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#101 shaggyaz
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EA?Bioware why? I hope this does not affect the quality of their games in the future
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#102 TheDarkDisciple
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Why the hell would EA want to waste a great dev like Bioware??? Damn i hope this isnt true..
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#103 WuTangG
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Yes, I'm only here for evil :twisted:

Eponique

Get ready for games with crappy online capabilities, underpowered gimped hardware, graphics worse than PS2, games with depth of PSone due to laughable hardware, emphasis on the n00b market more than the gamer market etc...

Nintendo are WORSE than EA. The reason why they went with cartridge was to control the production of all the games on their console. Evil? Yes Evil indeed.

And no, Bioware does not sell, not anymore, GAMING IS DEAD

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#104 RurouniSaiyajin
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I think they'll still make great games. But they'll be creatively restricted now, unless EA makes them a special "elite" division, kinda like Will Wright and Maxis being allowed to develop Spore and the Sims.

Then EA will take their new IP, give it to one of their lesser divisions, and spam the hell out of it with sequels and add-ons. :|

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That's what I was afraid of ;.;

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#105 WuTangG
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[QUOTE="Saturos3091"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"]

Then EA will take their new IP, give it to one of their lesser divisions, and spam the hell out of it with sequels and add-ons. :|

mjarantilla


Yup, I can see that happening. Plus, if the game has any sort of fun online capability, EA will instantly ignore all problems relating to it and create patches that fix irrelevant and unused glitches.

Yes i do because the industry only sells that crap.

Sorry but you got owned, owned by Kidtendo for buying a Wii, wow what a waste, a GC for $250:(

WuTangG



:|. No seriously. Just :|.

What REALLY should piss people off is that if BioWare does make any games with online functionality, or online multiplayer, EA will force BioWare to use EA's own servers, even for Xbox Live, because of the deal EA has with Microsoft that EA hosts its OWN games on its OWN crappy servers.

Small wonder that XBL-enabled EA games are usually bashed for having some of the sort performance. EA's Live servers suck.

Their servers are good now, hey, dedicated servers are dedicated servers. The only thing that sucks is the fact they kill them after a few years
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#106 ToScA-
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...I have tears in my eyes. Can't believe this is happening.
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#107 thirstychainsaw
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God damn do I hate EA.
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#108 mjarantilla
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Why the hell would EA want to waste a great dev like Bioware??? Damn i hope this isnt true..TheDarkDisciple

They want to capitalize on the HUUUUUUGE boost in BioWare's value that will result from Mass Effect's success. :P

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#109 Eponique
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[QUOTE="Eponique"]

Yes, I'm only here for evil :twisted:

WuTangG

Get ready for games with crappy online capabilities, underpowered gimped hardware, graphics worse than PS2, games with depth of PSone due to laughable hardware, emphasis on the n00b market more than the gamer market etc...

Nintendo are WORSE than EA. The reason why they went with cartridge was to control the production of all the games on their console. Evil? Yes Evil indeed.

And no, Bioware does not sell, not anymore, GAMING IS DEAD

God damn, I got you pissed :lol:

Not even I knew I was that evil.

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#110 Saturos3091
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What REALLY should piss people off is that if BioWare does make any games with online functionality, or online multiplayer, EA will force BioWare to use EA's own servers, even for Xbox Live, because of the deal EA has with Microsoft that EA hosts its OWN games on its OWN crappy servers.

Small wonder that XBL-enabled EA games are usually bashed for having some of the sort performance. EA's Live servers suck.

mjarantilla


Yes, that as well. Their servers for the past couple weeks have been even worse with the flood of Halo 3 players playing XBL. They really need to give us 360 gamers more support in all departments.

Yet I'm still on what seems to be a neverending crusade for patches in 360 versions of their games. They support the PC versions half-heartedly, and after a couple hundred petitions right under their noses, they finally agree to give us a patch on 360. The patch is to fix a glitch that hardly effects gameplay in regular matches. They won't rebalance the factions, and they won't fix larger, more commonly used glitches. (The game is Command and Conquer 3, Westwood would've settled for no less than excellency).
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#111 kevy619
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KOTOR 3 for 360, PC, and PS3 confirmed. LMAO.

The Evil Empire Strikes again

black_awpN1

for the 10 000th time. Bioware doesnt own KOTOR, nor did they even develop KOTOR2. People these days.

