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#1 svenus97
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Gameplay

Original thread on BioWare forums

I honestly don't know if it's good or bad, looks more fast paced that DA:O, and I'm sure I will love the story, but I'm kinda undecided...

The video is apparently the console version. (Judging from the video, not sure if Mike's last comment is sarcasm)

This is Marian Hawke, the female version of Hawke.

Some DEV comments (Mike Laidlaw is the lead designer)

Mike Laidlaw wrote...

For those curious, that video was not released by us. Obviously not. Our opening gameplay trailer would not be steadycam.

We will have some more detailed stuff coming up in the next little bit, including some details. (And no, the next little bit does not mean tomorrow. Soon is the best I can do.)


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Mike Laidlaw wrote...

Dhiro wrote...

nefem wrote...

This looks like Devil May Cry -_- -_- -_- I seriously hope that was the console version(looked like that) and that PC version is nothing like that.


One of the devs said, lots and lots and lots and (...) lots of times that the gamplay of the console version and the PC version would be different. In the PC version we can still do everything we did in Origins, it's just that this doesn't work really well in the console version, I guess.


No, the PC version looks pretty much exactly like that, and controls exactly like Origins. And it's awesome.

What did you think it was going to look like? Half the speed and with extra
shuffle? Have we been unclear on our very strict non-shuffle policy? Sheesh!

Oh... some new info just came in, those who followed the game already knew that the narrative is framed and narrated by Varric who is being questioned by Cassandra, it seems that this footage is the "exaggerated version", as David Gaider ( the lead writer) said that Varric might sometimes lie and make up stuff, so the huge sword and the ridicolous blood might be false, and as you will see below "when the normal gameplay kicks in"

David Gaider wrote...

JoePinasi1989 wrote...
Is someone actually judging the WHOLE game because of this clip?



That's pretty much SOP around these parts.

Not to dismiss the comments, of course-- which are a nice mix of noth negative and positive, even if the negative people are much louder (and occasionally insistent that only their opinion matters)-- but the leaked video is a short part of the demo's opening. You don't get to see Cassandra's reaction, and the transition to the "normal" gameplay... which is part of the point, really.

But until we put that out there, expect people to dissect what they see ad nauseum, overreact, accuse each other of overreacting, etc. That's kind of what the internet is for, no?

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color me unimpressed.
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#3 finalfantasy94
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The thing is im still confused after I saw that. I mean do you just press A to choose who you are attacking and while its constally attacking basicly on its ownchoose the tec you wanna use like in DAO. Or is it that you only can keep attacking is you keep pressing A like a hack and slash.

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#4 YuriSH
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Looks alright.
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#5 v13_KiiLtz
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I hear Bohemian Rhapsody in the background :D
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#6 Sollet
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Well I guess it looks alright.
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I hear Bohemian Rhapsody in the background :Dv13_KiiLtz
QUEEN is awesome! :D
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#8 v13_KiiLtz
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Gameplay is a matter of preference... if you're talking about which will have the least bugs? ... Well i'll say it won't be the 360 version.
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#9 AAllxxjjnn
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Those graphics aren't "super hot" Bioware. How long before a Bioware game gets good animations as well?
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Gameplay is a matter of preference... if you're talking about which will have the least bugs? ... Well i'll say it won't be the 360 version.v13_KiiLtz
Why not now? :?
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[QUOTE="v13_KiiLtz"]Gameplay is a matter of preference... if you're talking about which will have the least bugs? ... Well i'll say it won't be the 360 version.crippled_ram
Why not now? :?

Well speaking from personal experience, the 360 version of ME 1 & 2 and DA: O had a lot of bugs. That weren't bad but it was noticeable. And kind of annoying (particularly when my team mates teleported here and there v_v)
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#12 crippled_ram
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[QUOTE="crippled_ram"][QUOTE="v13_KiiLtz"]Gameplay is a matter of preference... if you're talking about which will have the least bugs? ... Well i'll say it won't be the 360 version.v13_KiiLtz
Why not now? :?

