Do You Have a Problem With Female Lead Characters?

[QUOTE="wis3boi"]Generic white guy with brown hair is getting staleSNIPER4321

no one cares about your dumb ideas

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"]you mean the defining role of the most prolific voice acress in gaming history?

N30F3N1X

What?

So rush the game and get the worst ending......because thats how James and Liara can die. A 64% survival rate of Liara shows gamers rushing the game.texaszergrush

Lolwut.

I completed every sidequest I could get my hands on and none of my companions died. Try harder.

[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

[QUOTE="SNIPER4321"] so you want barbie inspired character more??SNIPER4321

no one cares about your dumb ideas

[QUOTE="jessejay420"]for those of you who say women cant be tough..well there are women in the military that would clean our fvcking clocks in a second.caseypayne69

Jennifer Hale...ring a bell? No, thats how a lot of people played the game according to Bioware's data.texasgoldrush

Yeah, most monotonous voice actress I've ever heard. Definitely rings a bell considering it was the only voice acting in history I couldn't stand after the doctor guy in Dead Space.

aren't they switching the protagonist in mirrors edge 2 to male?

God bless Bayonetta :D

And Samus. Specially Samus.

don't have a problem with female or male lead characters,and i don't care if the lead female has a boyfriend or not. 

No, there should be more.  Generic white guy with brown hair is getting stale

wis3boi

"Dontnod Entertainment's Remember Me set in Neo-Paris 2084, the game stars Nilin, a memory hunter got a lot of dismissals from publishers thanks to its female lead. For some publishers, successful games and male leads are synonymous, so when creative director Jean-Max Morris and his crew were shopping for publishers, this spurred the cold shoulder.

"We had some that said, 'Well, we don't want to publish it because that's not going to succeed. You can't have a female character in games. It has to be a male character, simple as that,'" Morris told The Penny Arcade Report. Capcom, of course, didn't seem to mind.

Morris said the decision to have a female lead was "something that just felt right from the beginning" of development. "It's one of those things that we never looked at from a pure, cold marketing perspective because that would have endangered the consistency of the whole game." That's not to say Morris didn't receive the advice to switch Nilin from a girl to a guy, but changing Nilin would've been relatively impossible for the stage Remember Me was at. Still, hypothetically that change would've brought its own set of problems.

One anecdote Morris talked about is a scene where we see Nilin kiss a man and Morris was told that scene wouldn't work if she was switched to a guy, even though technically it would be far from the first depiction of same-sex romance in video games. "We had people tell us, 'You can't make a dude like the player kiss another dude in the game, that's going to feel awkward.'" For Morris, that response is puzzling. "I'm like, 'If you think like that, there's no way the medium's going to mature,'" he said. "There's a level of immersion that you need to be at, but it's not like your sexual orientation is being questioned by playing a game. I don't know, that's extremely weird to me."

http://www.joystiq.com/2013/03/20/publishers-rejected-remember-me-because-of-female-lead/

PSP107

[QUOTE="PSP107"]

"Dontnod Entertainment's Remember Me set in Neo-Paris 2084, the game stars Nilin, a memory hunter got a lot of dismissals from publishers thanks to its female lead. For some publishers, successful games and male leads are synonymous, so when creative director Jean-Max Morris and his crew were shopping for publishers, this spurred the cold shoulder.

"We had some that said, 'Well, we don't want to publish it because that's not going to succeed. You can't have a female character in games. It has to be a male character, simple as that,'" Morris told The Penny Arcade Report. Capcom, of course, didn't seem to mind.

Morris said the decision to have a female lead was "something that just felt right from the beginning" of development. "It's one of those things that we never looked at from a pure, cold marketing perspective because that would have endangered the consistency of the whole game." That's not to say Morris didn't receive the advice to switch Nilin from a girl to a guy, but changing Nilin would've been relatively impossible for the stage Remember Me was at. Still, hypothetically that change would've brought its own set of problems.

