Does 360 deserves its sucess in America?

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[QUOTE="AncientDozer"]Right on. It still hurts recalling the Jaguar and the like. Though I actually liked Virtua boy even if it did bleed my brain.The_Crimson_Fox

Hey remember the ZX Spectrum with the screaching noises while loading that took about half an hour. Back then you had to work for your gaming, you didn't know what you were gonna be playing, if it was any good, or even if it would work. Still exciting times getting a tape on the fron of a magazine lol.

lol really didn't know about that one.

It's a better console than the PS3, so yes. HoolaHoopMan

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]Short answer, yes, yes it does. It's an excellent console, and it deserves all the success that it's getting.1Stark1

It is a good console no doubt, but what makes it deserve to top PS3 in U.S.? It has less exclusive franchiss, a last gen disc player, and its AAA games has much less variety than PS3s does.

An early start with smart marketing and an overpiced competitors launch, makes for a bunch of Xbox players which are now Xbox fanboys.

The ps2 was (and is still in a way) huge in the U.S. If anything, the better question would be doesn't the 360 deserve to sell better in other parts of the world? I'm looking at you, Japan..

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"]Short answer, yes, yes it does. It's an excellent console, and it deserves all the success that it's getting.NaveedLife

It is a good console no doubt, but what makes it deserve to top PS3 in U.S.? It has less exclusive franchiss, a last gen disc player, and its AAA games has much less variety than PS3s does.

An early start with smart marketing and an overpiced competitors launch, makes for a bunch of Xbox players which are now Xbox fanboys.

[QUOTE="TheEroica"][QUOTE="charizard1605"]Short answer, yes, yes it does. It's an excellent console, and it deserves all the success that it's getting.The_Crimson_Fox

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I give some credit to Sony there brainwashing is extremely effective.

[/QUOTE Let me say this first of all that regardless if Microsoft deserves their sales or not on the 360 the fact is they got them end of story. Anyways On the subject of brainwashing if anyone is brainwashed it is got to be 360 owners it amazes me how Microsoft can sale a faulty product. For example my friend has had 6 360S red ring on him and he is on his 7th one and everyone I talked to is at least on there 2nd or 3rd 360 after a few months. How can you continue buying a product knowing it is faulty that is some brain washing for you LOL!! Don't get me wrong 360 has some great games Halo, Gears Of War to name a few. But my personal opinion I can not buy a product that is not guaranteed to work past a year. Now I know you will probably call me a fanboy but I don't care the facts are the facts. Now I heard the new 360S don't Red Ring I will give it a few more months then I will buy one just to make sure the bugs are worked out. I know every system has had its problem but what happen with the 360 was ridicules. The ratio was for every 3 360S sold at least one would red ring. Anyways that is my opinion Happy Gaming :)

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I give some credit to Sony there brainwashing is extremely effective.

BillyLee912

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I give some credit to Sony there brainwashing is extremely effective.

BillyLee912

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]Short answer, yes, yes it does. It's an excellent console, and it deserves all the success that it's getting.1Stark1

It is a good console no doubt, but what makes it deserve to top PS3 in U.S.? It has less exclusive franchiss, a last gen disc player, and its AAA games has much less variety than PS3s does.

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I give some credit to Sony there brainwashing is extremely effective.

WilliamRLBaker

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I give some credit to Sony there brainwashing is extremely effective.

BillyLee912

where did you pull that number out of? i can take a guess. i'm calling tom foolery on most of your post anyways...

I think the 360 deserves some success in japan

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"]Short answer, yes, yes it does. It's an excellent console, and it deserves all the success that it's getting.NaveedLife

It is a good console no doubt, but what makes it deserve to top PS3 in U.S.? It has less exclusive franchiss, a last gen disc player, and its AAA games has much less variety than PS3s does.

An early start with smart marketing and an overpiced competitors launch, makes for a bunch of Xbox players which are now Xbox fanboys.

I'm an xbox player, and don't really consider myself an xbox fanboy. Thank you for the sweeping generalization, though.

Its over rated.

superior online...superior multiplats...superior xbla

bluray drive in the ps3 is old and takes to long to load..dvd is faster and you can fit most games on 2 dvds..

halo,gears,forza

kinect

controller

many reasons

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[QUOTE="BillyLee912"] *points to ps2* Ps2's failure rate happend at a time when the internet, the common gamer didn't get on the net...far more happens today so we cannot get a good estimate of ps2 failure rate compared to 360... but we can say one thing....the 360 and its failure rate didn't cause Microsoft to be successfully sued and taken to court and then have to settle out of court...

BillyLee912

Absolutely not. If i could go back in time, i would not buy a 360 and miss out on almost nothing.djsifer01

Success isn't something a piece of hardware controls. People found worth in it so yes it does.

