DOA:X3 Might Not Release in The West for Fear of Backlash

Again, nobody claimed they did, so im not sure why you keep implying so. What does a game being bad have to do with anything? Who cares if its bad, if people want to buy it, they should be allowed to buy it. Its not illegal to release a bad DoAx3 game. Im sorry, but i will always jump on the side that supports peoples freedom to buy what they want. Im against boycotts and will never side with them. I have the power to not buy what i dont want. And again, you have no evidence they are not releasing because of poor sales when the game sells best in America. All the evidence points to SJWs trying to censor DoA 5 when it was coming out. This is nothing new, same shat different day.

I'm pretty sure TN actually wanted to pay Koei a million dollars to publish DOAX3 in the States. I could be wrong, but I don't think it was TN's decision, and it was Koei's announcement that it wasn't coming to the West that got people's ears perked up. Play-Asia just fanned the flames.

Well, you literally said "but to try and bully a company into not releasing the product because you hope to hurt them financially and cause harm is bulling" so if you don't think that's the case you can hopefully understand why a reasonable person might think you do. That's an incredibly loaded statement, too. When you assign motive based on your own views you are strawmaning the other side. Boycotts like these are intended to effect change in the industry, not to cause individual harm like you suggest.

At the end of the day, a boycott is merely a suggestion. People don't participate in boycotts because they get "Killgrave-ed" by the person who suggested it, they do it because they agree with the idea. Freedom to choose, just like say you are for.

You're right that I don't have "proof" but the data is very compelling. Team Ninja has released nearly 30 games to date, many of them being installments in the DOA franchise. This series has sold worse than nearly every other franchise they have had (possibly excluding PSP/Vita/Arcade-Only games). Even Metroid Other M which caught a lot of flack as being the worst "Post-Prime" Metroid game still sold 1.34 million worldwide. Hyrule Warriors did more than 1 mill. Both previous games combined didn't even hit these numbers, and that's really underperforming for a DOA franchise game.

Yes, the previous installments sold better in North America (and I admit I was surprised to learn that when I looked it up), but bear in mind that the first game was an Xbox exclusive. The original Xbox sold 16 mil units in North America but only sold 2 million units in all of Asia and the Pacific region and Australia. I don't know how many original Xboxes sold in Japan specifically, but even if we round up and say (incorrectly) that all 2 million units were sold in Japan, that means that North America had 8 times the number of Xboxes as Japan (but in reality it's likely an even bigger gap). In spite of North American having somewhere from 8 to 16 times the number of Xboxes as Japan, the game only sold around twice as well in North America. Hell, probably every game released for the Xbox probably sold better in North America based on these numbers. That doesn't necessarily mean the game is more popular in the US. Compare that to Halo 1 where the game sold five times better in the US versus Japan.

The Xbox 360 sold 25 million units in North America versus 1.5 million in Japan specifically (based on the last wikipedia numbers). Nearly 17 times the number of units in North America, and in spite of that the game sold only around twice as many copies again. However, the total sales combined in all regions were less than half of the previous game so this game didn't do as well -anywhere-.

Sure, they could spend the money to release it in North America, but why bother? PS4s aren't region coded and the asian version has English text and menus. Releasing in a region, marketing, etc costs money. They can just release in Japan and let the die hards import it at no cost to them.

I'm not surprised they didn't release this in the US, I'm surprised they bothered to make another sequel at all. 250k units for DOAX2 worldwide probably means they took a bath on that game between development, physical distribution and marketing.

-Byshop

You mean like you suggest its because of poor sales? Boycotts are meant to hurt the company. Yes, you do have the freedom to join the boycott or not, but that doesnt mean people arent bullied into it. Maybe they want to be a team player and dont want the SJWs to turn on them. These SJWs are psychos, they will eat each other and do it frequently. Just ask Ann Rice.

And my data is very compelling also, SJWs have attacked DoA before. Also imports cost more, so they could sell more copies by bringing it over to America. This is not some super expensive game to make, im sure they make their money back easily to produce more of them.

But that doesn't mean people aren't bullied into it? Who's being bullied into a boycott, please?

I'm not hearing data from you, I'm hearing a ton of attacks and hyperbole. "SJWs are psychos" and they are (somehow) bullying people into joining their boycott. I'm sure that there probably have been feminists who had a problem with previous DOA games, but I guarantee you that even though the next inevitable installment of the DOA fighting franchise will have all of the jiggle physics, ass-slams, and barely existent swimsuit costumes as the previous games, it'll still get a worldwide release because there's an actual -game- there that people enjoy.

What the data shows is that T and A isn't enough to sell a video game alone, and since DOAX as a series has little going for it beyond that it sells very poorly everywhere it gets released. That gives me hope for the industry.

