Did Halo kill PC gaming?

Lol.... -edit- Sorry, got the wrong end of the stick. And no, Halo hasn't effected PC gaming in anyway shape or form. PC FPS are still as brutal as ever. Try Stalker or Arma 2 for example. :)

Level 1, 7 posts...*facepalm* Seriously Halo did not kill PC gaming...Also its hard to say something killed PC gaming when PC gaming is alive and doing well.

It's still alive, isn't it? Next question.

I think Halo was the game that really showed that I could get the kind of games I like on a console and didn't need a PC anymore, but clearly not everyone's with me on that.

It's still alive, isn't it? Next question.

I think Halo was the game that really showed that I could get the kind of games I like on a console and didn't need a PC anymore, but clearly not everyone's with me on that.

lowe0

So you like dumbed down, shallow games? Wierd.

It was definitely Big Rigs' fault

[QUOTE="lowe0"]

It's still alive, isn't it? Next question.

I think Halo was the game that really showed that I could get the kind of games I like on a console and didn't need a PC anymore, but clearly not everyone's with me on that.

WhenCicadasCry

So you like dumbed down, shallow games? Wierd.

Halo killed PC gaming

and PC's killed console gaming (COD, online multiplayer, wrpg's anybody?)

How exactly did Halo and Modern Warfare series contribute to this dumbing down?...so I know where you are coming from.

Nothing to see here people. Just a level 1 making his first thread.

[QUOTE="lowe0"]

It's still alive, isn't it? Next question.

I think Halo was the game that really showed that I could get the kind of games I like on a console and didn't need a PC anymore, but clearly not everyone's with me on that.

WhenCicadasCry

So you like dumbed down, shallow games? Wierd.

Maybe he likes fun games?

It was definitely Big Rigs' fault

skinny_man_69

Sure! Lets blame one game for something that is the responsibility of the developer, Deus EX wasnt dumbed down because of Halo, nor was it put on the Xbox because of Halo, it was all the choice of the developers

[QUOTE="lowe0"]

It's still alive, isn't it? Next question.

I think Halo was the game that really showed that I could get the kind of games I like on a console and didn't need a PC anymore, but clearly not everyone's with me on that.

So you like dumbed down, shallow games? Wierd.

Halo did what WoW has done to MMOs... found a nice little area to make the player feel comfortable and rewarded for simple mechanics. Both fun games, but competitivly I would fall asleep even thinking about it let alone watching their pathetic MLG tournements, watching a Halo tournments is the most boring competitive gaming experiance I have ever seen, closly followed by WoW and Gears of War.

Its a shame, doesnt have to be this way, you think bungie would actually add in a "campaign" style Multiplayer mode like Wolf: Enemy Territory has, or Jedi Knight 2: Jedi Academy.... objective way points of attack and defend relying on mulitiple classes with some freedom.

However all FPS (console ones at least) except TF2(which is practically PC) are following this crap forumlar of adding loads of mini-game modes onto copy pasted deathmatch maps, its absolute crap. Domination? hell even Bad Company 2's mission system is abit bland, but i blame that heavily on the dumbing down of classes. (Thanks CoD4 :roll:) classes use to mean more than weapon load outs.... its gone **** tbh.

[QUOTE="skinny_man_69"]

It was definitely Big Rigs' fault

SpiritOfFire117

But the game told me I Am Winner! :cry:

See!

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[QUOTE="lowe0"]

It's still alive, isn't it? Next question.

I think Halo was the game that really showed that I could get the kind of games I like on a console and didn't need a PC anymore, but clearly not everyone's with me on that.

Kickinurass

So you like dumbed down, shallow games? Wierd.

Maybe he likes fun games?

You can get fun, more deep, rewarding games on the PC.

Halo did what WoW has done to MMOs... found a nice little area to make the player feel comfortable and rewarded for simple mechanics. Both fun games, but competitivly I would fall asleep even thinking about it let alone watching their pathetic MLG tournements, watching a Halo tournments is the most boring competitive gaming experiance I have ever seen, closly followed by WoW and Gears of War.

Its a shame, doesnt have to be this way, you think bungie would actually add in a "campaign" style Multiplayer mode like Wolf: Enemy Territory has, or Jedi Knight 2: Jedi Academy.... objective way points of attack and defend relying on mulitiple classes with some freedom.

However all FPS (console ones at least) except TF2(which is practically PC) are following this crap forumlar of adding loads of mini-game modes onto copy pasted deathmatch maps, its absolute crap. Domination? hell even Bad Company 2's mission system is abit bland, but i blame that heavily on the dumbing down of classes. (Thanks CoD4 :roll:) classes use to mean more than weapon load outs.... its gone **** tbh.

