Diablo III is the greatest game ever made

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#201 SaltyMeatballs
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Wonder what game it will be next week, stay tuned.
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#202 princeofshapeir
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Wonder what game it will be next week, stay tuned.SaltyMeatballs

Hey guys! Ocarina of Time is the greatest game ever made!

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#203 cain006
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The game is the best iso ARPG I have ever played. Others like Torchlight 2, have less classes, less acts, worse graphics, and to be quite straight forward, are less revolutionary.

How are they nerfing XP and loot farming? THey are making the looting system better and are not changing anything about XP, which is already rather easy to max your char (as intended), if you play enough.

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Ever played Titan Quest? There's 9 classes and you choose two of them every playthrough. Takes a while to beat the game, and plenty of awesome bosses. Also looks about as good as Diablo 3 which is sad considering it came out 5 years ago or so.

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#204 NaveedLife
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[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

The game is the best iso ARPG I have ever played. Others like Torchlight 2, have less classes, less acts, worse graphics, and to be quite straight forward, are less revolutionary.

How are they nerfing XP and loot farming? THey are making the looting system better and are not changing anything about XP, which is already rather easy to max your char (as intended), if you play enough.

cain006

Ever played Titan Quest? There's 9 classes and you choose two of them every playthrough. Takes a while to beat the game, and plenty of awesome bosses. Also looks about as good as Diablo 3 which is sad considering it came out 5 years ago or so.

Played it for a little bit and it felt wrong, looked pretty bad (nowhere near as good as DIII, though maybe not far off technically), and just...wrong. Nothing matched Diablo II for me. Then I played Torchlight and it was the closest thing, though SP and not as good in ways. Path of Exile is also a great contender, but lacks severely in aspects. DIII once again impresses me the most. If I ever play another (by ever I mean within the near future) it would probably be Grim Dawn. GD looks way better than TQ.

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#205 ReadingRainbow4
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I recently played TQ through with the expansion that included hades with an oracle and it looks better than D3. especially from a pure technical perspective.

That game had the best "After Life" world ever, it was really well done.

A major Pro was that It didn't look like a copy and paste of the protoss tech :P

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#206 Truth_Hurts_U
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I recently played TQ through with the expansion that included hades with an oracle and it looks better than D3. especially from a pure technical perspective.

That game had the best "After Life" level ever, it was really well done.

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I should play it again... Just sucks I lost my save game data over the years. Game is epic.
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#207 dracolich55
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I don't anyone can really deny Diablo 3 was a dissapointment, there are a lot of excellent posts on the forums on why its a letdown. In fact, I would link you to them but Blizzard fanboys are on 24/7 patrol on the D3 forums, so.....
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#208 ReadingRainbow4
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just for **** and giggles some screens from TQ.

Was a **** finding screens that were of any quality, blizzard must of went through google to protect D3's integrity.

Game actually looks much better than d3.

If any of you haven't played TQ really you should pick it up it's extremely cheap now and alot of great fun. Still has a strong community even.

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#209 Grawse
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It's fun as hell. Just finished Normal earlier and will start Nightmare later tonight.
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#210 SRTtoZ
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It's fun as hell. Just finished Normal earlier and will start Nightmare later tonight.Grawse

Awesome man. Enjoy it, it only gets better...and harder.

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#211 worknow222
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

Who the hell is Batman?

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Do I NEED TO FACE PALM AGAIN SHAKE.

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#212 HaloPimp978
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Nope I played it and for me its a 7.5

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#213 xxxLUGZxxx
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You're going to get flamed by a bunch of contrarians in here. Blizzard is a magnet for contrarians, because they're the undisputed best game developers in the business, and it's cool to hate the top.

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#214 cain006
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just for **** and giggles some screens from TQ.

Was a **** finding screens that were of any quality, blizzard must of went through google to protect D3's integrity.

Game actually looks much better than d3.

If any of you haven't played TQ really you should pick it up it's extremely cheap now and alot of great fun. Still has a strong community even.

ReadingRainbow4

I think Titan Quest just looks awful in pictures but great in motion. I agree that it looks pretty good, but every picture I've taken of it looks like crap.

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#215 ReadingRainbow4
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[QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"]

just for **** and giggles some screens from TQ.

Was a **** finding screens that were of any quality, blizzard must of went through google to protect D3's integrity.