Well speaking from personal experience, the 360 version of ME 1 & 2 and DA: O had a lot of bugs. That weren't bad but it was noticeable. And kind of annoying (particularly when my team mates teleported here and there v_v)

I agree with ME1 and DA:O, yes... personally, I found no bugs in ME2 Xbox. Although a track record of 1/3 is still skewed heavily against Bioware :P
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INB4 "consoles ruined Dragon Age."

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The thing is im still confused after I saw that. I mean do you just press A to choose who you are attacking and while its constally attacking basicly on its ownchoose the tec you wanna use like in DAO. Or is it that you only can keep attacking is you keep pressing A like a hack and slash.

finalfantasy94

nope. If you know anything about bioware games, spamming the attack button will never get you anywhere.

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#15 YuriSH
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Just watched it again. Kind of curious to see how well Bioware will do with this action rpg stuff, doesn't look that good so far ,but it's not due to next year.

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#16 v13_KiiLtz
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[QUOTE="crippled_ram"][QUOTE="v13_KiiLtz"][QUOTE="crippled_ram"] Why not now? :?

Well speaking from personal experience, the 360 version of ME 1 & 2 and DA: O had a lot of bugs. That weren't bad but it was noticeable. And kind of annoying (particularly when my team mates teleported here and there v_v)

I agree with ME1 and DA:O, yes... personally, I found no bugs in ME2 Xbox. Although a track record of 1/3 is still skewed heavily against Bioware :P

To tell you the truth I was a little disappointed when I played ME2. Before playing it SW had given me the impression that it was on a much higher level to ME, kind of like how Uncharted 2 is on a much higher level than Drakes Fortune. But when I played it (in my personal opinion) the graphics weren't that much of a leap and there was a few bugs I spotted. For instance, when you complete the assignment of getting drunk with the Normandy doctor (forget her name) I was actually able to move Shepard around whilst we were having a discussion (the ones were you select your own dialogue). That really tripped me out :P Don't get me wrong though, this is just a small complaint/observation. The game as a whole is terrific. I just wasn't wowed as much as I could have due to the hype v_v
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#17 HAZE-Unit
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wow the combat looks like a major major improvements from the first game, the action in DA1 was awful.

let's see if they could surpass Japanese developers with their combat system.

so far it looks like an improved version of dynasty warriors.

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#18 coreybg
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Wtf? It looks like hack n slash. The turn based combat was much better than this. Guess everyone who said we're geting Dragon Effect were right.

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#19 finalfantasy94
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[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

The thing is im still confused after I saw that. I mean do you just press A to choose who you are attacking and while its constally attacking basicly on its ownchoose the tec you wanna use like in DAO. Or is it that you only can keep attacking is you keep pressing A like a hack and slash.

PSdual_wielder

nope. If you know anything about bioware games, spamming the attack button will never get you anywhere.

Ok I guess I came off wrong. In DAO when you choose an foe to attack the animation of you attacking keeps on going without you pressing A and while thats going on you focuse on the buffs,healings and using skills. Now DA2 I cant tell if it works the same way or do you actually have full control of the attacking animation.

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#20 HAZE-Unit
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Wtf? It looks like hack n slash. The turn based combat was much better than this. Guess everyone who said we're geting Dragon Effect were right.

coreybg

the turn based system was awful.

this game have better real-time system.

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Looks Diablo-y...

I hope Diablo III comes out next year... ^_^

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exactly what i wanted to be the combat , wiiiiiii :)

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#23 HAZE-Unit
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[QUOTE="PSdual_wielder"]

[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

The thing is im still confused after I saw that. I mean do you just press A to choose who you are attacking and while its constally attacking basicly on its ownchoose the tec you wanna use like in DAO. Or is it that you only can keep attacking is you keep pressing A like a hack and slash.

finalfantasy94

nope. If you know anything about bioware games, spamming the attack button will never get you anywhere.

