Dev's Say Games Enhanced on PS4 Over PC Versions (Link)

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#601 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="AMD655"]

[QUOTE="Slimmin360"] LOL oh yeah right...i'm real jealous, in a matter of 3 to 4 months i'll be playing my bought and paid for PS4, the most advanced gaming system on the planet, while you boys spend more money on upgrades to try and stay ahead of the latest Sony console hardware. Keep pouring your cash down the drain on hardware while i just invest mine in the latest and greatest PS4 games.Slimmin360

 

My PC is already enough to destroy your PS4.

 

Stay jealous.

Well this thread of nearly 30 pages and over 550 replies is proof enough itself of how insecure PC gamers are, and how much they feel that they need to defend there place in the gaming community. Any other thread pitting one console against another, maybe goes 7 to 10 pages max with debates....but these PC fanboys are so insecure, they feel they have to tout there so called superiority and hardware specs lists for all to see....as if consolites would be impressed anyway...there just making fools of themselves....but i'm enjoying the laughter with each high and mighty reply they make.

you're still being a hypocrite.

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[QUOTE="Slimmin360"][QUOTE="AMD655"]

 

My PC is already enough to destroy your PS4.

 

Stay jealous.

CaseyWegner

Well this thread of nearly 30 pages and over 550 replies is proof enough itself of how insecure PC gamers are, and how much they feel that they need to defend there place in the gaming community. Any other thread pitting one console against another, maybe goes 7 to 10 pages max with debates....but these PC fanboys are so insecure, they feel they have to tout there so called superiority and hardware specs lists for all to see....as if consolites would be impressed anyway...there just making fools of themselves....but i'm enjoying the laughter with each high and mighty reply they make.

you're still being a hypocrite.

Is this guy for real? Is he really claiming that arguments between console gamers (usually Xbox and Playstation fans) don't result in huge threads?

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#603 Slimmin360
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[QUOTE="Slimmin360"][QUOTE="AMD655"]

 

My PC is already enough to destroy your PS4.

 

Stay jealous.

CaseyWegner

Well this thread of nearly 30 pages and over 550 replies is proof enough itself of how insecure PC gamers are, and how much they feel that they need to defend there place in the gaming community. Any other thread pitting one console against another, maybe goes 7 to 10 pages max with debates....but these PC fanboys are so insecure, they feel they have to tout there so called superiority and hardware specs lists for all to see....as if consolites would be impressed anyway...there just making fools of themselves....but i'm enjoying the laughter with each high and mighty reply they make.

you're still being a hypocrite.

Enlighten me...what exactly am i being a hypocrite about?
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#604 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="Slimmin360"] Well this thread of nearly 30 pages and over 550 replies is proof enough itself of how insecure PC gamers are, and how much they feel that they need to defend there place in the gaming community. Any other thread pitting one console against another, maybe goes 7 to 10 pages max with debates....but these PC fanboys are so insecure, they feel they have to tout there so called superiority and hardware specs lists for all to see....as if consolites would be impressed anyway...there just making fools of themselves....but i'm enjoying the laughter with each high and mighty reply they make.Slimmin360

you're still being a hypocrite.

Enlighten me...what exactly am i being a hypocrite about?

in this case? what do you think you've been doing in this thread? do you feel insecure? is that why you're defending your place in the gaming community?

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#605 Slimmin360
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[QUOTE="Slimmin360"][QUOTE="AMD655"]

 

You spend way more than 1500 with your console, up front price just makes it look cheap, when it costa an absolute tonne over the years.

Vaasman

Okay lets add this up $399 PS4 10 years of Playstation Plus $500, so let's round that off to $950 over the course of 10 years. The cost of games cannot be included because those are an expense on every platform. To get a descent gaming rig is at least $900, Gaming Laptop is closer to $1500,, and any extra peripherals such as wireless keyboard and mouse, wired or wireless controller, an HD monitor, cables for HD TV hook up.....Now PC gamer's are well into between $1500 to $2000 depending on there choice of machine. Plus i didn't even get into upgrades such as graphic cards, sound cards, ram, hard drives, power supplies and so on. So please don't humiliate yourself by trying to prove that PC's are more cost effective because in that category it is no contest,,consoles have been and always will be the more affordable means of gaming.

You lost me there. Tons of multiplat games started 10 dollars less than their console counterparts. PC games also have faster and more frequent price drops, as well as more frequent sales with more money saved.

So don't tell me the games don't matter when the entire point is using leftover money to buy games.

Also I love how you somehow turned a 900 dollar PC into a 2000 dollar PC after peripherals. What did they buy a 300 dollar keyboard and a 500 dollar speaker set? You do realize that if someone upgrades their PC, the previous keyboard and mouse and other devices will still work, right?

Not to mention you added in the price of an HD monitor which is just getting close to the territory of "oh god just quit now, I'm embarassed for you." Can I add the price of a new HDTV to my PS4? Actually I'm going to buy a projector set with movie theater quality surround sound. Now my PS4 costs 5000 dollars. Guess it's not so cost effective after all to play on consoles.

