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#951 ironcreed
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While I clearly think this game is better than a 7.5, I still say that a re-review would be completely unfair to many other titles that perhaps were not marketed and advertised as heavily. Anyway, maybe it is just a site error of some sort. I guess we will see eventually.

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#952 fueled-system
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their whole fallout section is down I sure hope its not another jeff type case

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#953 sikanderahmed
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lol flop am confirmed. damn so many massive flops this year

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#954 Animal-Mother
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Kane and Lynch 2010 Redux.


Someone is gonna have to keep their secret in vegas. COMPLY OR DIE

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#955 coreybg
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I got a bit of a problem. I'm at Sloan and omw to New Vegas, but there are some Deathclaws I gotta kill. Problem is...I can't =\

Any tips on how to kill them? My strongest weapon is incinerator and 9mm submachine gun.

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#956 Star67
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their whole fallout section is down I sure hope its not another jeff type case

fueled-system

this might be the case. Or they will do a re-review after patches. But that isnt fair to other games.

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#957 Animal-Mother
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I got a bit of a problem. I'm at Sloan and omw to New Vegas, but there are some Deathclaws I gotta kill. Problem is...I can't =\

Any tips on how to kill them? My strongest weapon is incinerator and 9mm submachine gun.

coreybg
Run. Thats all you can really do. Because a SMG and an incinerator are crap against them
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#958 tagyhag
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Is Gamespot bending over again?
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#959 fueled-system
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[QUOTE="fueled-system"]

their whole fallout section is down I sure hope its not another jeff type case

Star67

this might be the case. Or they will do a re-review after patches. But that isnt fair to other games.

they rereview games all the time though but still I do agree it is unfair if kevin is not ready to release the review he should of waited

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#960 aaronmullan
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Is Gamespot bending over again?tagyhag
Yep. Free of charge this time :P
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#961 BZSIN
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[QUOTE="tagyhag"]Is Gamespot bending over again?aaronmullan
Yep. Free of charge this time :P

When Bethesda says "bend over," GameSpot says "at what angle?"

*Ahem*

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#962 millerlight89
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I do not agree with the score, well I am playing the PC version. Anyways, if they really are bending over and taking the reviews back, they need to do the same for FF14. Not that I care, but if they are going to do it for a single player RPG, they should do it for the MMO. Though, I don't think they should be doing this crap with either.
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#963 BigBoss154
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The whole site was going crazy slow. Anyone get that?

Also they've pulled the headline on the main page saying patches are being released.

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#964 Zune_HD
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Once you get a companion the games is basically put on cruise control. It makes it a lot easier.

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#965 carlisledavid79
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Ah so that's why the forum crashed. Anywa a 7.5 is still a good score. I'll make my own judgement when I get the game tomorrow.
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#966 millerlight89
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Once you get a companion the games is basically put on cruise control. It makes it a lot easier.

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Do you have to get one? I am enjoying the difficulty :).
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#967 BZSIN
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The whole site was going crazy slow. Anyone get that?

Also they've pulled the headline on the main page saying patches are being released.

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Still showing on the UK side

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#968 Zune_HD
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[QUOTE="Zune_HD"]

Once you get a companion the games is basically put on cruise control. It makes it a lot easier.

millerlight89
Do you have to get one? I am enjoying the difficulty :).

If you want a achievement/trophy you need one. :P
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#969 BigBoss154
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[QUOTE="BigBoss154"]

The whole site was going crazy slow. Anyone get that?

Also they've pulled the headline on the main page saying patches are being released.

BZSIN

Still showing on the UK side

I am on the UK side.

Try clicking on it. It comes up with a 404.

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#970 BZSIN
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I am on the UK side.

Try clicking on it. It comes up with a 404.

BigBoss154

Ohhhh. I already mentioned that a few posts ago, so I assumed you meant they took the link down. Oops.

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#971 hd5870corei7
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Fallout 3 deserved even less of a score. Never played Fallout 1 & 2, but the third and fourth were completely dull compared to TES games.

Glad they didn't ignore the bugs just because its a hyped game. *Cough* Mass Effect *cough*

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#972 Animal-Mother
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Fallout 3 deserved even less of a score. Never played Fallout 1 & 2, but the third and fourth were completely dull compared to TES games.

Glad they didn't ignore the bugs just because its a hyped game. *Cough* Mass Effect *cough*

hd5870corei7
Why did, you even play new vegas?
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#973 millerlight89
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="Zune_HD"]

Once you get a companion the games is basically put on cruise control. It makes it a lot easier.

Zune_HD
Do you have to get one? I am enjoying the difficulty :).

