Edge Magazine's credibility has been VAPORIZED.

witcher a 5? wow. have to say i completly disagree with that. its an 8.5 game in my book.

ive never really put much weight to edges reviews though. there articles and features are better imho. however my fav multiplat mag is Games.....thats a brilliant mag imho. i find that i do agree with their scores more than i do other multiplats.

id be interested to see the review itself...see what they docked marks for. my guess is bugs, some bad translation in places and not the best execution with regards to sex scenes (ie it made the reviewer feel awkward).

That movie analogy was terrible. Explain to me what you saying?

King_of_Sorrow

Coming from the guy who just compared himself to osama bin laden, basically saying that your massive fanboyism is admired by some people and hated by others. Reality check; nobody admires it.

The movie analogy is about as simple as it gets. I'm not explaining anything. I make my own movie; quentin tarantino releases his own, new movie. Both get reviewed by the same source and in terms of quality are identical - therefore they should both get the same score, right?

Hell no.

[QUOTE="Gnr_Helsing"][QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"][QUOTE="Gnr_Helsing"]

Game Informer? I said Gamepro mate. Anyways The Edge magazine is comparable to Gamepro, because both magazines are terrible.

Ninja-Vox

Same thing. And no, just no. Normally i'm all "well that's your opinion..." but that is just flat out wrong. There is no way you can read GamePro and then read EDGE and say they're anywhere near the same quality.

And i honestly doubt you've even read EDGE.

What you say there chap? How would I know they sold them at Barnes and Noble then? Of course I read Edge magazine, and to begin with Edge never even had credibility! That magazine is now pure garbage in my book after it gave ME a 7 and The Witcher a 5!

Because you saw them on the shelf. What kind of rediculous arguement is that? :|

And your last line PROVES that you haven't even read it. :roll:

Your silly assumptions of me not reading Edge is pretty hilarious like your grammar. And I'm pretty sure I didn't mentioned reading the latest issue of Edge. Just accept this comments and opinions of my if your mature, I'm pretty sure you are.

[QUOTE="Tamarind_Face"]

well thats the rule here... I cant do **** about it. A flop is a flop. I would love to change the rules or close this horrible brain melting forum.

Ninja-Vox

You said Mass Effect deserved a 7 despite having never played it. You then had a pop at some other guy for talking about Uncharted, because according to you he's never played it and therefore has no right to pass judgement.

In other words; you're a great big hypocrite. Dont blame that on "the forum".

So are you telling me that 7 is a bad score? do you know how many AAA games EDGE gave a score of 7 or lower?

You yourself should know that EDGE's scale system is different from other sites where 7 is average. 7 means its a great game... and what does 8.5 mean here? isnt it great also?

Even though I havent played it. Mass Effect deserves the score because its a great game. And gamespot seems to agree. So whats the problem? And there were so many things wrong about his statement. Uncharted and Mass Effect are two different genres. How can you compare the two? And its freaking dumb to compare the scores especially in an EDGE thread where Uncharted is scored higher than Mass Effect.

So are you telling me that 7 is a bad score? do you know how many AAA games EDGE gave a score of 7 or lower?

You yourself should know that EDGE's scale system is different from other sites where 7 is average. 7 means its a great game... and what does 8.5 mean here? isnt it great also?

Even though I havent played it. Mass Effect deserves the score because its a great game. And gamespot seems to agree. So whats the problem? And there were so many things wrong about his statement. Uncharted and Mass Effect are two different genres. How can you compare the two? And its freaking dumb to compare the scores especially in an EDGE thread where Uncharted is scored higher than Mass Effect.

Tamarind_Face

At no point did i say a thing about scores at all. So that whole paragraph is irrelevant. My point was very simple; you decided you knew what score a game deserved despite having not played it. You then criticised somebody else for doing literally exactly the same thing.

[QUOTE="King_of_Sorrow"]

That movie analogy was terrible. Explain to me what you saying?

Ninja-Vox

Coming from the guy who just compared himself to osama bin laden, basically saying that your massive fanboyism is admired by some people and hated by others. Reality check; nobody admires it.