Ok I guess I came off wrong. In DAO when you choose an foe to attack the animation of you attacking keeps on going without you pressing A and while thats going on you focuse on the buffs,healings and using skills. Now DA2 I cant tell if it works the same way or do you actually have full control of the attacking animation.

Did you not play an action RPG in the past?

you could stop and heal yourself and stuff.

just take a Kingdom Hearts game as reference to what to expect the gameplay be like in DA2.

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I might vomit. So bad...I thought Bioware games couldn't have gotten worse. I was wrong.
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#25 waltefmoney
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I might vomit. So bad...I thought Bioware games couldn't have gotten worse. I was wrong.GeneralShowzer

BioWare has made some of the best games this gen.

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#26 mbrockway
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... What the hell was that? Was digging the giant sword, but then it got to the gameplay. I am seriously confused about what they've done. They've turned Dragon Age into freaking Ninety Nine Nights. I seriously hope they fix this, or maybe it doesn't play like it looks.

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#27 GeneralShowzer
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[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]I might vomit. So bad...I thought Bioware games couldn't have gotten worse. I was wrong.waltefmoney

BioWare has made some of the best games this gen.

Yea, no.
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#28 finalfantasy94
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[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="PSdual_wielder"]

nope. If you know anything about bioware games, spamming the attack button will never get you anywhere.

HAZE-Unit

Ok I guess I came off wrong. In DAO when you choose an foe to attack the animation of you attacking keeps on going without you pressing A and while thats going on you focuse on the buffs,healings and using skills. Now DA2 I cant tell if it works the same way or do you actually have full control of the attacking animation.

Did you not play an action RPG in the past?

you could stop and heal yourself and stuff.

just take a Kingdom Hearts game as reference to what to expect the gameplay be like in DA2.

yes iv played plenty,but I couldint tell if DA2 was going to be like that since it was about 10 seconds of actual fighting and you couldint see the controler and how the person was playing.

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[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]I might vomit. So bad...I thought Bioware games couldn't have gotten worse. I was wrong.GeneralShowzer

BioWare has made some of the best games this gen.

Yea, no.

Yeah, and Mass Effect 2 isn't the second highest rated game on metacritic this year.

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[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

BioWare has made some of the best games this gen.

waltefmoney

Yea, no.

Yeah, and Mass Effect 2 isn't the second highest rated game on metacritic.

I could not care less about what critics say. Some people still have their sanity thanks god. Interactive cheesy space opera with mediocre shooting mechanics disguised as an RPG =/= Best game this gen.
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#31 MAZ85
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oh sh*t , DA is now a hack n slash game , damn it
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#32 Sollet
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Hmmm reminds me of Dynasty Warriors for some reason.... Wait! Now I get it! Bioware are trying to appeal to the Japanese audience!
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[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

Ok I guess I came off wrong. In DAO when you choose an foe to attack the animation of you attacking keeps on going without you pressing A and while thats going on you focuse on the buffs,healings and using skills. Now DA2 I cant tell if it works the same way or do you actually have full control of the attacking animation.

finalfantasy94

Did you not play an action RPG in the past?

you could stop and heal yourself and stuff.

just take a Kingdom Hearts game as reference to what to expect the gameplay be like in DA2.

yes iv played plenty,but I couldint tell if DA2 was going to be like that since it was about 10 seconds of actual fighting and you couldint see the controler and how the person was playing.

I think they are changing the combat system for the better, I didn't like the combat in DA at all since it was really not fun to watch or perform, this time around it looks like an action RPG type of game which is way better so I don't think it will be like the first game and the artstyle for the game is amazing.

the question though, can Bioware make a better than average action combat system?

I hope they got some talented people from Japan.

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#34 v13_KiiLtz
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[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"] Yea, no.GeneralShowzer

Yeah, and Mass Effect 2 isn't the second highest rated game on metacritic.

