driveclub vids *update 2 : new live stream!

OK, it looks great, but, is it just me, or do the wheels look like they're clipping through the ground?

Must be because if the Cooper's body frame

@ghostwarrior786: You know, after watching that vid I'm not impressed. Now I know its a Youtube vid and they do shit on the quality so I'll make my final judgements on the PSN+ version but there are some things in there that really seem off. First off, the tire sounds. **** me they sound like shit. For a game that has had its sound design routinely touted this is a big **** up. Again as mentioned before, running into the dirt does not cause dust clouds to be kicked up. Actually, as I'm watching it there are points where there is dirt and other derbies being kicked up but its hardly a lot.

The guy doing the video is a whinny bitch. He's shit at playing this game. He's complaining about people bemoaning the fact that this wasn't avaiable on release yada yada, he needs to shut the **** up. DriveClub was interesting title in a tiny pond of shit. When it was delayed it made the PS4's lineup look very dull. People have every right to be pissed. I'm also being hard on this game because its had an extra year of dev time and from what I'm currently seeing they seemed of wasted a good chunk of that year.

I was going to gloss over this post until you said this

FH2 uses a Kudo-like system that made PGR a staple, DC does not.

FH2 has lots of urban/inner city areas to race in, DC does not.

FH2 has a huge focus on music (something that all PGR's prided themselves in), DC does not.

Anyway, have fun with Drive Club, just try not to damage control when the game ends up in the 60's-70's on MC

@Ben-Buja: I guess thats true....I just never really paid attention to it.

That said...it could be blurry due to the fact the "READY" box is there....just the "READY" part is photshopped out.

Drive Club has no soul

smashes every other racing game to a pulp. the lighting and shading looks so damn natural. not sure what aliasing people are on about, the IQ is better than what you can achieve in virtually any modern pc game that doesnt support txaa without resorting to spending ridiculous amts of money on multi gpu setups to brute force high levels of downsampling

@ghostwarrior786: Still hard to see for me....but I'm done judging games by youtube videos ( always looks worse ) and gifs ( usually looks better ) and pics ( hand picked by whatever side )....I will judge this the only true way to judge it, on the PS4.

bro why dont u just watch high quality vid then judge for yourself. i honestly dont care at all for racing games, the only reason i show any interest in driveclub is to troll lems and because its included in ps+ so i will check it out. i was hoping it would control like nfs and be arcadey but it seems to realistic for my taste. and yeah the dust is inconsistent which is really weird but it is present

Keep telling yourself that buddy.

This is from Gamersydes Chile - Ferrari F430 video

These stupidass generalizations are why no one will ever take you seriously as a poster.

I love my racers so I was pretty pissed off when this was delayed and even after watching those HQ vids, I'm still not impressed.

yep ive seen them all. lol pc games have much worse aliasing than that with how little msaa does these days.

Dat damage control.

One of those must see it to believe it games, still from those screen shots and even the HQ vids, it looks like a massive downgrade.

PC games such as...?

I can't think of a recent PC game that didn't have any decent AA methods, TXAA is becoming more and more the standard and MFAA was just introduced as well

you havent even seen mfaa in in action and its not a quality improvement, its a quality reduction with a performance improvement. and txaa is available in less than 10 games(ever). thats not even close to becoming "more and more the standard".

bf4 says hi, even with deferred aa that game has far more aliasing than driveclub, and thats just on standard polygon edges. when you start taking into account shader and alpha aliasing it just gets completely shit on. then to put the cherry on top you have the massive z fighting and texture/polygon seaming and popping which just finishes it off quite well.

pc games these days are a temporal MESS. driveclub is very temporally stable by comparison. and this is on hardware roughly 3x< powerful than your overclocked 780ti.

I recently saw this game in person at ComicCon, looks awesome, but I wouldn't say it's leaps and bounds beyond anything we have seen. It just looks great, a bit of a step up from Forza but in person it didn't feel like a big step up. I'm looking forward to seeing how it will be received after all this hype and talk, because right now there's a new King in town as far as arcade racers are concerned.

So what racer looks better then this that impresses you?

the snow map in this graphically destroys the final stand snow maps in bf4 despite running on hardware 3x less powerful. shameful.

@FastRobby said:

@GrenadeLauncher said:

bu bu but downgrade sob sob sob

No dirt flicking upwards when you drive over a bit of sand... bu-bu-bu 50% more powerful, lol even an open world game like FH2 has this.

But the rain doesn't move off the cars in horizon 2 when ur going over 100mph

Looks amazing. Cant wait for this

Does that particular video scream temporally stable? lol in the contrary it's terribly aliased. Haven't seen anything this bad in a while.

Yes, I have seen MFAA in action, it's another method that's effective for temporal aliasing in games that use deferred renderers. It might not be as effective as TXAA, but it's another win for PC nevertheless.

There are more than 10 games that feature TXAA. COD Ghosts, AC 3 & 4, Watch Dogs, Blacklist, Arkham Origins, Neverwinter, Black Ops 2, The Secret World, The Crew, Crysis 3... You can bet your ass that in the future it will be used in more games, hence why I said it will become more and more the standard for games (especially those that use deferred renderers)

And congrats you named one game.

Again...the game looks great.

The only ppl who don't think it looks good are ppl who want to find something to nit pick about.

@FastRobby@chikenfriedrice

here i made this gif showing the dust

Really truly impresses me? None at the moment. FH2 has tons of cars and looks great but its not worth getting an X1 for currently. Pcars has physics and handling issues that need working and DC just looks sub-par now.

