DX12 will not solve XBones 1080p problems

The secret sauce has been denied, according to The Witcher 3 developers. Where is your god now?

Is the Witcher 3 confirmed 1080P on the PS4? ( real question )

Lol 1080p arguments

I wouldn't call it a confirmation as the game is a ways off from release, but this is the latest article I could find on the issue and it states that it is 1080p on PS4.

Link.

This quote made me lol

"Microsoft and Sony say 900p is the sweet spot, and there's not a lot of difference visually between 900p and 1080p, but it's a hot topic now. So that's what my goal is."

But yeah we will see. I would be surprised if the consoles reach 1080P. My PC ( which is better than both One & PS4 ) still struggles with the Witcher 2 lol...these games are demanding as shit.

Consoles have arrived to 2010. (well, 2010 for me)

@Shewgenja: "I find no value in 1080p for our customers." Microsoft

Lol I wonder what lems will say now.

I play on PS4 and PC. If you really want graphics, you're kidding yourself if you think consoles can compete with PC's.

and in true SW fashion

TLOU>>>Anything on X360 and X1 combined. There I said it.

well other devs don't have a problem with it, so it's the devs that don't want to go through the trouble to make it work.Maybe I would care if the witcher series were actually good games.

but even then i wouldn't care, because who plays on these weak consoles anyway.

5 year old pc's outclass these so called next gen consoles, even the crappy ps4

Moooing as usual I see. Keep up the good work cow.

In the not too distant future..

I was in a GAME store earlier today and they had some novelty USB sticks with Mario heads and stuff I was looking at. Then I noticed they where shelved right next to the XBONE games and I felt really embarrassed that someone might see me and think im an XBONE gamer.

Doesn't matter. We will see easy ports between xboxone and PC because of that. That will enhance both their libraries. There are only a few users here that would be crushed by this news but we live in a world outside of SW. It still sucks that in 2014, we don't have consoles that can deliver 1080p experience even though its been the standard for years.

I've only played one 900p(BF4) game, and it looked very good to me. As long as the devs are not lazy and are happy with the res they are working, then I'm fine. But I would prefer for all my games to be 1080p if possible.

NOTHING will solve a piece of shit of a gpu this console is stuck with. DX12 will not add in some shaders to the gpu and transform the slow ass DDR3 into GDDR5. You're stuck with 792p gaming until the end of this generation, lems. Now you can believe MS's PR and hype words or wake the F up and build a rig or buy a ps4 but you're all too dumb to do that lol. Lems motto: 792p4life

Mark it off the chalkboard guys.

hahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahaha

"B....bu.....bu.....but teh DX12 drivers!!!!11"

M$ public announcement about 1080p : we decided we want our customers to enjoy the games without distractions and 1080p has too much going on those millions of extra pixels arent just a distraction theyre dangerous and wear out your tv faster , we simply cannot allow them to suffer

This is a big problem.

dont worry, the CLOUD will save them.

May hurt the anus of some, most lems i'd assume.

@RR360DD said:

It's a good workout.

Yeah we've known this for ages... next.

O_O

It's a serious crisis for lemmings worldwide. Something must be done!

I lol at these threads, you guys all squabbling over 1080p when i am quite happily playing most of the same games in 720p on my 360.

Ps, lems should stop ,DX12 is not the magical Bullet will Slay the evil SONY dragon, chances are the Xbone probably won't have the lions share of it's game in 1080p, not that it matters, you are still playing the same game so who actually gives a F***.

The only thing DX12 will do for the X1 is maybe help lower cpu workload communicating to the gpu, which means you will have gain alittle bit back on cpu resources for other tasks. and inturn might help the gpu ever so slightly. It not going to be the magic pill that some think its going to be

Hahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...

Where is Stormyjoke,blackace,Kinglemming and the endless barrage of alts account who argue me on this..lol

No is that not all game have the same demanding load,so while Sniper Elite and Tomb Raider can hit 1080p,Ryse,Dead Rising 3,Ghost,BF4,AC and many others can't.

So what GPU your PC has.?

DX12 is on xbox one since day 1,is all about lower CPU over head which the xbox one had since launch and so did the xbox 360.

First DX 12 game on PC late 2015 on xbox one they are already there since day 1,this is coming from a developer so yeah save your damage controls,recently even Phill Spencer admit DX12 would not do much for the xbox one,you most have miss it..lol

This is just a re confirmation.

My PS4 cost me $0 i stole it you know like you people do with windows.? Beat that pirate..

This has always been obvious. Plenty of people like to believe getting to 1080p is a memory problem for X1 but it's just as much a graphics processing problem. Really it's a 720p console. And although lots of its games have been in 1080p so far PS4 is more of a 900p console imo. 2.5 tflops would have made for proper 1080p consoles.

