Epic Games confirms UE4 on ps4 is mostly the same as PC verison.

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AMD has issues with Crysis 3's AA..

ronvalencia

7 months before the 360 launch the best Nvidia card was the 6800 ultra and besides Doom 3 engine games was weaker than the 360 gpu. 6800 ultra cant even run the original Bioshock at medium settings. This is why I laugh at everyone making a big deal about PS 4 because its so much weaker for today than the 360 was for 2005. All this "thank you Sony" sillyness makes me laugh everytime.

If PS4's "7860" is between 7850 and 7870 then it's about 66 precent of GTX 680 or 680 is 1.5 times faster than "7860".

[QUOTE="ShadowriverUB"][QUOTE="MBirdy88"] I know what you are trying to say. but here is what I am trying to say. I'm guessing cows think having that more RAM will make the game worlds much larger, much prettier and have much more on screen, this can be true on a very BASIC level. But anything that requires graphics rendering and A.I for example (which lets be honest is the 2 meaty aspects of a game's hardware requirements) still has to go through the CPU and GPU. There will be some tricks with all that extra RAM in the same sense that there are tricks with extra HDD/BLU RAY space..... but tiny at best. What I meant by bottleneck was: That there wont be any bottleneck for RAM this time around, however its advantages will only show through alittle longer than normal, when the CPU and GPU become dated the real limitations will be the same as the rest of the console generations. All this has done is allow accetable AND THEN SOME ammounts of RAM.....Cranler

Still won´t get 60 fps in 1080p resolutions. Especially in next gen games. We are talking here either 1080p 30 fps or 720p 60 fps. jhonMalcovich

[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]Still won´t get 60 fps in 1080p resolutions. Especially in next gen games. We are talking here either 1080p 30 fps or 720p 60 fps. tormentos

But 7850 is getting only 20 fps. So HA on you (on PS4, more precisely).

I feel sorry for those goons who just bought a $1000-$2000 legacy PC. Clearly pwned by a few hundred dollars toy. At least wait for 2014 if you're a cavemen PC gamer.

Mr_BillGates

[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]Still won´t get 60 fps in 1080p resolutions. Especially in next gen games. We are talking here either 1080p 30 fps or 720p 60 fps. tormentos

A 660Ti is the minimum I would get if you wanted great frames @1080p

But 7850 is getting only 20 fps. So HA on you (on PS4, more precisely).jhonMalcovich

[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]But 7850 is getting only 20 fps. So HA on you (on PS4, more precisely).tormentos

[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]But 7850 is getting only 20 fps. So HA on you (on PS4, more precisely).tormentos

tormentos is still arguing? :lol:

ps4 will have a low end cpu with a low-mid range gpu, get over it.

[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]Still won´t get 60 fps in 1080p resolutions. Especially in next gen games. We are talking here either 1080p 30 fps or 720p 60 fps. mastershake575

A 660Ti is the minimum I would get if you wanted great frames @1080p

[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]But 7850 is getting only 20 fps. So HA on you (on PS4, more precisely).clyde46

tormentos is still arguing? :lol:

ps4 will have a low end cpu with a low-mid range gpu, get over it.

MK-Professor

[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]But 7850 is getting only 20 fps. So HA on you (on PS4, more precisely).tormentos

Yep. PS4 totally isn´t because it won´t feature a latest i7 7850´s benchmarks were made on. Probably PS4 would stuggle even pulling those 20 fps.

Scaling down graphics would help as always.

[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]Still won´t get 60 fps in 1080p resolutions. Especially in next gen games. We are talking here either 1080p 30 fps or 720p 60 fps. tormentos

Yep. PS4 totally isn´t because it won´t feature a latest i7 7850´s benchmarks were made on. Probably PS4 would stuggle even pulling those 20 fps.

jhonMalcovich

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tormentos is still arguing? :lol:

ps4 will have a low end cpu with a low-mid range gpu, get over it.

tormentos

Yep. 8000 series, after 2 years of development, will be a total a rebag of 7000 serie because, you know, ATI hates money. It´s like they don´t need to compete with NVIDIA anymore.

