First petition for pc port of Dark Souls...and now...

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#1 ispeakfact
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Another friggin petition to not use GWL. LoL! Oh you herms. No wonder the gaming industry hates dealing with you. http://www.gamespot.com/news/gamers-rallying-against-dark-souls-pc-using-games-for-windows-live-6371507
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#2 freedomfreak
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This will end well.

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#3 meetroid8
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Another friggin petition to not use GWL. LoL! Oh you herms. No wonder the gaming industry hates dealing with you. http://www.gamespot.com/news/gamers-rallying-against-dark-souls-pc-using-games-for-windows-live-6371507ispeakfact

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#4 lundy86_4
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The gaming industry doesn't hate dealing with them. Hence why they have far more exclusives than the PS3. Devs hate PS3 am confirmed!

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#5 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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Still sore?

Oh and before you post one I will indulge

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#6 waltefmoney
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Hermits are such beggars.

"LMAO simplistic console games for kids, can I have them?"

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#7 tagyhag
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Eh it could be worse, they could be dishing out death threats like the PS3 fanboys do.

I'm sure Namco has their reason for using GFWL though, I'm not going to pretend to know more about it like these petitioners.

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#8 Ravensmash
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i see it as pretty pathetic. You petition for a game, then when you get it - you petition the DD method. I'm not sure why certain gamers believe that Steam is the only thing out there. They are not a first party, they are simply a (very good) distribution service. I've used GFWL and had no issues, or none that I haven't encountered with Steam (which is far from perfect as good as it is)....
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They have to fight the system maaan, its what makes them homebrew and cool.
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#10 Grawse
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Yeah some PC gamers are such babies. I've only had one problem with GFWL and it was just getting Lost Planet 2 started, never had a problem after that. I'm just happy to get it, console version looks like ass.
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#11 BPoole96
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Nothing will ever change if nobody never says anything. Better than the console gamer approach of bending over and opening their wallets when companies do things they don't like
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#12 NeonNinja
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I'm not buying it if it uses GFWL, so... signed it. Hopefully they change their mind.

An alternative would also include just sticking the damn thing on GoG and letting me have it DRM-free, but if they settled on GFWL, then Steam is a huge step up.

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Nothing will ever change if nobody never says anything. Better than the console gamer approach of bending over and opening their wallets when companies do things they don't likeBPoole96
Hopefully they don't change it. If people don't purchase the title over something as insignificant as a DD method then I presume they weren't actually interested in the title to begin with.
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#14 Ravensmash
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I'm not buying it if it uses GFWL, so... signed it. Hopefully they change their mind.

An alternative would also include just sticking the damn thing on GoG and letting me have it DRM-free, but if they settled on GFWL, then Steam is a huge step up.

NeonNinja
What's your issue with GFWL? You either want to play a video game or you don't - people are making it sound like the DD method is important ;)
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#15 NEWMAHAY
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[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

I'm not buying it if it uses GFWL, so... signed it. Hopefully they change their mind.

An alternative would also include just sticking the damn thing on GoG and letting me have it DRM-free, but if they settled on GFWL, then Steam is a huge step up.

Ravensmash
What's your issue with GFWL? You either want to play a video game or you don't - people are making it sound like the DD method is important ;)

the servers that the game is hosted
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[QUOTE="BPoole96"]Nothing will ever change if nobody never says anything. Better than the console gamer approach of bending over and opening their wallets when companies do things they don't likeRavensmash
Hopefully they don't change it. If people don't purchase the title over something as insignificant as a DD method then I presume they weren't actually interested in the title to begin with.

I'm not pleased with GFWL but I'll buy the game anyway. I think them using GFWL is just asking for people to pirate t though since pc gamers hate GFWL
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#17 PC360Wii
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I Dont care about GFWL nothing wrong with it. its not like you even need to login to it properly, or pay for it. I agree completely with you, these kinda PC gamers are just useless.
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#18 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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lol pretty sad. This is first world problems of the highest order.

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#19 AcidSoldner
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This is pathetic. Namco Bandai was finally kind enough to port it over to the PC after a huge petition movement and now hermits want even more? It's never good enough for PC gamers. Not to mention there's an entirely logical reasoning behind having it on GFWL. Dark Souls was designed and programed with PSN and XBL in mind and since XBL and GFWL have nearly the same exact infrastructure, From Software and NB wouldn't have to spend additional funds and resources to completely rewrite the netcode for Steam.
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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

I'm not buying it if it uses GFWL, so... signed it. Hopefully they change their mind.