I could not care less about what critics say. Some people still have their sanity thanks god. Interactive cheesy space opera with mediocre shooting mechanics disguised as an RPG =/= Best game this gen.

Despite the fact the I love ME there is an air of truth about this.
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#35 HAZE-Unit
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Hmmm reminds me of Dynasty Warriors for some reason.... Wait! Now I get it! Bioware are trying to appeal to the Japanese audience!Sollet

I know you are joking but seriously that's a good thing, Bioware games needs some love from Japan too.

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#36 Sollet
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[QUOTE="Sollet"]Hmmm reminds me of Dynasty Warriors for some reason.... Wait! Now I get it! Bioware are trying to appeal to the Japanese audience!HAZE-Unit

I know you are joking but seriously that's a good thing, Bioware games needs some love from Japan too.

I wasn't joking :|

[spoiler] Ok I was :P [/spoiler]

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#37 therancors
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What the......???? I don't even know how it controls but it almost looks like an action game. Wonder how the PC version is like........

Edit: Then again, Mike Laidlaw said the PC version controls exactly like origins but I'm not seeing it even though the footage is from consoles.

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#38 HAZE-Unit
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[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

[QUOTE="Sollet"]Hmmm reminds me of Dynasty Warriors for some reason.... Wait! Now I get it! Bioware are trying to appeal to the Japanese audience!Sollet

I know you are joking but seriously that's a good thing, Bioware games needs some love from Japan too.

I wasn't joking :|

*spoilers*

argh glitchspot :x

hah lol.

i was talking about the second part just to point that out , the first part of your comment is seriously serious i know that :P

seriously it reminds me of dynasty warriors too, i hope they make it more tactical than throwing hordes of enemies at once like what was shown in this vid, that needs to change unless it was like a big battle scene.

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Looks Diablo-y...

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is that bad?

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#40 arto1223
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My interest in this game has basically died having seen this. That footage made the game seem like DMC or Dynasty Warriors rather than DA:O... I was a big fan of the first DA because I miss the classic BG games, but if this is the direction the DA series is going... count me out.

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#41 Elann2008
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wow the combat looks like a major major improvements from the first game, the action in DA1 was awful.

let's see if they could surpass Japanese developers with their combat system.

so far it looks like an improved version of dynasty warriors.

HAZE-Unit

That's the LAST thing I would want to happen....

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uh oh.......

we need some cookies, now!

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#43 rolo107
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It looks just like Dragon Age: Origins... So much for those crying about it changing too much.
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#44 SkyWard20
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[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

BioWare has made some of the best games this gen.

waltefmoney

Yea, no.

Yeah, and Mass Effect 2 isn't the second highest rated game on metacritic this year.

Don't mind him, Dragon Age 2 will mop the floor with The Witcher 2! :P
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#45 ArchoNils2
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gameplay looks like more fun than the first one, I'll most likely get it

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#46 Prexxus
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Uh oh we have a little change! Brace for immediate fanboi rage!

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#47 longtonguecat
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[QUOTE="longtonguecat"]

Looks Diablo-y...

TheShadowLord07

is that bad?

Diablo is my favourite RPG series, but I thought Dragon Age was meant to be the rebirth of the old AD&D style RPGs... So I'll enjoy it, but I don't think it's where I want the series going.

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#48 brickdoctor
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Not sure if I like this. It looks too combat focused to me, but I'm not going to judge the game on a clip that's like less then two minutes.

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#49 Yangire
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I'll quote this users post from RPGcodex.

"So Dragon Age 2 is going to be a really bad Dynasty Warriors clone without the flair, the over-the-top style, and the crazyness?

Meh."

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#50 fueled-system
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I want to see more before I denounce it but my god at this point I am very upset.... Why change it to this extreme? Very few people were complaining about the combat. And its not like it did not sell well...