The movie analogy is about as simple as it gets. I'm not explaining anything. I make my own movie; quentin tarantino releases his own, new movie. Both get reviewed by the same source and in terms of quality are identical - therefore they should both get the same score, right?

Hell no.

No wonder your analogy was terrible. You don't understand them. I never saidI was admire. The point of my analogy was that people have different perspective on the exact same topic.

Also if the game is the same quality, same genre, why shouldn't it get the same score?

Your silly assumptions of me not reading Edge is pretty hilarious like your grammar. And I'm pretty sure I didn't mentioned reading the latest issue of Edge. Just accept this comments and opinions of my if your mature, I'm pretty sure you are.

Gnr_Helsing

Wowsers, grammar comments eh? If you're going to be childish, allow me to point out that you used the plural of "assumptions" and then said "is". Surely that should be "are", doctor english?

:roll:

You also said "your mature", which elementary school teaches is "you're" as in "you are". "Your" is used when something belongs to you, ie "your patronising comments on my grammar have just backfired in a manner which i find hilarious."

I know you didn't read EDGE. It's not an assumption because you said they lost credibility for giving Mass Effect a 7, whereas had you actually read the Mass Effect review you wouldn't have a problem with it at all.

[QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"][QUOTE="naval"]

i am comapring hellgate and witcher. hellgate is reptitive, more buggier, nothing special and i cannot even think of one reason that it could be better ! seriously when there are so many sites which do a nice review and give a almost proper score , i don't really need to read edge magzine.

naval

You're just proving my point every time you post. At no point do they say Hellgate is better than the Witcher.

same genre, same platform , higher number for hellgate ! what does that mean ?

yes, why not ! its the game i am reviewing not the producer not the hype. if scores give opposite picture they why use them at all ?

[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="Out_Kast3000"]

Lemmings = Owned with Mass Effect

I can see why someone would give it a 7.

The game was obviously rushed and unfinished, and it's combat system is bad.

King_of_Sorrow

Which is funny because what you are implying is that a rushed, unfinished game with a bad combat system is still better then Uncharted :|

because Uncharted is a RPG too. :| People wonder why I defend the PS3...

What difference does the genre mean? It outscored it here and across the board? As to your reasons why you defend the PS3. Don't even bother explaining. I'm not here to question why anyone likes anything.

No wonder your analogy was terrible. You don't understand them. I never saidI was admire. The point of my analogy was that people have different perspective on the exact same topic.

Also if the game is the same quality, same genre, why shouldn't it get the same score?

King_of_Sorrow

Ok then; and your "different perspective" just happens to ALWAYS WITHOUT FAIL be whichever one is most favourable for Sony?

:roll:

If you honestly think my analogy (in fact it wasn't even an analogy anyway...) was terrible, we should stop this right here. I cant simplify further without saying "if i have one apple, and i take one away...."

Your last question also boggles the mind. Please, rather than just reply with the absolute gainsay of whatever i say, think about this for a second:

Quentin Tarantino makes a movie. A kid also makes a movie and puts it on youtube. He did it with a camcorder and a few friends. Critics decide both films are pretty much the same in quality; will they both get the same score? Of course not. And if you honestly think they would, this conversation is ending immediately.

[QUOTE="Gnr_Helsing"]

Your silly assumptions of me not reading Edge is pretty hilarious like your grammar. And I'm pretty sure I didn't mentioned reading the latest issue of Edge. Just accept this comments and opinions of my if your mature, I'm pretty sure you are.

Ninja-Vox

Wowsers, grammar comments eh? If you're going to be childish, allow me to point out that you used the plural of "assumptions" and then said "is". Surely that should be "are", doctor english?

:roll:

You also said "your mature", which elementary school teaches is "you're" as in "you are". "Your" is used when something belongs to you, ie "your patronising comments on my grammar have just backfired in a manner which i find hilarious."

I know you didn't read EDGE. It's not an assumption because you said they lost credibility for giving Mass Effect a 7, whereas had you actually read the Mass Effect review you wouldn't have a problem with it at all.

