End of gen sales results (sorry cows)

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#1 mysticstryk
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The next generation of gaming has officially kicked off with the release of the Wii U. With the 7th gen consoles now becoming known as "last gen" we can tally up the numbers and proclaim a "winner". So who won?

1st place: Nintendo Wii ~97.18 million units (as of september)

2nd place: Microsoft Xbox 360 ~70 million units (as of october)

3rd place: Sony Playstation 3 ~70 million units (as of november) (shipped, not sold to consumers)

It was a good game, and I don't think anyone saw this coming at the end of the 6th generation.

Congrats to Nintendo, for generating new marketshare

Congrats to Microsoft, for making Sony your *****

Congrats to Sony, for averting total destruction of the PS3

Que butthurt fanboys "but teh wiiu is not next gen" and "but teh ps3 will beat all in lifetime sales"

Sources: all taken from gamespot news articles.

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#2 lundy86_4
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Actual results:

  1. Wii
  2. PS3/360

Official numbers peg 70 million for both 360/PS3. Whilst reasonable to assume MS shipped 360s within that 6-week (odd) period, there are no numbers, thus no evidence.

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#3 Wasdie  Moderator
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>70 million sales = last place.

That alone is larger than gaming was 15 years ago.

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#4 mysticstryk
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Actual results:

  1. Wii
  2. PS3/360

Official numbers peg 70 million for both 360/PS3. Whilst reasonable to assume MS shipped 360s within that 6-week (odd) period, there are no numbers, thus no evidence.

lundy86_4

Common sense. Not to mention the 70 million for ps3 is shipped. So the actual sales are probably in the 68-69 million range.

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#5 GreenGoblin2099
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Funny how you place Sony last over 1 month, when the 360 had 1 year headstart. :roll:

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#6 balfe1990
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Officially, the 360 has sold 70 mill. We all know, that in reality, it's more than that, but there's technically no proof.

Just a convenient loophole for Kuarimen and co.

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#7 JohnF111
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In statistical comparisons we always assume a less than ~2% difference between two similar services or products to be considered the same.
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#8 mysticstryk
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>70 million sales = last place.

That alone is larger than gaming was 15 years ago.

Wasdie

Indeed. Last place is by no means a failure. Last place this gen is by no means a bad thing.

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#9 lundy86_4
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Common sense. Not to mention the 70 million for ps3 is shipped. So the actual sales are probably in the 68-69 million range.

mysticstryk

  1. We go on official shipped figures. Assuming sales is irrelevant.
  2. Both shipped the same in terms of official statements/numbers.
  3. Therefore, we have a tie.

BTW all companies release shipped numbers in their official quarterly results, which is what we use.

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#10 Easyle
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They are within 300k. Who cares at this point. They are the same, considering the 360 had a year head start.

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#11 balfe1990
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Funny how you place Sony last over 1 month, when the 360 had 1 year headstart. :roll:

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Doesn't matter if the 360 had a century of a headstart, the gen has finished and the race is over.

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#12 BigBoss255
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This gen isn't over just because Ninty finally decided to join it.
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Funny how you place Sony last over 1 month, when the 360 had 1 year headstart. :roll:

GreenGoblin2099

The 360 could have had a 2 year headstart. It doesn't change the rules.

You are correct in that the ps3 did sell faster than the 360.

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#14 lundy86_4
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This gen isn't over just because Ninty finally decided to join it.BigBoss255

  1. They joined with the Wii.
  2. Troll elsewhere.
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#15 JohnF111
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[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

Funny how you place Sony last over 1 month, when the 360 had 1 year headstart. :roll:

balfe1990

Doesn't matter if the 360 had a century of a headstart, the gen has finished and the race is over.

How can there be a race if everyone finishes at the same time?
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#16 mysticstryk
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This gen isn't over just because Ninty finally decided to join it.BigBoss255

Butthurt on an internet forum does not change the fact that the Wii U is an 8th generation console.

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...and another thread ._.

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#18 balfe1990
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[QUOTE="balfe1990"]

[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

Funny how you place Sony last over 1 month, when the 360 had 1 year headstart. :roll:

JohnF111

Doesn't matter if the 360 had a century of a headstart, the gen has finished and the race is over.

How can there be a race if everyone finishes at the same time?

Race in terms of the number of units sold, obviously. Nintendo got to 90 something million units before the other two, therefore they win.

360 and PS3 end up in a photofinish.

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#19 JohnnyCageMK
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:lol: poor cows

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What happened to the PlayStation brand?
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Am I missing something? If I'm not mistaken, there are still games on their way to the current gen consoles, so why do I see "This gen is over/finished." messages?meconate

Cows are finished.

