Exclusives don't matter as much as people say.

[QUOTE="FriendlyGaimz"]360 fans shouted at the top of their lungs form the beginning of the gen untill about MGS4's release that EXCLUSIVES WERE ALL THAT MATTERED. Now that they don't have any anymore they don't matter? Hmmmmmm.The_Game21x

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[QUOTE="Sooshy"]Sure, they did it first. But I don't see why that matters to my thread. I'm saying that it doesn't matter much if a game goes to the PC, as long as it isn't on the PS3. Most people just don't play games on PC.Sooshy

Consoles do ship far more games than PC's, but I think it can largely be put down to ignorance and obliviousness. I am by no means saying console gamers are stupid!! What I am try to say is that alot of console gamers just dont know.

When was the last time you saw advertisements for gaming on the PC? Sure games like SC2 will get some acknowledgement but a hell of alot of people have no idea what it is.

I used to be exclusively a console gamer, back when I was 13 :P and there's another fact about console gaming, alot of young people play on them and immediately dismiss PC gaming because it's "too expensive" or too hard to get into because of the controls and the building/maintaining of a system.

The reality is completely different, in the long run PC gaming is probably about the same price as console gaming. Controls, they are just different, as with anything new it's daunting and confusing at first but in time you get used to it. On the technical side, pretty much anyone with basic computer knowledge can maintain a PC, that's what the interenet is for, help.

Consoles are very user friendly there's no denying it and this is why they are so big, because people don't want to venture out of their comfort zone. Granted alot of people don't have the time for PC's but if you have time to play games for hours on end, you have the time.

I do agree with the original premise. If you can't get a game on any other console, I'm sure it does factor into things. People on this site get so crazed about "exclusives" that they've concocted some rules that have no meaning in a real world. Typically the bigger and more diverse a game library, the better.

Looks like this thread turned into a "ps3 vs 360" exclusive thread again :roll: Lets completely ignore the wii and PC lolSp4rtan_3

[QUOTE="Sooshy"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"] They criticized them for not having exclusives. Even when it got Oblivion and Ninja Gaiden it was still criticized. Ragnarok1051

goes to search for link...

[QUOTE="Sp4rtan_3"]Looks like this thread turned into a "ps3 vs 360" exclusive thread again :roll: Lets completely ignore the wii and PC lolrandomguy15

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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"] Superior multiplats? Its still the same game and is still playable. Who cares if it has a few less FPS? Honestly the whole superior multiplat thing is exaggerated. Ragnarok1051

[QUOTE="Sp4rtan_3"]Looks like this thread turned into a "ps3 vs 360" exclusive thread again :roll: Lets completely ignore the wii and PC lolrandomguy15

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="FriendlyGaimz"]360 fans shouted at the top of their lungs form the beginning of the gen untill about MGS4's release that EXCLUSIVES WERE ALL THAT MATTERED. Now that they don't have any anymore they don't matter? Hmmmmmm.FriendlyGaimz

BS lies? I was there. I've been here for more than five years. I know what was said back in those days.

And exactly how would you know if what I'm saying is a lie? You've hardly been around long enough to remember what was said back in those days...unless you were around in those days and were banned...

I disagree.

If I wanted a console I'd buy a PS3 with no second thoughts, and that's only because of its exclusives.

[QUOTE="FriendlyGaimz"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"] Sony fans said the opposite at the beginning of the generation and now they've changed their tune. There's hypocrisy on both sides of the argument, not just one.The_Game21x

BS lies? I was there. I've been here for more than five years. I know what was said back in those days.

And exactly how would you know if what I'm saying is a lie? You've hardly been around long enough to remember what was said back in those days...unless you were around in those days and were banned...

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[QUOTE="Sp4rtan_3"]Looks like this thread turned into a "ps3 vs 360" exclusive thread again :roll: Lets completely ignore the wii and PC lolSp4rtan_3

BS lies. They said "Just Wait" Short memory eh? Or is it just damage control? ;)FriendlyGaimz

BS lies? I was there. I've been here for more than five years. I know what was said back in those days.

And exactly how would you know if what I'm saying is a lie? You've hardly been around long enough to remember what was said back in those days...unless you were around in those days and were banned...

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[QUOTE="FriendlyGaimz"] BS lies. They said "Just Wait" Short memory eh? Or is it just damage control? ;)FriendlyGaimz

BS lies? I was there. I've been here for more than five years. I know what was said back in those days.

And exactly how would you know if what I'm saying is a lie? You've hardly been around long enough to remember what was said back in those days...unless you were around in those days and were banned...

