up. There is no such thing as competition from the used game market, whatever the developers price their games at, used copies will ALWAYS be lower. There is no competition to be had.

Cry me a river, b!tch.

You wanna know why people didn't pay for Crysis 2? Because it sucked ass.

DarkLink77

Duke Nukem sucks.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

Cry me a river, b!tch.

You wanna know why people didn't pay for Crysis 2? Because it sucked ass.

Mr_BillGates

Duke Nukem sucks.

[QUOTE="Shinobi120"]

[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"]Blocking used games will be good for two reasons. 1. Developers will make more money to make better games (assuming of course) 2. It will bring down Gamestop's evil empire of buying used games for very cheap and then selling them for only $5 less than new. They make a ton of profits off people who are too cheap to pay $5 more to actually support the developer. Although technically, they are just cashing in on the stupidity of the average consumer. SF_KiLLaMaN

LOL, no, it won't.

1.) The money goes to Gamestop regardless of what condition you buy the game in. Devs get paid by the Publisher, Publisher gets paid when they sell the games (among other things) to the Retailers, the Retailers get paid when we buy the game from them.

In either case, the publishers are all in bed with the retailers anyway: Retailer sells used game, retailer uses money from used game sales to pay for exclusive pre-order DLC bonus. The Publisher gets the money regardless.

2.) Do you realize that by having used games banned, that they'll be coming up with more restrictions (even more worse than On-disc DLC & Online passes), as well as never lowering prices of their games even when they're years old, due to no competition from the used game market? You need to think about that.

2. Now you're just making up stuff, claiming BS things without any facts to back it up. There is no such thing as competition from the used game market, whatever the developers price their games at, used copies will ALWAYS be lower. There is no competition to be had.

Really? The publishers/developers don't exactly get the full $60 off of each new copy being sold.

Plus the used gaming market helps keep the developers/publishers in check with the prices. That's what competition is. Do you really think, that if the used gaming market ever evaporates, that they're going to be all nice to you & give you much lower prices of their games & not give you more restrictions? If so, then you're fooling yourself.

This is just another way for devs to try and sqweeze more money from people, it's happening everywhere weither we like it or not. Sony has stupid onlinen passes on some games, EA get's away with alot of other crap, MS keeps charging for online play, it just doesn't end.

And Crytek are full of sh!t, Hermits over exaggeated the Crysis games. They may look good but that's about it, the gameplay and everything else is just mediocre garbage.

I doubt Hermtis really liked the games either, they just liked to pretend to so they can throw around a bunch of BS photo shopped improved images so they can try and justify their purchase over the "console pesants.

And Crytek are full of sh!t, Hermits over exaggeated the Crysis games. They may look good but that's about it, the gameplay and everything else is just mediocre garbage.

ShadowMoses900

^How you can tell when someone has never played the original Crysis.

[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"]

[QUOTE="Shinobi120"]

LOL, no, it won't.

1.) The money goes to Gamestop regardless of what condition you buy the game in. Devs get paid by the Publisher, Publisher gets paid when they sell the games (among other things) to the Retailers, the Retailers get paid when we buy the game from them.

In either case, the publishers are all in bed with the retailers anyway: Retailer sells used game, retailer uses money from used game sales to pay for exclusive pre-order DLC bonus. The Publisher gets the money regardless.

2.) Do you realize that by having used games banned, that they'll be coming up with more restrictions (even more worse than On-disc DLC & Online passes), as well as never lowering prices of their games even when they're years old, due to no competition from the used game market? You need to think about that.

Shinobi120

2. Now you're just making up stuff, claiming BS things without any facts to back it up. There is no such thing as competition from the used game market, whatever the developers price their games at, used copies will ALWAYS be lower. There is no competition to be had.

Really? The publishers/developers don't exactly get the full $60 off of each new copy being sold.

Plus the used gaming market helps keep the developers/publishers in check with the prices. That's what competition is. Do you really think, that if the used gaming market ever evaporates, that they're going to be all nice to you & give you much lower prices of their games & not give you more restrictions? If so, then you're fooling yourself.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="nintendoboy16"] I think he's talking about Crytek.nintendoboy16

[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"]

[QUOTE="Shinobi120"]

LOL, no, it won't.

1.) The money goes to Gamestop regardless of what condition you buy the game in. Devs get paid by the Publisher, Publisher gets paid when they sell the games (among other things) to the Retailers, the Retailers get paid when we buy the game from them.

In either case, the publishers are all in bed with the retailers anyway: Retailer sells used game, retailer uses money from used game sales to pay for exclusive pre-order DLC bonus. The Publisher gets the money regardless.

2.) Do you realize that by having used games banned, that they'll be coming up with more restrictions (even more worse than On-disc DLC & Online passes), as well as never lowering prices of their games even when they're years old, due to no competition from the used game market? You need to think about that.

Shinobi120

2. Now you're just making up stuff, claiming BS things without any facts to back it up. There is no such thing as competition from the used game market, whatever the developers price their games at, used copies will ALWAYS be lower. There is no competition to be had.

Really? The publishers/developers don't exactly get the full $60 off of each new copy being sold.

Plus the used gaming market helps keep the developers/publishers in check with the prices. That's what competition is. Do you really think, that if the used gaming market ever evaporates, that they're going to be all nice to you & give you much lower prices of their games & not give you more restrictions? If so, then you're fooling yourself.

Used game market is not competition, if anything it's more like unloyal competition. They will always have the lowest prices since the products will cost way less for them. What makes competition in the industry is publisher vs. publisher.

[QUOTE="TheShadowLord07"]

it seems hard to support crytek these days

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SF_KiLLaMaN

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

And Crytek are full of sh!t, Hermits over exaggeated the Crysis games. They may look good but that's about it, the gameplay and everything else is just mediocre garbage.

DarkLink77

^How you can tell when someone has never played the original Crysis.

Fair enough, I never did play the origional. But the Crysis I played wasn't very good, Hermits talked about it like it was God, it was more like Satan lol. Aside from the graphics the game had no good qualities about it, not a single one.

All this "freedom" didn't really matter because the gameplay and mechanics were so bad, like how do they make a game so advanced but have such bad AI? Mabey the origional was better? I don't know, but I think a lot of devs are blinded by their success from their first games and then get lazy with the sequels.

That seems to be the case often this gen.