:lol: Gnr_Helsing self-owned himself ROFLMAO! I also love it when people try and flame others for misspelling the word grammar. That has to be THE most self-owning times on the internets.

yes, why not ! its the game i am reviewing not the producer not the hype. if scores give opposite picture they why use them at all ?

naval

This has been said about a billion times to you; but if you actually READ THE REVIEW the score will always make sense. About a third of the time they dont even give a score because it's too ambiguous.

What difference does the genre mean? It outscored it here and across the board? As to your reasons why you defend the PS3. Don't even bother explaining. I'm not here to question why anyone likes anything.

Blackbond

Genre changes everything man. Look at a game like puzzle quest. It out-scored mass effect. Does that mean it's better? Heck no. It just means it's awesome as far as $15 puzzle games go.

[QUOTE="King_of_Sorrow"]

No wonder your analogy was terrible. You don't understand them. I never saidI was admire. The point of my analogy was that people have different perspective on the exact same topic.

Also if the game is the same quality, same genre, why shouldn't it get the same score?

Ninja-Vox

Ok then; and your "different perspective" just happens to ALWAYS WITHOUT FAIL be whichever one is most favourable for Sony?

:roll:

If you honestly think my analogy (in fact it wasn't even an analogy anyway...) was terrible, we should stop this right here. I cant simplify further without saying "if i have one apple, and i take one away...."

Your last question also boggles the mind. Please, rather than just reply with the absolute gainsay of whatever i say, think about this for a second:

Quentin Tarantino makes a movie. A kid also makes a movie and puts it on youtube. He did it with a camcorder and a few friends. Critics decide both films are pretty much the same in quality; will they both get the same score? Of course not. And if you honestly think they would, this conversation is ending immediately.

Quality is the same for Tarantino and the kid. Movies and games are graded on quality right?

[QUOTE="Tamarind_Face"]

So are you telling me that 7 is a bad score? do you know how many AAA games EDGE gave a score of 7 or lower?

You yourself should know that EDGE's scale system is different from other sites where 7 is average. 7 means its a great game... and what does 8.5 mean here? isnt it great also?

Even though I havent played it. Mass Effect deserves the score because its a great game. And gamespot seems to agree. So whats the problem? And there were so many things wrong about his statement. Uncharted and Mass Effect are two different genres. How can you compare the two? And its freaking dumb to compare the scores especially in an EDGE thread where Uncharted is scored higher than Mass Effect.

Ninja-Vox

At no point did i say a thing about scores at all. So that whole paragraph is irrelevant. My point was very simple; you decided you knew what score a game deserved despite having not played it. You then criticised somebody else for doing literally exactly the same thing.

wtf is your problem? we had totally different statements. Stop comparing ine with him. And even though I havent played the game... Dont I have a right to praise it?

And please know what you say cause awhile ago you passed judgement on me... saying I dont have a 360 even though you dont know me.

Yes I own both an xbox and 360.

Quality is the same for Tarantino and the kid. Movies and games are graded on quality right?

King_of_Sorrow

:| Holy cow.

I've honestly had enough talking about this. I dont want to say anything that will get me moderated. Just forget it.

[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="Out_Kast3000"]

Lemmings = Owned with Mass Effect

I can see why someone would give it a 7.

The game was obviously rushed and unfinished, and it's combat system is bad.

Tamarind_Face

Which is funny because what you are implying is that a rushed, unfinished game with a bad combat system is still better then Uncharted :|

So youve played both? :|

Or your just basing it on "scores" mixed with stuff from your ***.

Mixing it with stuff from my ass eh? What stuff? I never described either game in any way shape or form other then using what he said. Like wise I never gave my opinion on either game as well other then the scores that have been given across the board.

wtf is your problem? we had totally different statements. Stop comparing ine with him. And even though I havent played the game... Dont I have a right to praise it?

And please know what you say cause awhile ago you passed judgement on me... saying I dont have a 360 even though you dont know me.

Yes I own both an xbox and 360.

