Do you really trust Microsoft?

I mean how do you know that after a year or two they ain't changing their policies again?

I mean MS is a bitch company and they're pretty shady... NSA and all this spying stuff. Tweaking their products to show false results... pic is hilarious tho.


Edit: Added the following content cause people were getting butthurt

Okay a lot of people misunderstood... I never said that MS is the devil and Sony the princess. I'm a "cow" to some degree and still I know what Sony represents. All these multibillion corporation all they care about is profit and what's the best way to milk consumers... such is the capitalistic world we're living in where anything is justified.

Also WilliamRLBaker keep in mind that we're talking about gaming companies over here, I know that banks are literally stealing and killing people but it's a gaming forum. Were you expecting me to open a topic about JP Morgan or Barclays? My point is that MS might be one of the worst in the industry when it comes to lying and delivering anti-consumer policies.

They changed now because they were forced not because they were enlightened, so my question is... after knowing Microsoft's history are you still going to trust them by buying Xbox One? For some reason I still believe that after a year or two they'll bring another surprise or might even go back to DRM claiming something like "Market is ready now".

With my life. ShoulderOfOrion

do you trust any company?

With my life. ShoulderOfOrion

Come home baby

Of course not. But it's best to just hope that M$ has the common sense to not bring their policies back.

I mean how do you know that after a year or two they ain't changing their policies again?

V3rciS

How do we know Sony or Nintendo won't?

Lemmings do

[QUOTE="ShoulderOfOrion"]With my life. Badosh

Hell no, I wouldn't truest them farther than I can throw myself.

I trust them as much as I would trust any other large billion dollar corporation.

In other words not that much.

oh yes who would not trust a company like MSshadiezz2012

The X1 USED to be amazing.  Now it's trash just like the PS4.

And shady wtf?  NSA?  You guys still think kinect is spying on you hahaha!

[QUOTE="V3rciS"]

I mean how do you know that after a year or two they ain't changing their policies again?

Ly_the_Fairy

How do we know Sony or Nintendo won't?

I don't trust them to keep providing enough interesting content after the first several years. Fool me once and all that.darkspineslayer

Nope

[QUOTE="ShoulderOfOrion"]With my life. heeweesRus

Come home baby

after all the backlash that made them take away the drm and online requirement in the first place you think they're scheming to restore it later once people are lured in?

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[QUOTE="V3rciS"]

I mean how do you know that after a year or two they ain't changing their policies again?

darkspineslayer

How do we know Sony or Nintendo won't?

And what does that tell me other than that MS listened to their fans?

That's a GOOD thing. A company is willing to change their product based on what their fans want. 

The X1 USED to be amazing.  Now it's trash just like the PS4.

 

And shady wtf?  NSA?  You guys still think kinect is spying on you hahaha!

GOGOGOGURT

Hmm... leaks indicate that MS was indeed cooperating with NSA.

Just tried it myself. It did exactly what the pic shows... no photoshop job. Wow.donalbane

It proves MS wants to control your life, you should form a picket line and complain on the internet.

No, not really.

Just tried it myself. It did exactly what the pic shows... no photoshop job. Wow.donalbane

[QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

The X1 USED to be amazing.  Now it's trash just like the PS4.

 

And shady wtf?  NSA?  You guys still think kinect is spying on you hahaha!

V3rciS

Hmm... leaks indicate that MS was indeed cooperating with NSA.

Yes.  NSA is eager to watch me on my couch, eating crisps.  You are brilliant.

I'm buying a PS4.

Just tried it myself. It did exactly what the pic shows... no photoshop job. Wow.donalbane

EDIT: rofl, yup, you have to put the 'the' otherwise you get above results.

[QUOTE="heeweesRus"]

[QUOTE="ShoulderOfOrion"]With my life. Zaibach

Come home baby

[QUOTE="V3rciS"]

[QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

The X1 USED to be amazing.  Now it's trash just like the PS4.

 

And shady wtf?  NSA?  You guys still think kinect is spying on you hahaha!

GOGOGOGURT

Hmm... leaks indicate that MS was indeed cooperating with NSA.

Yes.  NSA is eager to watch me on my couch, eating crisps.  You are brilliant.

Nope

BPoole96

[QUOTE="V3rciS"]

[QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

The X1 USED to be amazing.  Now it's trash just like the PS4.

