Fallout: NV Mega Wasteland Hype Thread-Gamespot-Consoles 7.5-PC 8.5

Fallout 3 had a story?

GeneralShowzer

] I really doubt they made a worse story than Fallout 3's. Seems impossible, really.

mo0ksi

"I'm looking for my father,Middle-aged guy,maybe you've seen him?"

Kandlegoat

I never understood what people see in these Fallout sequels. From a technical standpoint they're absolute garbage, and when you take into account what all you could do in Fallout 1-2, these newer installments are somewhat shallow by comparison.

IT IS YOUR DESTINY

skrat_01

Was that the line you got from the giant mutant near the end when you asked him to go enter the code for you? That was crap I wanted to smash my computer screen with my keyboard when that happened.

[QUOTE="shinrabanshou"]

Current rumor circulating around is that Bethesda is forcing sites to pull bad reviews...

lbjkurono23

[QUOTE="skrat_01"]

IT IS YOUR DESTINY

6matt6

Was that the line you got from the giant mutant near the end when you asked him to go enter the code for you? That was crap I wanted to smash my computer screen with my keyboard when that happened.

Seems a bit low to me, but maybe Kevin ran into a lot more bugs than I have. *goes back to playing the game*

Bigboi500

[QUOTE="lbjkurono23"][QUOTE="shinrabanshou"]

Current rumor circulating around is that Bethesda is forcing sites to pull bad reviews...

TheEroica

Obsidian stay AWAY from Chrono Trigger remake / sequel, kthxbye :P

Anyways on topic: I think I'll pick this game up once it's cheaper, besides too many good games to play atm: Kirby, Enslaved, Vanquish etc.

[QUOTE="TheEroica"][QUOTE="lbjkurono23"] That's a lame move.shinrabanshou

Lets not forget

http://www.reddit.com/tb/du9g2.compact

[QUOTE="shinrabanshou"]

[QUOTE="TheEroica"] Link? You can't claim that with no link. Sorry.Led_poison

Lets not forget

http://www.reddit.com/tb/du9g2.compact

I thought the old school fanboys said the having the original dev's was supposed to produce magic?tomarlyn

Once its patched itll be fine. Not surprising that Obsidian stumbles out of the gate.

Man. Alpha Protocol, New Vegas, NWN2, KOTOR2... I think Obsidian must not play their own games. It's amazing that their most noted flaws are always the glaring bugs in their games, and yet they still haven't taken the hint on it.

Man. Alpha Protocol, New Vegas, NWN2, KOTOR2... I think Obsidian must not play their own games. It's amazing that their most noted flaws are always the glaring bugs in their games, and yet they still haven't taken the hint on it.

Vaasman

People who have the game who do you agree with GS's review.Booo-Urns

People who have the game who do you agree with GS's review.Booo-Urns

I remember when Gamespot's scores were a cumulative average of graphics, replayability, sound, etc.... I'm curious as to how bugs alone can dock an AAA game 2-2.5 points... You obviously aren't reviewing the game, you're reviewing the bugs.

Obviously Bethesda is at fault for releasing an unfinished game but comon gamespot... Even you are reporting on the incoming patches but can't hold off the review? You've held off reviews for MMORPG's that were less complex, but you couldn't hold off on an RPG...

Unprofessional. I've seen reviews like this become more frequent over the past few years, you've lost credibility, Gamespot.

Sad.

I remember when Gamespot's scores were a cumulative average of graphics, replayability, sound, etc.... I'm curious as to how bugs alone can dock an AAA game 2-2.5 points... You obviously aren't reviewing the game, you're reviewing the bugs.

Obviously Bethesda is at fault for releasing an unfinished game but comon gamespot... Even you are reporting on the incoming patches but can't hold off the review? You've held off reviews for MMO's that were less complex but couldn't hold off on this one...

Unprofessional.

EdVader

What?

[QUOTE="shinrabanshou"]

[QUOTE="TheEroica"] Link? You can't claim that with no link. Sorry.Led_poison

Lets not forget

http://www.reddit.com/tb/du9g2.compact

Wow, what a bunch of punks. If they were so concerned about reviews, maybe they should have given Obsidian another 6 months to actually "finish" the damn game.

