Dear Sheep, Buy a Better TV

[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="locopatho"] Is the WiiU a next gen console, coming out 7 years after the 360? Yes, it is. Why are you happy with Nintendo barely matching last gen machines :?

ActionRemix

I really don't care about the specs of the console because I think they are decent.I only have a 720P tv.

Today we have confirmation from one of your standardbearers that he doesn't know what he's talking about. If you're going to insist that it's not a big deal if 720p 30fps is the standard output for Wii U games, you should experience 1080p 60fps before you deride it as a "slight improvement."

Here's a 40" 1080p TV for $350:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Dynex%26%23153%3B---40%22-Class---LCD---1080p---60Hz---HDTV/2620821.p?skuId=2620821&productCategoryId=abcat0101001&id=1218340598798

While you're at it, ditch those composite cables for HDMI.

http://www.amazon.com/Mediabridge-Ultra-Ethernet-Certified-Available/dp/B0019EHU8G/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1343237050&sr=1-1

I shudder to think that some of you are Wii-only and game at 480i.

P.S. Some of you should get some f-ckin' glasses!

http://www.lenscrafters.com/

[QUOTE="ActionRemix"]

[QUOTE="super600"]

I really don't care about the specs of the console because I think they are decent.I only have a 720P tv.

Heirren

Today we have confirmation from one of your standardbearers that he doesn't know what he's talking about. If you're going to insist that it's not a big deal if 720p 30fps is the standard output for Wii U games, you should experience 1080p 60fps before you deride it as a "slight improvement."

Here's a 40" 1080p TV for $350:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Dynex%26%23153%3B---40%22-Class---LCD---1080p---60Hz---HDTV/2620821.p?skuId=2620821&productCategoryId=abcat0101001&id=1218340598798

While you're at it, ditch those composite cables for HDMI.

http://www.amazon.com/Mediabridge-Ultra-Ethernet-Certified-Available/dp/B0019EHU8G/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1343237050&sr=1-1

I shudder to think that some of you are Wii-only and game at 480i.

P.S. Some of you should get some f-ckin' glasses!

http://www.lenscrafters.com/

[QUOTE="Heirren"][QUOTE="ActionRemix"]

Today we have confirmation from one of your standardbearers that he doesn't know what he's talking about. If you're going to insist that it's not a big deal if 720p 30fps is the standard output for Wii U games, you should experience 1080p 60fps before you deride it as a "slight improvement."

Here's a 40" 1080p TV for $350:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Dynex%26%23153%3B---40%22-Class---LCD---1080p---60Hz---HDTV/2620821.p?skuId=2620821&productCategoryId=abcat0101001&id=1218340598798

While you're at it, ditch those composite cables for HDMI.

http://www.amazon.com/Mediabridge-Ultra-Ethernet-Certified-Available/dp/B0019EHU8G/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1343237050&sr=1-1

I shudder to think that some of you are Wii-only and game at 480i.

P.S. Some of you should get some f-ckin' glasses!

http://www.lenscrafters.com/

ActionRemix

[QUOTE="Heirren"][QUOTE="ActionRemix"]

Today we have confirmation from one of your standardbearers that he doesn't know what he's talking about. If you're going to insist that it's not a big deal if 720p 30fps is the standard output for Wii U games, you should experience 1080p 60fps before you deride it as a "slight improvement."

Here's a 40" 1080p TV for $350:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Dynex%26%23153%3B---40%22-Class---LCD---1080p---60Hz---HDTV/2620821.p?skuId=2620821&productCategoryId=abcat0101001&id=1218340598798

While you're at it, ditch those composite cables for HDMI.

http://www.amazon.com/Mediabridge-Ultra-Ethernet-Certified-Available/dp/B0019EHU8G/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1343237050&sr=1-1

I shudder to think that some of you are Wii-only and game at 480i.