Tamarind_Face

Of course i know you. You disappeared for a while but you're one of the worst sony fanboys around here. I dont have any problem; my point was very simple, you said a game deserved a given score even though you hadn't even played it. Somebody else said something similar and you responded with "like you've played both", which as far as i'm concerned is complete hypocrisy.

Even if you think that poster's comments were completely wrong; doesn't make a difference. If you can pass blind judgement on games you haven't played, dont have a pop at other people when they do.

I never said they lost credibility. How can I say that when they never even had any?! Your getting highly offensive on this thread, you may need to turn off your PC and watch an episode of "Family Matters" LOl Because your arguing with everyone that writes a comment! You may also need to go out more. And if you want to play the assumption game. Then I know for fact you have no life or a girlfriend (I don't really know the truth since I'm playing the assumption game)

Gnr_Helsing

How am i getting offensive? Are you just upset because you made a childish grammar comment and it exploded in your face? Dont be.

You said the magazine was garbage because of the mass effect score; how you can come back from that and then say "but i never said they lost credibility :cry:" is beyond me.

You also just said i have no girlfriend. I can only assume i'm talking to a child; and no, that's not a flame, nor is it intended to be offensive. It's a genuine assumption based on what you're giving me here; pointless, irrelevant comments.

Basically, you got horribly owned so your response is: "DUDE, get out more, LOL!"

Nice. :roll:

[QUOTE="King_of_Sorrow"]

Quality is the same for Tarantino and the kid. Movies and games are graded on quality right?

Ninja-Vox

:| Holy cow.

I've honestly had enough talking about this. I dont want to say anything that will get me moderated. Just forget it.

Yeah stop, please. You're not making sense. If QT makes a movie andcritics say it's great, 5 stars, then the same critics say Uwe Boll movie is the quality of QT's moviesthan, yes Uwe Boll's movie should be a 5 star also. However, if you trying to say something different please explain better or don't at all...

Yeah stop, please. You're not making sense. If QT makes a movie andcritics say it's great, 5 stars, then the same critics say Uwe Boll movie is the quality of QT's moviesthan, yes Uwe Boll's movie should be a 5 star also. However, if you trying to say something different please explain better or don't at all...

King_of_Sorrow

"The first thing you do when you cannot grasp a concept, is to blame the person who introduced it to you for explaining it incorrectly; thus making it appear as though it is not you who lacks the abillity to understand."

Never before have truer words been spoken.

Honestly; all i'd comment on here is that you have no idea how critics work. I explained this earlier but you either didn't read it or didn't get it. If you honestly think the youtube video would get the same critical response as QT's movie, i can only assume you've never read a film review in your life.

Take a film like Jackie Brown; one of the best films of the year when it came out, yet it got poor reviews despite being amazing. Why? Because people expect better from Tarantino. Critics had a higher standard. A movie could come out which isn't anywhere near as good but it would get the same critical respone because nobody expected greatness; reading both reviews however, would make it obvious to the reader that QT's film is the better picture.

Exactly the same case with EDGE.

[QUOTE="Gnr_Helsing"]

I never said they lost credibility. How can I say that when they never even had any?! Your getting highly offensive on this thread, you may need to turn off your PC and watch an episode of "Family Matters" LOl Because your arguing with everyone that writes a comment! You may also need to go out more. And if you want to play the assumption game. Then I know for fact you have no life or a girlfriend (I don't really know the truth since I'm playing the assumption game)

Ninja-Vox

How am i getting offensive? Are you just upset because you made a childish grammar comment and it exploded in your face? Dont be.

You said the magazine was garbage because of the mass effect score; how you can come back from that and then say "but i never said they lost credibility :cry:" is beyond me.

You also just said i have no girlfriend. I can only assume i'm talking to a child; and no, that's not a flame, nor is it intended to be offensive. It's a genuine assumption based on what you're giving me here; pointless, irrelevant comments.

Basically, you got horribly owned so your response is: "DUDE, get out more, LOL!"