One anecdote Morris talked about is a scene where we see Nilin kiss a man and Morris was told that scene wouldn't work if she was switched to a guy, even though technically it would be far from the first depiction of same-sex romance in video games. "We had people tell us, 'You can't make a dude like the player kiss another dude in the game, that's going to feel awkward.'" For Morris, that response is puzzling. "I'm like, 'If you think like that, there's no way the medium's going to mature,'" he said. "There's a level of immersion that you need to be at, but it's not like your sexual orientation is being questioned by playing a game. I don't know, that's extremely weird to me."

http://www.joystiq.com/2013/03/20/publishers-rejected-remember-me-because-of-female-lead/

Benny_Blakk

How is that forced?

[QUOTE="wis3boi"]Generic white guy with brown hair is getting staleSNIPER4321

[QUOTE="SNIPER4321"][QUOTE="wis3boi"]Generic white guy with brown hair is getting staleArisShadows

Don't go seeking logic from SNIPER. That would be like trying to find bacon at a kosher restaurant ;) :P

[QUOTE="ArisShadows"]

[QUOTE="SNIPER4321"] so you want barbie inspired character more??AdobeArtist

Don't go seeking logic from SNIPER. That would be like trying to get bacon from a kosher restaurant ;) :P

[QUOTE="caseypayne69"][QUOTE="jessejay420"]for those of you who say women cant be tough..well there are women in the military that would clean our fvcking clocks in a second.jessejay420

My point is that there is a bigger better badass male for every badass woman. Genetics wins.caseypayne69

1939 called, the germans want their master race back

[QUOTE="AD216"]women belong in the kitchen, not being lead characters in games. sidekicks at best lmmfaojessejay420

No I do not. My favorite game, Mirrors Edge, has a female lead. 

Only female characters I find realistic are the female Sims managing my Sims kitchen. I can't suspend my disbelief long enough to enjoy something like Mirror's Edge or Tomb Raider.Xaero_Gravity

I honestly don't care about the gender. 

[QUOTE="PSP107"]

"Dontnod Entertainment's Remember Me set in Neo-Paris 2084, the game stars Nilin, a memory hunter got a lot of dismissals from publishers thanks to its female lead. For some publishers, successful games and male leads are synonymous, so when creative director Jean-Max Morris and his crew were shopping for publishers, this spurred the cold shoulder.

"We had some that said, 'Well, we don't want to publish it because that's not going to succeed. You can't have a female character in games. It has to be a male character, simple as that,'" Morris told The Penny Arcade Report. Capcom, of course, didn't seem to mind.

Morris said the decision to have a female lead was "something that just felt right from the beginning" of development. "It's one of those things that we never looked at from a pure, cold marketing perspective because that would have endangered the consistency of the whole game." That's not to say Morris didn't receive the advice to switch Nilin from a girl to a guy, but changing Nilin would've been relatively impossible for the stage Remember Me was at. Still, hypothetically that change would've brought its own set of problems.

One anecdote Morris talked about is a scene where we see Nilin kiss a man and Morris was told that scene wouldn't work if she was switched to a guy, even though technically it would be far from the first depiction of same-sex romance in video games. "We had people tell us, 'You can't make a dude like the player kiss another dude in the game, that's going to feel awkward.'" For Morris, that response is puzzling. "I'm like, 'If you think like that, there's no way the medium's going to mature,'" he said. "There's a level of immersion that you need to be at, but it's not like your sexual orientation is being questioned by playing a game. I don't know, that's extremely weird to me."

http://www.joystiq.com/2013/03/20/publishers-rejected-remember-me-because-of-female-lead/

[QUOTE="jessejay420"][QUOTE="caseypayne69"] I don't remember hearing any females in seal team six.caseypayne69

I don't really care, but if given an option to play male or female like Skyrim, I pick male...because, well, I'm male and it makes more sense!!!

Usually.  It's not because the lead is a female, it's just because the game's usually suck and go out of their way to show that the lead character is female, and then they even **** that up.  Like Tomb Raider.

But if it's like Metroid then i'm all for it.

[QUOTE="caseypayne69"][QUOTE="jessejay420"] a female in the military doesnt have to be seal team six in order to beat up some random guy who sits at a computer playing league of legends and eats cheetos and never works out. dont underestimate some of those b!tches. there are some tough women out there that can kick some serious a$$.PSP107

for those of you who say women cant be tough..well there are women in the military that would clean our fvcking clocks in a second.jessejay420

If you're weak, or just semi strong vs. a perfectly trained and conditioned woman, then yeah.