Yes i didn't include the cost of games because they are a necessary expense for every platform. How many descent gaming rigs do you know come with monitors?....Maybe a Target or Wal-mart special PC for $500 to $600 bucks might come with one, but that's no serious gaming rig, and it certainly wouldn't be on par with a PS4. So yes an nice 27 or 32 inch LED monitor $150 to $300, a wireless keyboard and mouse at least $80 for both..add the $600 you proposed to this, even one that includes the mouse and keyboard and your still looking at $1000 for a computer that's not fit to shine a PS4's shoes as far as graphics.
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#606 Slimmin360
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[QUOTE="Slimmin360"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

you're still being a hypocrite.

CaseyWegner

Enlighten me...what exactly am i being a hypocrite about?

in this case? what do you think you've been doing in this thread? do you feel insecure? is that why you're defending your place in the gaming community?

Why would i feel insecure, consoles are the top selling game machines for the past 30 years, and PC's are always second to all of them, why do you think you get such massive discounts on your games? It's because PC game sales don't move off the shelf nearly as fast as console games. Don't believe me, walk into any Gamestop and look at the tiny amount of shelf space they have in the middle of the store, while console games line the walls of every Gamestop. However i'm sure you'll use the old excuse for that as saying " Most PC games are now bought through Steam " right?....yeah well i say bull -ownie, if there was the demand, there would be an inventory, but no one is demanding PC games so no stores are stocking them....it's as simple as that.
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#607 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="Slimmin360"] Enlighten me...what exactly am i being a hypocrite about?Slimmin360

in this case? what do you think you've been doing in this thread? do you feel insecure? is that why you're defending your place in the gaming community?

Why would i feel insecure,

because you've been spending alot of time trying to convince the PC gamers in this thread that console gamer is the best.

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#608 Slimmin360
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[QUOTE="Slimmin360"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

in this case? what do you think you've been doing in this thread? do you feel insecure? is that why you're defending your place in the gaming community?

lawlessx

Why would i feel insecure,

because you've been spending alot of time trying to convince the PC gamers in this thread that console gamer is the best.

Are you new to system wars or what? Nobody can convince anyone into anything all we can do is debate til' we're blue in the face and try and make the most valid arguments on our systems behalf that we can. No PC gamer is convincing me of anything, as i'm sure i'm not convincing them of anything, it's the battles of will's and intellects that's so enticing.
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#609 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="Slimmin360"] Enlighten me...what exactly am i being a hypocrite about?Slimmin360

in this case? what do you think you've been doing in this thread? do you feel insecure? is that why you're defending your place in the gaming community?

Why would i feel insecure, consoles are the top selling game machines for the past 30 years, and PC's are always second to all of them, why do you think you get such massive discounts on your games? It's because PC game sales don't move off the shelf nearly as fast as console games. Don't believe me, walk into any Gamestop and look at the tiny amount of shelf space they have in the middle of the store, while console games line the walls of every Gamestop. However i'm sure you'll use the old excuse for that as saying " Most PC games are now bought through Steam " right?....yeah well i say bull -ownie, if there was the demand, there would be an inventory, but no one is demanding PC games so no stores are stocking them....it's as simple as that.

that's hardly proof. what makes you secure but pc gamers insecure? you're going the exact same thing here?

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#610 lostrib
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the trolling is strong in this thread

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[QUOTE="Slimmin360"][QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="Slimmin360"] You will be forced into hardware upgrades every 2 or 3 years to be able to run various games, where we will be able to run every new game for the 10 or more years for the duration of our consoles life, with no minimum requirements issues, or constant updates needed. Gaming on consoles is Zero maintenance, while gaming on PC's is constant maintenance....and that's a fact whether you want to admit it or not.

What utter tosh. Hardware upgrades are optional, I bought my CPU in 2011 and I wont be replacing it till at least 2016. You say that consoles are zero maintance, you still have to run patches and updates, also when your machine breaks because we all know it will you will have to ship your entire unit off to the repair centre. I don't have to do that my PC, I can just replace the broken part and I'm back up and running again.

Xbox 360 Yes it broke many times on me RROD was a plague for the 360, however the Nintendo and Sony consoles i've owned,,,not once did i ever have a hardware issue with any of them. I also take very good care of my things, the consoles literally go from the box to my shelf and that's where they stay, i even go so far as to put a dust cover over them when there not in use. So unless my PS4 is dropped or damaged during shipping, i don't foresee having any issues with it, and even if i do, i've heard from my local game store that Sony CSR is very helpful and if the problem can't be fixed at home or remotely, they have an ultra fast turnaround of no more than 3 weeks. I can live with that....don't need to be glued in front of my games 24/7 like some PC fanboys.

I've also had consoles break. Both my 360 AND PS3 have died on many occasions so don't give me crap about consoles being robust, also show me where I said you needed to be glued in front of my PC.
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[QUOTE="Slimmin360"][QUOTE="clyde46"] What utter tosh. Hardware upgrades are optional, I bought my CPU in 2011 and I wont be replacing it till at least 2016. You say that consoles are zero maintance, you still have to run patches and updates, also when your machine breaks because we all know it will you will have to ship your entire unit off to the repair centre. I don't have to do that my PC, I can just replace the broken part and I'm back up and running again. clyde46
Xbox 360 Yes it broke many times on me RROD was a plague for the 360, however the Nintendo and Sony consoles i've owned,,,not once did i ever have a hardware issue with any of them. I also take very good care of my things, the consoles literally go from the box to my shelf and that's where they stay, i even go so far as to put a dust cover over them when there not in use. So unless my PS4 is dropped or damaged during shipping, i don't foresee having any issues with it, and even if i do, i've heard from my local game store that Sony CSR is very helpful and if the problem can't be fixed at home or remotely, they have an ultra fast turnaround of no more than 3 weeks. I can live with that....don't need to be glued in front of my games 24/7 like some PC fanboys.

