Fallout 3: Sluggish, soulless and forgettablet ?!!!

hmmm...

Quote -"This article is not a test. Just an "introduction for things to come". Why? Because the conditions under which I had to play this "RPG" were not acceptable: sixteen hours in a row in a luxurious hotel on an almost finished build, Bethesda asking to see my screenshots in order to "approve" them...These factors, going from obnoxious to truly scandalous would have made my review biased or even dishonest. Well, I mean a little more dishonest than what I usually do. But have no fear, even though I was deprived of my screenshots, I'm not deprived from my opinion. Condolences: Fallout 3 is a sluggish device, soulless, not exactly terrible, actually almost enjoyable, but totally forgettable because of uncountable dishonest compromises."

Quote - "Most locations you can discover are "raider dungeons". City ruins are copy-paste of the same and only model, here and there flavored by the same and only model of tricycle (the very poetic "Red Ryder") and even worse, the main quest will get you through an Hellgate London-ish nightmare in which you had to pass through kilometers of underground for hours and hours."

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edit: Woooo, Beta forums looks vewy pwetty :oops:

Heh...I find the "review" too full of hate and Blask Isle fanboyism to take it seriously.Gamer4Iife

There is no such thing a Black Isle fanboyism. They were just that good.

That sounds JUST like oblivion, down to the re-used textures for many dungeons...

i have it already, about 28 hours in. i love the game, but i must admit i do like oblivion better. xkojimax

So, we have a pirate that has the game, and loves it.

Apparently the game sounds just like Oblivion with recycled dungeons, bleh.

i have it already, about 28 hours in. i love the game, but i must admit i do like oblivion better. xkojimax

Wow, they dont even bother to hide it these days huh?

Lol a Fallout 3 review on No Mutants Allowed is about as reliable as Cow reviewing Halo 3 without playing it.Jigsaw9798

What exactly do you mean by "reliable".

Do you think he's lying when he talks about how close everything is?

Do you think he's lying about the re-used textures?

Do you think he's lying about waiting 20 seconds every time you use VAT?

Do you think he's lying about the horrific RPG elements?

Please, enlighten us, as i dont see why someone would flat-out lie about this when he has a fanbase(no matter how small it may be).

Lol a Fallout 3 review on No Mutants Allowed is about as reliable as Cow reviewing Halo 3 without playing it.Jigsaw9798

It is a French magazine named CanardPC.

But I have a felling that the Black Isle/Fallout elitists will hate Fallout 3 no matter what.

Lol a Fallout 3 review on No Mutants Allowed is about as reliable as Cow reviewing Halo 3 without playing it.Jigsaw9798

NMA didn't review it. It's from a reviewer writing for a Canadian PC gaming magazine.

[QUOTE="Jigsaw9798"]Lol a Fallout 3 review on No Mutants Allowed is about as reliable as Cow reviewing Halo 3 without playing it.mjarantilla

NMA didn't review it. It's from a reviewer writing for a Canadian PC gaming magazine.

Oh, I only skimmed though the article lol.

[QUOTE="Fawlcon_Pawnch"]

[QUOTE="xkojimax"]i have it already, about 28 hours in. i love the game, but i must admit i do like oblivion better. xkojimax

Wow, they dont even bother to hide it these days huh?

'they' ? sorry that i don't enjoy spending hundreds of dollars on video games dude. i love not having to.

Perfectly reasonable, there should be more of you

Meh coming from a hermit, I don't really give a crap what he says. My opinion is the only one that counts, I'm giving the game a shot.

[QUOTE="xkojimax"]i have it already, about 28 hours in. i love the game, but i must admit i do like oblivion better. Fawlcon_Pawnch

Wow, they dont even bother to hide it these days huh?

some people just dont care.

I've never heard of the review source CanardPC before, nor have I ever come across any of their previous reviews, so I'm just gonna go on ahead and discount whatever they say.

I'll wait for sites that I know and have used before and thus can gauge their review rating standards.

