DOA:X3 Might Not Release in The West for Fear of Backlash

So, "we" are censoring the game?

If not, what the **** does censorship have to do with this discussion? Why even bring it up in the first place if you don't think that anyone is censoring anything?

lol SJWs.

Sensitive Justice Whiners, more like.

No mate, i never said we were censoring the game. Cause i dont like that SJWs try to censor so much, thats only reason i bring it up. I like complaining about SJWs censorship attempts.

@mesome713: So, again...if no one is trying to censor the game, then what the **** are you doing bringing up censorship here?

You admit that SJW's aren't trying to censor the game, so...you're just randomly talking about SJW's attempts to censor some other random thing that has absolutely no bearing on this topic whatsoever?

Like, seriously?!

Find it hilarious of the "gaming personalities" saying they are going to boycott PA, as if they ever used its service in the first place (highly doubtful).

Please, just stick to reviewing games. Don't try to pretend that you are some figure of global moral compass just because you work or write for an internet website okay?

@MrGeezer: Yeah, whats wrong with talking about SJWs trying to censor things? Again mate, i just want to play some volleyball.

Im not sure why your so upset. Dont you want to play volleyball also? Its fun mate, i think youd love it. Relieve some of that stress.

@mesome713: So, you admit that the SJW's aren't censoring shit, and that any anger about this game not being released in the west should be directed entirely towards Koei Tecmo?

Again, like I said they are indirectly censoring it. Releasing this game in the west means having the press start a smear campaign against Koei Tecmo because like I said the mainstream press is dominated by SJWs. So perhaps they just dont want to deal with smear campaigns by SJWs. By the way, the press has done smear campaigns against KT in the past because of DOA.

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All i will say is, why are they just now complaining.

Also, I can not find animated/computer women attractive. I dont get this issue.

Being chickenshit cowards who can't handle when someone talks bad about them, doesn't mean they're being censored. I mean, come on dude. You're saying that now people can't even fucking criticize the game without censoring them. What the hell are "artists" supposed to be? Little babies that we can't talk bad about for fear of hurting their little feelings? I thought it was the SJW's who were supposed to be thin-skinned little babies.

There is a difference between saying the game is bad because the gameplay is terrible and saying the developers are misoginist pigs. One is criticism and the other is a personal attack meant to undermine the personal reputation of the developer. You can be sure SJWs will focus on personal attacks.

It's a personal attack based on an interpretation of the material. If someone makes a work of art that you interpret as promoting racist values, there's nothing inherently wrong with you making accusations of racism. If someone thinks that the content of a game promotes misogyny, of course they're gonna make accusations that the creators are misogynists.

But that's all beside the point anyway, because whenever you make any work of art, someone's gonna be wrong about it. Even if we determine that the accusations of misogyny are without merit, unwarranted criticism comes with the territory. Trash talking about things that people hate comes with the territory. That's what happens when people discuss art. As someone who makes art, you get out of the kitchen if you can't stand the heat. But artists aren't some fragile little babies who need to be coddled and protected against people saying mean things about them, so stop treating them as such. If hearing people make mean (or even wrong) comments about them is enough to get them to not release their own content, then that's their fault and no one else's. For all that people talk about SJW's being whiny crybabies, I'd expect people to expect artists to take a little bit of goddamn responsibility for their own actions. So some big meanie said mean and nasty things about you and you pulled your work in response? They didn't censor you, you censored yourself.

@MrGeezer: Slander is not ok criticism. Its wrong. SJWs slander companies, thats why people dont like them. Its alright to not like something, but the second you start slandering people and companies, thats where the line must be drawn. SJWs need to stop the crying and go actually do something for a change.

If it's slander, then fucking sue them, dude.

Anyway, do you have ANY evidence that Koei Tecmo didn't release the game because they were victims of slander? Do you have any specific examples of this slander that you're talking about?

Sue who? Most slander under anonymous tags. Them SJWs be cowards. Im talking in general, SJWs slander people and companies all the time. So you agree? Slander is wrong? Not all criticism is right?