If you want a achievement/trophy you need one. :P

Ewww, no thanks :P. Not an achievement hunter :P. I could always save right before it though.
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#974 mbrockway
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I disagree with the GS score. I'm pretty sure I'm close to the end now, and I've hit alot less bugs than I did in Fallout 3. F3 crashed on me all the time. Vegas just feels alot more like an rpg than 3. And I haven't hit a single goddawful sewer maze yet. God I hated DC in 3.

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#975 ironcreed
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I disagree with the GS score. I'm pretty sure I'm close to the end now, and I've hit alot less bugs than I did in Fallout 3. F3 crashed on me all the time. Vegas just feels alot more like an rpg than 3. And I haven't hit a single goddawful sewer maze yet. God I hated DC in 3.

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Good to hear. Oh, and you just reminded me of something. No subways in New Vegas... thank god.

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#976 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="Vinegar_Strokes"]

So Vanquish>>>>>Fallout 3:NV. i guess the Vanquish haters are feeling pretty silly about now

Bigboi500

I'd have to strongly disagree with you there. Been playing both games and while Vanquish certainly is fun, it's not very deep.

It all comes down to personal preference no doubt, but the amount of content and depth just really makes the games uncomparable.

Fallout: New Vegas is the kind of game you can really sink your teeth in to and enjoy for long periods of time and get lost in it, where Vanquish is great for short periods of time.I'd say playing Vanquish is like a roller coaster ride, it's thrilling and upbeat for a few moments but is over in the blink of an eye. Playing Fallout: New Vegas is like spending a whole week at your favorite vacation spot.



1- If anything the genre differences make them uncomparable

2- The genre must be really taking some massive steps back if Fallout 3 and New Vegas actually pass for having some depth by RPG standards.

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#977 TacticalDesire
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[QUOTE="hd5870corei7"]

Fallout 3 deserved even less of a score. Never played Fallout 1 & 2, but the third and fourth were completely dull compared to TES games.

Glad they didn't ignore the bugs just because its a hyped game. *Cough* Mass Effect *cough*

Animal-Mother

Why did, you even play new vegas?

If its not MGS or Uncharted he doesn't care.

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#978 Ilikemyname420
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Funny how they complain about technical issues in the game on the front page, then you click the review and it's a 404 error......look who's talking.

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#979 BigBoss154
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Funny how they complain about technical issues in the game on the front page, then you click the review and it's a 404 error......look who's talking.

Ilikemyname420

That's not a tech issue. I think they're re-reviewing the game with the new patches.

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#980 cobrax25
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[QUOTE="Ilikemyname420"]

Funny how they complain about technical issues in the game on the front page, then you click the review and it's a 404 error......look who's talking.

BigBoss154

That's not a tech issue. I think they're re-reviewing the game with the new patches.

Their not, every page has an error now.

And they only reviewed the console versions, which havent even been patched yet.

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#981 Ravensmash
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[QUOTE="Ilikemyname420"]

Funny how they complain about technical issues in the game on the front page, then you click the review and it's a 404 error......look who's talking.

BigBoss154

That's not a tech issue. I think they're re-reviewing the game with the new patches.

All versions? Good :D
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#982 StealthedRogue
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7.5 huh?

I'm enjoying it and the bugs arent horrific, its only froze up twice in the many hours I've played.

I'd probably rate it 8.0 to 8.5.

Now if you'll excuse me I have 250 T-rex toys to drop in someones home.

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#983 Giancar
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Lol wut a technical mess getting a re review? a free pass? come on :|
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#984 Skittles_McGee
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Just got my first game-crashing bug. Hella annoying too since autosave doesn't work. The DLL thing for the NPC slowdown works though, thats relieving. Game's still buggy though.
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#985 Ravensmash
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[QUOTE="Giancar"]Lol wut a technical mess getting a re review? a free pass? come on :|

I feel sorry for people who can't access the patches. Although I guess anyone with ability to go on Gamespot and own the game will...
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#986 Bigboi500
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I got a bit of a problem. I'm at Sloan and omw to New Vegas, but there are some Deathclaws I gotta kill. Problem is...I can't =\

Any tips on how to kill them? My strongest weapon is incinerator and 9mm submachine gun.

coreybg

Yeah, level up, get stronger, then come back later.

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Problem with this is they give 5 minute fun games better scores than games with supreme ambition and scale.

I question the integrity of the reviewer and the process. The game deserves better than it got.

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#988 carlisledavid79
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If they're going to re-rewiew this, then they're going to have an awfull backlog to re-review.
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#989 Chemical_Viking
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If they're going to re-rewiew this, then they're going to have an awfull backlog to re-review.carlisledavid79

They can start with the lamentable Final Fantasy XIII.