I've also had consoles break. Both my 360 AND PS3 have died on many occasions so don't give me crap about consoles being robust, also show me where I said you needed to be glued in front of my PC.

Never seen Clyde participating/getting involved in discussions as such before...

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lol PS4 won't beat PC for graphics

It'll beat it for alot of other things like big-budget AAA exclusives, convenience, fun factor, less stress etc.

But it won't be it for graphics.

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[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

[QUOTE="Slimmin360"] Okay lets add this up $399 PS4 10 years of Playstation Plus $500, so let's round that off to $950 over the course of 10 years. The cost of games cannot be included because those are an expense on every platform. To get a descent gaming rig is at least $900, Gaming Laptop is closer to $1500,, and any extra peripherals such as wireless keyboard and mouse, wired or wireless controller, an HD monitor, cables for HD TV hook up.....Now PC gamer's are well into between $1500 to $2000 depending on there choice of machine. Plus i didn't even get into upgrades such as graphic cards, sound cards, ram, hard drives, power supplies and so on. So please don't humiliate yourself by trying to prove that PC's are more cost effective because in that category it is no contest,,consoles have been and always will be the more affordable means of gaming.Slimmin360

You lost me there. Tons of multiplat games started 10 dollars less than their console counterparts. PC games also have faster and more frequent price drops, as well as more frequent sales with more money saved.

So don't tell me the games don't matter when the entire point is using leftover money to buy games.

Also I love how you somehow turned a 900 dollar PC into a 2000 dollar PC after peripherals. What did they buy a 300 dollar keyboard and a 500 dollar speaker set? You do realize that if someone upgrades their PC, the previous keyboard and mouse and other devices will still work, right?

Not to mention you added in the price of an HD monitor which is just getting close to the territory of "oh god just quit now, I'm embarassed for you." Can I add the price of a new HDTV to my PS4? Actually I'm going to buy a projector set with movie theater quality surround sound. Now my PS4 costs 5000 dollars. Guess it's not so cost effective after all to play on consoles.

Yes i didn't include the cost of games because they are a necessary expense for every platform. How many descent gaming rigs do you know come with monitors?....Maybe a Target or Wal-mart special PC for $500 to $600 bucks might come with one, but that's no serious gaming rig, and it certainly wouldn't be on par with a PS4. So yes an nice 27 or 32 inch LED monitor $150 to $300, a wireless keyboard and mouse at least $80 for both..add the $600 you proposed to this, even one that includes the mouse and keyboard and your still looking at $1000 for a computer that's not fit to shine a PS4's shoes as far as graphics.

Yeah but for a console you need a monitor or tv too. I use the same tv for my pc and my consoles. For a 1000$ I make a pc that smokes the ps4 (with mouse & keyboard) You don't realize how weak the consoles are compared to pc's.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPr8ia-cZOw

Thats right PC fanboys watch it and weep.

Latest gen consoles have not only eliminated the small margin of quality that PC graphics and gameplay had over 360 and PS3 but they have now exceeded the PC versions.

I for one am thrilled, i've always preferred console gaming for it's singularity when it comes to hardware development and controls and just pushing the power button and playing your game within 30 seconds and now the hardware is equal to if not better than most PC's on the market for playing games.

Slimmin360

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This thread.....

 

 

LOL

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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

You are an idiot if you think that this will last long, if AT ALL.

True story: By the time these consoles launch there will be new video cards on the market that will demolish anything that the consoles can render. On top of that while you are stuck with what's in the console with no option to upgrade, new PC graphics cards will be introduced EVERY YEAR during the entire console life cycle.

We go through this every time a console launches and you dumbasses still haven't figured it out yet.

DeViLzzz



I endorse this message.  

There are already videocards that slaughter the ps4 gpu, nl the titan and the gtx 780
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#619 faizan_faizan
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[QUOTE="DeViLzzz"]

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

You are an idiot if you think that this will last long, if AT ALL.

True story: By the time these consoles launch there will be new video cards on the market that will demolish anything that the consoles can render. On top of that while you are stuck with what's in the console with no option to upgrade, new PC graphics cards will be introduced EVERY YEAR during the entire console life cycle.

We go through this every time a console launches and you dumbasses still haven't figured it out yet.

evildead6789



I endorse this message.  

There are already videocards that slaughter the ps4 gpu, nl the titan and the gtx 780

Yep, and it's not even released yet. Plebs need to realize that this isn't the X360 situation again.
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[QUOTE="evildead6789"][QUOTE="DeViLzzz"]

I endorse this message.  faizan_faizan
There are already videocards that slaughter the ps4 gpu, nl the titan and the gtx 780

Yep, and it's not even released yet. Plebs need to realize that this isn't the X360 situation again.

