Do you really trust Microsoft?

No,they showed their true colours.

They'll let all the idiot lems buy their system now and then hit them with the DRM bullshit in a few years time.

I don't really trust them but at the same time I have faith in them that they won't be a bunch of f**kers and try to force the policies on us the upcoming generation again.  I think they saw how upset everyone was and will not risk tarnishing the xbox brand again...at least for this upcoming generation.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

 

Yes.  NSA is eager to watch me on my couch, eating crisps.  You are brilliant.

shawn30

I trust them as much as I trust Sony or any big corporation and thats not at all, and Sony does have this strange brainwashed cult thing going on.

No,they showed their true colours.

They'll let all the idiot lems buy their system now and then hit them with the DRM bullshit in a few years time.

 

OneInchMan99

I'm not a lem now because of the U-turn.  And DRM is a buzzword.  The meaning has changed over the years, it's not bad anymore.

[QUOTE="shawn30"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] :roll: The personal information of millions of people is useful not only to spy but to manipulate their behavior through media and politics. You guys really should smart up, the government gathering secret info on their own citizens is not a good thing specially with the data mining capabilities of today.kuraimen

The public wanted it. 

[QUOTE="shawn30"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] :roll: The personal information of millions of people is useful not only to spy but to manipulate their behavior through media and politics. You guys really should smart up, the government gathering secret info on their own citizens is not a good thing specially with the data mining capabilities of today.GOGOGOGURT

It's the sign of a pranoid american public.  After 9/11 we wanted the government to spy on us, now we're all, "oh tinfoil hats the government is spying on us"  tinfoil hats won't protect you.  Shutting your mouth and growing a pair will.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="shawn30"] Everyone cooperated with the NSA. And if some of this work prevents terrorists acts or mass murder crimes so be it. Some things are just the sign of the times.GOGOGOGURT

The public wanted it. 

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="shawn30"] Everyone cooperated with the NSA. And if some of this work prevents terrorists acts or mass murder crimes so be it. Some things are just the sign of the times.GOGOGOGURT

The public wanted it. 

Dude they spied on Europe as well with no permission or whatever. They had no right to do so! If you believe that's for security only then you're a moron. They gonna use the info in whatever way they like.... commercial use? Easy...

No I do NOT trust M$. But since they reversed their polices.Heh...I MAY get an Xbox One. Probably used.

I'm still angry at M$ not just about what happened with X1 but other things non gaming...

[QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

[QUOTE="shawn30"] Everyone cooperated with the NSA. And if some of this work prevents terrorists acts or mass murder crimes so be it. Some things are just the sign of the times.kuraimen

It's the sign of a pranoid american public.  After 9/11 we wanted the government to spy on us, now we're all, "oh tinfoil hats the government is spying on us"  tinfoil hats won't protect you.  Shutting your mouth and growing a pair will.

I meant shutting your mouth and not wanting the government to spy on you.  And grow a pair because 9/11 is no different from any other event where people die.

[QUOTE="darkspineslayer"]I don't trust them to keep providing enough interesting content after the first several years. Fool me once and all that.V3rciS

[QUOTE="darkspineslayer"][QUOTE="Ly_the_Fairy"]

And what does that tell me other than that MS listened to their fans?

That's a GOOD thing. A company is willing to change their product based on what their fans want. 

GOGOGOGURT

It was for the future of the gaming industry.  And every company ever in the history of ever is in pursuit of a dollar.  Unless it says "nonprofit", but that just means they are stupid.

Let's get this straight. You question whether to trust MS but not ask the same question about Sony?

Sony, a company that made 120FPS, dual HDMIs and 4D claims before the PS3 launch. Gave you all these features (linux, card readers ect..)then slowly took them away after launch? Told you they'd never charge for online play, then turned around is now going to charge? Made a living lyng to the public about PS capabilites, (Toy story graphics ect..) dating all the way back to the PS1 days?