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[QUOTE="BillyLee912"] Let me say this first of all that regardless if Microsoft deserves their sales or not on the 360 the fact is they got them end of story. Anyways On the subject of brainwashing if anyone is brainwashed it is got to be 360 owners it amazes me how Microsoft can sale a faulty product. For example my friend has had 6 360S red ring on him and he is on his 7th one and everyone I talked to is at least on there 2nd or 3rd 360 after a few months. How can you continue buying a product knowing it is faulty that is some brain washing for you LOL!! Don't get me wrong 360 has some great games Halo, Gears Of War to name a few. But my personal opinion I can not buy a product that is not guaranteed to work past a year. Now I know you will probably call me a fanboy but I don't care the facts are the facts. Now I heard the new 360S don't Red Ring I will give it a few more months then I will buy one just to make sure the bugs are worked out. I know every system has had its problem but what happen with the 360 was ridicules. The ratio was for every 3 360S sold at least one would red ring. Anyways that is my opinion Happy Gaming

BillyLee912

[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"]It's a better console than the PS3, so yes. The_Crimson_Fox

Ok guys I see a lot of strong opinions here and I'l address them as well as I can. First off, Im not a hater. I want all the consoles to do well. As a fan of videogames, who would want a console to fail. Competition is a good thing afterall right. Im not saying 360 doesnt deserve to be successful, because it does. Im saying it doesnt deserve to have its success over PS3 in America. All the consoles are successful and making profit for the company, so no one is failing at all and thats a good thing. I see a lot of posters saying PS3 was released at 600 dollars and thats the reason why PS3 isnt doing as well in America. If thats the case why is PS3 outselling 360 in EU and JP. Dont tell me Americans hold grudges or something, so thats not a legitimate reason. I also see people saying PS3 didnt hit its stride until 2008. PS3 started having great games in 2007, within the first year it released. Also being "late" to catch appeal shouldnt sway people away as evident with 360 and Kinect. My problem with MS position in the U.S. is that theyre the laziest company of the 3 when it comes to getting exclusive games. The laziest should never get the most sales, no matter who it is. Yeah, I know MS was great at exclusives in 2006-07, but for the last 3 years they havent been trying. Theres no way theyre toppling the competition in U.S. based off what they did in the past. Like I said, it must be the word of mouth sheep effect through MS advertisement. Either way, im glad all the systems are succesful. i just feel the ones that try the hardest should be in the high positions in all the markets.

1Stark1

Just like any fad, if advertised enough in America, people in the US will buy it. It's a disease that has consumed consumerism itself and spit out a defiled and repugnant plague on society.

Look at Justin Bieber, look at Avatar, look at CoD, look at anything that is just a shallow remnant of what could be and what would be if people didn't act like sheep or lemmings and do whatever they are led or told to do. It rakes in the money, and it sells, so therefore, they advertise, therefore they make massive profit.

It will wane though, fads always do, and these things won't be popular for very long, however, just wait for the next big advertised fad to come around, we'll be saying the same thing about that too.

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[QUOTE="Newhopes"]

I give some credit to Sony there brainwashing is extremely effective.

BillyLee912

I'd say initially they did. Meaning the first few years they focused on releasing exclusives while keeping them quality. But now, I'd say they don't deserve success but what I say doesn't matter. It's up to the consumer and right now they're digging what MS is offering.

Yes I say they do deserve it. They gained a great piece of the market share from last gen. They also offer hardcore gamers some of the best selection of games out there, while also gaining a large casual market with the Kinect.

In the beginning..... yes,Now?..... Hell NO!

I wish MS would go back to developing more exclusives games for it's own system,because this whole Kinect nonsense isn't cutting it.

* I hope MS reads this *

I'd say initially they did. Meaning the first few years they focused on releasing exclusives while keeping them quality. But now, I'd say they don't deserve success but what I say doesn't matter. It's up to the consumer and right now they're digging what MS is offering.

Chutebox

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I'd say initially they did. Meaning the first few years they focused on releasing exclusives while keeping them quality. But now, I'd say they don't deserve success but what I say doesn't matter. It's up to the consumer and right now they're digging what MS is offering.

Giancar

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I'd say initially they did. Meaning the first few years they focused on releasing exclusives while keeping them quality. But now, I'd say they don't deserve success but what I say doesn't matter. It's up to the consumer and right now they're digging what MS is offering.

sakura_Ex

ME3, Batman, Skyrim, Portal 2 yeah multiplats do exist...Giancar

I never said they didn't, but the way you worded it,made it seem like these " huge " games couldn't be played anywhere else

So yeah MS.... where are the games ?

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ME3, Batman, Skyrim, Portal 2 yeah multiplats do exist...sakura_Ex

I never said they didn't, but the way you worded it,made it seem like these " huge " games couldn't be played anywhere else

So yeah MS.... where are the games ?

