Do you consider the Wii to be equal?

Or let me rephrase that...

Do you consider the Wii to be on the same ground as the PS3 and the 360?

Is the Wii a substitute for these systems?

I personally say no. We got a Wii because my Wife wanted it for Harvest Moon Wii and some Gamecube games. So far I haven't been impressed with the system as a traditional gaming platform. It has some good party games, and some great novelties like Mario Galaxy, but it lacks meat like Bioshock and Metal Gear Solid. The Wii has its place, but in my opinion it does a worse job of filling the "gamer's" niche than the N64 did (Of course, it still has a few Gamecube games if you haven't played those yet.)

The 360, PS3, and a gaming rig PC are substitutes - a person could be satisfied with only one of those if they are a traditional gamer.

The Wii on the other hand is something else. Not necessarily a bad thing, but it isn't a traditional gaming platform right now, and it's definately not heading in that direction.

Wait, games such as SMG, NMH and MP3 can 't be compared too games such as Bioshock?

There is something awfully wrong with that..

What exactly does these games lack?

Wait, games such as SMG, NMH and MP3 can 't be compared too games such as Bioshock?

There is something awfully wrong with that..

What exactly does these games lack?

omgimba

Depth.

That is to say, Storyline, Detail, and unique Personality.

In the case of NMH, it's lacking a point.

[QUOTE="omgimba"]

Wait, games such as SMG, NMH and MP3 can 't be compared too games such as Bioshock?

There is something awfully wrong with that..

What exactly does these games lack?

mstc_Q

Depth.

That is to say, Storyline, Detail, and unique Personality.

In the case of NMH, it's lacking a point.

You think MP3 has less depth than Bioshock? LOL. And how is NMH lacking a point? What's the point of games is it not to have fun and to be entertained, well then how is NMH lacking that...

[QUOTE="mstc_Q"][QUOTE="omgimba"]

Wait, games such as SMG, NMH and MP3 can 't be compared too games such as Bioshock?

There is something awfully wrong with that..

What exactly does these games lack?

bobbetybob

Depth.

That is to say, Storyline, Detail, and unique Personality.

In the case of NMH, it's lacking a point.

You think MP3 has less depth than Bioshock? LOL. And how is NMH lacking a point? What's the point of games is it not to have fun and to be entertained, well then how is NMH lacking that...

Apparently you haven't played Bioshock.

The way i see it is the Wii will be a casual gamers primary console but a hardcore gamers secondary consolemicky4889

Wait, games such as SMG, NMH and MP3 can 't be compared too games such as Bioshock?

There is something awfully wrong with that..

What exactly does these games lack?

omgimba

smg is kiddish platformer(fair enough)

NMH is an action/adventure with little depth.

and MP3 is actually good.

but one good shooter isn't enough imo.

in the other three alternatives theres much more to do after u finish one game. each genre is well covered.

[QUOTE="mstc_Q"][QUOTE="omgimba"]

Wait, games such as SMG, NMH and MP3 can 't be compared too games such as Bioshock?

There is something awfully wrong with that..

What exactly does these games lack?

bobbetybob

Depth.

That is to say, Storyline, Detail, and unique Personality.

In the case of NMH, it's lacking a point.

You think MP3 has less depth than Bioshock? LOL. And how is NMH lacking a point? What's the point of games is it not to have fun and to be entertained, well then how is NMH lacking that...

you havent played bioshck O_o

[QUOTE="mstc_Q"][QUOTE="omgimba"]

Wait, games such as SMG, NMH and MP3 can 't be compared too games such as Bioshock?

There is something awfully wrong with that..

What exactly does these games lack?

bobbetybob

Depth.

That is to say, Storyline, Detail, and unique Personality.

In the case of NMH, it's lacking a point.

You think MP3 has less depth than Bioshock? LOL. And how is NMH lacking a point? What's the point of games is it not to have fun and to be entertained, well then how is NMH lacking that...

LMAO Bioshock is just insanely better compared to MP3! lmao. MP3 has shallow scifi story, childish even. gameplay lacks depth. Bioshock is far more engrossing. NMH gameplay is just dull. NG2 pwns!

[QUOTE="micky4889"]The way i see it is the Wii will be a casual gamers primary console but a hardcore gamers secondary consoleLord_Omikron666

Then you are one of the few exception since The vast majority of Wii owners on system wars have either a 360 or a PS3 and use the Wii to complement it hence my point stands ( There are very few people who would consider the Wii or its games "hardcore" ever wondered why it is always the 360 vs PS3? or PC vs PS3 vs 360 ? on system wars

i'm a wii only owner in i'm very happy with my console of choice.

