Dev's Say Games Enhanced on PS4 Over PC Versions (Link)

[QUOTE="clyde46"]Blaming a drive failure on a virus. Now I've seen it all. Slimmin360

[QUOTE="clyde46"]Blaming a drive failure on a virus. Now I've seen it all. Slimmin360

viruses?  lol you are just being funny now.

[QUOTE="Slimmin360"][QUOTE="XBOunity"]

hermits are the worst man, 500 posts, wow just makes you shake your head, they still think they are the # 1 gaming market as well right?   

AMD655

Stop being jealous.

[QUOTE="AMD655"]

[QUOTE="Slimmin360"] Yeah it's pretty sad...i think it's hilarious though that they refer to themselves as the master race....that is the funniest thing i've ever heard...LOL.Slimmin360

Stop being jealous.

My PC is already enough to destroy your PS4.

Stay jealous.

Words from an ex console gamer.

"I too am an ex-console gamer. Made the switch to PC and haven't looked back. And the reasons have already been stated numerous times in this thread. So I won't bother with those.

One point I would like to make however...

As someone else mentioned, consoles DO indeed have their place in the gaming world. For example, we, as adults (for the most part) are also computer nerds. At least on this forum, that is. We find PCs interesting. It's not out of the way to want to learn how to tweak a gaming rig for max performance just to play a video game. It comes natural to some of us as the PC is an extension of our interests in technology.

The same cannot be said for say, a 10 yr old that just wants to play the same new games as some older elite PC gamers sometimes are.

My 10 yr old nephew is as much a gamer as I am. But he doesn't have an interest in computers atm. And quite possibly never will. But he still wants to get his game on. That 's where a console comes into play. They are better for his needs. Plop a disc in and play. The end. That's all he needs. And it suits those needs perfectly.

So yeah, consoles are still a viable option for some ppl. And I try not to hate on others just because of the hardware/platform they want to game on. Sometimes it just comes down to what is the best way to get it done for a certain kind of gamer. In the end, it's about the games and the hobby/love for gaming.

Now, if you will excuse me, I need to go explain to my little nephew why BF3 (console version) doesn't look as nice on his parents 60" HDTV as it does on my computers 24" monitor... "

[QUOTE="AMD655"]

[QUOTE="Slimmin360"] Yeah it's pretty sad...i think it's hilarious though that they refer to themselves as the master race....that is the funniest thing i've ever heard...LOL.Slimmin360

Stop being jealous.

my PC beats the PS4 now.  I don't need to upgrade.  I'll also have a PS4.  You jelly?

[QUOTE="AMD655"]

[QUOTE="Slimmin360"] Yeah it's pretty sad...i think it's hilarious though that they refer to themselves as the master race....that is the funniest thing i've ever heard...LOL.Slimmin360

Stop being jealous.

[QUOTE="Slimmin360"][QUOTE="AMD655"]

 

Stop being jealous.

AMD655

My PC is already enough to destroy your PS4.

Stay jealous.

PC

> Youtube Play throughs. They needed to be interesting and there is much more scope to edit and record + mod or play non AAA titles on PC

> Minecraft and all the other spin offs (cube world)

> Indie gaming is massive and growing

> Steam ease of use with purchase / installation and now Workshops Mods.

> MODS, keeps games going longer (Skyrim)

> Kickstarter, this is bringing normal people directly into getting games that they want and not shoved on people like big license console games

> Older games back catalog compatibility, consoles may in future play games from the prior gen now there x86, but as it stands ultra casuals cant play their old games on the new platform..

> The Internet in general with server forums and clans / team discussions / review sites / gaming culture, sub culture

> Development work on pc to make things for phones

> Cheap games!

> Free games!

> no online registration costs

> Consoles cost almost as much as a decent gaming PC primarily because they are morphing into a decent gaming PC but with less choice and more of flashy / ultra casual approach + media APPS. Once you spent $500 on a console and bought a few extra controllers / cameras / chargers etc.. the cheaper games of the more expensive PC starts to balance out.

Its not a hard choice, buy a Media box for 99$ that will take your TV streams or a smart TV or an OUYA(and mod) or a RaspberyPi or even a HDMi wireless phone dongle for 10$ and use your PC for games 

The days of things crashing out and not installing are gone and even so there is lots of help now people are online in order to get things working (which is rare)


ohh forgot to mention other advantages..

your own monitor resolution choice,
your own choice of how many screens you want,
your own mouse, keyboard,controller choice,
your own head set and mic choice

VR headsets and motion control stuff etc..

