Digital Distribution Is Far Better Than A Disk

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

and what console uses this?

Hewkii

heh. i dont know anybody that has that kind of HD in their PC.

its more expensive and holds less data...

[QUOTE="wayne_kar"][QUOTE="789shadow"]

Until your hard drive breaks, whereby you are toast.

789shadow

Why would just my cases and manuals catch fire? It would probably be a house fire, in which case everything would be toast, including your hard drive.

heh. i dont know anybody that has that kind of HD in their PC.

its more expensive and holds less data...

ogvampire

[QUOTE="Ross_the_B0SS"]

[QUOTE="CannedWorms"]

BioshockOwnz covered what I was going to say so I'll just add to that:

• Millions of jobs will be lost if gaming goes all DD.
• How can we recover our DL'd games if our system breaks (Sony/Microsoft will probaly be too greedy to let use download twice)

BioShockOwnz

I thought downloaded games were tied to your XBL account. Can't you recover arcade games?

You can only recover your downloaded games once a year, right? That's how it was when I had to get a new 360 last winter. Which is completely lame, I might add.

[QUOTE="Hewkii"][QUOTE="ogvampire"]

and what console uses this?

ogvampire

heh. i dont know anybody that has that kind of HD in their PC.

its more expensive and holds less data...

But it's about 10 times faster than Blu-Ray.

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

[QUOTE="Hewkii"] a personal computer.Hanass

heh. i dont know anybody that has that kind of HD in their PC.

its more expensive and holds less data...

But it's about 10 times faster than Blu-Ray.

How many more times expensive is it?

[QUOTE="Hanass"]

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

heh. i dont know anybody that has that kind of HD in their PC.

its more expensive and holds less data...

Burning-Sludge

But it's about 10 times faster than Blu-Ray.

How many more times expensive is it?

The prices are dropping very fast, but Blu-Ray's prices aren't going anywhere. Just a matter of time before SSD's are as cheap as HDD's.

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

heh. i dont know anybody that has that kind of HD in their PC.

its more expensive and holds less data...

Hewkii

holds more than a disc, alot less than a HDD...

i have never had a problem with any of my HDD's. i would much rather have a bigger cheaper priced hdd than a smaller more expensive one.. thanks

[QUOTE="shadowcat2576"][QUOTE="IndigoSunrise"] Why?wayne_kar

i have never had a problem with any of my HDD's.

ogvampire

HDD life expectancy is 3-5 years

ogvampire

[QUOTE="Burning-Sludge"]

[QUOTE="Hanass"]

But it's about 10 times faster than Blu-Ray.

Hanass

How many more times expensive is it?

The prices are dropping very fast, but Blu-Ray's prices aren't going anywhere. Just a matter of time before SSD's are as cheap as HDD's.

I didn't ask if the price was falling. I want to know how much it cost!

[QUOTE="Hanass"]

[QUOTE="Burning-Sludge"]

How many more times expensive is it?

Burning-Sludge

The prices are dropping very fast, but Blu-Ray's prices aren't going anywhere. Just a matter of time before SSD's are as cheap as HDD's.

I didn't ask if the price was falling. I want to know how much it cost!

Which would be pointless because you and I both know that SSD's are extremely expensive now.

Digital Distribution is cool and all, but I like my collection of games that I have.

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

i have never had a problem with any of my HDD's.

Hewkii

HDD life expectancy is 3-5 years

ogvampire

youre apparently wrong

Here is why you are wrong:

Eliminating the used game business means that publishers will have more incentive to to make shorter games with less content and less replay value and then charge you whatever they want for them.

You can't rent a digital download. You'll never have th option to rent a game ever again if we went all digital.

Bluray disks barely scatch so that point is moot.

Not everyone has high speed internet and those who do may not want to bog down their service downloading games.

What's to stop a company from charging more for for propritary storage mediums? MS for example charges $100 for a 60 GB HD for the 360. One game like MGS4 or lost odyssey would fill that whole thing.

Some people actually like having physical copies of the games they download. How are you going to put a digital download under the Cristmas tree?

Digital downloas are good for small games or low quality music and video files. For everything else physical storage is the way to go.

you're apparently wrong

ogvampire

my quote is just fine.

[QUOTE="Burning-Sludge"]

[QUOTE="Hanass"]

The prices are dropping very fast, but Blu-Ray's prices aren't going anywhere. Just a matter of time before SSD's are as cheap as HDD's.

I didn't ask if the price was falling. I want to know how much it cost!

Which would be pointless because you and I both know that SSD's are extremely expensive now.

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

you're apparently wrong

Hewkii

my quote is just fine.

your quote is fine, your assumption is wrong

Theres one thing console gamers dont like.

Now for me to buy a game from town, if I just go for the game and I get there by car, will take me 20 mins if I get a parking space fine.

Now if that said game is Killzone 2, which is a big game, for me to download that would take HOURS.

Wipeout HD took me an hour to download. so what will MGS4 be like???

No, no, and no! A physical copy of any type of medium be it a movie, game, or music (esspecially music) is better than that of a Digital Distributed one.

The prices are dropping very fast, but Blu-Ray's prices aren't going anywhere. Just a matter of time before SSD's are as cheap as HDD's.

Hanass

You do know that pressing a disk is many times cheeper then buying one to burn, right?

When you look at a blueray disk and see that, to a publisher, it has 50GB of data for (i'm operating on old figures) that it's $1.05 for the whole 50 gigs, as opposed to to about the same amount per GIG on an cheep SSD...

Also, where have you been the past two years?