P.S. Some of you should get some f-ckin' glasses!

http://www.lenscrafters.com/

ActionRemix

again with the graphics dont matter argument, i see people proclaiming they say it then the sheep that actually say it. then when i ask them to show me what sheep they cant show me anybody

[QUOTE="ActionRemix"]

[QUOTE="Heirren"] You're linking to a Dynex tv? Honest truth here--I'd rather play wii at it's lower resolution on a nice 1920x1080 tv, than play a pc game in 1920x1080@60fps on a Dynex. Also, do they even produce interlaced sets anymore? Mario1331

again with the graphics dont matter argument, i see people proclaiming they say it then the sheep that actually say it. then when i ask them to show me what sheep they cant show me anybody

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

[QUOTE="locopatho"] How many times does it need to be said... The WiiU is NEXT GEN. Doing what LAST GEN consoles do isn't enough.ActionRemix

thats the thing it is doing it better with mandatory 720 and 1080p. its a moderate boost nothing life changing though.

wiiu games look good whoever think console gaming will look like the samaritan or illuminous engine is going to be greatly disappointed

or maybe its a lousy port

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

[QUOTE="ActionRemix"]I can't expect sheep to pay much for a TV when they insist graphics don't matter. Dynex is a good budget brand.

ActionRemix

again with the graphics dont matter argument, i see people proclaiming they say it then the sheep that actually say it. then when i ask them to show me what sheep they cant show me anybody

i want to see where he posted it,

[QUOTE="ActionRemix"]

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

thats the thing it is doing it better with mandatory 720 and 1080p. its a moderate boost nothing life changing though.

wiiu games look good whoever think console gaming will look like the samaritan or illuminous engine is going to be greatly disappointed

Mario1331

or maybe its a lousy port

[QUOTE="ActionRemix"]

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

again with the graphics dont matter argument, i see people proclaiming they say it then the sheep that actually say it. then when i ask them to show me what sheep they cant show me anybody

Mario1331

i want to see where he posted it,

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

[QUOTE="ActionRemix"]Exhibit A: super600p

ActionRemix

i want to see where he posted it,

did he say GRAPHICS dont matter though? he didnt which proves my point

Those cables are sh!t.

I tried playing Wii games on a HDTV. Looked horrible. Brother comes along saying I need those component cables. It's still horrible.
I just play them on a SDTV.

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

[QUOTE="ActionRemix"]Exhibit A: super600p

ActionRemix

i want to see where he posted it,

I didn't say graphics didn't matter idiot.I like games to look decent and to have good gameplay, but I don't like to much of a focus on graphics because it will increase development costs at times.You're a graphics whore TC.

dear cows and lems tell ms and sony to make a better console then the super nintendo until they can match that game library - you can just Stop posting stupid threads cause you and me know that the only other console that plays snes games is the wii ,

and wii has its own awsome library of games forget about the tv its about the games and it seams sony has had its way killing franchises like top gear-see top gear dare devil ps2, timesplitters by virtue of hazes failure , and how ms killed rare , ya thats right ,

you see every time nintendo is doing good you guys wanna try to bring them down to your standards - those standards being 75 percent first person shooters that are cod wanna bes , 25 percent open world gta clones and your yrly madden game no thanks i think nintendos fine dancing to the beat of its own drum ,,

now if you excuse me i have top gear 3000 right now , and did i mention top gear is alot better then gran turismo 5!

Oh dear. Forgive me for not being hip but top of the line HD graphics arent everything. As long as the games are awesome I couldnt care less if it were 1080p or 480p ... people are to obsessed with this HD stuff.

Oh dear. Forgive me for sounding like a tired old retro gamer but top of the line HD graphics arent everything. As long as the games are awesome I couldnt care less if it were 1080p or 480p ... people are to obsessed with this HD stuff.penpusher

True.

I shudder to think that some of you are Wii-only and game at 480i.

ActionRemix

[QUOTE="ActionRemix"]

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

i want to see where he posted it,

super600

I didn't say graphics didn't matter idiot.I like games to look decent and to have good gameplay, but I don't like to much of a focus on graphics because it will increase development costs at times.You're a graphics whore TC.

[QUOTE="ActionRemix"]

[QUOTE="Heirren"] You're linking to a Dynex tv? Honest truth here--I'd rather play wii at it's lower resolution on a nice 1920x1080 tv, than play a pc game in 1920x1080@60fps on a Dynex. Also, do they even produce interlaced sets anymore? Heirren

[QUOTE="Heirren"][QUOTE="ActionRemix"]I can't expect sheep to pay much for a TV when they insist graphics don't matter. Dynex is a good budget brand.

ultraking

I've seen the image quality of Dynex HDTVs side by side with other brands at Best Buy. They do look good. That's why I decided to buy a 24" one for my PC instead of a dedicated PC monitor. Both PC and console games looked good on it.

i already own a 42 inch panasonic plasma that does 1080p. i bought it when it was on sale last christmas from newegg. 300 dollars off. cost only 530. have the bluray player that matches it and hdmi cables obviously.