Nice. :roll:

Owned? me? LOL! I never enjoyed Edge magazine before, but now I despise it after hearing they gave ME a 7! Please reread my comments.

[QUOTE="sexy_chimp"]

I'm sure Out Kast played them both right?

Man I hate when mindless fandboys mindlessly defend other mindless fanboys.

King_of_Sorrow

Well, Blackbond was in the wrong too.

Wrong in what? Wondering why people bash an 8.5 game but praise the hell out of an 8.0 game? You praise one you might as well praise the other. They are both pretty much in the same ball park.

[QUOTE="naval"]

yes, why not ! its the game i am reviewing not the producer not the hype. if scores give opposite picture they why use them at all ?

Ninja-Vox

This has been said about a billion times to you; but if you actually READ THE REVIEW the score will always make sense. About a third of the time they dont even give a score because it's too ambiguous.

so you mean the review will justify the 5 score given to witcher ? if yes , then the magzine is lame. i am glad i don't use it

[

Owned? me? LOL! I never enjoyed Edge magazine before, but now I despise it after hearing they gave ME a 7! Please reread my comments.

Gnr_Helsing

So you admit you never read the mass effect review? Thus, you HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY SAID ABOUT IT AT ALL. In other words, my assumption was completely correct.

Good god. And if you honestly read my last reply which annihilated your pointless "you have bad grammar" comment and didn't think "wowsers i just got completely owned", you have a bad case of denial.

[QUOTE="King_of_Sorrow"]

Yeah stop, please. You're not making sense. If QT makes a movie andcritics say it's great, 5 stars, then the same critics say Uwe Boll movie is the quality of QT's moviesthan, yes Uwe Boll's movie should be a 5 star also. However, if you trying to say something different please explain better or don't at all...

Ninja-Vox

"The first thing you do when you cannot grasp a concept, is to blame the person who introduced it to you for explaining it incorrectly; thus making it appear as though it is not you who lacks the abillity to understand."

Never before have truer words been spoken.

Honestly; all i'd comment on here is that you have no idea how critics work. I explained this earlier but you either didn't read it or didn't get it. If you honestly think the youtube video would get the same critical response as QT's movie, i can only assume you've never read a film review in your life.

Take a film like Jackie Brown; one of the best films of the year when it came out, yet it got poor reviews despite being amazing. Why? Because people expect better from Tarantino. Critics had a higher standard. A movie could come out which isn't anywhere near as good but it would get the same critical respone because nobody expected greatness; reading both reviews however, would make it obvious to the reader that QT's film is the better picture.

Exactly the same case with EDGE.

so edge reviews game devlopers rather than the games ? man they are lame

so you mean the review will justify the 5 score given to witcher ? if yes , then the magzine is lame. i am glad i don't use it

naval

You're not listening to me. They wont have to justify the 5 because - for the last time - a 5 isn't necessarily bad. You're thinking about gamespot standards when it's been explained to you time and time again that edge doesn't work that way.

You could read the review and think "for me, this game is a 10." That's how they write. The score they give it at the end (if they even do) is a summary of the game's critique's. It's problems and shortcomings, it's comparison to the standard they were expecting, or which has been created by other games.

so edge reviews game devlopers rather than the games ? man they are lame

naval

Pattern detected; regardless of how many people, nor how many attempts are made to explain this to you, you will automatically disregard anything so you can come to the conclusion that edge is lame.

Therefore, it is pointless talking to you.

[QUOTE="naval"]

so edge reviews game devlopers rather than the games ? man they are lame

Ninja-Vox

Pattern detected; regardless of how many people, nor how many attempts are made to explain this to you, you will automatically disregard anything so you can come to the conclusion that edge is lame.

Therefore, it is pointless talking to you.

you yourself said edge magzine expect more from a devloper and rates its games harshly. what does that mean ?

[QUOTE="naval"]

so you mean the review will justify the 5 score given to witcher ? if yes , then the magzine is lame. i am glad i don't use it

Ninja-Vox

You're not listening to me. They wont have to justify the 5 because - for the last time - a 5 isn't necessarily bad. You're thinking about gamespot standards when it's been explained to you time and time again that edge doesn't work that way.