Far from it, the x360 was a powerhouse when it was released, it made me not buy a new pc (had a p4 with a x1600). If I wanted the same hardware in a pc i would have paid 1500$, and the xbox was like 350$ or something This time my 600$ pc already creams the hardware specs on the xbox and ps4.
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#624 commander
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"You PC fans are blindly loyal i'll give you that, but the fact will always remain, that gamers prefer to game on consoles, no system requirement hassles, no awkward keyboard mouse control scheme, and no errors or load issues, or erratic game closures exist on consoles...

You can argue it to your last breath, and you probably will because it gnaws at you that consoles are the primary choice of gamers, but thats life."



For the guy that said this you are an idiot.  Keyboard and mouse control is easier than using controllers these days.  I wish I could master using a controller for the Xbox 360 or PS3 but they are so complex it is not even funny.  Awkward keyboard mouse control scheme ? LOLOL 

DeViLzzz
I have all systems and the fact is , you're completely right when it comes to ease of use, but steam is making thing easy on the pc , so does windows 7. As a matter of fact , since windows xp stability is not really an issue anymore. I also play with a controller on my pc and steam has a build in app that pretty much works as the ps3 and the xbox. It's kinda like having your own custom console. I do prefer the xbox for party chat and the ps3 for it's exclusives, but lately I just use the xbox onlyfor chatting and console specific games. The multiplats I play on my pc, why? because a lot of games look and run like crap on the consoles. I hasn't always been like that though, the xbox has done a magnificent job and some games I just played on my xbox because the difference wasn't big enough for me But right now playing on a console feels like a low resolution lagfest. Gaming doesn't come cheap and if you have to chose right now, then it's really hard. Have next gen graphics right away with a pc or save up money, but what console to buy then? Choices, Choices...
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#625 AdrianWerner
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[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"]

 

The PS2 had better graphics than PC at the time of launch,and the xbox 360 as well.

 

clyde46

360 didn't. It was the first time console didn't blow pc graphics away at launch. But it was happening regularly before that with PSX, PS3, DC, N64 and Xbox.

Wrong, the 360 version of most games just after release looked better than what was available on PC at the time. It wasn't till AMD and Nvidia made GPU's with the unified shaders did the PC pull ahead.

Nope. In fact even at launch the multiplatform games like Fear, Prey and Quake 4 had to be heavily downraged to run on 360. Xbox 360 was never ahead.

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#626 kalipekona
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[QUOTE="lawlessx"]

[QUOTE="Slimmin360"] Why would i feel insecure, Slimmin360

because you've been spending alot of time trying to convince the PC gamers in this thread that console gamer is the best.

Are you new to system wars or what? Nobody can convince anyone into anything all we can do is debate til' we're blue in the face and try and make the most valid arguments on our systems behalf that we can. No PC gamer is convincing me of anything, as i'm sure i'm not convincing them of anything, it's the battles of will's and intellects that's so enticing.

No, I don't take that position at all. Given convincing arguments using sound logic and facts, I absolutely am prepared to change my views.

Unfortunately, you're comments are mostly devoid of logic and you completely invent "facts" that aren't so. 

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#627 faizan_faizan
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]360 didn't. It was the first time console didn't blow pc graphics away at launch. But it was happening regularly before that with PSX, PS3, DC, N64 and Xbox.

AdrianWerner

Wrong, the 360 version of most games just after release looked better than what was available on PC at the time. It wasn't till AMD and Nvidia made GPU's with the unified shaders did the PC pull ahead.

Nope. In fact even at launch the multiplatform games like Fear, Prey and Quake 4 had to be heavily downraged to run on 360. Xbox 360 was never ahead.

I'm pretty sure Gears of War looked better than anything when it came out.
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#628 commander
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[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"] Wrong, the 360 version of most games just after release looked better than what was available on PC at the time. It wasn't till AMD and Nvidia made GPU's with the unified shaders did the PC pull ahead. faizan_faizan

Nope. In fact even at launch the multiplatform games like Fear, Prey and Quake 4 had to be heavily downraged to run on 360. Xbox 360 was never ahead.

I'm pretty sure Gears of War looked better than anything when it came out.

Sure did and fear prey and quake could have run on the first xbox, downgraded for the x360, what a joke
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[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"] Wrong, the 360 version of most games just after release looked better than what was available on PC at the time. It wasn't till AMD and Nvidia made GPU's with the unified shaders did the PC pull ahead. faizan_faizan

Nope. In fact even at launch the multiplatform games like Fear, Prey and Quake 4 had to be heavily downraged to run on 360. Xbox 360 was never ahead.

I'm pretty sure Gears of War looked better than anything when it came out.

Hmm.. I guess you're right. Gears did look better than anything on PC back then. I didn't remember how much later the pc version camed out. 

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#630 AdrianWerner
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[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"][QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]Nope. In fact even at launch the multiplatform games like Fear, Prey and Quake 4 had to be heavily downraged to run on 360. Xbox 360 was never ahead.

evildead6789

I'm pretty sure Gears of War looked better than anything when it came out.

Sure did and fear prey and quake could have run on the first xbox, downgraded for the x360, what a joke

If they could have run on Xbox 1 why were they downraged so heavily on 360?

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[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"][QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]Nope. In fact even at launch the multiplatform games like Fear, Prey and Quake 4 had to be heavily downraged to run on 360. Xbox 360 was never ahead.

AdrianWerner

I'm pretty sure Gears of War looked better than anything when it came out.