@feryl06 your wrong

Tell you what the Wii offers me... a different gaming experiance don't get me wrong I love the games I have for the 360/PS3 but it offers me different experiances.. For Example

Games like Zack and Wiki.... a decent point and click adventure has been missing for a good 15years...

also the control scheme if done correctly it works well see Medal of Honour Heroes for example even

and the ability for the whole famaily to get involved in Mario and Sonic @ the Olympics or Wii Sports or Mario Kart or SSBM... because belive it or not my dad and mum aint exactly impressed with GTA4 e.t.c

+ the Virtual Console

+ 1st Party titles... MP3, SMG e.t.c

[QUOTE="omgimba"]

Wait, games such as SMG, NMH and MP3 can 't be compared too games such as Bioshock?

There is something awfully wrong with that..

What exactly does these games lack?

mstc_Q

Depth.

That is to say, Storyline, Detail, and unique Personality.

In the case of NMH, it's lacking a point.

i voted 2 but wii and any thing else would be the best if you only have 2

pcwii and out i go

The Wii something else, but not necessarily bad.

Like, I have a Wii, PS3, and a gaming PC. I don't think I could survive on just the Wii. But if I only had a 360, PS3, or gaming PC, I feel like I could do just fine.

No the Wii is not equal, it's superior.DaBrainz

No the Wii is not equal, it's superior.DaBrainz

LOL...sure...

No the Wii is not equal, it's superior.DaBrainz

lol.

[QUOTE="omgimba"]

Wait, games such as SMG, NMH and MP3 can 't be compared too games such as Bioshock?

There is something awfully wrong with that..

What exactly does these games lack?

Great_Ragnarok

smg is kiddish platformer(fair enough)

NMH is an action/adventure with little depth.

and MP3 is actually good.

but one good shooter isn't enough imo.

in the other three alternatives theres much more to do after u finish one game. each genre is well covered.

If you mean its kiddish in the way theres no blood, sex or violence then yeah its kiddish, but there are many hardcore and casual gamers who own the game and many adults

Heck it even got GOTY

And just because its kiddish doesn't mean its good?

It should say " smg is a kiddish yet amazing platformer (fair enough)"

A rare thing occurred to me with the Wii. It completely satisfies me in my gaming needs as, unlike in previous gaming generations, I don't have the feeling that I need another console to fully experience the games of this generation. Maybe there aren't hundreds of good traditional gaming titles available for the Wii, but how many games will you buy for one platform? I'll probably get around 25, and I currently have 7 excellent Wii games and a lot of other stuff I still want to get, and we aren't even halfway this generations. It's just that people parrot eachother with this 'Wii only has casual games' crap and I'm getting a bit sick of it. I like it that Nintendo tries to put a bit more creativity in their traditional titles (Galaxy as opposed to Sunshine, Mario Kart Wii as opposed to Double Dash), because if it were up to the so-called 'hardcore gamers', only carbon copies of old video game franchises would be released from now on because a lot of them seem to be afraid of progress (refer to the Star Fox Wii topic for that).

Wii is more equal to the last gen, I personally think the PS2 is better than the Wii and that the wii can never compete to the real consoles.plod2

if the ps2 was not real then what is a real console ...in your mind

No.

That said, it's similar enough to be compared to the 360, PS3 and PC.

But obviously Nintendo has engaged in a very different strategy to how these other platforms work in terms of hardware, and appeal.

There is enoght games where I could just own a Wii. But I choose not too miss any games.

[QUOTE="Great_Ragnarok"][QUOTE="omgimba"]

Wait, games such as SMG, NMH and MP3 can 't be compared too games such as Bioshock?

There is something awfully wrong with that..

What exactly does these games lack?

fabz_95

smg is kiddish platformer(fair enough)

NMH is an action/adventure with little depth.

and MP3 is actually good.

but one good shooter isn't enough imo.

in the other three alternatives theres much more to do after u finish one game. each genre is well covered.

If you mean its kiddish in the way theres no blood, sex or violence then yeah its kiddish, but there are many hardcore and casual gamers who own the game and many adults

Heck it even got GOTY

And just because its kiddish doesn't mean its good?

It should say " smg is a kiddish yet amazing platformer (fair enough)"

I'd say the issue is not so much content, but theme seperating many Wii games from non-Wii games. You can also really talk about Wii games in much more general terms because most of the worthy ones come from a single developer and the studios it controls.

But anyway Bioshock (though it really just lifts a lot from System Shock 2) tries to do something that neither MP3, SMG or NMH tries to do.

It strives to be more than just fun, it tries to make you think as you play (which, if your the right sort of gamer, makes things even more fun).

Without being too pretentious, Bioshock (really SS2) is a game that's trying to transform the medium by ascension. Nintendo's strategy alternatively is descension (not necessarily negative mind you), creating appeal by making things simpler and more accessible.

the wii is equal with a gamecube nothing more lollegol1

You do know that would not be a bad thing....Look at the top 20 games on Gamerankings. The GC and PS2 are tied and one of the PS2 games are a port from the GC. Also note only 1 Xbox title.

The highest rank game from last gen was Metroid Prime.

[QUOTE="bobbetybob"][QUOTE="mstc_Q"][QUOTE="omgimba"]

Wait, games such as SMG, NMH and MP3 can 't be compared too games such as Bioshock?