So in other words, you don't have ANY examples of anyone slandering Koei Tecmo prior to their decision to pull the game?

See, when you guys talk about how these kinds of "smear campaigns" force companies to censor themselves, I figured that you're talking more along the lines of ACTUAL PUBLICATIONS. I could potentially see a writer for Wired or Forbes influencing sales by committing slander, but then they also have their goddamned names listed under the article. If you're talking about anonymous tags, like GameFan420 on the IGN forums, then that seems pretty naive to me. How much actual influence do you think some random anonymous jackass has? Are you seriously trying to argue that Koei Tecmo was forced to pull the game because of slander committed by random anonymous jackasses with zero influence on sites like this?

@MrGeezer: You keep trying to come back to this, im not sure why. Anyhow, youd be surprised how much damage can be caused by a bunch of slandering SJWs to a small company.

So let me get this straight.. its not ok to bring over a peaceful game that has gorgeous women in it that do peaceful sports but its ok to be excited for violent games like GTA?...........

dead or alive xtreme has to be brought over to the west

@finalstar2007: I agree, only thing these women will be hurting is SJWs feelings.

How can one hate on such sexiness?

It probably wont but you of all people i expect to know about Play-Asia, import away or just give the eBayers couple of days and they'll have some english copies. No region lock.

Meh, that game shows nothing you can't see at a local beach.

I keep coming back to that because that's the basis of this entire outrage. People are complaining about SJW's forcing Koei Tecmo to pull the game in the west, and yet no one is providing a single shred of evidence that SJW's had anything to do with that. Oh, the media is going to do a "smear campaign"? Who gives a shit? Not only has EVERYONE here failed to demonstrate that SJW's forced Koei Tecmo to do ANYTHING, but no one has managed to provide a single damn instance of any threats of violence or acts of slander.

This is SOLELY Koei Tecmo's doing. So explain to me why the **** people are using this as an excuse to rail against feminism and social justice, rather than actually criticizing Koei Tecmo. Can you explain to me why the **** people are acting like the game not being released is a bad thing, and then actually supporting Koei Tecmo when they're the ones who pulled the game?

Thats the basis of your outrage. Your the one bringing it up, no one else. Again, we just want to play a sexy volleyball game. But keep repeating yourself mate, maybe if you say it enough itll make it true. The topic is related to SJWs, so people come together and show disagreement with whiny SJWs. That is all mate. Who cares if SJWs did or didnt bestow fear upon the company, what does it matter?

Then you clearly haven't been reading this thread. MANY people here are ABSOLUTELY framing this as an issue of SJW's threatening our artistic freedom. And how the hell is this related to SJW's if they didn't have a single goddamn thing to do with the game not getting released?

"We just want to play a sexy volleybell game."

Really? Maybe you personally do, but how many people do you think are REALLY interested in this game? If there was that much interest in this game then the last one wouldn't have sold so poorly in the west. I haven't seen a single person hyping this thing until Koei Tecmo said "you can't have it."

And why should people care if SJW's kept the company from releasing the game? Well, people should fucking care because they're getting the blame for it. You don't see a problem with blaming someone for something that they had nothing to do with, while giving a free pass to the entity that actually did it?

Who cares if they think that, what does it matter if they do? Why are you offended so much by people blaming SJWs? Let them criticize, its not like it will have any effect on SJWs. Just like SJWs have no effect on games. Its just critizism remember.

The last game only released on Xbox 360, and it sold the best in America. So its only natural for America to want a volleyball game in an industry that doesnt have any. Thats why people want the game,cause its a sexy fun volleyball game.