Game actually looks much better than d3.

If any of you haven't played TQ really you should pick it up it's extremely cheap now and alot of great fun. Still has a strong community even.

cain006

I think Titan Quest just looks awful in pictures but great in motion. I agree that it looks pretty good, but every picture I've taken of it looks like crap.

Yeah I can't find any screens that look nearly as good as I remember playing it a year ago. in motion it's a beast.
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#216 juno84
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[QUOTE="FPSfan1985"][QUOTE="SRTtoZ"]

You're making stuff up. Ive seen Barbs, DH's, Wizards (first to clear inferno btw) and Witch doctors clear inferno. The only class I havent seen beat Diablo in inferno is a monk but ive already said they need a buff. Please stop making stuff up, plus SS got nerfed big time. It went from 3 seconds to 1.5 seconds which makes it much more accurate IMO.

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First off those inferno first kills all used the skip mission bug, they didn't actually clear all the chapters. Second I'm talking about your average gamer here. How many WD or barbs do you know that have cleared act 3 or 4, or even killed a boss with 5 stacks? SS is still completely overpowered, even more so if you have a 48+ disc pool. Even then you get your ass handed to you in the higher acts. Any class can death walk/skip chapters there way through inferno. I'm talking about actually killing elite packs on your way. Right now the only class that can do this is DH, and maybe Wizards if they are super geared.

Thats your problem. Inferno isnt supposed to be easily cleared by your 'average gamer'. This is end game content! Its like saying the average gamer should be able to clear Deathwing content within the first few weeks, its not supposed to be that way. You're supposed to farm and grind (or pay your way) to inferno gear over weeks/months. I admit that I dont play a barb or WD but I group up with people all the time in Acts 3/4 in inferno and run across barbs, wizzies and WD's all the time. This game is far from perfect and it needs tweaking no doubt, but saying inferno is impossible for anyone but DH's is a straight up lie.

Once you learn to stutter step quickly during your shot cycle time and get a fair amount of runspeed (and IAS), DH can blast through quite a bit. There is certainly challenge in not getting hit, but between immunities, DH mobility, and DH damage, people do it every day. I've been plowing along right through A3 in mediocre gear and barely knowing the class. It certainly takes more skill than a monk, but monks mechanics don't allow much room for evasive play. If you are playing a melee, you will get hit, you will have terrible DPS, and you will spend millions of gold more than a DH needs to to progress.

Skill aside, your difficulty in Act 3 and 4 shouldn't really change for DH. If you are a glass canon (like 99% of DHs are) then you won't notice any difference. You'll still get one shot in 1 player, 2 player, 3 player, and 4. If anything, it's going to be HARDER for the DH after the patch due to IAS nerf and its potential to crap all over DH dps and mobility. So melee will have a better time in co-op, players can actually get the gear needed to complete act 2 in act 2, and every class will probably suck more due to IAS nerfs. Everyone wins, right?

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#217 Moriarity_
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At best it'll be goty and even then there are better candidates imo. It's a good game but nowhere near best of all time.
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#218 FPSfan1985
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[QUOTE="SRTtoZ"]

[QUOTE="FPSfan1985"] First off those inferno first kills all used the skip mission bug, they didn't actually clear all the chapters. Second I'm talking about your average gamer here. How many WD or barbs do you know that have cleared act 3 or 4, or even killed a boss with 5 stacks? SS is still completely overpowered, even more so if you have a 48+ disc pool. Even then you get your ass handed to you in the higher acts. Any class can death walk/skip chapters there way through inferno. I'm talking about actually killing elite packs on your way. Right now the only class that can do this is DH, and maybe Wizards if they are super geared.juno84

Thats your problem. Inferno isnt supposed to be easily cleared by your 'average gamer'. This is end game content! Its like saying the average gamer should be able to clear Deathwing content within the first few weeks, its not supposed to be that way. You're supposed to farm and grind (or pay your way) to inferno gear over weeks/months. I admit that I dont play a barb or WD but I group up with people all the time in Acts 3/4 in inferno and run across barbs, wizzies and WD's all the time. This game is far from perfect and it needs tweaking no doubt, but saying inferno is impossible for anyone but DH's is a straight up lie.