Graphics? not even close.

Game from 2007.

AMD655

[QUOTE="AMD655"]

PC

> Youtube Play throughs. They needed to be interesting and there is much more scope to edit and record + mod or play non AAA titles on PC

> Minecraft and all the other spin offs (cube world)

> Indie gaming is massive and growing

> Steam ease of use with purchase / installation and now Workshops Mods.

> MODS, keeps games going longer (Skyrim)

> Kickstarter, this is bringing normal people directly into getting games that they want and not shoved on people like big license console games

> Older games back catalog compatibility, consoles may in future play games from the prior gen now there x86, but as it stands ultra casuals cant play their old games on the new platform..

> The Internet in general with server forums and clans / team discussions / review sites / gaming culture, sub culture

> Development work on pc to make things for phones

> Cheap games!

> Free games!

> no online registration costs

> Consoles cost almost as much as a decent gaming PC primarily because they are morphing into a decent gaming PC but with less choice and more of flashy / ultra casual approach + media APPS. Once you spent $500 on a console and bought a few extra controllers / cameras / chargers etc.. the cheaper games of the more expensive PC starts to balance out.

Its not a hard choice, buy a Media box for 99$ that will take your TV streams or a smart TV or an OUYA(and mod) or a RaspberyPi or even a HDMi wireless phone dongle for 10$ and use your PC for games 

The days of things crashing out and not installing are gone and even so there is lots of help now people are online in order to get things working (which is rare)


ohh forgot to mention other advantages..

your own monitor resolution choice,
your own choice of how many screens you want,
your own mouse, keyboard,controller choice,
your own head set and mic choice

VR headsets and motion control stuff etc..

Graphics? not even close.

Game from 2007.

Benny_Blakk

You do know the Swastika translates to "To be Good".

People still fall for this? When will people realize that if you want the best graphics you get a PC not a console?rilpas

[QUOTE="rilpas"]People still fall for this? When will people realize that if you want the best graphics you get a PC not a console?Slimmin360

[QUOTE="rilpas"]People still fall for this? When will people realize that if you want the best graphics you get a PC not a console?Slimmin360

consoles will never have all the graphical features PC have.  End of story.

[QUOTE="Slimmin360"][QUOTE="rilpas"]People still fall for this? When will people realize that if you want the best graphics you get a PC not a console?Vaasman

[QUOTE="Slimmin360"][QUOTE="rilpas"]People still fall for this? When will people realize that if you want the best graphics you get a PC not a console?NFJSupreme

consoles will never have all the graphical features PC have.  End of story.

2560x1600, GTX 480 can run BF3 on Ultra, 64 players, no AA.

Console?

2560x1600, GTX 480 can run BF3 on Ultra, 64 players, no AA.

 

 

Console?

AMD655

[QUOTE="AMD655"]

2560x1600, GTX 480 can run BF3 on Ultra, 64 players, no AA.

 

 

Console?

Slimmin360

Are you stupid?

TV is 1920x1080, it is not even close to 1600p pixel density, the difference is huge.

[QUOTE="AMD655"]

2560x1600, GTX 480 can run BF3 on Ultra, 64 players, no AA.

 

 

Console?

Slimmin360

The latest and greatest PC's and Consoles both run games in 1080p at 30 to 60 fps, do they not? Slimmin360

Okay well anyone who knows anything about PC hardware knows that graphics cards with 2gb or more are not yet being utilized by software as of now

A number of games have gone past 1Gb VRAM usage for me and I'm still onluy at 1080p. I recall Far Cry 3 started that trend for me. If you go past 1080p, then you'll need a video card with as much VRAM it can hold.

very few games require much more than a 2-ghz single or dual core processor to run games, PS4 will have 8 cores. So even the most inexperienced hardware person will see the PS4 is coming to the table with much more hardware then is typically needed to run even the most advanced games.

Most newer games I've seen on the PC now recommend quadcores to get the best performance (in addition to RAM and GPU requirements). Again, Far Cry 3 was the first for me although BF3 may have also been optimized for quadcores.

None of you have to believe me read your system requirements on your retail game boxes and see for yourself how accurate these above statements are.