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ME3, Batman, Skyrim, Portal 2 yeah multiplats do exist...Giancar

I never said they didn't, but the way you worded it,made it seem like these " huge " games couldn't be played anywhere else

So yeah MS.... where are the games ?

Yes and no. MS did a lot of things right in the begining of this gen. They were able to get big 3rd party support. Which was huge with MS's shortage of first party devs. They made a flawed, but affordable HD console. They capitalized on Sony's arrogance and made online console gaming important. Unfortunately I don't think they're doing much nowadays for the core 360 gamers beyond just keeping status quo. Seems they're just trying to draw in casauls with Kinect which doesn't really do anything for me.

The average 360 buyer dosen't care about exclusives and most likely they don't know anythingabout theexclusives on either console. I guess most people are buying it because its the new console on the block and itis starting to get popular. Withmany peoples friends buying 360s they are going to naturaly want to play with their friends. And yes it deserves its sucess.

More people have it, and most of their friends buy one

I am shocked this many people responded to this thread or it has not been locked. I read the first post and just thought to myself ok slowly walk away from this idiotic thread. This thread boils down to someone upset their console of choice is in last place after the npd nu,mbers came out.

rybe1025

Seems you shouldve went with your instincts then. Upset? Why would I be upset, PS3 is beating 360 where it matters most games and WW sales. Thats the way it should be as MS has become lazy and just let advertising do the job instead of quality titles.

Yeah sure, not everyone in the US bought the 360 for exclusives.

The 360 was the first console to allow MP gaming. Since the lack of multiplats on the 360 are prevelant enough to keep it going, it doesn't even need exclusives. So the first people bought the cheaper 360, and the people that followed decided they'd rather pay less to play with their friends online to get the (at the time) extremely superior games, graphics, and online. By about 2008 (where I lived) everybody had a 360, no one had a PS3. And if you wanted a console, you got the one your friends had. I got my PS3 in 2007, and since then 5 of my friends picked the PS3 (4 of them in 2010) picked one up. I'm not sure why this didn't happen in Europe, but enough people got the 360 in 2005-2007 where it was unquestionably superior to the PS3 that everyone that followed decided they'd rather get the console they could play with their friends on and share games than the other console.

In the US, nothing will make the general public pick the PS3 over the 360 in terms of games. The only thing Sony can do is cut the price or convince the people who already bought a 360 that the PS3 is worth owning just for its exclusives. They are currently trying to work the later.

The 360 was the first console to allow MP gaming. Since the lack of multiplats on the 360 are prevelant enough to keep it going, it doesn't even need exclusives. So the first people bought the cheaper 360, and the people that followed decided they'd rather pay less to play with their friends online to get the (at the time) extremely superior games, graphics, and online. By about 2008 (where I lived) everybody had a 360, no one had a PS3. And if you wanted a console, you got the one your friends had. I got my PS3 in 2007, and since then 5 of my friends picked the PS3 (4 of them in 2010) picked one up. I'm not sure why this didn't happen in Europe, but enough people got the 360 in 2005-2007 where it was unquestionably superior to the PS3 that everyone that followed decided they'd rather get the console they could play with their friends on and share games than the other console.

In the US, nothing will make the general public pick the PS3 over the 360 in terms of games. The only thing Sony can do is cut the price or convince the people who already bought a 360 that the PS3 is worth owning just for its exclusives. They are currently trying to work the later.

RandomWinner

Say what?

Yes. Best system ever in my opinion. It deserves sucess world wide, but unfortunately not everyone is taking to it. Maybe next gen. But who knows. As long as MS keeps pumping out systems, I know I'll buy them.

If they did it, then they deserve it, why would someone have to deserve sucess?

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I am shocked this many people responded to this thread or it has not been locked. I read the first post and just thought to myself ok slowly walk away from this idiotic thread. This thread boils down to someone upset their console of choice is in last place after the npd nu,mbers came out.

1Stark1

Seems you shouldve went with your instincts then. Upset? Why would I be upset, PS3 is beating 360 where it matters most games and WW sales. Thats the way it should be as MS has become lazy and just let advertising do the job instead of quality titles.

Im curious what you guys think. 360 seems to of really caught on in America, despite having less features and exclusives than PS3. What could it be that attracts American gamer to 360 and what do you think Sony should do to become big with U.S. again. I personally think 360 is riding the coat tails of the sheep effect. There are more reasons to own a PS3 than 360 when they are compared on paper. MS needs to announce some kickass exclusive games because I don't get what U.S. is seeing in 360 as of now. Its like going with just a cup of water and passing up a meal and a cup of water:| Thoughts?

1Stark1

not only does ms deserve the success, they reached out and took their success from a company that should have walked all over them.

it was like walking into some master martial artists dojo and whupping his ass then walking away with his students.

sonys hubris was their downfall, plain and simple.