Hmm.. I guess you're right. Gears did look better than anything on PC back then. I didn't remember how much later the pc version camed out. 

Yeah, Gears did look better at that point. But the multiplatform games you listed (FEAR, Prey and Quake 4) still looked better on a good PC.

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Very good....the PS4 have already dominate.
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"You PC fans are blindly loyal i'll give you that, but the fact will always remain, that gamers prefer to game on consoles, no system requirement hassles, no awkward keyboard mouse control scheme, and no errors or load issues, or erratic game closures exist on consoles...

You can argue it to your last breath, and you probably will because it gnaws at you that consoles are the primary choice of gamers, but thats life."



For the guy that said this you are an idiot.  Keyboard and mouse control is easier than using controllers these days.  I wish I could master using a controller for the Xbox 360 or PS3 but they are so complex it is not even funny.  Awkward keyboard mouse control scheme ? LOLOL 

DeViLzzz
LOL Are you friggin' serious...a simple controller with two thumbsticks, a D-pad, 4 face buttons and 4 triggers has you stumped??? LOL and swinging a game camera around with a mouse while trying to move your character with the W-A-S-D buttons while not hitting any other buttons is simple??? LOL master race my sweet patooty....what a joke,,, In all seriousness i believe if a person has been either a console gamer or PC gamer there entire gaming life, then the control scheme they prefer is the one most familiar to them. However i will never believe anyone who spent the majority of there life gaming on a console and then suddenly switched to PC gaming will prefer the control scheme of a keyboard and mouse over a controller. There are just too many surrounding keyboard keys in the way to ever fully be able to concentrate on the game on the screen without checking to see where your fingers are on the keyboard. Where as a console gamer once he knows the controls of a certain game there playing, they never have to glance away from the screen.
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[QUOTE="DeViLzzz"]

"You PC fans are blindly loyal i'll give you that, but the fact will always remain, that gamers prefer to game on consoles, no system requirement hassles, no awkward keyboard mouse control scheme, and no errors or load issues, or erratic game closures exist on consoles...

You can argue it to your last breath, and you probably will because it gnaws at you that consoles are the primary choice of gamers, but thats life."



For the guy that said this you are an idiot.  Keyboard and mouse control is easier than using controllers these days.  I wish I could master using a controller for the Xbox 360 or PS3 but they are so complex it is not even funny.  Awkward keyboard mouse control scheme ? LOLOL 

Slimmin360

LOL Are you friggin' serious...a simple controller with two thumbsticks, a D-pad, 4 face buttons and 4 triggers has you stumped??? LOL and swinging a game camera around with a mouse while trying to move your character with the W-A-S-D buttons while not hitting any other buttons is simple??? LOL master race my sweet patooty....what a joke,,, In all seriousness i believe if a person has been either a console gamer or PC gamer there entire gaming life, then the control scheme they prefer is the one most familiar to them. However i will never believe anyone who spent the majority of there life gaming on a console and then suddenly switched to PC gaming will prefer the control scheme of a keyboard and mouse over a controller. There are just too many surrounding keyboard keys in the way to ever fully be able to concentrate on the game on the screen without checking to see where your fingers are on the keyboard. Where as a console gamer once he knows the controls of a certain game there playing, they never have to glance away from the screen.

1. keyboard controls can be customized and mapped.

2. you can use controllers for pc games too.

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[QUOTE="Slimmin360"][QUOTE="lawlessx"]

because you've been spending alot of time trying to convince the PC gamers in this thread that console gamer is the best.

kalipekona

Are you new to system wars or what? Nobody can convince anyone into anything all we can do is debate til' we're blue in the face and try and make the most valid arguments on our systems behalf that we can. No PC gamer is convincing me of anything, as i'm sure i'm not convincing them of anything, it's the battles of will's and intellects that's so enticing.

No, I don't take that position at all. Given convincing arguments using sound logic and facts, I absolutely am prepared to change my views.

Unfortunately, you're comments are mostly devoid of logic and you completely invent "facts" that aren't so. 

I would be very curious to hear what facts i've invented along the way during this little debate, because as far as i know i have just voiced my opinion in the PS4's favor and consoles in general over PC's. It's the PC fanboys who love to pull the graphics card out and play it constantly (no pun intended), but now that the latest batch of consoles (Xbox-One and PS4) have matched the capabilities of existing PC software and game graphics, they just don't want to accept it, they still want to battle it tooth and nail. However i believe you will not be able to see a visual difference with the naked eye on a multiplatform game that's on both PS4 and PC.
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[QUOTE="Slimmin360"][QUOTE="DeViLzzz"]

"You PC fans are blindly loyal i'll give you that, but the fact will always remain, that gamers prefer to game on consoles, no system requirement hassles, no awkward keyboard mouse control scheme, and no errors or load issues, or erratic game closures exist on consoles...

You can argue it to your last breath, and you probably will because it gnaws at you that consoles are the primary choice of gamers, but thats life."