People who have the game who do you agree with GS's review.Booo-Urns

I can certainly see why Kevin docked the game, as game freezing, save erasing, quest glitch bugs can dampen the experience if bad enough. However, I am the kind of gamer who prefers to look at the game itself and can usually overlook bugs if the core experience is good enough. For me, the game itself here is pure gold, despite the few freeze issues that I have had. While certainly annoying, it has not taken away from my enjoyment of the game. It is also good to know that fixes for some of the issues are on the way, so hopefully I will not encounter anything game breaking or have any lost save issues as I continue to play.

[QUOTE="EdVader"]

I remember when Gamespot's scores were a cumulative average of graphics, replayability, sound, etc.... I'm curious as to how bugs alone can dock an AAA game 2-2.5 points... You obviously aren't reviewing the game, you're reviewing the bugs.

Obviously Bethesda is at fault for releasing an unfinished game but comon gamespot... Even you are reporting on the incoming patches but can't hold off the review? You've held off reviews for MMO's that were less complex but couldn't hold off on this one...

Unprofessional.

McStrongfast

What?

I remember when Gamespot's scores were a cumulative average of graphics, replayability, sound, etc.... I'm curious as to how bugs alone can dock an AAA game 2-2.5 points... You obviously aren't reviewing the game, you're reviewing the bugs.

Obviously Bethesda is at fault for releasing an unfinished game but comon gamespot... Even you are reporting on the incoming patches but can't hold off the review? You've held off reviews for MMORPG's that were less complex, but you couldn't hold off on an RPG...

Unprofessional. I've seen reviews like this become more frequent over the past few years, you've lost credibility, Gamespot.

Sad.

EdVader

Huh? Games don't start at 10 and get docked points. That issue has been addressed before by one of the mods.

The bugs do stand in the way majorely (especially the issue of freezing). Nonetheless the game is still fantastic.

My PC copy arrived a day early, but Steam is a massive dick and won't let me play it. As much as I love the service, it's really annoying that it won't let you play a game if you get it before release. Same thing happened to my friend with Mafia 2.

[QUOTE="EdVader"]

I remember when Gamespot's scores were a cumulative average of graphics, replayability, sound, etc.... I'm curious as to how bugs alone can dock an AAA game 2-2.5 points... You obviously aren't reviewing the game, you're reviewing the bugs.

Obviously Bethesda is at fault for releasing an unfinished game but comon gamespot... Even you are reporting on the incoming patches but can't hold off the review? You've held off reviews for MMORPG's that were less complex, but you couldn't hold off on an RPG...

Unprofessional. I've seen reviews like this become more frequent over the past few years, you've lost credibility, Gamespot.

Sad.

lundy86_4

Huh? Games don't start at 10 and get docked points. That issue has been addressed before by one of the mods.

The bugs do stand in the way majorely (especially the issue of freezing). Nonetheless the game is still fantastic.

No I'm not saying games start at 10. I'm saying that if the games are still reviewed by an average then FO:NV would have most likely gotten an 8.5-9.5 if it weren't for the bugs. So after assuming that, I'm wondering how bugs would ruin the average score and why the review couldn't wait.EdVader

Now I see what you're getting at. The review couldn't wait, I presume, because it was due and the readers wanted it, and the fact that patches are forthcoming, but in sporadic bursts (tackling different bugs at a time). The first is due Tuesday for 360 and PS3 (PC was released instantly). The bugs do majorely stand in the way of gameplay, and there is one major gamebreaking bug, which is continuous freezing (I haven't had one since I turned off auto-save).

Still, the score is only one part of the review. This game is majorely absorbing my time :P

[QUOTE="Led_poison"]

[QUOTE="shinrabanshou"]From gaf, and it's just a rumor, I'm not personally claiming anything.

RawDeal_basic

Lets not forget

http://www.reddit.com/tb/du9g2.compact

Wow, what a bunch of punks. If they were so concerned about reviews, maybe they should have given Obsidian another 6 months to actually "finish" the damn game.

[QUOTE="EdVader"]No I'm not saying games start at 10. I'm saying that if the games are still reviewed by an average then FO:NV would have most likely gotten an 8.5-9.5 if it weren't for the bugs. So after assuming that, I'm wondering how bugs would ruin the average score and why the review couldn't wait.lundy86_4

Now I see what you're getting at. The review couldn't wait, I presume, because it was due and the readers wanted it, and the fact that patches are forthcoming, but in sporadic bursts (tackling different bugs at a time). The first is due Tuesday for 360 and PS3 (PC was released instantly). The bugs do majorely stand in the way of gameplay, and there is one major gamebreaking bug, which is continuous freezing (I haven't had one since I turned off auto-save).