My games that recommend quadcores or better and at least 3Ghz:

Far Cry 3

Metro Last Light

Hard Reset

Crysis 3

I'm sure others have more.

[QUOTE="Slimmin360"]The latest and greatest PC's and Consoles both run games in 1080p at 30 to 60 fps, do they not? jun_aka_pekto

Okay well anyone who knows anything about PC hardware knows that graphics cards with 2gb or more are not yet being utilized by software as of now

A number of games have gone past 1Gb VRAM usage for me and I'm still onluy at 1080p. I recall Far Cry 3 started that trend for me. If you go past 1080p, then you'll need a video card with as much VRAM it can hold.

very few games require much more than a 2-ghz single or dual core processor to run games, PS4 will have 8 cores. So even the most inexperienced hardware person will see the PS4 is coming to the table with much more hardware then is typically needed to run even the most advanced games.

Most newer games I've seen on the PC now recommend quadcores to get the best performance (in addition to RAM and GPU requirements). Again, Far Cry 3 was the first for me although BF3 may have also been optimized for quadcores.

None of you have to believe me read your system requirements on your retail game boxes and see for yourself how accurate these above statements are.

My games that recommend quadcores or better and at least 3Ghz:

Far Cry 3

Metro Last Light

Hard Reset

Crysis 3

I'm sure others have more.

[QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

[QUOTE="Slimmin360"]The latest and greatest PC's and Consoles both run games in 1080p at 30 to 60 fps, do they not? Slimmin360

Okay well anyone who knows anything about PC hardware knows that graphics cards with 2gb or more are not yet being utilized by software as of now

A number of games have gone past 1Gb VRAM usage for me and I'm still onluy at 1080p. I recall Far Cry 3 started that trend for me. If you go past 1080p, then you'll need a video card with as much VRAM it can hold.

very few games require much more than a 2-ghz single or dual core processor to run games, PS4 will have 8 cores. So even the most inexperienced hardware person will see the PS4 is coming to the table with much more hardware then is typically needed to run even the most advanced games.

Most newer games I've seen on the PC now recommend quadcores to get the best performance (in addition to RAM and GPU requirements). Again, Far Cry 3 was the first for me although BF3 may have also been optimized for quadcores.

None of you have to believe me read your system requirements on your retail game boxes and see for yourself how accurate these above statements are.

My games that recommend quadcores or better and at least 3Ghz:

Far Cry 3

Metro Last Light

Hard Reset

Crysis 3

I'm sure others have more.

You will be locked to old hardware for 10 years, you will pay 60 per game, whilst we pay 30-40 or even less per game.

The costs amounts to around the same, except we have a much better platform in terms of freedom, performance, and graphics.

[QUOTE="Slimmin360"][QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

My games that recommend quadcores or better and at least 3Ghz:

Far Cry 3

Metro Last Light

Hard Reset

Crysis 3

I'm sure others have more.

 

 

AMD655

You will be locked to old hardware for 10 years, you will pay 60 per game, whilst we pay 30-40 or even less per game.

The costs amounts to around the same, except we have a much better platform in terms of freedom, performance, and graphics.

[QUOTE="AMD655"]

[QUOTE="Slimmin360"] Points taken but you would agree that the majority of games do not require ultra hardware specs to be able to run them correct? Knowing that,,,The PS4 is coming out with well more hardware than the majority of games will demand for at least the next 10 years...that's my point.Slimmin360

You will be locked to old hardware for 10 years, you will pay 60 per game, whilst we pay 30-40 or even less per game.

The costs amounts to around the same, except we have a much better platform in terms of freedom, performance, and graphics.

[QUOTE="AMD655"]

[QUOTE="Slimmin360"] Points taken but you would agree that the majority of games do not require ultra hardware specs to be able to run them correct? Knowing that,,,The PS4 is coming out with well more hardware than the majority of games will demand for at least the next 10 years...that's my point.Slimmin360

You will be locked to old hardware for 10 years, you will pay 60 per game, whilst we pay 30-40 or even less per game.

The costs amounts to around the same, except we have a much better platform in terms of freedom, performance, and graphics.

Nope, not forced at all, you really know absolutely nothing.

Its Confirmed PS4 is the best gaming machine at its price. A $400 PC would be dog Shlt at running games.

Safe to say PS4 is compable to a $1000 gaming PC. Better because of Optimization on one piece of hardware just like devs said.