Because this is your guys' fault. You gamers (the overall gaming community collectively, not you personally) are the reason why this game isn't getting released. Last time one of these games came out, no one fucking bought it. No one cared about it that time and no one cared about it this time either. Not until the company said "you can't have it", then gamers collectively threw a tantrum and railed against people who were never going to buy the game in the first place. This completely embodies the kind of self-entitled crybaby mentality that's so prevalent within the gaming community. Gamers refused to buy a product, then expect the company to release it anyway even though the only reason they want it in the first place is because they can't have it. And to top it all off, this community doesn't even have the fucking integrity to look themselves in the mirror and say, "I did this; maybe if I actually bought the last game then the company would think there's actually some demand for it."

It's frankly fucking sickening, and the gaming community apparently can't even own up to the fact that they're the ones who sent the message that releasing this game would be a waste of money.

Now if you personally bought all the DOAX games and have been eagerly anticipating this one from the beginning, then fine. But given the scale of outrage that has erupted, it's very clear that the majority of gamers had zero interest in this title and are just being whiny self-entitled crybabies.

@MrGeezer: But what does it matter though, who cares if more people want it now. You have the power to not buy it. You shouldnt be offended that people want to support the game, you have a choice to not support the game. Just like them whiny SJWs have the power to do the same.

Generally speaking, people don't want it now, either. They're just pretending that they want it as a protest against SJW's. Look how many people here are joking about how they're gonna buy a copy and then send it to Anita Sarkeesian. Why the hell do you think no one was talking about this game until Koei Tecmo said they weren't releasing it in the west? Most of these self-entitled crybabies DON'T want the game, but expect that the company was supposed to have released it anyway. Gamers actually fucking expect a company to LOSE money just to support their pet social agenda.

@MrGeezer: What does it matter whether they are faking or not, why be so offended? Who cares if they send pictures to SJWs, thats their business.

Because this is one of the reasons why there are so many damn problems with video games. This cognitive dissonance that prevents people from appreciating the consequences of their actions directly results in a whole lot of bullshit. People keep buying lazily done sequels and then complain about a lack of innovation. People don't buy games and then complain about there not being a sequel. People buy DLC and then complain about the base game not being complete. People buy broken games and then complain about glitches. And on and on and on. All this shit is OUR fault, dude, and it's never gonna fucking get fixed if we don't even acknowledge that we're the cause of it. This DOAX3 situation is just a textbook example of that. People refuse to buy a niche game, show absolutely zero interest in the series, and then somehow just can't comprehend that the reason it's not getting released is because people didn't fucking buy it. "Oh no, it can't be my fault, it's gotta be the SJW's fault! They're responsible for all the problems, even though that doesn't make an ounce of damn sense."

@MrGeezer: You shouldn't be so offended by what people think or do. I would be more worried about yourself then others.

I'm against censorship, but a bunch of people in this thread are exposing themselves as the creepy sweaty losers that they really are lol!

@mesome713: You're a disgusting human being, you should apologize to him for trying to teach him a lesson in consideration for fellow human beings.

Let me flat out stop you right there. According to VGChartz, the first DOAX sold more than twice the number of copies in the US than it did in Japan, and even though DOAX2 failed miserably compared to the first, it STILL sold in the States more than twice as much as Japan. So going by that trend, Koei's reasoning for not releasing this game is NOT because they don't think it will sell well in the region it performs the bestin. The fact that Koei is publishing it in Japan, and then Europe, where the franchise actually peforms the WORST, the ONLY logical conclusion as to why Koei is not selling the game in the West would have to be because they don't want the smear campaign that they know an SJW-driven media will give them. It should be clear as day, dude. People want the game, at least twice as many people here than in Japan, and since Koei won't give its largest market what it wants, something is definitely up.

Oh, really? Because gamers seem to be REALLY FUCKING OFFENDED by feminists and SJW's. So offended, that they'll buy shit that they never even wanted just to spite the SJW's. At least all I'm doing is complaining, I'm not spending money on shit that I don't even want just to make a political statement.