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"] They criticized them for not having exclusives. Even when it got Oblivion and Ninja Gaiden it was still criticized. Stevo_the_gamer

The hypocirites of xbox360 are funny.

using your own excluses for xbox360 now, :o it still has high rated multiplats that could be played on PS3. It still had a large selection of quality AAE and yeah :roll: AE games to play.

Your argument doesn't hold any weight now.

Your argument doesn't hold any weight now.

hard_body79

Not sure what would make you think that.

[QUOTE="sonicare"][QUOTE="FriendlyGaimz"]Maybe I lurked? Just admit it, you got caught.FriendlyGaimz

Did any of us deny that "Just wait" wasn't a popular saying back then? No, we did not. What we did say is that they were saying that exclusives didn't matter on top of "just wait".

[QUOTE="Sp4rtan_3"][QUOTE="randomguy15"]I actually don't think this thread has been this ridiculous yet. And the PC has had very very little exclusives lately, and Wii exclusives are good but it's just not up to par with the 360 and PS3. Plus this thread was made mostly about the point of PC/360 games not mattering as much as PS3 exclusives. Which most fanboys believe.

randomguy15

It would seem that exclusives are the be-all and end-all for any cow's argument. I'll concede that PS3 has more high quality exclusives than the 360, but I also don't think it matters that much. If 360 exclusives were as important as people make them out to be, why would the 360 beat the PS3 every month in the NPD's? I'll tell you why: Becuase you can't get the games on the PS3.

You may be able to get them on the PC, but that is a very niche market. "but world of warcraft has 11 million subs!" How many of those people are actually hardcore gamers who would play Mass Effect 2? Maybe 10% of WoW's subscriber base? Face it. 360 games on PC make very little difference when the average consumer is trying to decide between the 360 and PS3.

Sooshy

So your last paragraph is impying that console fanboys are actually more hardcore than pc fanboys? as for WoW not having many hardcore players, you don't know what hardcore is until you meet some top raider or arena pvpers, best way to justify how much time you spend gaming and make you feel better about yourself :P. I realise this wasn't what this thread is about and I agree that multiplats are extremely important, its just the last half of your opening post is extremely ignorant :oops:.

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[QUOTE="Sp4rtan_3"]Looks like this thread turned into a "ps3 vs 360" exclusive thread again :roll: Lets completely ignore the wii and PC lolBazooka_4ME

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"] They criticized them for not having exclusives. Even when it got Oblivion and Ninja Gaiden it was still criticized. hard_body79

The hypocirites of xbox360 are funny.

using your own excluses for xbox360 now, :o it still has high rated multiplats that could be played on PS3. It still had a large selection of quality AAE and yeah :roll: AE games to play.

Your argument doesn't hold any weight now.

[QUOTE="Sp4rtan_3"]Looks like this thread turned into a "ps3 vs 360" exclusive thread again :roll: Lets completely ignore the wii and PC lolrandomguy15

According to this, the PC has had 34 exclusives with a score of over 8 in the last 3 years, whilst the Wii has had 28, PS3 has 19 and the 360 has 14.

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[QUOTE="Sp4rtan_3"] What do you mean "not on par" I thought that kind of statement died when SMG1 got GOTY years ago :roll: Lets face the fact that wii exclusive do matter and so does PC and this hole "Its not on ps3 so its exclusive" argument is complete nonsense.Sp4rtan_3

I lurked I remember it perfectly. FriendlyGaimz

wow lemmings did really change their tune, at the beginnig of the gen exclusives were what they always talked about, while cows had to say just wait for years.1stPlaceWinner

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="Sooshy"]I'm saying that people point to 360 games going to PC in an effort to downplay the system's game library. It does matter a little, but people act like it's a system killer.Sooshy

[QUOTE="FriendlyGaimz"]360 fans shouted at the top of their lungs form the beginning of the gen untill about MGS4's release that EXCLUSIVES WERE ALL THAT MATTERED. Now that they don't have any anymore they don't matter? Hmmmmmm.The_Game21x

it amazes me how the accusing faction fail to recognize their own hypocrisy

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[QUOTE="Sp4rtan_3"]Looks like this thread turned into a "ps3 vs 360" exclusive thread again :roll: Lets completely ignore the wii and PC lollucfonzy

According to this, the PC has had 34 exclusives with a score of over 8 in the last 3 years, whilst the Wii has had 28, PS3 has 19 and the 360 has 14.

I seem to remember it was all that 360 fans could talk about in 06 and 07. PS3 fans were constantly criticized for bringing up multiplats and having no AAA exclusives. Turnabout is fair play.