There is something awfully wrong with that..

What exactly does these games lack?

mstc_Q

Depth.

That is to say, Storyline, Detail, and unique Personality.

In the case of NMH, it's lacking a point.

You think MP3 has less depth than Bioshock? LOL. And how is NMH lacking a point? What's the point of games is it not to have fun and to be entertained, well then how is NMH lacking that...

Apparently you haven't played Bioshock.

In terms os Storyline, I gotta go with MP3. The high content of story you get through the scans is bigger (and deeper) than the one you get with the recorders in Bioshock.

In gameplay, I'd also gowith MP3, due the nice use of the WiiMote. The Adam tonics and weapons of Bioshock also are really good.

Personality: Bioshock, no doubt.

Detail: I'd say Draw.

IMO, both games are great, but I must agree that MP3 is a little deeper (the hole MP series, IMO)

Back to topic, I think that this gen is impossible to have just one console. Only with one console you'll miss a lot of great experiences.

Is the Wii equal to its competitors? Hell yeah. If you decided just to have one console, the Wii is a good choice. As good a s a 360 or a PS3, IMO.

Of course, the best is that you get more than one.

[QUOTE="fabz_95"][QUOTE="Great_Ragnarok"][QUOTE="omgimba"]

Wait, games such as SMG, NMH and MP3 can 't be compared too games such as Bioshock?

There is something awfully wrong with that..

What exactly does these games lack?

Danm_999

smg is kiddish platformer(fair enough)

NMH is an action/adventure with little depth.

and MP3 is actually good.

but one good shooter isn't enough imo.

in the other three alternatives theres much more to do after u finish one game. each genre is well covered.

If you mean its kiddish in the way theres no blood, sex or violence then yeah its kiddish, but there are many hardcore and casual gamers who own the game and many adults

Heck it even got GOTY

And just because its kiddish doesn't mean its good?

It should say " smg is a kiddish yet amazing platformer (fair enough)"

I'd say the issue is not so much content, but theme seperating many Wii games from non-Wii games. You can also really talk about Wii games in much more general terms because most of the worthy ones come from a single developer and the studios it controls.

But anyway Bioshock (though it really just lifts a lot from System Shock 2) tries to do something that neither MP3, SMG or NMH tries to do.

It strives to be more than just fun, it tries to make you think as you play (which, if your the right sort of gamer, makes things even more fun).

Without being too pretentious, Bioshock (really SS2) is a game that's trying to transform the medium by ascension. Nintendo's strategy alternatively is descension (not necessarily negative mind you), creating appeal by making things simpler and more accessible.

Actually, you don't have to think that much in Bioshock. You can finish the game just rushing, and, if you are killed, come back to the chambers and then rush again. The game would have been so much better without that chambers.

Also,fighting against any boss of any Metroid Prime on Hard... that's what I call thinking as you play...

The Wii would be able to fill in certain gaming gaps but by no means could I have just a Wii and be satisfied.Jade_Monkey

I use to like my Wii. I use to say lots of good things about it. But over time, i have grown dis-interested in this system. Its not equal, not even close, to the other two system. Its just one big disappointment. The games and controls are just lacking in practically every respect. I still have my Wii, but i have sold every game i ever owned for that system. Now it just sits there, and i wonder how long it will be before i purchase another game for that system. The Conduit is not until next year.

[QUOTE="Jade_Monkey"]The Wii would be able to fill in certain gaming gaps but by no means could I have just a Wii and be satisfied.air_wolf_cubed

That's a winner combination.

The way i see it is the Wii will be a casual gamers primary console but a hardcore gamers secondary consolemicky4889

[QUOTE="micky4889"]The way i see it is the Wii will be a casual gamers primary console but a hardcore gamers secondary consoleBubblehash

And yeah, you the one that judges who is harcore and who not. :roll:

[QUOTE="micky4889"]The way i see it is the Wii will be a casual gamers primary console but a hardcore gamers secondary consoleBubblehash

[QUOTE="Bubblehash"][QUOTE="micky4889"]The way i see it is the Wii will be a casual gamers primary console but a hardcore gamers secondary consoleair_wolf_cubed

wow man, that's a hell of an argument you got there.

[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="Bubblehash"][QUOTE="micky4889"]The way i see it is the Wii will be a casual gamers primary console but a hardcore gamers secondary consoleqewrewq

wow man, that's a hell of an argument you got there.

[QUOTE="qewrewq"]

[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="Bubblehash"][QUOTE="micky4889"]The way i see it is the Wii will be a casual gamers primary console but a hardcore gamers secondary consoleair_wolf_cubed

wow man, that's a hell of an argument you got there.

definitely.

Wii could substitute a PS2 (in terms of affordability, casual games and mass market appeal, etc), but not for PS3, 360 or PC IMO.PandaBear86

Wii is more expensive that a 360 in the UK but Wii outsells the 360!

Sorry your post if flawed from the go.