So basically what you're saying is that they're throwing away shitloads of money just to not look bad? This isn't even about money at all, they're just afraid of having people talk shit about them even if they're getting paid?

if so, then that just validates what I said before...they're fucking chickenshit cowards. According to you, this smear campaign isn't gonna tarnish their sales, because they'd actually do A LOT BETTER if they released the game. So, what...they're just fucking scared of people talking bad about them? They make a fucking product that they know is gonna piss people off, and withdraw that product from their BEST SELLING TERRITORIES, and that somehow lets them off the hook?

1) If they're afraid of looking bad, they still look bad because they still made the game and are releasing it. So they're STILL on the hook for any misogynist complaints, because they're fucking releasing the game. Only now, they're fucking misogynists AND they fucked themselves out of massive profits. Woo hoo, great job, guys!

2) That also further validates that this is in no way the fault of SJW's. If the company would actually BENEFIT from releasing the game in territories where SJW's complain about it, then we can't even fucking say that the SJW's are responsible for making a western release unprofitable.

3) And yes, I'm sure that "something is up." Remember how I was talking about fabricating controversy to generate sales? Wait a little while for Koei Tecmo to announce that they changed their minds and are going to release the game in western territories due to massive fan response. They get made out as the good guys for listening to the fans and saying "**** you" to the SJW's (even though it was them alone that had anything to do with the game getting pulled from the west). They increase sales by making this political and getting and duping stupid fucking saps into buying something that they never had any interest in in the first place.

Again, if this shit was gonna sell, they wouldn't give a flying **** about a "smear campaign" because the shit is selling. If a smear campaign actually works, it's only because people don't want the game (after all, the people who are complaining about it aren't likely to be long-standing fans of the series). And if the game actually IS selling great and the company won't release it in a certain territory just because they're afraid of bad criticism, then that makes them chickenshit cowards. That would be like Andres Serrano refusing to do exhibits in his most lucrative areas just because of a few bad reviews. If we're gonna treat this fucking medium as an art form, then YEAH it's the artist's fucking fault if he pulls his work from his most successful territories just because he's afraid of a few people talking badly about it.

LOL

P-A used a Gamergate dog whistle in an attempt to generate some interest in a shit title and some small-minded people fell for it.

@Dire_Weasel: Genius. They played them SJWs like a fiddle. Was so funny they tried to boycott the company, i havnt laughed so hard in ages.

Even IGN fell for it. The biggest gaming news outlet in the industry.

I always found it interesting how DOAX2 is rated M in the US but the equivalent of E elsewhere. Boobs are more disturbing than blowing peoples heads off for Americans apparently...

@tolwyn: Its weird they attack artist for creating sexual content, but dont attack porn-stars who perform sexual content. I guess i would be scared too though. Everybody and they momma loves porn.

I see what you're doing here, but I'm sure you understand that "SJW" is a dog whistle for Gamergate. No one self-identifies as an "SJW", it's a pejorative.

@Dire_Weasel: Yes, thats why when people disagree with such whining, they call them SJWs. Why someone would take offense to such a word, just shows how uninformed said person is.

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That made absolutely no fucking sense.

@Dire_Weasel: I guess you would have to understand the definition of what SJWs stands for maybe? Im not sure.

Its a label placed on whiners who cry wolf at everything. You just tell them, hey you! Stop being a SJW and go do something about it. You disagree with them, so you let them know you disagree.

It's odd how so many people can't see that. But I guess it's like how you said it, they're small minded.

The game was at no point ever stated to be released outside of Asia. Now that the publishers have made some bullshit excuse the game is going to sell like crazy (relative to how little it would have sold otherwise) due to a bunch of morons thinking that buying shit is a political statement.

Simply put both Koei Tecmo and Play Asia are exploiting peoples stupidity.

@toast_burner: And thanks to the SJWs trying to boycott them, they will sell even more. Its amazing how hate can make you stronger.

I predict that what happened to Hatred will end up happening to this game especially if it releases in the west. It will get a sales boost from people wanting to try out the game, but overall the sales boost won't be enough to make it not sell poorly like Hatred.And the boycotts are on an individual level. People are choosing to boycott them.