 

And shady wtf?  NSA?  You guys still think kinect is spying on you hahaha!

GOGOGOGURT

Hmm... leaks indicate that MS was indeed cooperating with NSA.

Yes.  NSA is eager to watch me on my couch, eating crisps.  You are brilliant.

[QUOTE="darkspineslayer"][QUOTE="Ly_the_Fairy"]

How do we know Sony or Nintendo won't?

Ly_the_Fairy

And what does that tell me other than that MS listened to their fans?

That's a GOOD thing. A company is willing to change their product based on what their fans want. 

MMMMM not necessarily.  They have to be shrewd about that.  If the company thinks it's going to work, they need to stick to their guns and convice the fans, not bend to them.  In this case, MS made a bad call.  Instead of doing a U-turn, they should've explained why DRM is not bad, and how the X1 was awesome.

Key word: "was"

[QUOTE="donalbane"]Just tried it myself. It did exactly what the pic shows... no photoshop job. Wow.GOGOGOGURT

It proves MS wants to control your life, you should form a picket line and complain on the internet.

I trust them as much as I trust any billion dollar plus corporation. With a careful eye. You'd be wise to do the same with Sony or any other company out there.

[QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

[QUOTE="V3rciS"]

Hmm... leaks indicate that MS was indeed cooperating with NSA.

kuraimen

Yes.  NSA is eager to watch me on my couch, eating crisps.  You are brilliant.

They moniter communications for keywords.  Like "terrorist", or "kuraimen"

[QUOTE="darkspineslayer"][QUOTE="Ly_the_Fairy"]

How do we know Sony or Nintendo won't?

Ly_the_Fairy

And what does that tell me other than that MS listened to their fans?

That's a GOOD thing. A company is willing to change their product based on what their fans want. 

It's a historical fact, that MS will do anything it can get away with.  

We Hermits would have been paying for XBL if it were up to the people at MS, they obviously never learn.

[QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

[QUOTE="V3rciS"]

Hmm... leaks indicate that MS was indeed cooperating with NSA.

V3rciS

Yes.  NSA is eager to watch me on my couch, eating crisps.  You are brilliant.

Yeah, I know they do.  See above post.

[QUOTE="V3rciS"]

[QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

The X1 USED to be amazing.  Now it's trash just like the PS4.

 

And shady wtf?  NSA?  You guys still think kinect is spying on you hahaha!

GOGOGOGURT

Hmm... leaks indicate that MS was indeed cooperating with NSA.

Yes.  NSA is eager to watch me on my couch, eating crisps.  You are brilliant.

Seriously, that would be crazy. It would be like monitoring all your boring, irrelevant communications. Oh wait, they do that.

[QUOTE="V3rciS"]

[QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

 

Yes.  NSA is eager to watch me on my couch, eating crisps.  You are brilliant.

GOGOGOGURT

Yeah, I know they do.  See above post.

[QUOTE="Ly_the_Fairy"]

[QUOTE="darkspineslayer"] We don't But it wasn't Sony or Nintendo that were ready to go through with it before an Internet uproar and embarrassing pre-order numbers.darkspineslayer

And what does that tell me other than that MS listened to their fans?

That's a GOOD thing. A company is willing to change their product based on what their fans want. 

It was for the future of the gaming industry.  And every company ever in the history of ever is in pursuit of a dollar.  Unless it says "nonprofit", but that just means they are stupid.

[QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

[QUOTE="V3rciS"]

Hmm... leaks indicate that MS was indeed cooperating with NSA.

kuraimen

Yes.  NSA is eager to watch me on my couch, eating crisps.  You are brilliant.

[QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

[QUOTE="V3rciS"]
lol that's no conspiracy theory... fact is they indeed spy on people.

V3rciS

Yeah, I know they do.  See above post.

"Next time?"  Wtf?  Dude, I'm not stupid like you, I'm better at hiding my terrorist activities.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

 

Yes.  NSA is eager to watch me on my couch, eating crisps.  You are brilliant.

shawn30

It's the sign of a pranoid american public.  After 9/11 we wanted the government to spy on us, now we're all, "oh tinfoil hats the government is spying on us"  tinfoil hats won't protect you.  Shutting your mouth and growing a pair will.

[QUOTE="shadiezz2012"]oh yes who would not trust a company like MSBadosh

Lol!  I don't trust any company.