Birdy09

Played Killzone 2 yet? It has an identical class system like TF2 without feeling like a clone.

Lol.... -edit- Sorry, got the wrong end of the stick. And no, Halo hasn't effected PC gaming in anyway shape or form. PC FPS are still as brutal as ever. Try Stalker or Arma 2 for example. :)

WhenCicadasCry

PC gaming is still alive so pretty much no.

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[QUOTE="lowe0"]

It's still alive, isn't it? Next question.

I think Halo was the game that really showed that I could get the kind of games I like on a console and didn't need a PC anymore, but clearly not everyone's with me on that.

moose_knuckler

So you like dumbed down, shallow games? Wierd.

I see no flaming, except maybe flaming of Halo itself.

[QUOTE="Birdy09"]

Halo did what WoW has done to MMOs... found a nice little area to make the player feel comfortable and rewarded for simple mechanics. Both fun games, but competitivly I would fall asleep even thinking about it let alone watching their pathetic MLG tournements, watching a Halo tournments is the most boring competitive gaming experiance I have ever seen, closly followed by WoW and Gears of War.

Its a shame, doesnt have to be this way, you think bungie would actually add in a "campaign" style Multiplayer mode like Wolf: Enemy Territory has, or Jedi Knight 2: Jedi Academy.... objective way points of attack and defend relying on mulitiple classes with some freedom.

However all FPS (console ones at least) except TF2(which is practically PC) are following this crap forumlar of adding loads of mini-game modes onto copy pasted deathmatch maps, its absolute crap. Domination? hell even Bad Company 2's mission system is abit bland, but i blame that heavily on the dumbing down of classes. (Thanks CoD4 :roll:) classes use to mean more than weapon load outs.... its gone **** tbh.

xYamatox

Played Killzone 2 yet? It has an identical class system like TF2 without feeling like a clone.

[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

Lol.... -edit- Sorry, got the wrong end of the stick. And no, Halo hasn't effected PC gaming in anyway shape or form. PC FPS are still as brutal as ever. Try Stalker or Arma 2 for example. :)

Midnightshade29

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[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

So you like dumbed down, shallow games? Wierd.

WhenCicadasCry

Maybe he likes fun games?

You can get fun, more deep, rewarding games on the PC.

How exactly did Halo and Modern Warfare series contribute to this dumbing down?...so I know where you are coming from.

dark-warmachine

Halo is the beginning of the end of PC gaming, yes. But it didn't kill it entirely.

Halo was on PC. :P

[QUOTE="lowe0"]

It's still alive, isn't it? Next question.

I think Halo was the game that really showed that I could get the kind of games I like on a console and didn't need a PC anymore, but clearly not everyone's with me on that.

WhenCicadasCry

So you like dumbed down, shallow games? Wierd.

[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"]

It's still alive, isn't it? Next question.

I think Halo was the game that really showed that I could get the kind of games I like on a console and didn't need a PC anymore, but clearly not everyone's with me on that.

Ravensmash

So you like dumbed down, shallow games? Wierd.

Suprisingly, I wouldn't really called Halo dumbed down or shallow. Games like COD where you regenerate health (wtf?) are really dumb and shallow. :P

[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"]

It's still alive, isn't it? Next question.

I think Halo was the game that really showed that I could get the kind of games I like on a console and didn't need a PC anymore, but clearly not everyone's with me on that.

Ravensmash

So you like dumbed down, shallow games? Wierd.

Yeah, one of the most beloved, best & important games of all time is shallow. :roll: Jealous fanboys are jealous...

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

So you like dumbed down, shallow games? Wierd.

WhenCicadasCry

Suprisingly, I wouldn't really called Halo dumbed down or shallow. Games like COD where you regenerate health (wtf?) are really dumb and shallow. :P

Among the best aspects of the FPS genre, started by Halo.

[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

[QUOTE="Kickinurass"]

Maybe he likes fun games?

Midnightshade29

You can get fun, more deep, rewarding games on the PC.

Sins Of A Solar Empire, X3: Terran Conflict? :? Adrian Werners list. Sometimes you got to dig abit deeper.

Halo didn't kill PC gaming. Xbox LIVE killed PC gaming and Halo was just there at the right time.

Im pretty sure that PC gaming is dead.

..but my point was that big league devs have almost all except a few eastern europe devs abandoned pc for the consoles. Midnightshade29

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

So you like dumbed down, shallow games? Wierd.