First of all, I take it you're no familiar with NMA. Asking No Mutants Allowed ANYTHING related to Fallout 3 is like asking the Sony Defense Force about anything related to Microsoft. NMA typify the silly oldschool Fallout loyalists.

Also, what they're talking about comes from a PREVIEW of the game in some no-name French magazine that nobody has heard of and no one care about.

First of all, I take it you're no familiar with NMA. Asking No Mutants Allowed ANYTHING related to Fallout 3 is like asking the hardest core Microsoft Fanboy on this site anything about Sony.

Also, what they're talking about comes from a PREVIEW of the game in some no-name French magazine.

RuprechtMonkey

Who cares if it's a preview or a "no-name French magazine".

The man brought up fundamental issues with the game.

I HIGHLY doubt he'd flat out lie about what he saw in the game(20 second VAT for example).

[QUOTE="Fawlcon_Pawnch"]

[QUOTE="xkojimax"]i have it already, about 28 hours in. i love the game, but i must admit i do like oblivion better. xkojimax

Wow, they dont even bother to hide it these days huh?

'they' ? sorry that i don't enjoy spending hundreds of dollars on video games dude. i love not having to.

People like you are full of win, thanks for supporting the industry dude.

[QUOTE="RuprechtMonkey"]

First of all, I take it you're no familiar with NMA. Asking No Mutants Allowed ANYTHING related to Fallout 3 is like asking the hardest core Microsoft Fanboy on this site anything about Sony.

Also, what they're talking about comes from a PREVIEW of the game in some no-name French magazine.

ice144

Who cares if it's a preview or a "no-name French magazine".

The man brought up fundamental issues with the game.

I HIGHLY doubt he'd flat out lie about what he saw in the game(20 second VAT for example).

Mass Effect had a lot of similar problems, but you know what? It ended up to be one of my most favorite games this gen. So none of this really bothers me, I'll still pick this game up.

[QUOTE="RuprechtMonkey"]

First of all, I take it you're no familiar with NMA. Asking No Mutants Allowed ANYTHING related to Fallout 3 is like asking the hardest core Microsoft Fanboy on this site anything about Sony.

Also, what they're talking about comes from a PREVIEW of the game in some no-name French magazine.

ice144

Who cares if it's a preview or a "no-name French magazine".

The man brought up fundamental issues with the game.

I HIGHLY doubt he'd flat out lie about what he saw in the game(20 second VAT for example).

He probably didn't flat out lie, but he definitely exaggerated.

[QUOTE="ice144"][QUOTE="RuprechtMonkey"]

First of all, I take it you're no familiar with NMA. Asking No Mutants Allowed ANYTHING related to Fallout 3 is like asking the hardest core Microsoft Fanboy on this site anything about Sony.

Also, what they're talking about comes from a PREVIEW of the game in some no-name French magazine.

Jigsaw9798

Who cares if it's a preview or a "no-name French magazine".

The man brought up fundamental issues with the game.

I HIGHLY doubt he'd flat out lie about what he saw in the game(20 second VAT for example).

He probably didn't flat out lie, but he definitely exaggerated.

you played it to know that?

[QUOTE="Fawlcon_Pawnch"]

[QUOTE="xkojimax"]i have it already, about 28 hours in. i love the game, but i must admit i do like oblivion better. xkojimax

Wow, they dont even bother to hide it these days huh?

'they' ? sorry that i don't enjoy spending hundreds of dollars on video games dude. i love not having to.

yeah, because you ride on the backs of us legitimate consumers who are actually keeping the industry alive you F#$%ING PARASITE!

reported, to Gamespot and microsoft(I have your gamertag after all)

although I doubt much will come of it

[QUOTE="Fawlcon_Pawnch"]

[QUOTE="xkojimax"]i have it already, about 28 hours in. i love the game, but i must admit i do like oblivion better. xkojimax

Wow, they dont even bother to hide it these days huh?