It's a linear path you drive through versus a giant map you fight with 64 players on with more than twice the framerate. Nothing shameful about that.

You actually interact with anything off the track, you just bounce off those "wooden" fences.

the crew isnt even out yet, and if txaa in the beta is any representation of the final game, then it wont count when its released either. i had forgotten about secret world. so exactly 10 games support txaa and its been available for 2.5 years. yeah pretty sick adoption rate there!!!!!!. youve seen mfaa in action? link to driver that supports it please(crappy offscreen videos dont mean shit when trying to determine aa quality.) you should watch the interview with tom from nvidia, he talks about mfaa. how many games do i need to name? which modern pc game that doesnt support txaa has better temporal stability than driveclub? all the GSY videos were temporally stable. im beginning to think you dont know what that term actually means.

How about you name more than one for starters lol

the snow track in driveclub is actually bigger and more detailed than all 4 final stand maps combined, and again theres that 3x increase in power

It may have no soul, but it has my pre-order money...

...cancelling my pre-order. :(

bro why are u comparing battlefield to driveclub? haha bf does so much more, it has destruction, 60fps, 64 players etc. its not even a contest. personally think bf4 is the most impressive game on next gen consoles

@Ben-Buja: pcars, metro, tomb raider, nfs rivals, shadow of mordor, dead rising, star citizen, risen 3, rome 2, sniper elite 3

It's just a backdrop that you can't get to, they can save a lot of resources on distant objects and textures because they obviously don't need to make them too detailed, you will never get there anyway.

They can design LODs much easier in games that only let you travel a linear path. Cliffs that are right next to the track can be very detailed and use high res textures and distant cliffs are much less detailed but you won't be able to tell from your POV.

The 3x increase in power goes towards the 64 players and the much higher framerate obviously. Even a 970 GTX manages 77 fps average in BF4 on ultra

Edit: Here's something that shows nicely what I mean:

Notice how the terrain is much more detailed on the left where the track is? That's how they got Driveclub to look like it does.

Battlefield 4 on the other hand has a big map and has to keep a constant level of detail across a wider area.

Most of those have better AA than Driveclub.

Feel free to post screenshots that prove me wrong.

Btw. Project CARS might get TXAA on release.

As for DR3:

Looks better to me than:

As far as AA quality goes. I think most people would agree

LOL....no. dead rising 3 is an absolute clusterfuck in motion. pcars is not getting txaa(at least not at release). yeah they have better AA when u brute force high levels of supersampling. but that goes for any game. i also love how hermits constantly post the worst pics from the most compressed streams possible. whenever i post a pic of a pc game to use as a reference its always a direct capture screen at max settings.

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Seriously, the guys who made Shift are making Cars? I liked 1 but 2 was a freaking piece of unplayable garbage. Who the heck puts a 1/2 second input delay in a racing game? This makes me sad.

Seems like these POS "next gen" consoles are not even bc with old peripherals

http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2014/09/30/wheels-work-driveclub/

lol

It has to do with Logitech abandoning the wheel business and not working on updating their drivers for the new consoles. Has nothing to do with the PS4 or X Boner

@3dude1

Just like Driveclub is a clusterfuck in motion? Shimmering everywhere, especially in the trees and bushes, jaggies on power lines, flickering on guardrails etc.

TXAA is still on the roadmap for Project CARS + they have a partnership with Nvidia.

They redid the physics from the ground up, no worries man

SMS also made GTR, GTR 2 and GT Legends by the way.

Yeah, that's weak sauce. I bought a Fanatec GT2 wheel especially because it was compatible with PC, 360 and PS3. No way I'm buying a new wheel for the current gen consoles...

I hope Sony is working on more support for older wheels.

Straight from the link right there---

“It’s devices that have high polling rates that require the chip. A standard mouse and keyboard, for example, don’t send data very fast to the PS4. Devices that do, such as controllers and wheels, require the chip.

We understand the frustration that many customers feel and we’re currently working on a solution.”

So yes, it is a PS4/Xbox problem.

@Ben-Buja said:

@m3dude1 said:

smashes every other racing game to a pulp. the lighting and shading looks so damn natural. not sure what aliasing people are on about, the IQ is better than what you can achieve in virtually any modern pc game that doesnt support txaa without resorting to spending ridiculous amts of money on multi gpu setups to brute force high levels of downsampling

Keep telling yourself that buddy.

This is from Gamersydes Chile - Ferrari F430 video

Here's a video using the same car on the same track in Chile.

@ButDuuude said:

@Ben-Buja said:

@m3dude1 said:

smashes every other racing game to a pulp. the lighting and shading looks so damn natural. not sure what aliasing people are on about, the IQ is better than what you can achieve in virtually any modern pc game that doesnt support txaa without resorting to spending ridiculous amts of money on multi gpu setups to brute force high levels of downsampling

Keep telling yourself that buddy.

This is from Gamersydes Chile - Ferrari F430 video

Here's a video using the same car on the same track in Chile.

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Is that a joke? Drive Club looks so much better. That isn't even comparable.

@kuu2: graphically it makes mincemeat out of FH2

hum, the 1st two saying that were mems and secretpolice, two of the biggest known lems in these forums. Oh, the term "mostly" completely devoids the term "generalizations"

in other words stfu and stop being an idiot

Are you the English speaking version of El Tormented? You're quickly getting that type of rep bro. If I were you I'd slow it down.