An alternative would also include just sticking the damn thing on GoG and letting me have it DRM-free, but if they settled on GFWL, then Steam is a huge step up.

NEWMAHAY

What's your issue with GFWL? You either want to play a video game or you don't - people are making it sound like the DD method is important ;)

the servers that the game is hosted

And has been said in prior threads - what if GFWL was the logical step due it's closeness to Xbox Live and the games online component. Why the **** should the devs waste time sorting netcode out when a system is already technically in place - because of a few disgruntled gamers moaning about it not being on Steam?

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[QUOTE="BPoole96"]Nothing will ever change if nobody never says anything. Better than the console gamer approach of bending over and opening their wallets when companies do things they don't likeRavensmash
Hopefully they don't change it. If people don't purchase the title over something as insignificant as a DD method then I presume they weren't actually interested in the title to begin with.

Well im just keeping my word. When i said "i want this game to come to PC" i also had "But i will only buy it if its a proper port and aslong as it dont use GFWL" GFWL is a deal breaker for me the times i have used it... The problems... They send shivers down my spine... How can someone code something this badly?
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#22 Jankarcop
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This is pathetic. Namco Bandai was finally kind enough to port it over to the PC after a huge petition movement and now hermits want even more? It's never good enough for PC gamers. Not to mention there's an entirely logical reasoning behind having it on GFWL. Dark Souls was designed and programed with PSN and XBL in mind and since XBL and GFWL have nearly the same exact infrastructure, From Software and NB wouldn't have to spend additional funds and resources to completely rewrite the netcode for Steam.AcidSoldner

GFWL sucks, it will result in a loss of sales.

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#23 Ravensmash
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[QUOTE="AcidSoldner"]This is pathetic. Namco Bandai was finally kind enough to port it over to the PC after a huge petition movement and now hermits want even more? It's never good enough for PC gamers. Not to mention there's an entirely logical reasoning behind having it on GFWL. Dark Souls was designed and programed with PSN and XBL in mind and since XBL and GFWL have nearly the same exact infrastructure, From Software and NB wouldn't have to spend additional funds and resources to completely rewrite the netcode for Steam.

Are you f*cking crazy? They should definitely spend extra time and resources on moving it to a different store because ....they're entitled damn it! It makes me think of the saying: "Having your cake and eating it", but being disgruntled about the shape of the plate it's come in.
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#24 NEWMAHAY
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[QUOTE="NEWMAHAY"][QUOTE="Ravensmash"] What's your issue with GFWL? You either want to play a video game or you don't - people are making it sound like the DD method is important ;)Ravensmash

the servers that the game is hosted

And has been said in prior threads - what if GFWL was the logical step due it's closeness to Xbox Live and the games online component. Why the **** should the devs waste time sorting netcode out when a system is already technically in place - because of a few disgruntled gamers moaning about it not being on Steam?

I am not really complaining. I am just stating the issue I have against GFWL. I don't plan on not buying it because its on it.
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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="BPoole96"]Nothing will ever change if nobody never says anything. Better than the console gamer approach of bending over and opening their wallets when companies do things they don't likeKalDurenik
Hopefully they don't change it. If people don't purchase the title over something as insignificant as a DD method then I presume they weren't actually interested in the title to begin with.

Well im just keeping my word. When i said "i want this game to come to PC" i also had "But i will only buy it if its a proper port and aslong as it dont use GFWL" GFWL is a deal breaker for me the times i have used it... The problems... They send shivers down my spine... How can someone code something this badly?

I've never had significant problems with it - and by significant I mean nothing that I haven't had on Steam, etc.
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#26 waltefmoney
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Will the PC version have dedicated servers?

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#27 lawlessx
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lol@ console fanboys..if you knew just how bad GFWL was for PC gamers you would understand exactly why it's hated.
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#28 Rocker6
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Personally I dislike both Steamworks and GFWL,but I still signed the petition since Steamworks is the lesser of two evils here IMO...

But still,whatever DRM of these two they use,I'm buying the game,can't wait for August :)

We've been petitioning for a long time to get this port,would be a shame to throw all that away now...

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#29 RR360DD
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I hope Namco change their minds now and cancel the PC version. Would be hilarious, and well deserved.
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At least we don't create petitions to KEEP GAMES EXCLUSIVE, like you cows. So what if they want to play a game on steam? I think it's great they do that. Cows created petitions to keep FFXIII exclusive to PS3, when the franchise was never SONY only. Cows also boycotted Capcom for Making Devil May Cry a multiplat... A MULTIPLAT! Cows were still getting these games in both situations, but it wasn't enough. They wanted to act like spoiled whittle babies and not share. This is why cows are looked down on.