Overall though PC will always be king. Not everyone has $1500 to spend on a top gaming PC to be king though.

Its Confirmed PS4 is the best gaming machine at its price. A $400 PC would be dog Shlt at running games.

Safe to say PS4 is compable to a $1000 gaming PC. Better because of Optimization on one piece of hardware just like devs said.

Overall though PC will always be king. Not everyone has $1500 to spend on a top gaming PC to be king though.

Mrmedia01

I'd like to see the benchmarks that confirm all those statements

Its Confirmed PS4 is the best gaming machine at its price. A $400 PC would be dog Shlt at running games.

Safe to say PS4 is compable to a $1000 gaming PC. Better because of Optimization on one piece of hardware just like devs said.

Overall though PC will always be king. Not everyone has $1500 to spend on a top gaming PC to be king though.

Mrmedia01

You spend way more than 1500 with your console, up front price just makes it look cheap, when it costa an absolute tonne over the years.

[QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

[QUOTE="Slimmin360"]The latest and greatest PC's and Consoles both run games in 1080p at 30 to 60 fps, do they not? Slimmin360

Okay well anyone who knows anything about PC hardware knows that graphics cards with 2gb or more are not yet being utilized by software as of now

A number of games have gone past 1Gb VRAM usage for me and I'm still onluy at 1080p. I recall Far Cry 3 started that trend for me. If you go past 1080p, then you'll need a video card with as much VRAM it can hold.

very few games require much more than a 2-ghz single or dual core processor to run games, PS4 will have 8 cores. So even the most inexperienced hardware person will see the PS4 is coming to the table with much more hardware then is typically needed to run even the most advanced games.

Most newer games I've seen on the PC now recommend quadcores to get the best performance (in addition to RAM and GPU requirements). Again, Far Cry 3 was the first for me although BF3 may have also been optimized for quadcores.

None of you have to believe me read your system requirements on your retail game boxes and see for yourself how accurate these above statements are.

My games that recommend quadcores or better and at least 3Ghz:

Far Cry 3

Metro Last Light

Hard Reset

Crysis 3

I'm sure others have more.

Ten years of PSN is $500.  So its 400 + 500 = $900 to play your console over the next 10 years.  Add $50 bucks for a second controller and its $950.  

For $1000 you could build a PC vastly superior to the PS4 and be done with it. You will be able to run whatever multiplat game the PS4 will ever have.  And in 2 or 3 years you can get a PS4 for dirt cheap and enjoy it's exclussives.  If you can come up with the upfront money PC gaming is a little cheaper over all.  Because you are paying 30 to 40 for games new vs 60 on console and online is free.  Both are expensive hobbies.  Consoles value are in their exclussive games and PC value are in more games, better graphics and performance, cheaper games, less fees, etc. etc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPr8ia-cZOw

Thats right PC fanboys watch it and weep.

Latest gen consoles have not only eliminated the small margin of quality that PC graphics and gameplay had over 360 and PS3 but they have now exceeded the PC versions.

I for one am thrilled, i've always preferred console gaming for it's singularity when it comes to hardware development and controls and just pushing the power button and playing your game within 30 seconds and now the hardware is equal to if not better than most PC's on the market for playing games.

Slimmin360

Its like this 2 gens now , consoles seems to be strong enough as mid/high end Pcs and in a year falling behind. Next GPU series of AMD/NVIDIA and its game over. Thats all

Ahem.......

[QUOTE="Slimmin360"]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPr8ia-cZOw

Thats right PC fanboys watch it and weep.

Latest gen consoles have not only eliminated the small margin of quality that PC graphics and gameplay had over 360 and PS3 but they have now exceeded the PC versions.

I for one am thrilled, i've always preferred console gaming for it's singularity when it comes to hardware development and controls and just pushing the power button and playing your game within 30 seconds and now the hardware is equal to if not better than most PC's on the market for playing games.

AzatiS

Its like this 2 gens now , consoles seems to be strong enough as mid/high end Pcs and in a year falling behind. Next GPU series of AMD/NVIDIA and its game over. Thats all

he is also acting as if PCs are stuck in sand and aren't rapidly advancing every year.  What ever margin he thinks they have cought up to will only be doubled, trippled and so on over the next 5 years.