You could read the review and think "for me, this game is a 10." That's how they write. The score they give it at the end (if they even do) is a summary of the game's critique's. It's problems and shortcomings, it's comparison to the standard they were expecting, or which has been created by other games.

you really like to talking in circles,. 5 may not be bad but 5 is less than 6. 'standards they were expecting' - meaning they review games on hype ?

you yourself said edge magzine expect more from a devloper and rates its games harshly. what does that mean ?

naval

I did not say it expects more from developers. It may expect more from a given developer, like bungie, bioware or VaLVE. It also doesn't rate games more "harshly" as such, rather it attempts to review the game for everybody. So you can read the review and at then end think "this game is exactly what i want" even if overall it gets a 6.

I'm sick of explaining this. I'm going on forever. If you just buy one darned issue you'll know exactly what i mean. If you dont want to do that, just do the logical thing and accept that you dont understand the way in which Edge is written and therefore cannot pass comment on their scores until you read the actual reviews and see what the context behind it is.

Arguing over something you know nothing about is just silly.

you really like to talking in circles,. 5 may not be bad but 5 is less than 6. 'standards the were expecting' - meaning the review games on hype ?

naval

For the billionth time; just because one game gets a 6 and the other gets a 5, does not mean the 6 is better. You have to read the review to put the relevant scores in context.

Jeez.

[QUOTE="naval"]

you yourself said edge magzine expect more from a devloper and rates its games harshly. what does that mean ?

Ninja-Vox

I did not say it expects more from developers. It may expect more from a given developer, like bungie, bioware or VaLVE. It also doesn't rate games more "harshly" as such, rather it attempts to review the game for everybody. So you can read the review and at then end think "this game is exactly what i want" even if overall it gets a 6.

I'm sick of explaining this. I'm going on forever. If you just buy one darned issue you'll know exactly what i mean. If you dont want to do that, just do the logical thing and accept that you dont understand the way in which Edge is written and therefore cannot pass comment on their scores until you read the actual reviews and see what the context behind it is.

Arguing over something you know nothing about is just silly.

you are really not clear on what you want to say. first you give example of how two devlopers should be rated differently and then say they don't treat it differently ! then you change your point and say it tried to review the games for everybody. bah ! its pointless arguing with someone who doesn't sticks to one point. so i take my leave from this thread. maybe if i find some firend who is stupid enough to buy this magzine , then only i will see their reviews, otherwise i am not interested in supporting such a lame magzine

[QUOTE="naval"]

you really like to talking in circles,. 5 may not be bad but 5 is less than 6. 'standards the were expecting' - meaning the review games on hype ?

Ninja-Vox

For the billionth time; just because one game gets a 6 and the other gets a 5, does not mean the 6 is better. You have to read the review to put the relevant scores in context.

Jeez.

for the ten billionth time, either their scores are usless or their reviews if they justify this scores. anyways i would not buy the magzine just to see why they gave it the score ,i when i don't really care for it.

you are really not clear on what you want to say. first you give example of how two devlopers should be rated differently and then say they don't treat it differently ! then you change your point and say it tried to review the games for everybody. bah ! its pointless arguing with someone who doesn't sticks to one point. so i take my leave from this thread. maybe if i find some firend who is stupid enough to buy this magzine , then only i will see their reviews, otherwise i am not interested in supporting such a lame magzine

naval

I haven't changed a thing. You're simply arguing for the sake of it. Just stop and look at what you're doing here logically for a second; you are honestly trying to argue with another person regarding the review style of a magazine which you have never once read.

Do you not see how rediculous that is? How did i say they dont treat it differently? What thread are you reading? I said specifically that they dont review "developers" which you pulled out of nowhere, but simply made a point that they will expect a higher standard from some studios like bunige, valve, nintendo etc. If a game shipped by a major company is unfinished, buggy, or lazy; they'll be much harsher on it because big studios have no excuse for shipping games like that.

I also said FROM THE GOD DAMN FIRST POST that they review games for everybody; that was my point, you cannot just read a score you have to read the review.

