DX12 will not solve XBones 1080p problems

@evildead6789: Flops are the measure of graphical computational prowess, GPU's have ALU's that better than CPU's for calculating floats. The actual float data type is what is used to store vertices of a primitive so the faster a chip can calculate those numbers the better it is for graphics and rendering. There is more to a GPU than just its flops number but to say that FLOPs is not an accurate measure of a GPU'S power is not accurate.

i never said that

but will you run a system only with a gpu?

I don't think so

This is the post I was talking about," if it isn't designed for something like 3d rendering, then it doesn't matter how many flops it has."

What Im saying is if the ALU was designed with FLOPs in mind then it was designed for 3D rendering. If a chip is strong in int, doubles, and longs its not designed for graphics. It can compute graphics because those floats will then be converted over into another data type but as you could guess this slows down the computational speed. I get the point you are trying to make just trying to help make the information as accurate as possible.

I know what a TFLOP is, I was just making fun of your typo

Sometimes reading these topics is a lot like watching a bunch of orangutans discuss theoretical physics.

@mikhail: its ok to admit when you don't understand the discussion.

Under powered and with no games... TLHBO

Did any of you lems actually believed dx12 would bring you DAT 1080p? I weep for you if you did. The sooner you all accept the truth the sooner MS can kill off the Bone and bring out the successor, do not torture yourself with 792p, low fps and missing graphics features. God damn.

lol and on-railed racer

choo-choos!!! lol

Halo TMCC, Forza Horizon 2, Sunset Overdrive, Below, Scalebound, Ori and the Blind Forest, D4, Fable Legends, Halo 5, Quantum Break, Crackdown 3, Gears of War and every single multiplat that the PS4 is getting.....Yep, you are right, NO GAMES!

GTFO TROLL!!!!

Where is tis 792p coming from. Ryse was 900p and 30 fps, Forza 5 was 1080p and 30 fps, CoD Ghosts was 900p and 60 fps, BF4 was 900p and 30 fps, Destiny and Alien Isolation are both confirmed by devs to be 1080p on the X1. So Im not sure where you are getting your info!

Either you're just playing stupid or you're just plain stupid.

No one knows what DX12 is capable of outside of Microsoft.

The PS4 gets 1080p by emiminating things on the screen.

Take away shadows, people and cars and decrease the draw distance and add fog.

You want to compare this to the mighty DX12?

Hell the last SDK already got the One 1080p

Justin, Simon, Robby and the rest of the lemmings are taking this news very badly.

Don't worry lads, the cloud will save the Xbox Done.

@ShoTTyMcNaDeS

BF4 is 720p on XBone, Titanfall 792p, Watch Dogs 792p, MGSV GZ 720p, COD Ghosts 720p, Dead Rising 3 720p, Killer Instinct 720p, I might have missed some too. So yeah.

REmake is 1080p on the Bone. Dat SDK is really making the difference. TCHBO.

At first I read this thread title as "2014 will not solve Sony's no game problems"

cross gen games, made without esram tools

Some are even exlusives

Do you really want to bring up Watch Dogs, 720p with more frame rate issues on the Bone? May as well have tried Sniper Elite 3.

If only PS Bore had some compelling games then TC and his ilk may have something better to do than bash X1 whenever they can day & night... Sheeeesh get a job..... or is this it? :P

STFU you silly lemming,a 256 bit buss will not increase performance,the xbox one GPU is weak period,is not a full 7790 is basically a 7770 with a 256 bit bus,which changes nothing.

That bus on the xbox one is like having a 5 lane race track so you can run with ease,but your car is a freaking Hyundai Accent.

The xbox one lack the horse power and nothing MS does will change that.

GPU: RSX “Reality Synthesizer” @ 550MHz, 1.8 T-FLOPS floating point performance

This ^^ from your link is totally wrong,it was a shameless lie the PS3 GPU wasn't 1.8TF the GPU inside the PS3 was a gimped 7800GTX which is far from 1.8TF,the sane sh** happen with AMD which claimed the xbox 360 was 1 TF,those systems were not even close to that in actual performance.

The 7800GTX was like 200Gflops and the PS3 GPU is a cut down version,so no is not 1.8TF stop saying stupid things.

dude, that's why flops don't mean anything when you're talking about game consoles. Those numbers are right , wether you like it or not. The rsx maybe based of a 7800 gtx, it isn't a 7800 gtx.

If the 256 bit bus doesn't mean anything on the x1 gpu, why does the gts 250, 9800 gtx and 8800 gtx have a 256 bit bus. They're only half the power of a hd 7790 and have ddr3 as well. If i would follow your reasoning, nvidia would have given these cards a 256 bit bus for no reason. A gtx 660ti has a 192 bit bus, if the bit bus was just like a highway, this card would be severly bottlenecked, and this in a very competive market.

Numerous weaker cards have 256 bit busses , run at slower memory and clock speeds than the 660 ti, also in a competive market.

A bit bus isn't like a highway, Go to computer school and then start arguing with me, now you just making a fool of yourself. And again, the 256 bit is also needed to communicate with the esram.

You don't understand how bitrates work and all you do is try to get the pie of your face lol., all because you want your ps4 to be that much stronger than a xboxone.

Sadly, it isn't , it has an edge, but nothing like you make it out to be. Stop crying and telling lies

I am confident in my technical knowledge. After all, I knew all along that DX12 was not going to give some dramatic performance results in a cosnole. It appears I was correct.

I seriously can't laugh hard enough when we have to time travel to the future for the XBone to have games. After all, they could be rated as garbage when they come out. Then again, you are apparently a troll and a cow when you state the obvious these days, too.

According to that linked article, at that time they were still using the Kinect in the game to call out spells. If that is still the case, then DX12 will not matter as it only allows DEVS to use the 10% reserved for Kinect processes if the Kinect is not used. Since it is being used, they do not get the extra 10%

I personally can not tell the difference between 720 and 1080p on my TV (50" LG Plasma).. maybe some people can, but I cant so it does not matter to me.

best line of the thread :D

So, if a Sony fanboy told you the sky is blue, it could not be true. Yes? Because, it's not the Sony fanboys who are your problem, then.

Math and Science dictate that the XBone is much weaker than the PS4 at this point. Blaming others for your fantasy land posting bullshit won't get you very far.

That's probably not a good thing.

Sony is cutting back on the paid shills they have scouring the internet sites that promote the PS4. They will be looking for new jobs soon. :(

if you guys are so smart why don't you give some input. I'm sure you understand how a bit bus works , don't you?

Robby, Simon and Justin still taking the news badly.

As soon as your ilk draw away from personal attacks to defend your plastic box. If you can't beat the message, by all means, attack the messenger.

If you would understand math and science , you wouldn't be saying such things

Is that so? Are you going to speak in riddles and platitudes or explain?

I have my money on riddles and platitudes. That's all we've been getting since the XBone was revealed.

Maybe you haven't been following the discussion.

@Shewgenja: StormyJoe reads the article. Notices the paragraph:

Since the console's launch last November, there's been controversy surrounding the apparent difficultiesdevelopers have when attempting to get their games running at 1080p resolution. June's update to the Xbox One software development kit--different than DirectX--opened up an additional 10 percent processing power for developers to use, which has helped some games like Destiny reach 1080p on the console.

Points at shewgenja and laughs.

Would it be considered animal cruelty to keep ripping away lemming hopes and dreams like this?

This should help any wrong doing that may have occurred.