WhenCicadasCry

Suprisingly, I wouldn't really called Halo dumbed down or shallow. Games like COD where you regenerate health (wtf?) are really dumb and shallow. :P

• Halo

If you could let me know which game on the above list it was, that'd be great.

[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"] Since when was Halo dumbed down or shallow? :PiDefineInfinity

Suprisingly, I wouldn't really called Halo dumbed down or shallow. Games like COD where you regenerate health (wtf?) are really dumb and shallow. :P

Among the best aspects of the FPS genre, started by Halo.

umm, in halo you never regenerate health. :? you regenerate SHEILDS. to regain healthm you find health packs.

CODs system in screwed up though.

and "best aspect of the FPS genre?" oh dear...

[QUOTE="iDefineInfinity"]

[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

Suprisingly, I wouldn't really called Halo dumbed down or shallow. Games like COD where you regenerate health (wtf?) are really dumb and shallow. :P

gamedude234

Among the best aspects of the FPS genre, started by Halo.

umm, in halo you never regenerate health. :? you regenerate SHEILDS. to regain healthm you find health packs.

CODs system in screwed up though.

and "best aspect of the FPS genre?" oh dear...

You're just mad because it was started by Halo. If it were invented by the "Halo killer", :lol:, Killzone, you'd call it the best invention of all time.

[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"] Since when was Halo dumbed down or shallow? :Plowe0

Suprisingly, I wouldn't really called Halo dumbed down or shallow. Games like COD where you regenerate health (wtf?) are really dumb and shallow. :P

• Halo

If you could let me know which game on the above list it was, that'd be great.

The simple fact that you ditched the PC for consoles. Halo 1 on legendary was brutally difficult, but games that followed pretty much hold you by the hand.

I have to say yes, without a doubt. The FPS genre and PC gaming were constantly evolving and becoming more complex. Then Halo came along and dumbed it down for consoles, it became a huge success to many who never played a good PC FPS before Halo. Halo is an easy to get into and an easy to master FPS, it takes no skill and there's nothing deep about this game, people like it because it gives them comfort. PC gaming went into a halt now, many great PC gaming franchises were dumb downed for the Xbox. Such as Deus Ex for example, Invisible War could have been a great game if it wasn't made for the Xbox. Same goes for the Call of Duty with COD4 and MW2. It even dumb downed great console FPS franchise, Turok became a generic space marine shooter like Halo due to Halo's popularity. Halo killed PC gaming and a lot of it's great franchises, Halo dumb downed the genre for the MTV generation of audience.foagoa

Actualy I think that Halo led to ressurgence of pcgaming. PCgaming was heading towards bland mainstream planes. FPSes became so popular they were causing mass extinction of other genres (aside from RTSes of course, but RTS is the main pc genre, far more than FPSes ever were). Halo caused a shift, the biggest devs on pc started to move to consoles and this gave smaller pc devs a room to breath. Suddely the biggst predator moved to another hunting fields. This lead to ressurgence of typicaly pc'ish genres that dominated the platform in late 80s/early 90s. Now, I did think it sucks that the dumbind down of FPS genre was the price of that, but it was a price I gladly paid

It even dumb downed great console FPS franchise, Turok became a generic space marine shooter like Halo due to Halo's popularity.foagoa

What on earth are you talking about? The decline of the Turok series started long before Halo was even announced.

Other than that I'd just like to say that the PC is still the ultimate platform for creative, original and fun shooters. You just need to open your eyes instead of focusing on a few franchises that were never that complex to begin with.

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[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

Suprisingly, I wouldn't really called Halo dumbed down or shallow. Games like COD where you regenerate health (wtf?) are really dumb and shallow. :P

WhenCicadasCry

• Halo

If you could let me know which game on the above list it was, that'd be great.

The simple fact that you ditched the PC for consoles. Halo 1 on legendary was brutally difficult, but games that followed pretty much hold you by the hand.

[QUOTE="gamedude234"]

[QUOTE="iDefineInfinity"]

Among the best aspects of the FPS genre, started by Halo.

iDefineInfinity

umm, in halo you never regenerate health. :? you regenerate SHEILDS. to regain healthm you find health packs.

CODs system in screwed up though.

and "best aspect of the FPS genre?" oh dear...

You're just mad because it was started by Halo. If it were invented by the "Halo killer", :lol:, Killzone, you'd call it the best invention of all time.

No, seriously, Halo never had quick-regenerating health like CoD, or Killzone...... Ever.

Halo:CE had health which had to be regenerated with a health pack.

Halo 2 and 3 has health which regenerates slowly, but can't be seen. This is why sometimes Melee's at the same time would result in one person winning.

Halo 3:ODST, and Halo:Reach both have health packs.