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Am I missing something? If I'm not mistaken, there are still games on their way to the current gen consoles, so why do I see "This gen is over/finished." messages?meconate

Solely in terms of counting who wins/loses here, not in the real world.

Maybe we should get a mod to clarify this either way. There is a lot of confusion.

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another thread... usual fanboys thinking MS & Sony dont care about how many units they will keep selling in 2013 & beyond...

In 5yrs time we wont say PS3 & 360 sold X amounts till WiiU release, we'll just say PS3 & 360 sold x amount (counting all units including the ones sold even when PS4/Next Xbox were available)..

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#25 Blue_Nishin
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inb4 delusional cows start throwing around the "70.2 million" BS that was proven false over and over again. :lol:

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[QUOTE="meconate"]Am I missing something? If I'm not mistaken, there are still games on their way to the current gen consoles, so why do I see "This gen is over/finished." messages?lundy86_4

Solely in terms of counting who wins/loses here, not in the real world.

Maybe we should get a mod to clarify this either way. There is a lot of confusion.

Probably because Nintendo finally decided to join in current gen consoles but sheep are claiming a new gen has started.

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#28 balfe1990
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Am I missing something? If I'm not mistaken, there are still games on their way to the current gen consoles, so why do I see "This gen is over/finished." messages?meconate

OK, how would you determine when a gen ends? When the last console from this gen is discontinued even though that'll be well into the next gen?

As in like, 3 or 4 years? And the PS2 is still in production, so....

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#29 LLYNCES
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Why the hell does everybody just look at sales numbers around here?

The xbox 360 outperformed the PS3 in

Hardware sales (70 million as of September)
Software Sales (not debatable)
Multiplat quality (with a few exceptions)
$$ the console made (not debatable)

The PS3 isn't even on the same level as the 360 when you take into account these things. You cant just look at sales numbers and declare a winner, especially when you look at how bad Sony has been doing the past year and how much money the 360 has been raking in for Microsoft.

The Xbox 360 is a far far more successful console. This is NOT debatable. Microsoft has made far more money off the xbox 360, and this is a fact. Should we not declare the winner based on facts? Exclusives and better games are purely subject to opinion. Even if the PS3 managed to sell more (which it still is trailing) it doesn't matter. When people look back at this generation they will see where the $$ went, which is why the 360 will be #2 regardless of overall hardware sales because you have to take into account everything else.

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wait... x360 sold roughly the same as the PS3 with an year head start (year an HALF in EU and some other parts of the world) and MS made Sony its *****?

what is this, I dont even...

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#31 MonsieurX
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8th gen started but the 7th isn't done yet
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#32 lundy86_4
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Probably because Nintendo finally decided to join in current gen consoles but sheep are claiming a new gen has started.

GreenGoblin2099

Go back to your corner... Ok?

The Wii was current-gen... If you don't like it, i'm pretty sure that nobody gives a sh*t.

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#33 JohnnyCageMK
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inb4 delusional cows start throwing around the "70.2 million" BS that was proven false over and over again. :lol:

Blue_Nishin

lol they started throwing in PS2 sales and still ignored that 360 reached 70 mil months ago. Someone had even proven 360 hit 70 mil back in July.

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wait... x360 sold roughly the same as the PS3 with an year head start (year an HALF in EU and some other parts of the world) and MS made Sony its *****?

what is this, I dont even...

Vatusus

Do you realize how astronomically bad the PS3 was for Sony? Have you been on this board for this entire gen? It was horrific.

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Am I missing something? If I'm not mistaken, there are still games on their way to the current gen consoles, so why do I see "This gen is over/finished." messages?meconate
This gen isn't over. PS3/360 will continue to compete until their successors come out. Lems just can't face that PS3 is only a month behind.
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#38 Malta_1980
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="meconate"]Am I missing something? If I'm not mistaken, there are still games on their way to the current gen consoles, so why do I see "This gen is over/finished." messages?GreenGoblin2099

Solely in terms of counting who wins/loses here, not in the real world.

Maybe we should get a mod to clarify this either way. There is a lot of confusion.

Probably because Nintendo finally decided to join in current gen consoles but sheep are claiming a new gen has started.

We dont say PS2 sold 100mill (amount at the time 360 released), we say PS2 sold 150mill which is the current sales total..

Simple stuff is just too hard for fanboys to understand...

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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="meconate"]Am I missing something? If I'm not mistaken, there are still games on their way to the current gen consoles, so why do I see "This gen is over/finished." messages?GreenGoblin2099

Solely in terms of counting who wins/loses here, not in the real world.

Maybe we should get a mod to clarify this either way. There is a lot of confusion.

Probably because Nintendo finally decided to join in current gen consoles but sheep are claiming a new gen has started.