On the front GS page it says 'this years update to MSs api'. I thought it was coming at the end of 2015?

Also I thought this was already established. Some MS engineer guy or something said it wouldn't impact the X1 much.

Witcher dev is weird, first they are licking Microsofts arsehole saying specs don't matter it will be the same on both there is no difference we have graphs and shit... then they show the game on Xbox One first... then they say we can't do 1080p on Xbox One and DX12 is shit.

WTF? Are MS not paying them enough or something?

Inferior machine is inferior.

And ...ouch Witcher 3 on consoles.

Yeah because they didn't have the right esram tools at that time lol

witcher devs are just being lazy

both consoles are weak sauce

my gpu is a gtx 760

Yeah maybe at PC low settings.

While I agree they aren't what they should have been (Especially X1) I never expected their specs to compete with high-end PC gpus. That's impossible given the cost and power requirements of graphics cards like that. But what they both could, and should, have done is aimed at a $500 price point with 24 functioning compute units in the GPUs and 12 Jaguar CPU cores instead of 8. Those would have been true 1080p machines and I totally believe people would have been willing to pay the extra $100 for them ($100 more for extra power, not freakin' Kinect). But there's no time machine to correct things so we've got what we've got. :(

At least until MS cries and they're forced to normalize it across platforms.

They didn't actually say they can't hit 1080p on the xbone, just that DX12 isn't making it any easier either.

Xbox One 1080p Obstacle Not Solved by DirectX 12, Witcher Dev Says

This year's upgrade to Microsoft's DirectX API will not make it easier for developers to run games at 1080p resolution on Xbox One, according to CD Projekt Red.

by Alex Newhouse on August 4, 2014

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When the next iteration of Microsoft's DirectX software was unveiled at GDC in March, the company promised that it would bring "richer scenes, more objects, and full utilization of modern GPU hardware" for future games on Microsoft platforms. But according to one game developer, this upgraded API will not improve the ability to render games at 1080p on Xbox One.

CD Projekt Red, developer of upcoming RPG The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt, stated in an interview with GamingBolt that DirectX 12 would not make it easier to run at higher resolutions. Lead engine programmer Balazs Torok explained, "Most games out there can't go 1080p because the additional load on the shading units would be too much. For all these games DX12 is not going to change anything."

Torok said that games might technically be able to run at 1080, but it won't matter because the resource cost of shading those extra pixels would be too high. "They might be able to push more triangles to the GPU but they are not going to be able to shade them, which defeats the purpose," he said.

Since the console's launch last November, there's been controversy surrounding the apparent difficulties developers have when attempting to get their games running at 1080p resolution. June's update to the Xbox One software development kit--different than DirectX--opened up an additional 10 percent processing power for developers to use, which has helped some games like Destiny reach 1080p on the console.

We've reached out to CD Projekt Red for clarification of these statements and will update the story with any new information we receive.

The Witcher 3 launches on February 24 for Xbox One, PlayStation 4, and PC. According to CD Projekt Red's CEO, the developer is running into a little more difficulty with getting the game to run at 1080p on Xbox One than on PS4.

They have all the same tool all developers have,Sniper Elite is 1080p The witcher 3 comes next year and isn't,it not the tools is the weak xbox one.

I doubt you have one,and that 760GTX can't be consider a 5 year old PC.

I get it you love your xbox but you hide on PC when it loss so lemming like..lol

gtx 760 is not a high end gpu lol. I had a 7870 xt before that and then i bought a 750 ti because i wanted to make a httpc. The 7870XT even runs circles around the ps4's gpu. The 750ti is about the same as what's in a ps4, but an old phenom II quad beats the crap out of the ps4's cpu lol.

I bought the gtx 760 because i can sli and for upcoming vr games. The gtx 780 is a high end gpu, or maybe the gtx 770.

The x1 is really not that much weaker as the ps4, everybody's whining about the secret sauce, but the fact is that it isn't secret sauce but it still give an boost to the x1's gpu which is basically a 7790, that's just one tier below the 7850 and that's what's in a ps4.

The 1080p problems is because of the reservation for kinect , which is now gone and the proper tools for that esram. Maybe the ps4 may still have a bit of an edge, but it won't be a difference vs 1080p and 900p, the witcher's comment is just because they're frustated , they have to put the extra work in the X1 version, while the ps4 will be a lot easier to dev for, since it's a lot more like a pc. They also have a pc version so they just going to use one version and they won't use the esram.

Because that's what's basically is the difference between the 7790 and 7850, 1080p vs 900p, the esram can close the gap, but if they won't use it, nobody can do something about that.

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