2560x1440 is spoiling me, 1080p is nothing special.

The idiots in this thread.Oh my.

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="Mario1331"]

who said it doesnt matter? all ive seen was people said there fine without it. Games dont go 720p or 1080p NOW so if the wiiu is its fine with them. some people are just fine with how games look now and i feel the opposite are being the ignorant ones.

Mario1331

thats the thing it is doing it better with mandatory 720 and 1080p. its a moderate boost nothing life changing though.

wiiu games look good whoever think console gaming will look like the samaritan or illuminous engine is going to be greatly disappointed

[QUOTE="penpusher"]Oh dear. Forgive me for sounding like a tired old retro gamer but top of the line HD graphics arent everything. As long as the games are awesome I couldnt care less if it were 1080p or 480p ... people are to obsessed with this HD stuff.super600

True.

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

[QUOTE="locopatho"] Agree 100%locopatho

who said it doesnt matter? all ive seen was people said there fine without it. Games dont go 720p or 1080p NOW so if the wiiu is its fine with them. some people are just fine with how games look now and i feel the opposite are being the ignorant ones.

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="Mario1331"]

who said it doesnt matter? all ive seen was people said there fine without it. Games dont go 720p or 1080p NOW so if the wiiu is its fine with them. some people are just fine with how games look now and i feel the opposite are being the ignorant ones.

m_machine024

Will the hardware get in the way of devs? YES. 1.5 GB is not nearly enough RAM. Devs will have to spend a lot of resources on optimization if they want to port PS4/720 games to Wii U. More likely they'll just leave the Wii U out entirely.

Unfortunately, PS4/720 will likely be able to do a lot more than Wii U

Will the hardware get in the way of devs? YES. 1.5 GB is not nearly enough RAM. Devs will have to spend a lot of resources on optimization if they want to port PS4/720 games to Wii U. More likely they'll just leave the Wii U out entirely.

ActionRemix

[QUOTE="ActionRemix"] Unfortunately, PS4/720 will likely be able to do a lot more than Wii U

Will the hardware get in the way of devs? YES. 1.5 GB is not nearly enough RAM. Devs will have to spend a lot of resources on optimization if they want to port PS4/720 games to Wii U. More likely they'll just leave the Wii U out entirely.

Heirren

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

[QUOTE="locopatho"] How many times does it need to be said... The WiiU is NEXT GEN. Doing what LAST GEN consoles do isn't enough.locopatho

thats the thing it is doing it better with mandatory 720 and 1080p. its a moderate boost nothing life changing though.

wiiu games look good whoever think console gaming will look like the samaritan or illuminous engine is going to be greatly disappointed

the wiiu is also streaming a tablet. i doubt if the ps4/720 are streaming tablets they will be around the same, nothing less then 720p most games at 1080

[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="penpusher"]Oh dear. Forgive me for sounding like a tired old retro gamer but top of the line HD graphics arent everything. As long as the games are awesome I couldnt care less if it were 1080p or 480p ... people are to obsessed with this HD stuff.locopatho

True.

nobody said this

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="super600"]

True.

Mario1331

nobody said this

[QUOTE="m_machine024"]

[QUOTE="locopatho"] How many times does it need to be said... The WiiU is NEXT GEN. Doing what LAST GEN consoles do isn't enough.ActionRemix

Will the hardware get in the way of devs? YES. 1.5 GB is not nearly enough RAM. Devs will have to spend a lot of resources on optimization if they want to port PS4/720 games to Wii U. More likely they'll just leave the Wii U out entirely.

I'm not getting a WiiU to play the multiplats on it simply because they will use the screen. Not at all (well maybe some in the future, who knows :P). Even if it's full of ports already. >_> PS4/720 should be sharing their multiplats and WiiU will have its own different gamepads exclusives concepts. And hopefully this time, the hardware won't get in the way of the different concepts devs bring. The Wii is a bit too weak. That's what I meant earlier. Wasn't talking about the multiplats.

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

[QUOTE="locopatho"] They shouldn't have killed off the Wii, and kept supporting it. You can't have it both ways... you can't say graphics/power don't matter, then go mad over a new console announcement...ActionRemix

nobody said this

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

[QUOTE="locopatho"] They shouldn't have killed off the Wii, and kept supporting it. You can't have it both ways... you can't say graphics/power don't matter, then go mad over a new console announcement...ActionRemix

nobody said this

[QUOTE="ActionRemix"]

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

nobody said this

Heirren

[QUOTE="Heirren"][QUOTE="ActionRemix"]You know that's bullsh-t.super600p has clearly stated that he's satisfied with 2005-level graphics. Sheep insist in every graphics thread that "art style" is this magic force that supercedes technological barriers of decade-old technology.