For the guy that said this you are an idiot.  Keyboard and mouse control is easier than using controllers these days.  I wish I could master using a controller for the Xbox 360 or PS3 but they are so complex it is not even funny.  Awkward keyboard mouse control scheme ? LOLOL 

CaseyWegner

LOL Are you friggin' serious...a simple controller with two thumbsticks, a D-pad, 4 face buttons and 4 triggers has you stumped??? LOL and swinging a game camera around with a mouse while trying to move your character with the W-A-S-D buttons while not hitting any other buttons is simple??? LOL master race my sweet patooty....what a joke,,, In all seriousness i believe if a person has been either a console gamer or PC gamer there entire gaming life, then the control scheme they prefer is the one most familiar to them. However i will never believe anyone who spent the majority of there life gaming on a console and then suddenly switched to PC gaming will prefer the control scheme of a keyboard and mouse over a controller. There are just too many surrounding keyboard keys in the way to ever fully be able to concentrate on the game on the screen without checking to see where your fingers are on the keyboard. Where as a console gamer once he knows the controls of a certain game there playing, they never have to glance away from the screen.

1. keyboard controls can be customized and mapped.

2. you can use controllers for pc games too.

I'm sure keyboard controls can be mapped for those computer literate enough to know how to do it. As far controllers being used for PC games, there are only a small percentage of games on PC's where games actually have pre-mapped configurations for controller use, otherwise you have to take the time to figure it out for yourself how to map which button to do what you want, if that person can figure it out at all. Again just another PC hassle, just put a game in a PS4 or any console for that matter and it's controls are pre-configured and ready to play, it's always easier on a console.
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However i believe you will not be able to see a visual difference with the naked eye on a multiplatform game that's on both PS4 and PC.Slimmin360
>Implying there is no difference between 1600p resolution and 1080p resolution.
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[QUOTE="Slimmin360"]However i believe you will not be able to see a visual difference with the naked eye on a multiplatform game that's on both PS4 and PC.faizan_faizan
>Implying there is no difference between 1600p resolution and 1080p resolution.

I didn't imply there was no difference i implied that the average person will not be able to physically see a difference unless there using strong binoculars or a microscope,,,but a visual difference during regular gameplay......no way
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="Slimmin360"] LOL Are you friggin' serious...a simple controller with two thumbsticks, a D-pad, 4 face buttons and 4 triggers has you stumped??? LOL and swinging a game camera around with a mouse while trying to move your character with the W-A-S-D buttons while not hitting any other buttons is simple??? LOL master race my sweet patooty....what a joke,,, In all seriousness i believe if a person has been either a console gamer or PC gamer there entire gaming life, then the control scheme they prefer is the one most familiar to them. However i will never believe anyone who spent the majority of there life gaming on a console and then suddenly switched to PC gaming will prefer the control scheme of a keyboard and mouse over a controller. There are just too many surrounding keyboard keys in the way to ever fully be able to concentrate on the game on the screen without checking to see where your fingers are on the keyboard. Where as a console gamer once he knows the controls of a certain game there playing, they never have to glance away from the screen.Slimmin360

1. keyboard controls can be customized and mapped.

2. you can use controllers for pc games too.

I'm sure keyboard controls can be mapped for those computer literate enough to know how to do it. As far controllers being used for PC games, there are only a small percentage of games on PC's where games actually have pre-mapped configurations for controller use, otherwise you have to take the time to figure it out for yourself how to map which button to do what you want, if that person can figure it out at all. Again just another PC hassle, just put a game in a PS4 or any console for that matter and it's controls are pre-configured and ready to play, it's always easier on a console.

Oh man it sure takes a lot of literacy to open the game, go to the options, and go to key bindings :lol:

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[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"][QUOTE="Slimmin360"]However i believe you will not be able to see a visual difference with the naked eye on a multiplatform game that's on both PS4 and PC.Slimmin360
>Implying there is no difference between 1600p resolution and 1080p resolution.

I didn't imply there was no difference i implied that the average person will not be able to physically see a difference unless there using strong binoculars or a microscope,,,but a visual difference during regular gameplay......no way

Still lying I see.
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"You PC fans are blindly loyal i'll give you that, but the fact will always remain, that gamers prefer to game on consoles, no system requirement hassles, no awkward keyboard mouse control scheme, and no errors or load issues, or erratic game closures exist on consoles...

You can argue it to your last breath, and you probably will because it gnaws at you that consoles are the primary choice of gamers, but thats life."



For the guy that said this you are an idiot.  Keyboard and mouse control is easier than using controllers these days.  I wish I could master using a controller for the Xbox 360 or PS3 but they are so complex it is not even funny.  Awkward keyboard mouse control scheme ? LOLOL 

Slimmin360

LOL Are you friggin' serious...a simple controller with two thumbsticks, a D-pad, 4 face buttons and 4 triggers has you stumped??? LOL and swinging a game camera around with a mouse while trying to move your character with the W-A-S-D buttons while not hitting any other buttons is simple??? LOL master race my sweet patooty....what a joke,,, In all seriousness i believe if a person has been either a console gamer or PC gamer there entire gaming life, then the control scheme they prefer is the one most familiar to them. However i will never believe anyone who spent the majority of there life gaming on a console and then suddenly switched to PC gaming will prefer the control scheme of a keyboard and mouse over a controller. There are just too many surrounding keyboard keys in the way to ever fully be able to concentrate on the game on the screen without checking to see where your fingers are on the keyboard. Where as a console gamer once he knows the controls of a certain game there playing, they never have to glance away from the screen.