'they' ? sorry that i don't enjoy spending hundreds of dollars on video games dude. i love not having to.

I hope people steal from you behind your back for the rest of your life. Karma dude Karma.

seriously though, the game has to be finished to be leaked. They really need to push finished product to release faster if the want to cut down on piracy

either that or figure out how their product keeps getting leaked

[QUOTE="xkojimax"][QUOTE="Fawlcon_Pawnch"]

[QUOTE="xkojimax"]i have it already, about 28 hours in. i love the game, but i must admit i do like oblivion better. iron_zealot7531

Wow, they dont even bother to hide it these days huh?

'they' ? sorry that i don't enjoy spending hundreds of dollars on video games dude. i love not having to.

yeah, because you ride on the backs of us legitimate consumers who are actually keeping the industry alive you F#$%ING PARASITE!

reported, to Gamespot and microsoft(I have your gamertag after all)

although I doubt much will come of it

Thank you. People like this make me sick, they can at least wait until the game is 10 bucks if they're that cheap. But to flat out steal (before the game is even out too!) when they invest millions of dollars into the game just makes my blood boil.

seriously though, the game has to be finished to be leaked. They really need to push finished product to release faster if the want to cut down on piracy

either that or figure out how their product keeps getting leaked

iron_zealot7531

Products will always get leaked no matter what because they are given to retailers weeks before release. Employee's can easily leak them, take the FC2 thread for example on this page, jacboy got a retail copy early, he can easily put it on the net if he wants. What I'm saying is.. stopping your products from getting leaked is almost impossible.

[QUOTE="RuprechtMonkey"]

First of all, I take it you're no familiar with NMA. Asking No Mutants Allowed ANYTHING related to Fallout 3 is like asking the hardest core Microsoft Fanboy on this site anything about Sony.

Also, what they're talking about comes from a PREVIEW of the game in some no-name French magazine.

ice144

Who cares if it's a preview or a "no-name French magazine".

The man brought up fundamental issues with the game.

I HIGHLY doubt he'd flat out lie about what he saw in the game(20 second VAT for example).

Just like when GS, IGN 1up reviewed Oblivion after a few early negative reviews, I'll think you'll find yourself sticking to the fringe sites with stuff like this. Just because you ride the most vocal wave of hate doesn't make it the most credible, especially when it deals with Fallout 3 and originates from NMA.

[QUOTE="iron_zealot7531"]

seriously though, the game has to be finished to be leaked. They really need to push finished product to release faster if the want to cut down on piracy

either that or figure out how their product keeps getting leaked

Espada12

Products will always get leaked no matter what because they are given to retailers weeks before release. Employee's can easily leak them, take the FC2 thread for example on this page, jacboy got a retail copy early, he can easily put it on the net if he wants. What I'm saying is.. stopping your products from getting leaked is almost impossible.

yeah probably, in which case they should keep better control over it until its ready to be released.

and maybe ship it a few days in advance instead of a few weeks

[QUOTE="iron_zealot7531"]

seriously though, the game has to be finished to be leaked. They really need to push finished product to release faster if the want to cut down on piracy

either that or figure out how their product keeps getting leaked

Espada12

Products will always get leaked no matter what because they are given to retailers weeks before release. Employee's can easily leak them, take the FC2 thread for example on this page, jacboy got a retail copy early, he can easily put it on the net if he wants. What I'm saying is.. stopping your products from getting leaked is almost impossible.

THe console leakage will be hugely minimal, I think you'll find that in the sales numbers.

Please, save your breath. You're saying things that in 3 weeks will seem silly.

[QUOTE="ice144"][QUOTE="RuprechtMonkey"]

First of all, I take it you're no familiar with NMA. Asking No Mutants Allowed ANYTHING related to Fallout 3 is like asking the hardest core Microsoft Fanboy on this site anything about Sony.

Also, what they're talking about comes from a PREVIEW of the game in some no-name French magazine.

RuprechtMonkey

Who cares if it's a preview or a "no-name French magazine".