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#112 nadrojneerg
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The last generation of gaming is upon us.
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#113 Wahoo2k
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this is a sad day for rpg's on the pc.
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#114 Bdking57
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which future bioware games? MS has the publishing rigths for ME 1-2-3 which will over the next 7 years or so. And plus we all know how EA loves the PS3 with their inferior and rushed ports.

[QUOTE="mingo123"]lmao Mass Effect for ps3, pc and wii confirmedcobrax25

its still published by MS....so that pretty much means only a PC port....

however, future bioware games will likely go to every platform.

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#115 thirstychainsaw
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Well, is the sale final yet? Atleast Microsoft gets to keep Mass Effect. BioWare will probably still develop for the 360 though.
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#116 mikemil828
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Publishing rights belong to MS for Mass Effect. it'll stay 360 exclusive.BioShockOwnz

Unless EA self publishes it, after all they do own the game now.

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#117 jd7-03
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[QUOTE="mingo123"]lmao Mass Effect for ps3, pc and wii confirmeddeangallop

MGS is the publisher so no not really.

Nice. OWNED!

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#118 Danthegamingman
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ASSIMULATION COMPLETE.

NEXT TARGET UBISOFT.

RESISTANCE IS FUTILE.

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#119 V_Isle
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****** ***********.

Normally I'd have a freak out fit, but what was the last game BioWare made that I liked? 4 years ago? And Mass Effect is gonna be amazing, but EA isn't gonna touch that, MS is publishing the entire trilogy, so that should be great and no interference from EA. Obsidian could make KOTOR 3, since that belongs to LucasArts.

In other words...who cares? The entire trilogy of ME will be on MS plats...and that's all I was looking forward to when it came to Bioware...so I honestly don't see much to get pissed over. I'm certainly not looking to a Jade Empire sequel, and wouldn't care if it was multi-plat or released by EA since I don't even care about the first..Dissapointing news yeah, but what can you do? Complain? EA knows about the hatred that exists for them, they dont' care. And I don't care, I'm not gonna let this announcement ruin Mass Effect for me. Meh.

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#120 ToScA-
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It's Black Isle all over again.:cry:

...Jesus wept.

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#121 kevy619
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]Publishing rights belong to MS for Mass Effect. it'll stay 360 exclusive.mikemil828

Unless EA self publishes it, after all they do own the game now.

well not exactly, microsoft has atleast some ownership on the game.

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#122 black_awpN1
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[QUOTE="black_awpN1"]

KOTOR 3 for 360, PC, and PS3 confirmed. LMAO.

The Evil Empire Strikes again

kevy619

for the 10 000th time. Bioware doesnt own KOTOR, nor did they even develop KOTOR2. People these days.

Who the Hell owns it then? Microsoft?

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#123 Nin360
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I really think that there will not be another XBOX console. Microsoft losing 3 of its best exclusive developers(Bungie, Bioware, Bizzare Creations) in such a short time frame, the increased focus on Games for Windows, probably no Halo 4 to help a future XBOX, the lack of new game announcements in the last year, and the fact that they are not profitting in the hardware business(the $1 billion RROD fix alone nullifies the profits of Halo 3 and possibly ME combined). Don't be surprised when there is no new Xbox in the coming years.ultima-flare

I love my 360, but I have to agree with this statment. WTF is wrong with Micrsoft. Letting 3 of it's biggest developers go or sell out.

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#124 BreakingPoint8
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It's still sad news though, I think all gamers should be optimistic but prepared for the worst.

But the world is going to end in 2012 anyway, so who really cares?

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#125 mjarantilla
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[QUOTE="kevy619"][QUOTE="black_awpN1"]

KOTOR 3 for 360, PC, and PS3 confirmed. LMAO.

The Evil Empire Strikes again

black_awpN1

for the 10 000th time. Bioware doesnt own KOTOR, nor did they even develop KOTOR2. People these days.

Who the Hell owns it then? Microsoft?

A poor little man named George Lucas. :P

LucasArts publishes the KotOR games.

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#126 thirstychainsaw
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]Publishing rights belong to MS for Mass Effect. it'll stay 360 exclusive.mikemil828

Unless EA self publishes it, after all they do own the game now.

No they don't :|

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#127 Dreams-Visions
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...I have tears in my eyes. Can't believe this is happening.ToScA-

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#128 kevy619
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[QUOTE="kevy619"][QUOTE="black_awpN1"]

KOTOR 3 for 360, PC, and PS3 confirmed. LMAO.

The Evil Empire Strikes again

black_awpN1

for the 10 000th time. Bioware doesnt own KOTOR, nor did they even develop KOTOR2. People these days.