Still, the score is only one part of the review. This game is majorely absorbing my time :P

I'm glad you say that. It seems those of us not on the Gamespot staff enjoy the game. I know that they shouldn't wait on reviewing games and I'm sure some people were anxious to see it, but it still feels rushed. I've seen less complex games need much more time to be reviewed (Warhammer Online, took about 2 weeks)EdVader

It definately would have been nice to see a post-patch review. Especially since they seem to want to get this game running properly (presumably). It is a shame, but still, the game will likely remain a hit with gamers, and just be slightly underappreciated critically -- which I have no problem with :P

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="EdVader"]No I'm not saying games start at 10. I'm saying that if the games are still reviewed by an average then FO:NV would have most likely gotten an 8.5-9.5 if it weren't for the bugs. So after assuming that, I'm wondering how bugs would ruin the average score and why the review couldn't wait.EdVader

Now I see what you're getting at. The review couldn't wait, I presume, because it was due and the readers wanted it, and the fact that patches are forthcoming, but in sporadic bursts (tackling different bugs at a time). The first is due Tuesday for 360 and PS3 (PC was released instantly). The bugs do majorely stand in the way of gameplay, and there is one major gamebreaking bug, which is continuous freezing (I haven't had one since I turned off auto-save).

Still, the score is only one part of the review. This game is majorely absorbing my time :P

you do know a 7.5 = good, right?

from my experience with the 360 version, I've only encountered a couple of visual glitches(rubberband lady flying around goodsprings)

And the game froze on me two or three times. Other than that it's awesome. Definitely an 8.5 from what I've played so far.

[QUOTE="EdVader"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Now I see what you're getting at. The review couldn't wait, I presume, because it was due and the readers wanted it, and the fact that patches are forthcoming, but in sporadic bursts (tackling different bugs at a time). The first is due Tuesday for 360 and PS3 (PC was released instantly). The bugs do majorely stand in the way of gameplay, and there is one major gamebreaking bug, which is continuous freezing (I haven't had one since I turned off auto-save).

Still, the score is only one part of the review. This game is majorely absorbing my time :P

CaseyWegner

you do know a 7.5 = good, right?

Logic? On my SW?

Nah. :P

People who have the game who do you agree with GS's review.Booo-Urns

seems a little harsh and unjustified in my opinion(the story part I am ignoring since to me the story was fine)

from my experience with the 360 version, I've only encountered a couple of visual glitches(rubberband lady flying around goodsprings)

And the game froze on me two or three times. Other than that it's awesome. Definitely an 8.5 from what I've played so far.

Shinobishyguy

LOL, I encountered this once last night. I was going down the road on my way to Nipton and a corpse of a gang member that I had previously killed just started flopping around right after I passed it. I could have sworn I was being attacked, only to turn around and see a headless corpse flopping around, slamming up and down on the ground while making a sound like metal being dropped. Hey, maybe it is the 'Wild Wasteland' perk kicking in, lol. Seriously, bugs like that are just amusing to me. I simply observe, laugh and move on.

[QUOTE="Booo-Urns"]People who have the game who do you agree with GS's review.fueled-system

seems a little harsh and unjustified in my opinion(the story part I am ignoring since to me the story was fine)

a game does not start at 10 and have points knocked off. :|

I don't have the game but from what I've seen this game deserves more then 7.5, just because theres some glitches doesn't mean it deserves that low of a score. Can't believe they gave vanquish a higher score then fallout, vanquish looks like a 5.0 game.

[QUOTE="fueled-system"]

[QUOTE="Booo-Urns"]People who have the game who do you agree with GS's review.CaseyWegner

seems a little harsh and unjustified in my opinion(the story part I am ignoring since to me the story was fine)

a game does not start at 10 and have points knocked off. :|

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="fueled-system"]I agree with the complaint but really knocking off 2.5 points for small glitches

seems a little harsh and unjustified in my opinion(the story part I am ignoring since to me the story was fine)

fueled-system

a game does not start at 10 and have points knocked off. :|

it's not the only issue.

I often find myself saying "they docked points", but it is just as a manner of speaking. I know that scores don't start at 10, but if a game has issues, it is still docked by virtue of not getting points that could be added. That is all I mean when I refer to a game getting docked.

I get a 404 error when I try to get to the review :/

Indeed, the review seems to have been taken down. Bethesda brought down the wrath because they paid for ads, lol? Seriously, maybe they are going to re-review it after it gets patched?

I get the same error when I click on the news article about the patches arriving. Hmm.