The man brought up fundamental issues with the game.

I HIGHLY doubt he'd flat out lie about what he saw in the game(20 second VAT for example).

Just like when GS, IGN 1up reviewed Oblivion after a few early negative reviews, I'll think you'll find yourself sticking to the fringe sites with stuff like this. Just because you ride the most vocal wave of hate doesn't make it the most credible, especially when it deals with Fallout 3 and originates from NMA.

NMA just has the review posted, it isn't from thier site nor it is any of them.

[QUOTE="RuprechtMonkey"][QUOTE="ice144"][QUOTE="RuprechtMonkey"]

First of all, I take it you're no familiar with NMA. Asking No Mutants Allowed ANYTHING related to Fallout 3 is like asking the hardest core Microsoft Fanboy on this site anything about Sony.

Also, what they're talking about comes from a PREVIEW of the game in some no-name French magazine.

Espada12

Who cares if it's a preview or a "no-name French magazine".

The man brought up fundamental issues with the game.

I HIGHLY doubt he'd flat out lie about what he saw in the game(20 second VAT for example).

Just like when GS, IGN 1up reviewed Oblivion after a few early negative reviews, I'll think you'll find yourself sticking to the fringe sites with stuff like this. Just because you ride the most vocal wave of hate doesn't make it the most credible, especially when it deals with Fallout 3 and originates from NMA.

NMA just has the review posted, it isn't from thier site nor it is any of them.

I guess ou didn't read it, it isn't a review.

And also, NMA will cling onto any scrap of bad news about the game they get. They've done it for the last 2 years. You're outta your league here.

[QUOTE="Espada12"][QUOTE="iron_zealot7531"]

seriously though, the game has to be finished to be leaked. They really need to push finished product to release faster if the want to cut down on piracy

either that or figure out how their product keeps getting leaked

RuprechtMonkey

Products will always get leaked no matter what because they are given to retailers weeks before release. Employee's can easily leak them, take the FC2 thread for example on this page, jacboy got a retail copy early, he can easily put it on the net if he wants. What I'm saying is.. stopping your products from getting leaked is almost impossible.

THe console leakage will be hugely minimal, I think you'll find that in the sales numbers.

Please, save your breath. You're saying things that in 3 weeks will seem silly.

All 360 games can and have been pirated.. that isn't minimal. Just because these sites like IGN and GS refuse to track console piracy doesn't mean it's huge. I mean it was horribly rampant on the PS2 and Ps1, it's the same way on the PSP, nitty lost 1 billion dollars last year due to it, and now every major title that is on the 360 is getting leaked early.. yea minimal..

so now that this piracy talk is out of the way, to the "review":

am I the only one who noticed that the game was called a "heresy" by whomever wrote this drivel. Not to mention the numerous nostalgic comments about the "good-old-days" when black isle was in control

basically alot of fanboyism and blind bethesda hatred

I love the original fallout games as much as the next guy, but if I didn't know any better I'd swear that this "review" was written by one of those foaming-at-the-mouth uber-fanboys who had dismissed fallout 3 as trash the second it was announced

I'll wait for someone a little more objective looking to sound in before I judge

just my two cents

[QUOTE="RuprechtMonkey"][QUOTE="Espada12"][QUOTE="iron_zealot7531"]

seriously though, the game has to be finished to be leaked. They really need to push finished product to release faster if the want to cut down on piracy

either that or figure out how their product keeps getting leaked

Espada12

Products will always get leaked no matter what because they are given to retailers weeks before release. Employee's can easily leak them, take the FC2 thread for example on this page, jacboy got a retail copy early, he can easily put it on the net if he wants. What I'm saying is.. stopping your products from getting leaked is almost impossible.

THe console leakage will be hugely minimal, I think you'll find that in the sales numbers.

Please, save your breath. You're saying things that in 3 weeks will seem silly.