 

I prefer solid accurate controls, welcome to my world.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUT1QsAjyts&feature=c4-overview&list=UUXSNG_dnNyKDg4JnOTcgd4Q

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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="Slimmin360"] LOL Are you friggin' serious...a simple controller with two thumbsticks, a D-pad, 4 face buttons and 4 triggers has you stumped??? LOL and swinging a game camera around with a mouse while trying to move your character with the W-A-S-D buttons while not hitting any other buttons is simple??? LOL master race my sweet patooty....what a joke,,, In all seriousness i believe if a person has been either a console gamer or PC gamer there entire gaming life, then the control scheme they prefer is the one most familiar to them. However i will never believe anyone who spent the majority of there life gaming on a console and then suddenly switched to PC gaming will prefer the control scheme of a keyboard and mouse over a controller. There are just too many surrounding keyboard keys in the way to ever fully be able to concentrate on the game on the screen without checking to see where your fingers are on the keyboard. Where as a console gamer once he knows the controls of a certain game there playing, they never have to glance away from the screen.Slimmin360

1. keyboard controls can be customized and mapped.

2. you can use controllers for pc games too.

I'm sure keyboard controls can be mapped for those computer literate enough to know how to do it. As far controllers being used for PC games, there are only a small percentage of games on PC's where games actually have pre-mapped configurations for controller use, otherwise you have to take the time to figure it out for yourself how to map which button to do what you want, if that person can figure it out at all. Again just another PC hassle, just put a game in a PS4 or any console for that matter and it's controls are pre-configured and ready to play, it's always easier on a console.

if you can go to a console game's menu, you can do the same for a pc game. it's the exact same thing. shouldn't you know this?

apparently you haven't tried using a 360 controller for pc games recently. games where using a controller makes sense have been fully compatible and pre-mapped for years.

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[QUOTE="Slimmin360"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

1. keyboard controls can be customized and mapped.

2. you can use controllers for pc games too.

Vaasman

I'm sure keyboard controls can be mapped for those computer literate enough to know how to do it. As far controllers being used for PC games, there are only a small percentage of games on PC's where games actually have pre-mapped configurations for controller use, otherwise you have to take the time to figure it out for yourself how to map which button to do what you want, if that person can figure it out at all. Again just another PC hassle, just put a game in a PS4 or any console for that matter and it's controls are pre-configured and ready to play, it's always easier on a console.

Oh man it sure takes a lot of literacy to open the game, go to the options, and go to key bindings :lol:

For the average person who just think's they can put a game in the computer and be able to control it without configuring anything....yeah it is difficult, you can't assume everyone is 18 to 30 years old and completely computer literate, there are people out there who have enough trouble getting around windows period without worrying about having to going into game options and binding keys.
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[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

[QUOTE="Slimmin360"] I'm sure keyboard controls can be mapped for those computer literate enough to know how to do it. As far controllers being used for PC games, there are only a small percentage of games on PC's where games actually have pre-mapped configurations for controller use, otherwise you have to take the time to figure it out for yourself how to map which button to do what you want, if that person can figure it out at all. Again just another PC hassle, just put a game in a PS4 or any console for that matter and it's controls are pre-configured and ready to play, it's always easier on a console.Slimmin360

Oh man it sure takes a lot of literacy to open the game, go to the options, and go to key bindings :lol:

For the average person who just think's they can put a game in the computer and be able to control it without configuring anything....yeah it is difficult, you can't assume everyone is 18 to 30 years old and completely computer literate, there are people out there who have enough trouble getting around windows period without worrying about having to going into game options and binding keys.

Dat straw man argument.
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[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

[QUOTE="Slimmin360"] I'm sure keyboard controls can be mapped for those computer literate enough to know how to do it. As far controllers being used for PC games, there are only a small percentage of games on PC's where games actually have pre-mapped configurations for controller use, otherwise you have to take the time to figure it out for yourself how to map which button to do what you want, if that person can figure it out at all. Again just another PC hassle, just put a game in a PS4 or any console for that matter and it's controls are pre-configured and ready to play, it's always easier on a console.Slimmin360

Oh man it sure takes a lot of literacy to open the game, go to the options, and go to key bindings :lol:

For the average person who just think's they can put a game in the computer and be able to control it without configuring anything....yeah it is difficult, you can't assume everyone is 18 to 30 years old and completely computer literate, there are people out there who have enough trouble getting around windows period without worrying about having to going into game options and binding keys.

There's quite a difference between being computer illiterate and being computer utterly-braindead. If you don't know by now that you can adjust the control settings in the options menu, then just give up on all forms of gaming, forever.

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[QUOTE="Slimmin360"][QUOTE="DeViLzzz"]

"You PC fans are blindly loyal i'll give you that, but the fact will always remain, that gamers prefer to game on consoles, no system requirement hassles, no awkward keyboard mouse control scheme, and no errors or load issues, or erratic game closures exist on consoles...

You can argue it to your last breath, and you probably will because it gnaws at you that consoles are the primary choice of gamers, but thats life."