Ragnarok1051

[QUOTE="FriendlyGaimz"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"] Sony fans said the opposite at the beginning of the generation and now they've changed their tune. There's hypocrisy on both sides of the argument, not just one.The_Game21x

BS lies? I was there. I've been here for more than five years. I know what was said back in those days.

And exactly how would you know if what I'm saying is a lie? You've hardly been around long enough to remember what was said back in those days...unless you were around in those days and were banned...

Let's do a Link or shut it up test???

let's put your word to the test since cows obviously said this? I'd like to see it.

find a link to back up your claims and I'll, look for a link to back up his. :wink: how much you want to bet you can't find a link to back up what you're saying but I can find a link to back up his???

The market is moving towards first-party developers to build high-quality games, and in this area Sony has been doing a great job. I can see exclusives being dominant again if there's a console that has the powerful hardware, and sales. While the Wii has taken a commanding lead, I think a lot of developers are turned off by the weak hardware, and lack of traditional controller scheme.

I mean ask yourself do you think developers really want to make a game such as for example a Gears of War with motion based controls? I certaintely don't think so. But that's just my opinion.

[QUOTE="Sp4rtan_3"][QUOTE="randomguy15"]Oh boy. Ok I never said wii exclusives didn't matter, it's just the fact other console exclusives seem to be of higher quality with a few exceptions. And I never said PC/360 games were exclusive, but it's still not on the PS3, which gives the 360 an edge.

randomguy15

[QUOTE="1stPlaceWinner"]wow lemmings did really change their tune, at the beginnig of the gen exclusives were what they always talked about, while cows had to say just wait for years.ohthemanatee

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I seem to remember it was all that 360 fans could talk about in 06 and 07. PS3 fans were constantly criticized for bringing up multiplats and having no AAA exclusives. Turnabout is fair play.

savagetwinkie

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[QUOTE="randomguy15"]I actually don't think this thread has been this ridiculous yet. And the PC has had very very little exclusives lately, and Wii exclusives are good but it's just not up to par with the 360 and PS3. Plus this thread was made mostly about the point of PC/360 games not mattering as much as PS3 exclusives. Which most fanboys believe.

randomguy15

According to this, the PC has had 34 exclusives with a score of over 8 in the last 3 years, whilst the Wii has had 28, PS3 has 19 and the 360 has 14.

Oh you were? Oh ok, let me adjust that. The PC has had 1, the xbox has had 2. The PS3 has had many and has many more incoming.

Exclusives can determine what system a particular person purchases, so yes, they do matter, alot. :P

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]

I seem to remember it was all that 360 fans could talk about in 06 and 07. PS3 fans were constantly criticized for bringing up multiplats and having no AAA exclusives. Turnabout is fair play.

Ragnarok1051

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[QUOTE="FriendlyGaimz"] BS lies. They said "Just Wait" Short memory eh? Or is it just damage control? ;)hard_body79

BS lies? I was there. I've been here for more than five years. I know what was said back in those days.

And exactly how would you know if what I'm saying is a lie? You've hardly been around long enough to remember what was said back in those days...unless you were around in those days and were banned...

Let's do a Link or shut it up test???

let's put your word to the test since cows obviously said this? I'd like to see it.

find a link to back up your claims and I'll, look for a link to back up his. :wink: how much you want to bet you can't find a link to back up what you're saying but I can find a link to back up his???

You seriously expect me to try to find a link from 2006/2007 to prove my statement correct? Quite frankly, if you so adamantly don't want to believe me, then fine. Don't. I won't lose any sleep over it.

But, hey, if you'd like to find a link from back then to prove me wrong, good luck but I won't hold my breath.

Exclusives can determine what system a particular person purchases, so yes, they do matter, alot. :P

AnaleFaust

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[QUOTE="Sp4rtan_3"] How is it fact that they're high quality ? what link or statment can you show me that that is true ?Sp4rtan_3

And then we go back to the topic title, "exclusives don't matter as much as people say." SMG2 is the only quality exclusive I'd like to play that came out for the wii this year. And I rarely hear anyone say I'm going to buy a wii for exlusives. And SC2 is the only PC exclusive I know that came out this year. Like I said the 360 has plenty of quality exclusives.

randomguy15

lol, thread title definitely backlashed against TC. And sorry to disappoint but the Wii's quality exclusives and such excuses doesn't revolve around you. :|

Ugh, wow. Im not going to even attempt to dive in that messup of a second paragraph. Its wrong on so many levels. Why "cows" are the issue here is unknown also. They do matter though. If a system was filled with multiplats all around, what would be the point in owning all three consoles?..much less the wii. None. You would pick the one with the most features, best tech, and overall better experience and move on. They keep the market for all three strong.