OR perhaps because power of a console has NOTHING to do with deciding a consoles generation. Wii U IS the 8th generation console and both the PS3 and 360 are 7th gen.

In terms of when the official start of the next console generation starts, I believe it has always been once the 1st next gen console comes out. That's how it's been on SWs but I think a mod should come in and clarify this.

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#40 deactivated-5cd08b1605da1
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another thread... usual fanboys thinking MS & Sony dont care about how many units they will keep selling in 2013 & beyond...

In 5yrs time we wont say PS3 & 360 sold X amounts till WiiU release, we'll just say PS3 & 360 sold x amount (counting all units including the ones sold even when PS4/Next Xbox were available)..

Malta_1980

this exactly ^^^

But no, somehow SW "rules" reign over common sense

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#41 Sushiglutton
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Gen isn't over until all three have released new consoles.

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#42 balfe1990
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wait... x360 sold roughly the same as the PS3 with an year head start (year an HALF in EU and some other parts of the world) and MS made Sony its *****?

what is this, I dont even...

Vatusus

Considering Sony's dominance in the last two gens, you don't see where he's coming from? They went from being the blatant winner twice in a row to desperately scrappig for second place.

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#43 kingtito
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[QUOTE="meconate"]Am I missing something? If I'm not mistaken, there are still games on their way to the current gen consoles, so why do I see "This gen is over/finished." messages?BigBoss255
This gen isn't over. PS3/360 will continue to compete until their successors come out. Lems just can't face that PS3 is only a month behind.

Once a mod comes in and clarifies this then we can debate further or cows are stop crying once and for all.
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We dont say PS2 sold 100mill (amount at the time 360 released), we say PS2 sold 150mill which is the current sales total..

Simple stuff is just too hard for fanboys to understand...

Malta_1980

Just because a gen ends, doesn't mean we have to give the total sales at the end of the gen... Wat?

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#45 GreenGoblin2099
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[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

Probably because Nintendo finally decided to join in current gen consoles but sheep are claiming a new gen has started.

lundy86_4

Go back to your corner... Ok?

The Wii was current-gen... If you don't like it, i'm pretty sure that nobody gives a sh*t.

Relax boy-o, clearly a joke there.

AND if you don't like it, I'm pretty sure you know I don't give a sh*t ;)

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[QUOTE="Vatusus"]

wait... x360 sold roughly the same as the PS3 with an year head start (year an HALF in EU and some other parts of the world) and MS made Sony its *****?

what is this, I dont even...

lundy86_4

Do you realize how astronomically bad the PS3 was for Sony? Have you been on this board for this entire gen? It was horrific.

Yes, it was

and?

I still dont see how selling the same numbers while being longer in the market makes someone its "b1tch"

Now saying Nintendo made both MS and Sony their ****, that I may agree on

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#47 kingtito
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Gen isn't over until all three has released new consoles.Sushiglutton
Not how it works in SWs dude. You should know this.
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wait... x360 sold roughly the same as the PS3 with an year head start (year an HALF in EU and some other parts of the world) and MS made Sony its *****?

what is this, I dont even...

Vatusus

Why would Microsoft or Sony care? All they care about is the $$$

Go ask Microsoft, would they rather have a console that sold less but made more or a console that sold more and made less? I guarantee you Sony and Microsoft would both choose the first option. This is why the Xbox 360 will be #2 this generation, the console won a long time ago. It doesn't mean the PS3 is a bad console, it just means it wasn't as big of a success as the 360 was.

and currently the 360 has sold more and made more. The winner is definitive either way.



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[QUOTE="BigBoss255"][QUOTE="meconate"]Am I missing something? If I'm not mistaken, there are still games on their way to the current gen consoles, so why do I see "This gen is over/finished." messages?kingtito
This gen isn't over. PS3/360 will continue to compete until their successors come out. Lems just can't face that PS3 is only a month behind.

Once a mod comes in and clarifies this then we can debate further or cows are stop crying once and for all.

There is no real definition for the "end of a gen." Everybody has a different view on when it ends.

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#50 Malta_1980
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[QUOTE="Malta_1980"]

We dont say PS2 sold 100mill (amount at the time 360 released), we say PS2 sold 150mill which is the current sales total..

Simple stuff is just too hard for fanboys to understand...

lundy86_4

Just because a gen ends, doesn't mean we have to give the total sales at the end of the gen... Wat?

what i meant was in 5yrs time we wont say PS3/360 sold 70million... if by 2018 PS3 would have sold 80million, thats the number we shall mention in discussions...

However if lemmings want so bad 2nd place, they can keep it... I think Ps3 fans should worry much about sales, but focus on the many great exclusives coming out in 2013..