Yet you question MS and NOT Sony? Talk about hypocracy

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[QUOTE="darkspineslayer"]I don't trust them to keep providing enough interesting content after the first several years. Fool me once and all that.kingtito

after all the backlash that made them take away the drm and online requirement in the first place you think they're scheming to restore it later once people are lured in?

CaseyWegner

[QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

[QUOTE="darkspineslayer"] They listened to the lack of interest and getting destroyed in preorders and online polls. The gamer becoming happy was just the side effect of them realizing the majority weren't going to swallow it. It is good it happened, but it tells me they were fully OK with screwing the customer. It was in pursuit of the dollar, the happiness of the gamer was a side effect.darkspineslayer

It was for the future of the gaming industry.  And every company ever in the history of ever is in pursuit of a dollar.  Unless it says "nonprofit", but that just means they are stupid.

Oh, yeah...I agree with that.  They let the uneducated public ruin their console.  They'll sell more, maybe(probably would've gained more sales when everyone saw how it worked at launch), but they missed a great opportunity.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

after all the backlash that made them take away the drm and online requirement in the first place you think they're scheming to restore it later once people are lured in?

 

messedupworld

:lol:haha me too!  It's the only way I'd buy it.

[QUOTE="kingtito"][QUOTE="V3rciS"]
Yea... I mean when xbox360 started it had a solid library and even some exclusives after few years though, MS completely abandoned it. Started releasing only Kinect games pretty much.
Plus the fact that they dropped DRM only because they were FORCED to do that, shows what their real intentions are. darkspineslayer

You know the same question could be asked of Sony. Don't tell me a couple of free games is all it takes for you to forget.

Why is is so easy to trust Sony after the PSN breach and the roofkit scandal? One was a consequence of poor security the other was just nasty.

You really shouldn't trust ANY corporation completely. 

You know the same question could be asked of Sony. Don't tell me a couple of free games is all it takes for you to forget.

Why is is so easy to trust Sony after the PSN breach and the roofkit scandal? One was a consequence of poor security the other was just nasty.

You really shouldn't trust ANY corporation completely. 

heretrix

[QUOTE="darkspineslayer"][QUOTE="kingtito"] You really have no idea what you're talking about do you? More games is more games and 360 had more than PS3. kingtito

I trust them about as much as I trust any company. Meaning I know that companies do what is in their best interest. They couldn't care less about me. I'm just a consumer in their eyes.

Do I think they are going to reverse their DRM stance yet again? No...People complained, they listened, and changed it. That's it. They did what they should have done.

My guess is that the majority of people on here who don't trust MS never have, and weren't going to buy an XBone anyway.

The rest of us trust them about as far as any company deserves to be trusted. Meaning, doing what is in their best interest.

coasterguy65

[QUOTE="coasterguy65"]

My guess is that the majority of people on here who don't trust MS never have, and weren't going to buy an XBone anyway.

The rest of us trust them about as far as any company deserves to be trusted. Meaning, doing what is in their best interest.

clone01

You know I did notice a black van parked a couple of doors down when I came home earlier...crap.

Do I think they are going to reverse their DRM stance yet again? No...People complained, they listened, and changed it. That's it. They did what they should have done.

coasterguy65

[QUOTE="coasterguy65"]

My guess is that the majority of people on here who don't trust MS never have, and weren't going to buy an XBone anyway.

The rest of us trust them about as far as any company deserves to be trusted. Meaning, doing what is in their best interest.

clone01

[QUOTE="messedupworld"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

after all the backlash that made them take away the drm and online requirement in the first place you think they're scheming to restore it later once people are lured in?

 

GOGOGOGURT

:lol:haha me too!  It's the only way I'd buy it.

that's a little weird, dude.

I don't trust any company.

The X1 USED to be amazing.  Now it's trash just like the PS4.

 

And shady wtf?  NSA?  You guys still think kinect is spying on you hahaha!

GOGOGOGURT

[QUOTE="coasterguy65"]

My guess is that the majority of people on here who don't trust MS never have, and weren't going to buy an XBone anyway.