Once you learn to stutter step quickly during your shot cycle time and get a fair amount of runspeed (and IAS), DH can blast through quite a bit. There is certainly challenge in not getting hit, but between immunities, DH mobility, and DH damage, people do it every day. I've been plowing along right through A3 in mediocre gear and barely knowing the class. It certainly takes more skill than a monk, but monks mechanics don't allow much room for evasive play. If you are playing a melee, you will get hit, you will have terrible DPS, and you will spend millions of gold more than a DH needs to to progress.

Skill aside, your difficulty in Act 3 and 4 shouldn't really change for DH. If you are a glass canon (like 99% of DHs are) then you won't notice any difference. You'll still get one shot in 1 player, 2 player, 3 player, and 4. If anything, it's going to be HARDER for the DH after the patch due to IAS nerf and its potential to crap all over DH dps and mobility. So melee will have a better time in co-op, players can actually get the gear needed to complete act 2 in act 2, and every class will probably suck more due to IAS nerfs. Everyone wins, right?

Crit hit dmg is already better than ias anyway so I don't think it will be that big a deal. The issue with Act 3 and 4 is all the ranged mobs. I get one shot by bow man and when there is a group of 10 of them dodging becomes quite difficult. Monks are already great in groups if they build super tanky. The dude I farm with has 60k health and 900 resist to all. He can't kill crap but thats why I'm there. This game just isn't fun on inferno if you play solo, it's extremely hard, but in a cheesy way.
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#219 Midnightshade29
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I am loving the hell out of it.

I am in Act II of Nightmare mode now.

This is the first game in I don't know how long that I actually enjoy playing through a second time. I know I will enjoy Inferno and Hell mode as well.

I just find it incredibly addictive.

While it is a great game, it is a bit laggy sometimes.

Also, I certainly did NOT enjoy having my account hacked and all of my items and gold stolen when I was a level 25 in normal mode.

Blizzard needs to get their sh!t together and secure their servers. People are getting hacked left and right in this game.

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I am loving the game too!! Was a big fan of Diablo1 back on PS1 and Diablo 2 (along with baldurs gate) got my to go back to PC gaming , and I stayed a die hard PC only gamer all last gen because of D2... D3 is incredible too. I will be playing for a long long time!!! How did your account get hacked. I don't get how these people do this, or why. Did you use the auction house alot, I have only played multiplayer once in my 60+ hours and haven't used the auction house yet.
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#220 GhoX
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Diablo 3 tries to present a hardcore experience, but it fails to understand the definition of difficulty. (PS: bigger numbers =/= harder) Games such as Severance: BoD, Demon's Souls and Dark Souls have implemented difficulty much better. Diablo 3 is just faceroll until hitting a gear check, grind/buy gear, then resume facerolling until hitting a gear check.
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#221 rjdofu
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Hell no... it isn't even on par with diablo II.

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#222 sonic1564
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Give it to AVGN for the nerd seal of approval. If he s***s on it, then its the nerd seal of disapproval. Besides, Plumbers Don't Wear Ties is the better game.

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#223 HaloinventedFPS
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console gamers jelly

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#224 HaloinventedFPS
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Diablo 3 tries to present a hardcore experience, but it fails to understand the definition of difficulty. (PS: bigger numbers =/= harder) Games such as Severance: BoD, Demon's Souls and Dark Souls have implemented difficulty much better. Diablo 3 is just faceroll until hitting a gear check, grind/buy gear, then resume facerolling until hitting a gear check.GhoX

Diablo 1/2 were exactly the same, its all about grinding for gear, dont compare them to DS/DAS, they are different games

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#225 DarkLink77
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It's actually pretty disappointing, all things considered.

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#226 wis3boi
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Not another Master_ShakeXXX thread...themajormayor

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#227 bobbetybob
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Wonder what game it will be next week, stay tuned.SaltyMeatballs
My bet is "Sleeping Dogs is open world GOTY even if GT5 releases!!!" or "Darksiders 2 is action adventure GOTY, Assassins what?!?!?" or "Far Cry 3 wins the universe!!!"
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#228 GhoX
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[QUOTE="GhoX"]Diablo 3 tries to present a hardcore experience, but it fails to understand the definition of difficulty. (PS: bigger numbers =/= harder) Games such as Severance: BoD, Demon's Souls and Dark Souls have implemented difficulty much better. Diablo 3 is just faceroll until hitting a gear check, grind/buy gear, then resume facerolling until hitting a gear check.HaloinventedFPS

Diablo 1/2 were exactly the same, its all about grinding for gear, dont compare them to DS/DAS, they are different games

D1/2 are indeed all about grinding gear, but those games didn't even bother pretending to be difficult. D3 on the other hand is pretending to be the next big thing in terms of difficulty and challenge with the Inferno mode. Rather than bringing in innovation or interesting mechanics it brought in a lot of bigger numbers and gear checks. I'm not really surprised, since D3 was made by the WoW team.