ActionRemix

[QUOTE="ActionRemix"]

[QUOTE="Heirren"] You're generalizing, but the statement is correct. There are properly made Genesis and SNES games that look better than some 360/PS3 games.Heirren

It pushes the TI 89 to the max.

Wii games look better with SDtv, big HDtv make the games look just even worse

[QUOTE="Heirren"][QUOTE="ActionRemix"]Maybe if you're playing the SNES games on PC and the 360 games on a standard dev TV. SNES resolution was less than 240i, 2 times worse than Youtube circa 2006. 240i is really, really bad.

ActionRemix

It pushes the TI 89 to the max.

[QUOTE="dRuGGeRnaUt"]Question for the Sheeples: If back when the SNES launched and competed with the Sega Genesis, if it had had the same graphics as the NES, do you think they would've been able to make the games they did?? Would you sit and say that it didn't matter then? Did graphics/power change gaming with the SNES vs the NES?? anyone that says "no" is in complete denial. Each step in tech they took, opened up more and more possibilities. =-=-= Seriously though, most of you sheep must not have been around. Did you guys also complain that when N64 came out, the extra graphics weren't important? What if N64 stayed minorly more powerful than a genesis and launched against the PS1?? what would you say then? It's all a f***ing joke. If graphics aren't important, why have consoles evolved at all? You don't need to bash graphics if you don't care, but please dont be ignorant and say they dont matter.goblaa

Well, considering that NES games are way more fun the genisis games on the whole, and considering that the NES sold way more than the SNES ever did, if nintendo had just remade the nes, it prolly would have still out sold the genisis and had more content to boot. Especially if the nes came with a controller that changed the way we play games, opening up many more gameplay oppertunites..

THough, I would miss the SNES...

There's no way you're serious about this statement whatsoever.

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="Mario1331"]

who said it doesnt matter? all ive seen was people said there fine without it. Games dont go 720p or 1080p NOW so if the wiiu is its fine with them. some people are just fine with how games look now and i feel the opposite are being the ignorant ones.

m_machine024

[QUOTE="goblaa"]

[QUOTE="dRuGGeRnaUt"]Question for the Sheeples: If back when the SNES launched and competed with the Sega Genesis, if it had had the same graphics as the NES, do you think they would've been able to make the games they did?? Would you sit and say that it didn't matter then? Did graphics/power change gaming with the SNES vs the NES?? anyone that says "no" is in complete denial. Each step in tech they took, opened up more and more possibilities. =-=-= Seriously though, most of you sheep must not have been around. Did you guys also complain that when N64 came out, the extra graphics weren't important? What if N64 stayed minorly more powerful than a genesis and launched against the PS1?? what would you say then? It's all a f***ing joke. If graphics aren't important, why have consoles evolved at all? You don't need to bash graphics if you don't care, but please dont be ignorant and say they dont matter.darkdude2k12

Well, considering that NES games are way more fun the genisis games on the whole, and considering that the NES sold way more than the SNES ever did, if nintendo had just remade the nes, it prolly would have still out sold the genisis and had more content to boot. Especially if the nes came with a controller that changed the way we play games, opening up many more gameplay oppertunites..

THough, I would miss the SNES...

There's no way you're serious about this statement whatsoever.

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="super600"]

True.

Mario1331

nobody said this

[QUOTE="ActionRemix"]

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

i want to see where he posted it,

super600

I didn't say graphics didn't matter idiot.I like games to look decent and to have good gameplay, but I don't like to much of a focus on graphics because it will increase development costs at times.You're a graphics whore TC.

[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="ActionRemix"]Everywhere on this damn forum. Just read the OP. He thinks 2006 technology is good enough for next gen.

darkdude2k12

I didn't say graphics didn't matter idiot.I like games to look decent and to have good gameplay, but I don't like to much of a focus on graphics because it will increase development costs at times.You're a graphics whore TC.

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

[QUOTE="locopatho"] They shouldn't have killed off the Wii, and kept supporting it. You can't have it both ways... you can't say graphics/power don't matter, then go mad over a new console announcement...locopatho

nobody said this

Of course they will.

Afterall, HD is now ok because the Wii-U is an HD console.

Unfortunately, the Wii-U's 720p max.