Who the Hell owns it then? Microsoft?

Lucas Arts.

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#129 d_agra
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its funny how people act here. Can some of you put console wars aside and think about the bigger picture

Bioware is one of the most respectable developer i know and have created some of the best RPGs ever

his is indeed a very sad day for gaming and for any gamers!!

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#130 mikemil828
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[QUOTE="mikemil828"]

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]Publishing rights belong to MS for Mass Effect. it'll stay 360 exclusive.kevy619

Unless EA self publishes it, after all they do own the game now.

well not exactly, microsoft has atleast some ownership on the game.

They'll just do a project origin and port it that way.

Also I don't get all the EA hate, plenty of good games have come out of EA, SSX, the new Burnouts, Need for Speed has almost always been good, etc. etc.

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#131 jackvegas21
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This means future bioware games will be mulitplat. and thats bad for 360 owners and good for ps3/wii owners. unless EA ruins bioware then its bad for EVERYONE.Bren128

I agree with it being good for ps3 owners. Wii owners not so much. Seriously, how do you think Mass Effect would look on the Wii?

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#132 Bgrngod
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Mass Effect 2 - Nov 2008 - 2 more missions then Mass Effect!

Mass Effect 3 - Nob 2009 - 2 more missions then Mass Effect2!

Mass Effect 4- Nov 2010 - 2 more missions then Mass Effect3!

Mass Effect5- Nov 2011 - 2 more missions then Mass Effect4!

Mass Effect6- Nov 2012 - 2 more missions then Mass Effect5!

Can you see where this is going?

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#133 Muzzle_Flashes
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This means, we PS fanboys finally get to play Bioware games, and....

Don't forget the fact that Bioware is quality, they would not rush a game, let alone give EA the power to ruin their reputation, think of EA as the back up, to fill in the cracks and voids, provide more money towards developement which means better quality, more workers, etc... it's not like the Orange Box situation, trust me, we have nothing to be worried about, Bioware is quality

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[QUOTE="ultima-flare"]I really think that there will not be another XBOX console. Microsoft losing 3 of its best exclusive developers(Bungie, Bioware, Bizzare Creations) in such a short time frame, the increased focus on Games for Windows, probably no Halo 4 to help a future XBOX, the lack of new game announcements in the last year, and the fact that they are not profitting in the hardware business(the $1 billion RROD fix alone nullifies the profits of Halo 3 and possibly ME combined). Don't be surprised when there is no new Xbox in the coming years.Nin360

I love my 360, but I have to agree with this statment. WTF is wrong with Micrsoft. Letting 3 of it's biggest developers go or sell out.

Microsoft didn't OWN BioWare or Bizzare Creations. Bungie wanted to make a larger profit instead of making Microsoft share holders richer. They also didn't want Microsoft breathing over their necks while they make their games, that's why Bungie left. So now they're more free to do and make what they want, but Microsoft will still be the Publisher.

Who remembers what EA did to Origin? They wanted to leave and EA shut them down, kept all their Franchises/IPs and disbanded the whole studio.

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#135 Panzer_Zwei
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It's Black Isle all over again.:cry:

...Jesus wept.

ToScA-

How is Black Isle all over again? to begin a part of Black Isle spilt after Fallout and went to make Troika. Then Black Isle was disbanded by their owner and publisher Interplay. They always had to deal with Interplay and still and went good games.

Bioware although not bought, is used to deal with the lest optimal publshers (to say the least) like Interplay and Atari. Which were not known for their patience.

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#136 peacebringer
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WOW EA is super Multiplat heaven so what does that say about Biowares Exclusivity?

Short Term= nothing i think Mass Effect will still only be for Xbox 360

Future= It's over all games = Multiplat.

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#137 solidgamer
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at least we get mass effect 1.4 next year
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#138 ToScA-
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Mass Effect 2 - Nov 2008 - 2 more missions then Mass Effect!

Mass Effect 3 - Nob 2009 - 2 more missions then Mass Effect2!

Mass Effect 4- Nov 2010 - 2 more missions then Mass Effect3!

Mass Effect5- Nov 2011 - 2 more missions then Mass Effect4!

Mass Effect6- Nov 2012 - 2 more missions then Mass Effect5!

Can you see where this is going?

Bgrngod

We'll see 50 Baldur's Gate sequels before I die:cry:

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#139 Viviath
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[QUOTE="greenleaf2000"]Sony should just buy EA and end the console war.mjarantilla

Sony doesn't have any money left after the PS3 to buy anything.