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#229 John_Read
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blizzard games are very addictive
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#230 campzor
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Master shakes hyping something to the roof again? lol It seems like every new game u play, it ends up being the best game ever lol diablo better than resident evil 4?
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#231 Master_ShakeXXX
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[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] Do I NEED TO FACE PALM AGAIN SHAKE.worknow222

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Who in Gods name is that women?in your sig

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#232 UnrealLegend
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Cool. So what's the greatest game of all time going to be next week? :P

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[QUOTE="GhoX"]Diablo 3 tries to present a hardcore experience, but it fails to understand the definition of difficulty. (PS: bigger numbers =/= harder) Games such as Severance: BoD, Demon's Souls and Dark Souls have implemented difficulty much better. Diablo 3 is just faceroll until hitting a gear check, grind/buy gear, then resume facerolling until hitting a gear check.HaloinventedFPS

Diablo 1/2 were exactly the same, its all about grinding for gear, dont compare them to DS/DAS, they are different games

Diablo 1 was yes, but Diablo 2 had much deeper character customization options. I've level 60 wizard and tell me, what reasons do I have to roll a new wizard? None. In D2 I had level 99 sorceress, but I could still roll a new one and be completely different. I could choose to focus on ice, fire or lightning. I could choose to be a melee sorceress or support sorceress etc. There were plenty of choises that also changed how that character class plays. They simplified way too much with D3 and I don't see playing D3 for years to come.

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#234 ReadingRainbow4
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[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

[QUOTE="GhoX"]Diablo 3 tries to present a hardcore experience, but it fails to understand the definition of difficulty. (PS: bigger numbers =/= harder) Games such as Severance: BoD, Demon's Souls and Dark Souls have implemented difficulty much better. Diablo 3 is just faceroll until hitting a gear check, grind/buy gear, then resume facerolling until hitting a gear check.Icarian

Diablo 1/2 were exactly the same, its all about grinding for gear, dont compare them to DS/DAS, they are different games

Diablo 1 was yes, but Diablo 2 had much deeper character customization options. I've level 60 wizard and tell me, what reasons do I have to roll a new wizard? None. In D2 I had level 99 sorceress, but I could still roll a new one and be completely different. I could choose to focus on ice, fire or lightning. I could choose to be a melee sorceress or support sorceress etc. There were plenty of choises that also changed how that character class plays. They simplified way too much with D3 and I don't see playing D3 for years to come.

I haven't wanted to play it for a week now, I only do so because I have a friend who is an achievement whore. Lmao
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#235 Badosh
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Best game this year, for sure, but best ever? not even close.
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#236 clone01
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So...are all the polls on system wars outrageous?

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Nope, just Master_Shakexxx ones.
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#237 Maroxad
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Far from it

I can at bring up at least 10 things about Diablo 3 that ticked me off.

Story: Diablo 3's story is one of the worst I have ever endured in gaming, the story was offensively bad with stupid characters, plenty of plot holes and extremely predictable and cheesy. Not to mention, Tyrael. Thankfully, Story isnt a big part of the Diablo series.
Combat: Combat is still crappier than what the isometric ARPG Nox had a dozen years ago.
ArtstyIe:While visually appealing, I don't feel that this artstyIe belongs in a Diablo game.
Runes and Skills: Very poorly balanced, especially the runes.
Pacing:Normal is insultingly easy, and as a result, just isnt fun. So that means a few hours until you can actually have fun.
Bosses:With the exception of Belial, none of the bosses were any fun to fight. They completely butchered the butcher.
Class balance (or the lack of it): There is a reason monks and especially barbs are complaining.Thankfully this might be fixed soon.
Service:Online is laggy and the fact that you are forced to be online makes matters only worse.
Lack of Permanency:
All that seperates your char apart from the other is his/her name, gender, class, level and itemization.