The rest of us trust them about as far as any company deserves to be trusted. Meaning, doing what is in their best interest.

clone01

Sounds like you're downplaying the fact that MS was the company that was going to screw us over until the backlash occurred. I doubt you'd be as much of an apologist if Sony was in this situation. I don't trust MS because they could remove this from the architecture of the console, instead they do it with a patch. Somethings not right there. 

[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="coasterguy65"]

My guess is that the majority of people on here who don't trust MS never have, and weren't going to buy an XBone anyway.

The rest of us trust them about as far as any company deserves to be trusted. Meaning, doing what is in their best interest.

Sagemode87

Sounds like you're downplaying the fact that MS was the company that was going to screw us over until the backlash occurred. I doubt you'd be as much of an apologist if Sony was in this situation. I don't trust MS because they could remove this from the architecture of the console, instead they do it with a patch. Somethings not right there. 

i trust ms, nintendo and sony as much as i would trust a pedaphile to babysit my daughter. it's all about the money kids. when these companies look at u they see $$$$ not an actual human being. and as soon as u dumb ass sony fanboys understand that gs will be a better place.

[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="coasterguy65"]

My guess is that the majority of people on here who don't trust MS never have, and weren't going to buy an XBone anyway.

The rest of us trust them about as far as any company deserves to be trusted. Meaning, doing what is in their best interest.

Sagemode87

Sounds like you're downplaying the fact that MS was the company that was going to screw us over until the backlash occurred. I doubt you'd be as much of an apologist if Sony was in this situation. I don't trust MS because they could remove this from the architecture of the console, instead they do it with a patch. Somethings not right there. 

With my life. ShoulderOfOrion

And the life of my dog. My family. My eventual first-born. Hell, i'll throw my second-born in, as well.

[QUOTE="Sagemode87"]

[QUOTE="clone01"] You don't get it, man! MS is going to invade your house, hold you at gunpoint, and make you by an Xbox one! Sony gives you a free puppy with every PS4 purchase. I thought everyone knew this!!!!!!heretrix

Sounds like you're downplaying the fact that MS was the company that was going to screw us over until the backlash occurred. I doubt you'd be as much of an apologist if Sony was in this situation. I don't trust MS because they could remove this from the architecture of the console, instead they do it with a patch. Somethings not right there. 

[QUOTE="Sagemode87"]

[QUOTE="clone01"] You don't get it, man! MS is going to invade your house, hold you at gunpoint, and make you by an Xbox one! Sony gives you a free puppy with every PS4 purchase. I thought everyone knew this!!!!!!heretrix

Sounds like you're downplaying the fact that MS was the company that was going to screw us over until the backlash occurred. I doubt you'd be as much of an apologist if Sony was in this situation. I don't trust MS because they could remove this from the architecture of the console, instead they do it with a patch. Somethings not right there. 

i trust they will have the best stuff

[QUOTE="Sagemode87"]

[QUOTE="clone01"] You don't get it, man! MS is going to invade your house, hold you at gunpoint, and make you by an Xbox one! Sony gives you a free puppy with every PS4 purchase. I thought everyone knew this!!!!!!heretrix

Sounds like you're downplaying the fact that MS was the company that was going to screw us over until the backlash occurred. I doubt you'd be as much of an apologist if Sony was in this situation. I don't trust MS because they could remove this from the architecture of the console, instead they do it with a patch. Somethings not right there. 

I trust all companies, because they certianly wouldn't try pull one over me. ;)

Hell no.

This is so weird. They do this shitty thing and people complain, they fix it and there's STILL a problem?

heretrix

Why is is so easy to trust Sony after the PSN breach and the roofkit scandal?heretrix

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="Sagemode87"]

Sounds like you're downplaying the fact that MS was the company that was going to screw us over until the backlash occurred. I doubt you'd be as much of an apologist if Sony was in this situation. I don't trust MS because they could remove this from the architecture of the console, instead they do it with a patch. Somethings not right there. 

CaseyWegner