[QUOTE="jessejay420"]for those of you who say women cant be tough..well there are women in the military that would clean our fvcking clocks in a second.Chozofication

If you're weak, or just semi strong vs. a perfectly trained and conditioned woman, then yeah.

[QUOTE="Chozofication"]

[QUOTE="jessejay420"]for those of you who say women cant be tough..well there are women in the military that would clean our fvcking clocks in a second.jessejay420

If you're weak, or just semi strong vs. a perfectly trained and conditioned woman, then yeah.

I'm not talking about a pathetic thug.  I'm talking about a Man that takes physical training and self defense very seriously.

There's no doubt in my mind that *some* Women could destroy me at this point in time, but a Man vs. Woman, both at their peak, the woman would lose badly.

[QUOTE="jessejay420"]for those of you who say women cant be tough..well there are women in the military that would clean our fvcking clocks in a second.Chozofication

If you're weak, or just semi strong vs. a perfectly trained and conditioned woman, then yeah.

[QUOTE="Chozofication"]

[QUOTE="jessejay420"]for those of you who say women cant be tough..well there are women in the military that would clean our fvcking clocks in a second.princeofshapeir

If you're weak, or just semi strong vs. a perfectly trained and conditioned woman, then yeah.

Just nature and fact.  If it was sexism I would say something stupid about Women, which I haven't.  Women can do anything a Man can physically, just to a lesser extent.

Vice versa for Women in other area's.

[QUOTE="jessejay420"][QUOTE="Chozofication"]

If you're weak, or just semi strong vs. a perfectly trained and conditioned woman, then yeah.

Chozofication

I'm not talking about a pathetic thug.  I'm talking about a Man that takes physical training and self defense very seriously.

There's no doubt in my mind that *some* Women could destroy me at this point in time, but a Man vs. Woman, both at their peak, the woman would lose badly.

[QUOTE="Chozofication"]

[QUOTE="jessejay420"] sorry but thats not always the case. see my last post.jessejay420

I'm not talking about a pathetic thug.  I'm talking about a Man that takes physical training and self defense very seriously.

There's no doubt in my mind that *some* Women could destroy me at this point in time, but a Man vs. Woman, both at their peak, the woman would lose badly.

And i'm not talking generally like you are, never was, you just have to think about what you're reading...

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="Chozofication"]

If you're weak, or just semi strong vs. a perfectly trained and conditioned woman, then yeah.

Chozofication

Just nature and fact.  If it was sexism I would say something stupid about Women, which I haven't.  Women can do anything a Man can physically, just to a lesser extent.

Vice versa for Women in other area's.

[QUOTE="jessejay420"][QUOTE="Chozofication"]

I'm not talking about a pathetic thug.  I'm talking about a Man that takes physical training and self defense very seriously.

There's no doubt in my mind that *some* Women could destroy me at this point in time, but a Man vs. Woman, both at their peak, the woman would lose badly.

Chozofication

And i'm not talking generally like you are, never was, you just have to think about what you're reading...

[QUOTE="Chozofication"]

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"] Oh, the sexism. jessejay420

Just nature and fact.  If it was sexism I would say something stupid about Women, which I haven't.  Women can do anything a Man can physically, just to a lesser extent.

Vice versa for Women in other area's.

Flexibility, sometimes, that's it.

[QUOTE="jessejay420"][QUOTE="Chozofication"]

Just nature and fact.  If it was sexism I would say something stupid about Women, which I haven't.  Women can do anything a Man can physically, just to a lesser extent.

Vice versa for Women in other area's.

Chozofication

Flexibility, sometimes, that's it.

Not really interested in playing female chars.

Females are just big moomoocows that lay on their back and talk alot of schit in that annoying high-pitched voice.

If it wasn't for vag I'd have no use for em.

No

Nobody cares, why is this such a big deal all of a sudden

No

Nobody cares, why is this such a big deal all of a sudden

HaloinventedFPS

 

Not really interested in playing female chars.

Females are just big moomoocows that lay on their back and talk alot of schit in that annoying high-pitched voice.

If it wasn't for vag I'd have no use for em.

LazySloth718