The Killing Blow, the Itemization: To say that Diablo 3 has a bad loot system would be a compliment to it. The itemization in Diablo 3 is by far the worst system I have ever seen in a loot based game. Gone are the interesting items and bonuses for you to collect, gone is the sense of any form of customization via gear. Not to say there aren't plenty of affixes around, but only a few of them are actually worth it. Unless said item has the class stat, vit, resist all and resist X... don't bother. The gearing up and itemization in this game is so insultingly linear and so simplistic so that getting new gear just wasn't any fun. Seriously, there are shooters with more sophisticated loot systems than what Diablo 3 has.

Diablo 3 is a mediocre game, a terrible diablo game and a poor lootan game. It is addicting, but it isn't very fun to play. Path of Exile and Torchlight 2 are way better.

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#238 slantedandencha
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haven't logged in in over a week. got boring fast.

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#239 Master_ShakeXXX
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Man gamers are crazy these days. I don't see how any self proclaimed Diablo fan could be let down by this. D3 is as good as it's predecessors if not better. You guys are just making stuff up in your head due to some kind of misplaced need to defend the "honor" of the classics.

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#240 Vari3ty
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Master_ShakeXXX: never failing to create the worst polls ever.

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#241 simomate
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Diablo III is the greatest game ever made Master_ShakeXXX
No. Whats the point in having a poll, if you are gonna only have those 3 positive answers anyway?

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#242 ChubbyGuy40
Member since 2007 • 26442 Posts

Greatest? Nah, but it's definitely a great game. Probably gonna be GOTY but knowing Gamespot they'll just give it to Max Payne 3 since they have a hard-on for Rockstar.

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#243 Vaasman
Member since 2008 • 15879 Posts

Man gamers are crazy these days. I don't see how any self proclaimed Diablo fan could be let down by this. D3 is as good as it's predecessors if not better. You guys are just making stuff up in your head due to some kind of misplaced need to defend the "honor" of the classics.

Master_ShakeXXX

Who gives a **** about honor? Bottom line is it's not even the best RPG of the generation much less best game ever.

Probably won't even be RPG of the year.

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#244 xCocoTheMonkeyx
Member since 2011 • 425 Posts

Oh yes this is the best game ever.. yay looks so much fun :roll:

you sure this isnt a PS1 game?

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finalstar2007
. Will you shut up already
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#245 AdobeArtist  Moderator
Member since 2006 • 25184 Posts

Last week it was batman now it's diablo

Animal-Mother

I was thinking the same thing. I wonder what it will be next week :lol:

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#246 EvanTheGamer
Member since 2009 • 1550 Posts

Dungeon Siege 3 > Diablo 3

Diablo 3, its that bad v_v

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#247 Nanomage
Member since 2011 • 2371 Posts

Dungeon Siege 3 > Diablo 3

Diablo 3, its that bad v_v

EvanTheGamer
Yeah,we can tell just by looking at scores and sales. :lol:
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#248 drinkerofjuice
Member since 2007 • 4567 Posts
Diablo has always been a chore to play, and the genre it's a part of. Going from place to place collecting loot is the epitome of a mindlessly repetitive experience. You really need to stop d1ck riding every game that mildly impresses you.
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#249 AzatiS
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Diablo 3 is the biggest letdown in gaming history and this is coming from a nearly 10 years D2 FANATIC fanboy. Diablo 3 succeed as a single player experience to please Diablo fans but it had/has SO MANY FLAWS as an online multiplayer game that drive people away ( from 9 million users only a mere thousands playing and game is like 1 month old )... I was the one praised D3 like no other game in this generation and im the same guy telling you that D3 is NOT EVEN NEAR to be game of the year let alone best game ever made. Biggest letdown and FASTEST decline ( since its online game officialy ) ever happened in online mmorpg/rpg history. For too many reasons to mention why this happened. period
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#250 AzatiS
Member since 2004 • 14969 Posts
[QUOTE="EvanTheGamer"]

Dungeon Siege 3 > Diablo 3

Diablo 3, its that bad v_v

Nanomage
Yeah,we can tell just by looking at scores and sales. :lol:

You dont want to play the "numbers" game. You really dont