[QUOTE="Mrmedia01"]

Its Confirmed PS4 is the best gaming machine at its price. A $400 PC would be dog Shlt at running games.

Safe to say PS4 is compable to a $1000 gaming PC. Better because of Optimization on one piece of hardware just like devs said.

Overall though PC will always be king. Not everyone has $1500 to spend on a top gaming PC to be king though.

AMD655

You spend way more than 1500 with your console, up front price just makes it look cheap, when it costa an absolute tonne over the years.

Xbone is even more expensive than 800 .. lol

[QUOTE="AMD655"]

[QUOTE="Mrmedia01"]

Its Confirmed PS4 is the best gaming machine at its price. A $400 PC would be dog Shlt at running games.

Safe to say PS4 is compable to a $1000 gaming PC. Better because of Optimization on one piece of hardware just like devs said.

Overall though PC will always be king. Not everyone has $1500 to spend on a top gaming PC to be king though.

AzatiS

You spend way more than 1500 with your console, up front price just makes it look cheap, when it costa an absolute tonne over the years.

+50 dollars for second controller.  The majority of console gamers will pay for online and buy a second controller minimum.  That is 400+400+5= $850.  If you can come up with that $850 up front you can build a better rig than the PS4 with no hidden fees.  The PC option is cost no more and can be cheaper (or expensive) than console gaming.  The difference is on PC you can CHOOSE to spend a lot or CHOOSE to spend a little.  There is not option for console gamers. You pay whatever one of the big 3 says you pay and deal with it.  

At the end of the day play on which ever platform you want but cost is not a real pro for console gaming.  It is just as expensive as PC gaming.

just in case basement dweller cows forget,but now PS4 is even more weaker on the CPU side considering it reserves 2 cores for the OS just like the xbox one.

''Owing to confidentiality agreements, Reflections couldn't go into too much depth on the relationship of the Onion and Garlic buses with the rest of the PS4's processor, but we suspect that ExtremeTech's block diagram is pretty close to the mark. Note that the PS4 has two Jaguar CPU clusters for eight cores in total, two of which are reserved by the operating system.''

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-how-the-crew-was-ported-to-playstation-4

There is no way to spin these facts provided by Digital Foundry and developers,this is new information not old,your forum post and tears won't change anything..:cool: #STAYMAD.#PCWINSAGAIN.

Damn, along with John Carmack's statement the hermit (and lemmings hiding behind PC) butthurt is off the charts.

Damn, along with John Carmack's statement the hermit (and lemmings hiding behind PC) butthurt is off the charts.

DrTrafalgarLaw

[QUOTE="NFJSupreme"]

[QUOTE="Slimmin360"] The latest and greatest PC's and Consoles both run games in 1080p at 30 to 60 fps, do they not? So you can only be referring to graphical horse power via graphics cards, correct?, Okay well anyone who knows anything about PC hardware knows that graphics cards with 2gb or more are not yet being utilized by software as of now. In fact in most cases the one 1gb graphic cards are more than enough to run most games. Next we move on to ram, and again, usually the more ram in a system the faster and smoother it runs, however in today's machines 6gb of ram is more than enough requirements my existing software and games, and most PC's today use DDR3 and the PS4 is using the superior GDDR5 ram. As far as processing speed goes, very few games require much more than a 2-ghz single or dual core processor to run games, PS4 will have 8 cores. So even the most inexperienced hardware person will see the PS4 is coming to the table with much more hardware then is typically needed to run even the most advanced games. None of you have to believe me read your system requirements on your retail game boxes and see for yourself how accurate these above statements are.Slimmin360

consoles will never have all the graphical features PC have. End of story.

HSA is coming to the PC. http://semiaccurate.com/2013/07/17/keynotes-for-amd-developer-summit-2013-announced/

HSA enabled FrostBite 3 and Unity3D.

[QUOTE="Mrmedia01"]

Its Confirmed PS4 is the best gaming machine at its price. A $400 PC would be dog Shlt at running games.

Safe to say PS4 is compable to a $1000 gaming PC. Better because of Optimization on one piece of hardware just like devs said.

Overall though PC will always be king. Not everyone has $1500 to spend on a top gaming PC to be king though.

AMD655

You spend way more than 1500 with your console, up front price just makes it look cheap, when it costa an absolute tonne over the years.