You do realize that sony has more than just a games division...right? But yes, EA is too big an entity for Sony or Nintendo or Microsoft to realistically buy. They could, but the price would be steep that it would be a very risky gamble.

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#140 Ibacai
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Ugh, I hope this doesn't mean the Bioware seal of excellence will be ruined but it looks to be true. This is not good news.
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#141 mjarantilla
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[QUOTE="Bren128"]This means future bioware games will be mulitplat. and thats bad for 360 owners and good for ps3/wii owners. unless EA ruins bioware then its bad for EVERYONE.jackvegas21

I agree with it being good for ps3 owners. Wii owners not so much. Seriously, how do you think Mass Effect would look on the Wii?

BioWare is developing for the DS.

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#142 Dreams-Visions
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its funny how people act here. Can some of you put console wars aside and think about the bigger picture

Bioware is one of the most respectable developer i know and have created some of the best RPGs ever

his is indeed a very sad day for gaming and for any gamers!!

d_agra

All facts. But again, it's the business. It is expected now. Blame gamers wanting mooooore nextGen graphixxx and physics making dev costs to keep up with the Jones' skyrocket.

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#143 ToScA-
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[QUOTE="ToScA-"]

It's Black Isle all over again.:cry:

...Jesus wept.

Panzer_Zwei

How is Black Isle all over again?

I meant emotionally :(

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#144 DHReese
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There is a disturbance in the force. Millions of Bioware worshippers cry out in terror.
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#145 WeAreToast
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And I will now be waiting for Madden 09, which will feature cutscenes with dialogue selection.
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#146 peacebringer
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[QUOTE="kevy619"][QUOTE="black_awpN1"]

KOTOR 3 for 360, PC, and PS3 confirmed. LMAO.

The Evil Empire Strikes again

black_awpN1

for the 10 000th time. Bioware doesnt own KOTOR, nor did they even develop KOTOR2. People these days.

Who the Hell owns it then? Microsoft?

Lucas Arts. Hello Star Wars. does Nintendo own 007? nope but they made Goldenye 007. Bioware can not make another Kotor cause Lucas arts won't let them. So they made Mass Effect(wich probally is Kotor3)
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#147 Dreams-Visions
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There is a disturbance in the force. Millions of Bioware worshippers cry out in terror.DHReese
someone should link up their forums. I bet it's going crazy.
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#148 ToScA-
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[QUOTE="DHReese"]There is a disturbance in the force. Millions of Bioware worshippers cry out in terror.Dreams-Visions
someone should link up their forums. I bet it's going crazy.

I've been scouting around there for a while. No one seems to have caught up the news...or I'm looking at the wrong boards.

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#149 den4sir
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I saw it too http://money.cnn.com/2007/10/11/technology/ea_vg/index.htm?postversion=2007101117

It comes to show that console makers need to make their consoles last longer or make consoles upgradeable, meaningbeing able to replace GPU's and processors. I think that consoles shouldn't go to the extreme that PC's go to however, upgradeable parts would be a good answer to thosesmaller developers from being taken over by companies such as EA. I still feel consoles are the way to go when it comes to gaming due to the fact that if there are any hardware or software problems, those tend to get resolved much quicker since you have families complaining as opposed to just theone PC user.

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#150 BreakingPoint8
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[QUOTE="ultima-flare"]I really think that there will not be another XBOX console. Microsoft losing 3 of its best exclusive developers(Bungie, Bioware, Bizzare Creations) in such a short time frame, the increased focus on Games for Windows, probably no Halo 4 to help a future XBOX, the lack of new game announcements in the last year, and the fact that they are not profitting in the hardware business(the $1 billion RROD fix alone nullifies the profits of Halo 3 and possibly ME combined). Don't be surprised when there is no new Xbox in the coming years.Nin360

I love my 360, but I have to agree with this statment. WTF is wrong with Micrsoft. Letting 3 of it's biggest developers go or sell out.

Microsoft didn't OWN BioWare or Bizzare Creations. Bungie wanted to make a larger profit instead of making Microsoft share holders richer. They also didn't want Microsoft breathing over their necks while they make their games, that's why Bungie left. So now they're more free to do and make what they want, but Microsoft will still be the Publisher.

Who remembers what EA did to Origin? They wanted to leave and EA shut them down, kept all their Franchises/IPs and disbanded the whole studio.