All 360 games can and have been pirated.. that isn't minimal. Just because these sites like IGN and GS refuse to track console piracy doesn't mean it's huge. I mean it was horribly rampant on the PS2 and Ps1, it's the same way on the PSP, nitty lost 1 billion dollars last year due to it, and now every major title that is on the 360 is getting leaked early.. yea minimal..

As long as it doesn't negatively impact overall sales numbers, it doesn't have the same effect. If a tiny, tiny fraction of people pirate a given product, it isn't even heavily debated - this is the state of piracy on consoles. Don't forget, Halo 2 leaked about a month before the retail date on the first XBox and that system was cracked far more heavily than the 360, the original XBox was made into a ROMbox. This is why PC game makers complain so much compared to those that make or made games for the consoles.

And, I will bump this thread come Oct 29th. What do you think you'll say in response to the major reviews that come out from now till then? This is my serious question to you, I've bookmarked this thread. Might as well bump it then, and I will.

[QUOTE="xkojimax"][QUOTE="Fawlcon_Pawnch"]

[QUOTE="xkojimax"]i have it already, about 28 hours in. i love the game, but i must admit i do like oblivion better. Fawlcon_Pawnch

Wow, they dont even bother to hide it these days huh?

'they' ? sorry that i don't enjoy spending hundreds of dollars on video games dude. i love not having to.

Perfectly reasonable, there should be more of you

Bitter fanboy of the series dissapointed its not like the first two games... boy do I expect a lot more of this.strudel420

Review isn't by them.

[QUOTE="strudel420"]Bitter fanboy of the series dissapointed its not like the first two games... boy do I expect a lot more of this.Espada12

Review isn't by them.

There is no review there, only a preview, and respond to what I said.

As long as it doesn't negatively impact overall sales numbers, it doesn't have the same effect. If a tiny, tiny fraction of people pirate a given product, it isn't even heavily debated - this is the state of piracy on consoles. Don't forget, Halo 2 leaked about a month before the retail date on the first XBox and that system was cracked far more heavily than the 360, the original XBox was made into a ROMbox. This is why PC game makers complain so much.

And, I will bump this thread come Oct 29th. What do you think you'll say in response to the major reviews the come out from now till then? This is my serious question to you, I've bookmarked this thread. Might as well bump it then.

RuprechtMonkey

What does that have to do with anything I'm talking about? If the major reviews say it sucks then ok, if they don't then ok. I play games and review them myself, I don't rely on others.

[QUOTE="RuprechtMonkey"][QUOTE="Espada12"][QUOTE="iron_zealot7531"]

seriously though, the game has to be finished to be leaked. They really need to push finished product to release faster if the want to cut down on piracy

either that or figure out how their product keeps getting leaked

Espada12

Products will always get leaked no matter what because they are given to retailers weeks before release. Employee's can easily leak them, take the FC2 thread for example on this page, jacboy got a retail copy early, he can easily put it on the net if he wants. What I'm saying is.. stopping your products from getting leaked is almost impossible.

THe console leakage will be hugely minimal, I think you'll find that in the sales numbers.

Please, save your breath. You're saying things that in 3 weeks will seem silly.

All 360 games can and have been pirated.. that isn't minimal. Just because these sites like IGN and GS refuse to track console piracy doesn't mean it's huge. I mean it was horribly rampant on the PS2 and Ps1, it's the same way on the PSP, nitty lost 1 billion dollars last year due to it, and now every major title that is on the 360 is getting leaked early.. yea minimal..

yeah, piracy on consoles is a problem that is only getting worse. It's been estimated that 1/5 console gamers either exclusively or primarily pirates the games they play.

Human garbage like xkojimax will continue to take their toll on the industry, but its nowhere near as bad as the PC

it's estimated that 9/10 pc gamers pirates games regularly, because it's simply much easier than pirating console games and PC gamers tend to be more tech savy to begin with

It's been estimated that 1/5 console gamers either exclusively or primarily pirates the games they playiron_zealot7531

Uh, what?

Where are you getting this from?

That is an absurd claim.