[QUOTE="Slimmin360"][QUOTE="AMD655"]

 

You will be locked to old hardware for 10 years, you will pay 60 per game, whilst we pay 30-40 or even less per game.

 

The costs amounts to around the same, except we have a much better platform in terms of freedom, performance, and graphics.

clyde46

[QUOTE="AMD655"]

[QUOTE="Mrmedia01"]

Its Confirmed PS4 is the best gaming machine at its price. A $400 PC would be dog Shlt at running games.

Safe to say PS4 is compable to a $1000 gaming PC. Better because of Optimization on one piece of hardware just like devs said.

Overall though PC will always be king. Not everyone has $1500 to spend on a top gaming PC to be king though.

Slimmin360

You spend way more than 1500 with your console, up front price just makes it look cheap, when it costa an absolute tonne over the years.

Define "descent gaming rig". I could build a PC box with AMD CPU and AMD GPU for around $600 USD that smacks PS4 down i.e. the PC would have 7870 XT (AMD Tahiti LE).

[QUOTE="AMD655"]

[QUOTE="Mrmedia01"]

Its Confirmed PS4 is the best gaming machine at its price. A $400 PC would be dog Shlt at running games.

Safe to say PS4 is compable to a $1000 gaming PC. Better because of Optimization on one piece of hardware just like devs said.

Overall though PC will always be king. Not everyone has $1500 to spend on a top gaming PC to be king though.

Slimmin360

You spend way more than 1500 with your console, up front price just makes it look cheap, when it costa an absolute tonne over the years.

So don't tell me the games don't matter when the entire point is using leftover money to buy games.

Also I love how you somehow turned a 900 dollar PC into a 2000 dollar PC after peripherals. What did they buy a 300 dollar keyboard and a 500 dollar speaker set? You do realize that if someone upgrades their PC, the previous keyboard and mouse and other devices will still work, right?

Not to mention you added in the price of an HD monitor which is just getting close to the territory of "oh god just quit now, I'm embarassed for you." Can I add the price of a new HDTV to my PS4? Actually I'm going to buy a projector set with movie theater quality surround sound. Now my PS4 costs 5000 dollars. Guess it's not so cost effective after all to play on consoles.

Here, take this with your viewing of that video:

[QUOTE="Mrmedia01"]

Its Confirmed PS4 is the best gaming machine at its price. A $400 PC would be dog Shlt at running games.

Safe to say PS4 is compable to a $1000 gaming PC. Better because of Optimization on one piece of hardware just like devs said.

Overall though PC will always be king. Not everyone has $1500 to spend on a top gaming PC to be king though.

lostrib

I'd like to see the benchmarks that confirm all those statements

Build me a $399 PC that beat or even tied with the PS4..

You don't need a bench mark to measure that,is simple add components and a GPU that you think that beat the PS4 one,and do the math.

Ahem.......

 

 

 

 

AMD655

For Farmville and candy crush,because PC games sell like sh** in almost all cases,in fact COD sales on consoles eclipse those of PC PS3 or 360,if we join both the beating is even worse.

just in case basement dweller cows forget,but now PS4 is even more weaker on the CPU side considering it reserves 2 cores for the OS just like the xbox one.

''Owing to confidentiality agreements, Reflections couldn't go into too much depth on the relationship of the Onion and Garlic buses with the rest of the PS4's processor, but we suspect that ExtremeTech's block diagram is pretty close to the mark. Note that the PS4 has two Jaguar CPU clusters for eight cores in total, two of which are reserved by the operating system.''

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-how-the-crew-was-ported-to-playstation-4

There is no way to spin these facts provided by Digital Foundry and developers,this is new information not old,your forum post and tears won't change anything..:cool: #STAYMAD.#PCWINSAGAIN.

Tessellation

1) Running: The game is loaded in memory and is fully running. The game has full access to the reserved system resources, which are six CPU cores, 90 percent of GPU processing power, and 5 GB of memory. The game is rendering full-screen and the user can interact with it.

http://kotaku.com/the-five-possible-states-of-xbox-one-games-are-strangel-509597078

1.84 - 1.13 = 701 Gflops.. :lol:

[QUOTE="Slimmin360"][QUOTE="XBOunity"]

hermits are the worst man, 500 posts, wow just makes you shake your head, they still think they are the # 1 gaming market as well right?   

Benny_Blakk

 Funny, huh?

it's meant as a joke so...