For the guy that said this you are an idiot.  Keyboard and mouse control is easier than using controllers these days.  I wish I could master using a controller for the Xbox 360 or PS3 but they are so complex it is not even funny.  Awkward keyboard mouse control scheme ? LOLOL 

AMD655

LOL Are you friggin' serious...a simple controller with two thumbsticks, a D-pad, 4 face buttons and 4 triggers has you stumped??? LOL and swinging a game camera around with a mouse while trying to move your character with the W-A-S-D buttons while not hitting any other buttons is simple??? LOL master race my sweet patooty....what a joke,,, In all seriousness i believe if a person has been either a console gamer or PC gamer there entire gaming life, then the control scheme they prefer is the one most familiar to them. However i will never believe anyone who spent the majority of there life gaming on a console and then suddenly switched to PC gaming will prefer the control scheme of a keyboard and mouse over a controller. There are just too many surrounding keyboard keys in the way to ever fully be able to concentrate on the game on the screen without checking to see where your fingers are on the keyboard. Where as a console gamer once he knows the controls of a certain game there playing, they never have to glance away from the screen.

 

I prefer solid accurate controls, welcome to my world.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUT1QsAjyts&feature=c4-overview&list=UUXSNG_dnNyKDg4JnOTcgd4Q

Looks the same to me. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOAG3Kwf_RU
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[QUOTE="AMD655"]

[QUOTE="Slimmin360"] LOL Are you friggin' serious...a simple controller with two thumbsticks, a D-pad, 4 face buttons and 4 triggers has you stumped??? LOL and swinging a game camera around with a mouse while trying to move your character with the W-A-S-D buttons while not hitting any other buttons is simple??? LOL master race my sweet patooty....what a joke,,, In all seriousness i believe if a person has been either a console gamer or PC gamer there entire gaming life, then the control scheme they prefer is the one most familiar to them. However i will never believe anyone who spent the majority of there life gaming on a console and then suddenly switched to PC gaming will prefer the control scheme of a keyboard and mouse over a controller. There are just too many surrounding keyboard keys in the way to ever fully be able to concentrate on the game on the screen without checking to see where your fingers are on the keyboard. Where as a console gamer once he knows the controls of a certain game there playing, they never have to glance away from the screen.Slimmin360

 

I prefer solid accurate controls, welcome to my world.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUT1QsAjyts&feature=c4-overview&list=UUXSNG_dnNyKDg4JnOTcgd4Q

Looks the same to me. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOAG3Kwf_RU

Its ShadowMoses!
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[QUOTE="AMD655"]

[QUOTE="Slimmin360"] LOL Are you friggin' serious...a simple controller with two thumbsticks, a D-pad, 4 face buttons and 4 triggers has you stumped??? LOL and swinging a game camera around with a mouse while trying to move your character with the W-A-S-D buttons while not hitting any other buttons is simple??? LOL master race my sweet patooty....what a joke,,, In all seriousness i believe if a person has been either a console gamer or PC gamer there entire gaming life, then the control scheme they prefer is the one most familiar to them. However i will never believe anyone who spent the majority of there life gaming on a console and then suddenly switched to PC gaming will prefer the control scheme of a keyboard and mouse over a controller. There are just too many surrounding keyboard keys in the way to ever fully be able to concentrate on the game on the screen without checking to see where your fingers are on the keyboard. Where as a console gamer once he knows the controls of a certain game there playing, they never have to glance away from the screen.Slimmin360

 

I prefer solid accurate controls, welcome to my world.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUT1QsAjyts&feature=c4-overview&list=UUXSNG_dnNyKDg4JnOTcgd4Q

Looks the same to me. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOAG3Kwf_RU

 

Proven blind.

 

30FPS, lower than low settings, and 24 players.

 

LOL

 

 

Dat auto aim.

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[QUOTE="Slimmin360"][QUOTE="Vaasman"]Oh man it sure takes a lot of literacy to open the game, go to the options, and go to key bindings :lol:

Vaasman

For the average person who just think's they can put a game in the computer and be able to control it without configuring anything....yeah it is difficult, you can't assume everyone is 18 to 30 years old and completely computer literate, there are people out there who have enough trouble getting around windows period without worrying about having to going into game options and binding keys.

There's quite a difference between being computer illiterate and being computer utterly-braindead. If you don't know by now that you can adjust the control settings in the options menu, then just give up on all forms of gaming, forever.

I'm not talking about myself , i'm talking about your average gamer, especially those used to gaming on consoles, that was the point being made, anyone making the switch to PC gaming would not know right away how to do or where to go to do those configurations.....and that in itself is yet another thing any gamer should not have to be bothered with. You should just put the game on and be able to play,...and on a console it's that simple.
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[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

[QUOTE="Slimmin360"] For the average person who just think's they can put a game in the computer and be able to control it without configuring anything....yeah it is difficult, you can't assume everyone is 18 to 30 years old and completely computer literate, there are people out there who have enough trouble getting around windows period without worrying about having to going into game options and binding keys.Slimmin360

There's quite a difference between being computer illiterate and being computer utterly-braindead. If you don't know by now that you can adjust the control settings in the options menu, then just give up on all forms of gaming, forever.

I'm not talking about myself , i'm talking about your average gamer, especially those used to gaming on consoles, that was the point being made, anyone making the switch to PC gaming would not know right away how to do or where to go to do those configurations.....and that in itself is yet another thing any gamer should not have to be bothered with. You should just put the game on and be able to play,...and on a console it's that simple.

 

 

 

You must love sluggish gaming....

 

Dat recoil control... LOLOLOLOL