You have simply responded to everything i've said with pointless comments designed to argue for the sake of it. Even when i simply summarised how they review you could only say "they're lame."

Pathetic. It's like me arguing with a mechanic about how a car works despite not knowing a damn thing about what i'm talking about.

for the ten billionth time, either their scores are usless or their reviews if they justify this scores. anyways i would not buy the magzine just to see why they gave it the score ,i when i don't really care for it.

naval

It's honestly as if you've somehow managed to read the past fifty posts i've made and not have a damn thing i said sink in.

:|

[QUOTE="naval"]

you are really not clear on what you want to say. first you give example of how two devlopers should be rated differently and then say they don't treat it differently ! then you change your point and say it tried to review the games for everybody. bah ! its pointless arguing with someone who doesn't sticks to one point. so i take my leave from this thread. maybe if i find some firend who is stupid enough to buy this magzine , then only i will see their reviews, otherwise i am not interested in supporting such a lame magzine

Ninja-Vox

I haven't changed a thing. You're simply arguing for the sake of it. Just stop and look at what you're doing here logically for a second; you are honestly trying to argue with another person regarding the review style of a magazine which you have never once read.

Do you not see how rediculous that is? How did i say they dont treat it differently? What thread are you reading? I said specifically that they dont review "developers" which you pulled out of nowhere, but simply made a point that they will expect a higher standard from some studios like bunige, valve, nintendo etc. If a game shipped by a major company is unfinished, buggy, or lazy; they'll be much harsher on it because big studios have no excuse for shipping games like that.

I also said FROM THE GOD DAMN FIRST POST that they review games for everybody; that was my point, you cannot just read a score you have to read the review.

You have simply responded to everything i've said with pointless comments designed to argue for the sake of it. Even when i simply summarised how they review you could only say "they're lame."

Pathetic. It's like me arguing with a mechanic about how a car works despite not knowing a damn thing about what i'm talking about.

hmmm, still the same useless comments. why can't they rate the games for what are they , they are rating game and not a critque of the gaming industry? i would have agreed to read they magzine if your points were any good. 'they review games for everybody' :lol: :lol:

[QUOTE="naval"]

for the ten billionth time, either their scores are usless or their reviews if they justify this scores. anyways i would not buy the magzine just to see why they gave it the score ,i when i don't really care for it.

Ninja-Vox

It's honestly as if you've somehow managed to read the past fifty posts i've made and not have a damn thing i said sink in.

:|

if they made any sense then only they would have sunk, but sadly they didn't

sigh! its turning into a stupid flaming. any ways , my last post here . will call you again if i get to see the magzine from some of my friend

hmmm, still the same useless comments. why can't they rate the games for what are they , they are rating game and not a critque of the gaming industry? i would have agreed to read they magzine if your points were any good. 'they review games for everybody' :lol: :lol:

naval

Again, this isn't an arguement. I'm not telling you that you should read edge. :? I'm simply explaining how their reviews work, and for whatever reason, you feel the need to respond every time with the absolute gainsay of whatever i say. Only that time you couldn't even think of a response so you just say "roffle the same useless comments". You're the posting equivalent of a bottomless pit. You dont even know what you're arguing about. You just respond for the sake of it.

Hell if i were to say coffee was a hot drink, you can bet your ass you'll be here two minutes from now saying it's served cold.

I also dont see how "they review games for everybody" is funny. Heck, the first line of their review policy is "we aim to write a review which is relevant to everybody..." :? Or did you just run out of things to randomly take exception to for no reason? It's a very simple concept; they dont want to slap a game with a 10 and have everyone think "this must be good then". They write reviews whereby depending on your preferences, you will read the review and decide for yourself whether it's for you or not, rather than just saying "it's a 5, it must suck."

If you "review a game for what it is", you get a site like IGN, where everything is a god damn AAA game. That's why edge is the longest running games magazine in the world; the reviews are just better. Like i said, just read one. Or if you dont want to - at least have the common sense to understand that this is a topic on which you have no understanding and therefore it's silly to argue about it.