Blueray price has been steadily declining.

There is no way SSD will come close to the price per gig of optical medium.

Anyway, i much rather have a pressed disk then a DD for archival reasons.

Theres one thing console gamers dont like.

Now for me to buy a game from town, if I just go for the game and I get there by car, will take me 20 mins if I get a parking space fine.

Now if that said game is Killzone 2, which is a big game, for me to download that would take HOURS.

Wipeout HD took me an hour to download. so what will MGS4 be like???

No, no, and no! A physical copy of any type of medium be it a movie, game, or music (esspecially music) is better than that of a Digital Distributed one.

DarkGamer007

-No need for used/new gamesIndigoSunrise

And no. Discs will always win because they are more useable. DD would eliminate rentals, and like you said (in a less than unbiased way) you can lend physical copies of games to people so they don't need to buy their own copy of a game they may not like.

And if a game is taken off the virtual store for any reason, it's gone forever. When the media is physical, it may go out of print, but you can always find a copy somewhere if you look for it.

I hate the trend to DD.

Theres one thing console gamers dont like.

Now for me to buy a game from town, if I just go for the game and I get there by car, will take me 20 mins if I get a parking space fine.

Now if that said game is Killzone 2, which is a big game, for me to download that would take HOURS.

Wipeout HD took me an hour to download. so what will MGS4 be like???

[QUOTE="DarkGamer007"]

No, no, and no! A physical copy of any type of medium be it a movie, game, or music (esspecially music) is better than that of a Digital Distributed one.

Hewkii

Aww, that's so cute ^_^

Blatenting ignoring widely accepted terms under pretense of literal analysis to undermine an opposing opinion!

i could just eat you up < 3

[QUOTE="DarkGamer007"]

No, no, and no! A physical copy of any type of medium be it a movie, game, or music (esspecially music) is better than that of a Digital Distributed one.

Hewkii

Music has a physical form. :|

I also like going to the occasional midnight launch. They can be really fun when you got friends to hang out with. I doubt it's the same crowding around in a house for the midnight download release...

[QUOTE="VideoGameGuy"][QUOTE="bubbleboyii"]

You... can keep saying that when your hard drive craps out on you. I'll hang on to my discs.

ogvampire

your harddrive is likely to go out way sooner than a disk that is taken care of

I also like going to the occasional midnight launch. They can be really fun when you got friends to hang out with. I doubt it's the same crowding around in a house for the midnight download release...

Ross_the_B0SS

not only that, but when a big game would arrive, everybody would be trying to download it...

it would take ALOT longer trying to download it on the first day.... that would suck

[QUOTE="Ross_the_B0SS"]

I also like going to the occasional midnight launch. They can be really fun when you got friends to hang out with. I doubt it's the same crowding around in a house for the midnight download release...

ogvampire

not only that, but when a big game would arrive, everybody would be trying to download it...

it would take ALOT longer trying to download it on the first day.... that would suck

Or the servers would crash and nobody would have access to the game.

When "digital Distribution" is called "STEAM", I agree. When you can install your game as many times as you want it makes everything easier... Plus, don't you loose these CDs and their activation codes? Well i do :(

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

[QUOTE="Ross_the_B0SS"]

I also like going to the occasional midnight launch. They can be really fun when you got friends to hang out with. I doubt it's the same crowding around in a house for the midnight download release...

DarkGamer007

not only that, but when a big game would arrive, everybody would be trying to download it...

it would take ALOT longer trying to download it on the first day.... that would suck

Or the servers would crash and nobody would have access to the game.

See DDOS.

basically exactly what would happen.

Just less intentionally malicious.

[QUOTE="DarkGamer007"]

Music has a physical form. :|

Hewkii

Or... A record :o

BuryMe

- "Doesnt take space"? wth? :lol: If i have a 20GB harddrive and install a 8GB game im now left with 12GB (and yes i know what you meant by it).

I will never support full DD because it makes the pre-owned market obsolete. 80% of my purchases are pre-owned so DD is a big no no for me.

video gamers already have the rep with being lazy we dont need this to happen..go outside get some air while u drive to the store sheeshBillGates_Money

some oof the reasons i dont like DD is because its not really like you own the game...its like your paying for access to the game. you cant take it to a friends house....it holds no monetary value after your purchased it because you cant sell it. name anything else that you can buy but not sell? also i could see them attatching the game to your gamertag or account...to only allow that account to access the game...so if you sell your xbox 360, the next person cant play the games at all. the thing that scares me is that im sure the movie industry will move to this and well just have set top boxes to download everything. i just dont like that i dont really feel like i OWN these things and the no monetary value that they have.

[QUOTE="DarkGamer007"]

Music has a physical form. :|

Hewkii

That is strange... *Goes to turntable, puts on a record, and drops the needle*

Kids these days are their digital media.

Most Audiophiles would tell you that Vinyl sounds better than CD's or MP3s. And yes Vinyl is still alive and kicking today, even artists like 50 Cent, Eminem and Lady GaGa have had Vinyl releases of their albums.

[QUOTE="Hewkii"][QUOTE="DarkGamer007"]

Music has a physical form. :|

DarkGamer007

That is strange... *Goes to turntable, puts on a record, and drops the needle*

Kids these days are their digital media.

Most Audiophiles would tell you that Vinyl sounds better than CD's or MP3s. And yes Vinyl is still alive and kicking today, even artists like 50 Cent, Eminem and Lady GaGa have had Vinyl releases of their albums.

But... he said digital media.... Vinyl records are analog.