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#990 Zero5000X
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So when a patch comes out the review is automatically invalid as the problems will no longer exist? Seems like a re-review would be necessary or they should just take their review down as it would not longer be valid or make sense.
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Problem with this is they give 5 minute fun games better scores than games with supreme ambition and scale.

I question the integrity of the reviewer and the process. The game deserves better than it got.

Chemical_Viking

are you referring to downloadable arcade games that are scored differently from standard retail games?

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#992 fueled-system
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[QUOTE="Chemical_Viking"]

Problem with this is they give 5 minute fun games better scores than games with supreme ambition and scale.

I question the integrity of the reviewer and the process. The game deserves better than it got.

CaseyWegner

are you referring to downloadable arcade games that are scored differently from standard retail games?

I think hes referring to vanquish which can be beaten in 4-6 hours and got a 9 here.

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#993 Chemical_Viking
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[QUOTE="Chemical_Viking"]

Problem with this is they give 5 minute fun games better scores than games with supreme ambition and scale.

I question the integrity of the reviewer and the process. The game deserves better than it got.

CaseyWegner

are you referring to downloadable arcade games that are scored differently from standard retail games?

Not entirely no, but as you've brought it up, that fact is never made clear.

Let's be clear here. Most of the criticisms aimed at FO NV are based on bugs. I can understand criticism based on this as games companies should not release unfinished products but today these things are often ironed out after the game was released.

Civilization V had more bugs than any game I've played in years. I got three quarters of the game through and found a bug that crashed it as soon as I took a move. All that effort was down the drain and I had to start again. But that review was much more positive because, as expected, there is a patch on the way fixing issues like these.

You gave a better score to wii party and vanquish. And the one thing that came across loudly in the review was bugs, which are in time going to be fixed across all platforms.

You also gave those games a better score than the recent Castlevania, a game I found far more satisfying than even God of War. There seems to be a big difference between your reviews and the common perception lately and this is not the first divergence.

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#994 BigBoss154
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Looks like the reviews are back up. I guess it hasn't been re-reviewed, then.

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http://www.newvegasnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=34778 Here is the npc fix.
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#996 lbjkurono23
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[QUOTE="Giancar"]Lol wut a technical mess getting a re review? a free pass? come on :|

It's all about the $$$ :P
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#997 lbjkurono23
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If they're going to re-rewiew this, then they're going to have an awfull backlog to re-review.carlisledavid79
Kinda unfair for the other games that got patched up.
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#998 Ilikemyname420
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Not entirely no, but as you've brought it up, that fact is never made clear.

Let's be clear here. Most of the criticisms aimed at FO NV are based on bugs. I can understand criticism based on this as games companies should not release unfinished products but today these things are often ironed out after the game was released.

Civilization V had more bugs than any game I've played in years. I got three quarters of the game through and found a bug that crashed it as soon as I took a move. All that effort was down the drain and I had to start again. But that review was much more positive because, as expected, there is a patch on the way fixing issues like these. Chemical_Viking

I never really got why some games get lambasted for bugs in the review yet others that are even buggier seem to get a free pass and there is only passing mention of them in the review.

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ok so i finally got around to picking up my copy of fonv and have had very little trouble so far.

some stuttery framerates and the gun not following me down right away in crouch has been it so far.

i see the complaints that people have with it being like a giant expansion pack and i don't really have a problem with that either. i have paid $20 for expansion packs so $60 for a giant one is not a big deal to me.

other than that what can you say? it's a big slow paced semi-action rpg shooter game that does everything kind of half assed and clunky.

y'know exactly like F3 was.

i'm liking it just like i did the last one, even if it had no bugs i would not score it past a 8 or maybe if i was generous an 8.5.

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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="Chemical_Viking"]

Problem with this is they give 5 minute fun games better scores than games with supreme ambition and scale.

I question the integrity of the reviewer and the process. The game deserves better than it got.

Chemical_Viking

are you referring to downloadable arcade games that are scored differently from standard retail games?

Not entirely no, but as you've brought it up, that fact is never made clear.

Let's be clear here. Most of the criticisms aimed at FO NV are based on bugs. I can understand criticism based on this as games companies should not release unfinished products but today these things are often ironed out after the game was released.

Civilization V had more bugs than any game I've played in years. I got three quarters of the game through and found a bug that crashed it as soon as I took a move. All that effort was down the drain and I had to start again. But that review was much more positive because, as expected, there is a patch on the way fixing issues like these.

You gave a better score to wii party and vanquish. And the one thing that came across loudly in the review was bugs, which are in time going to be fixed across all platforms.

You also gave those games a better score than the recent Castlevania, a game I found far more satisfying than even God of War. There seems to be a big difference between your reviews and the common perception lately and this is not the first divergence.

Casey Wegner is just a mod. He has nothing to do with the review process here.