*i await your next pointless response, though i'm not replying to it*

[QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"][QUOTE="naval"]

for the ten billionth time, either their scores are usless or their reviews if they justify this scores. anyways i would not buy the magzine just to see why they gave it the score ,i when i don't really care for it.

naval

It's honestly as if you've somehow managed to read the past fifty posts i've made and not have a damn thing i said sink in.

:|

if they made any sense then only they would have sunk, but sadly they didn't

sigh! its turning into a stupid flaming. any ways , my last post here . will call you again if i get to see the magzine from some of my friend

Please dont.

Lemmings = Owned with Mass Effect

I can see why someone would give it a 7.

The game was obviously rushed and unfinished, and it's combat system is bad.

Out_Kast3000

[QUOTE="naval"]

hmmm, still the same useless comments. why can't they rate the games for what are they , they are rating game and not a critque of the gaming industry? i would have agreed to read they magzine if your points were any good. 'they review games for everybody' :lol: :lol:

Ninja-Vox

Again, this isn't an arguement. I'm not telling you that you should read edge. :? I'm simply explaining how their reviews work, and for whatever reason, you feel the need to respond every time with the absolute gainsay of whatever i say. Only that time you couldn't even think of a response so you just say "roffle the same useless comments". You're the posting equivalent of a bottomless pit. You dont even know what you're arguing about. You just respond for the sake of it.

Hell if i were to say coffee was a hot drink, you can bet your ass you'll be here two minutes from now saying it's served cold.

I also dont see how "they review games for everybody" is funny. Heck, the first line of their review policy is "we aim to write a review which is relevant to everybody..." :? Or did you just run out of things to randomly take exception to for no reason? It's a very simple concept; they dont want to slap a game with a 10 and have everyone think "this must be good then". They write reviews whereby depending on your preferences, you will read the review and decide for yourself whether it's for you or not, rather than just saying "it's a 5, it must suck."

If you "review a game for what it is", you get a site like IGN, where everything is a god damn AAA game. That's why edge is the longest running games magazine in the world; the reviews are just better. Like i said, just read one. Or if you dont want to - at least have the common sense to understand that this is a topic on which you have no understanding and therefore it's silly to argue about it.

*i await your next pointless response, though i'm not replying to it*

and that's what i am saying you are not going proper job of explaining how their reviews work , by saying things which have no significance or make their reviews lok even more bad

[QUOTE="King_of_Sorrow"]

No wonder your analogy was terrible. You don't understand them. I never saidI was admire. The point of my analogy was that people have different perspective on the exact same topic.

Also if the game is the same quality, same genre, why shouldn't it get the same score?

Ninja-Vox

Ok then; and your "different perspective" just happens to ALWAYS WITHOUT FAIL be whichever one is most favourable for Sony?

:roll:

If you honestly think my analogy (in fact it wasn't even an analogy anyway...) was terrible, we should stop this right here. I cant simplify further without saying "if i have one apple, and i take one away...."

Your last question also boggles the mind. Please, rather than just reply with the absolute gainsay of whatever i say, think about this for a second:

Quentin Tarantino makes a movie. A kid also makes a movie and puts it on youtube. He did it with a camcorder and a few friends. Critics decide both films are pretty much the same in quality; will they both get the same score? Of course not. And if you honestly think they would, this conversation is ending immediately.

I think I get it, but I haven't read the magazine either. I'm going to pick one up after Black Friday though.

Let me see if I got this right. We have a certain expectation of a Blizzard game. Starcraft II for instance. I'm sure people are expecting it to be as good as a Mario, Halo, FF, or Zelda. Then we have a game developed by Butthatt studios in Hindend Minnesota. If (God forbid) Starcraft II and this other game were technically equivalent and didn't have the same polish as we'd expect from a Blizzard game then Edge wouldpotentialy rate them the same or the Bliz game lower.I could see where people would be mad at the score system though, because itcould make superior games look inferior. Maybe they should go to a straight up recommended or not recommended scoring system.