-Byshop

I wouldnt know, that would be up to them to come out. But it happens, its happened before and itll happen again. Just like people get bullied to go on strikes. We are not talking about feminist, we are talking about SJWs. Majority of feminist are pro to women exposing their bodies and dont mind cartoons/games doing it. When the next DoA game comes, they will try to cry wolf on it also most likely, its what they always do. And when have just boobs and arse ever been enough to sell a video game on its own? These games have always been very niche, its why they choose to attack them and hide from the bigger corporations.

Yeah, an assumption is not data. It's pretty much the opposite of data.

-Byshop

I never claimed to have data on that, i have data that they attacked DoA 5 before.

But you're throwing around accusation after accusation. There's really nothing here left to discuss because you're far more interested in railing against anyone you consider a SJW than talking about the game.

-Byshop

@Byshop: Would seem that way. I havnt considered none a SJW, but nice accusation.

I didn't say you accused someone in this thread of being a SJW specifically (at least I'm assuming that's what "I havent considered none a SJW" was supposed to mean), but you aren't really talking about the game or this issue. I'm not really interested in an "SJW" debate because frankly there is so much wrong with the idea that I wouldn't know where to begin.

-Byshop

@Byshop: You stated i was rallying against anyone i considered a SJW. But i havnt considered anyone is what i meant. I use it as a general term for those that cry wolf on extremely minor subjects i disagree with. But yes, there is nothing to discuss about SJW, its just a made up term just like cry baby is.

I will reiterate...the fact that so many of you have such an issue with women speaking out against bogus games like this really speaks volumes on your social interactions with real women...or I should say lack there of. I'm not saying this game should be banned, and IT'S NOT, but what I'm saying is you people have an unwarranted personal vendetta against feminists. I mean this website IS home to all the immature maniacs who sent death threats to the GTAV reviewer.

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The only people I know who wanted to play this are women.

My girlfriend said feminists are idiots and the people who are are trying to boycott the release of this game are a bunch of whiny keyboard warriors.

Girls don't even agree with this shit, it's just an isolated bunch of insane people who act overly sensitive and want things their way or they cry...

Problem is there are also feminists who are actually equalists and not manhaters on energy drinks. But yeah I can't say the lack of popularity is unwarranted. Some are carrying the banner of equalism now, which seems like a good (is it?) idea? I don't like getting all P.C. (ugh) but it's a less offensive term and it might hamper the extremists. A little.

Holy shit, this thread turned into a session of the McLaughlin Group really fast.

And let's not point out the hypocrisy here. It's a-okay to do everything in our power to send a message that the feminists and SJW's suck, including buying shit that we don't want just to encourage companies to do things that the SJW's hate.

But if an SJW starts a boycott, "that's bullying people and stopping free speech! If you don't like it, just don't like it and then shut up about it! Not like me, of course. I get to encourage people to support my point of view because I'm right, but you need to shut up and just silently be mad all the time!"

And again...that is not expressing support or lack of support of "SJW's". That has NOTHING to do with whether or not I think the SJW's are wrong or right. But it is absolutely stupid as shit to try to frame this as an issue of censorship and freedom of speech when one side is saying that things that are fine for them are off-limits to dissenters. What's good for the goose is good for the fucking gander. If it's okay to buy a game solely to send a message that the feminists and SJW's suck and have no power, then it's EQUALLY fair game for those feminists and SJW's to organize a boycott for ANYTHING that they don't like.

Thta's how freedom of speech works. But apparently, some people think that freedom of speech only applies to people who they agree with.

That's all a boycott is...

You disagree with what a company is doing so you decide to not buy their products until they improve. What's your issue with that?

Who is boycotting the release of this game. I think I've asked this question multiple times around here, and I still haven't gotten an answer. I haven't seen any vocal protest groups or rallies against this game.

If anyone is overly sensitive, it's you. You are somehow convinced that feminists are trying to keep this sexy beach volleyball game from releasing in the west. You're complaining about absolutely nothing. There is no evidence to support that narrative.

Yeah... Except all of the SJW's freaking out on Play-Asia about bringing this game to the West, how it's disgusting and they're never going to buy from them again etc... They're boycotting the game itself being made available here via the outlet who is actually providing it...

No evidence, pfft lol... Take a hike..

You're making up your own lame narrative.

People were complaining about Play-Asia's venomous tweets. They were "boycotting" Play-Asia. NONE of it had anything to do with the actual release of DOAX3. The only way that you could draw that conclusion is through some bullshit conspiracy theory and pure ignorance.

Its more then that though, your campaigning against the company as a whole, but yeah, its close to the same, just with more bulling involved and a bunch of other stuff.

ITT: @mesome173 goes to war against an imaginary global boycott by "SJWs" that have somehow prevented a shit game from being released in North America.

Keep fighting the good fight, buddy.

Keep telling yourself that, maybe it will come true. But then again, maybe ill turn into a Kirby and start dancing with unicorns.