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Yep. PS4 totally isn´t because it won´t feature a latest i7 7850´s benchmarks were made on. Probably PS4 would stuggle even pulling those 20 fps.

tormentos

Windows usually consumes 5-10% of CPU. Probably only 5-7% percent when running a game. So... a big margin of power between I7 and PS4´s cpu anyway.

Windows usually consumes 5-10% of CPUjhonMalcovich

[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]Windows usually consumes 5-10% of CPUtormentos

[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

tormentos is still arguing? :lol:

ps4 will have a low end cpu with a low-mid range gpu, get over it.

tormentos

just like the 7 years old 8800GTX that run games with around 2-3x times the performance of current consoles.

Also how do you feel about these facts:

• January 2012 released a single GPU that performs 2 times better than ps4
• November 2013 ps4 released.(you just waited 22 months to get half the performance:lol: )

• November 2006 ps3 released.
• January 2005 there wasn't a GPU available at the time that could even come close of the power of the ps3.

you see now this time consoles will be even more pathetic.

[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]Windows usually consumes 5-10% of CPUtormentos

Well. My hardware utility shows me my CPU consumption on Windows 7 doesn´t go beyond 10%. And I have open a few word documents and like 8 Mozilla pages. 

"Oh did you know the PS4 GPU can run graphics and compute jobs without stopping one to run the other.?"

You mean like any PC does. By the way, I assume PS4 OS won´t consume CPU at all :P

[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]Windows usually consumes 5-10% of CPUtormentos

Oh you can't do that because that is what console get flame for,giving up detail to achieve playable frames,is so funny to see some one talking about lowering detail to get frames on close to $500 GPU... In fact that is how PS4 will run most games instead of very high it will use high,or drop MSAA and by your words the difference should be minimal.. In fact the 7850 at 1080p on high can run crysis 3 close to 40FPS with MSAA x2 an 8XAF.tormentos

When people argue over settings turned down there mainly referring to the main settings (resolution, AF/AA, water, textures, shadows). Those are the ones that are really noticeable

[QUOTE="Cranler"] 4gb with a higher clock cpu and better gpu would have been better but impossible due to heat issues. Biggest reason for the 8gb is that Sony needed something to wow people since the cpu and gpu are so underwhelming. tormentos

You speak as if any graphics card could handle high res textures if they only had a lot of ram. Crysis 3 uses about 2gb at of vram at 1080p. The PS 4 doesnt have the power to handle a game with that much of an improvement over Crysis. Even the Titan will be obsolete when games start using 5gb of vram at 1080p.

PC games were using more than 512mb when the 360 launched. Thats why devs were complaining. Right now no game even comes close to using 8gb on pc. Crysis 3 uses a total of 3gb.

Guy at on line at cafeteria says you didnt give me enough mash potatos so they dump the whole vat of mash potatos on his head. This is basically what Sony is doing with ram.

360 has a tri core cpu, OS 3 had the cell. What would PS 4 have as a hook without the ram?

Like the 7970 and 680GTX will on Crysis 3 at 1080p.:lol: But i guess 30 or 40 FPS is acceptable alone with 1080p on PC when it serve people best..tormentos

A 660Ti is the minimum I would get if you wanted great frames @1080p

Dropping details on console is more than just turning off post processing. You can to cut the resolution, lose a lot of graphical fidelity and effects etc just to keep the framerate at a steady pace. clyde46

[QUOTE="clyde46"] Dropping details on console is more than just turning off post processing. You can to cut the resolution, lose a lot of graphical fidelity and effects etc just to keep the framerate at a steady pace. mastershake575

I'm not sure what to think of ue4 yet, the only actual gameplay I've seen of it looked absolutely terrible with that Slender Esque game.