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#31 Ravensmash
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lol@ console fanboys..if you knew just how bad GFWL was for PC gamers you would understand exactly why it's hated. lawlessx
Problem on your end clearly, I've had nothing significantly wrong with it in my usage. But then, it's a video game - if you don't want it, don't buy it...don't have a tantrum about some sort of entitlement over it not appearing on your favourite service. You're a PC gamer, you shouldn't expect some sort of inflated first party propping you along with every developer catering to it. I'm sure they have their reasoning.
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#32 lawlessx
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At least we don't create petitions to KEEP GAMES EXCLUSIVE, like you cows. So what if they want to play a game? I think it's great they do that. Cows created petitions to keep FFXIII exclusive to PS3, when the franchise was never SONY only. Cows also boycotted Capcom for Making Devil May Cry a multiplat... A MULTIPLAT! Cows were still getting these games in both situations, but it wasn't enough. They wanted to act like spoiled whittle babies and not share. This is why cows are looked down on.

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The final fantasy 13 petition threads were hilarious. tons and tons of ps3 fanboys getting worked up saying they felt "left out" in a way.
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#33 Microsoft1234
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GFWL? damn that sucks
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#34 millerlight89
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Just like console gamers, there are PC gamers whom are babies as well. I don't have an issue with this.
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#35 rilpas
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for the first time ever I agree with the TC I wouldn't be surprised if Namco-Bandai refused to ever listen to one of these petitions sure I prefer STEAM, but I'm not crying over it being GFWL
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#36 waltefmoney
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I've used GFWL for a bunch of games and had no issues.

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#37 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="rilpas"]for the first time ever I agree with the TC I wouldn't be surprised if Namco-Bandai refused to ever listen to one of these petitions sure I prefer STEAM, but I'm not crying over it being GFWL

and like others have been saying..some people have been having problems with GFWL and it causes serious headaches. For example..I CAN'T GET ONLINE with my account. No matter what i do i can't log into my XBL account so i can't play any muitplayer games. If you aren't having any issues that's good for you,but people are acting like the problems don't exist
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[QUOTE="DireOwl"]

At least we don't create petitions to KEEP GAMES EXCLUSIVE, like you cows. So what if they want to play a game? I think it's great they do that. Cows created petitions to keep FFXIII exclusive to PS3, when the franchise was never SONY only. Cows also boycotted Capcom for Making Devil May Cry a multiplat... A MULTIPLAT! Cows were still getting these games in both situations, but it wasn't enough. They wanted to act like spoiled whittle babies and not share. This is why cows are looked down on.

lawlessx

The final fantasy 13 petition threads were hilarious. tons and tons of ps3 fanboys getting worked up saying they felt "left out" in a way.

It was actually amazing, they acted almost like a cult. A large group of people, literally making up nonsensical reasons to keep a video game on one piece of plastic.

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Sad there are so many spoiled and feel like they are entitled to everything

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#40 NeonNinja
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[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

I'm not buying it if it uses GFWL, so... signed it. Hopefully they change their mind.

An alternative would also include just sticking the damn thing on GoG and letting me have it DRM-free, but if they settled on GFWL, then Steam is a huge step up.

Ravensmash

What's your issue with GFWL? You either want to play a video game or you don't - people are making it sound like the DD method is important ;)

I don't like it, so I don't use it. Simple as that. No crying from me. If it comes with GFWL I just don't buy it. If it requires Origin, I just don't buy it. If it requires a DRM method I generally avoid it, the exception being Steam since I've taken to buying games digitally off of them, so I don't mind being tied to a service if I buy digitally. Though GoG is slowly providing an alternative to even Steam, they just don't have the newer games yet, nor do they have the sweet discounts, but they'll get there in due time.

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#41 The_Capitalist
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My main gripe about GFWL is that save files between different accounts can't be swapped. Plus, the user interface is pretty terrible.

Dunno if I will pick this one up or not, but all signs are pointing to a cheap console port.

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#42 lundy86_4
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You could ask for a Black Ops refund on the PS3... Oh, wait!

You could petition for FFXIII to remain PS3 exclusive... Damn!

Petitions are petitions. People have a right to put forth complaint. They vary in how "lol WTF?" they are though.

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#43 Ravensmash
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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

I'm not buying it if it uses GFWL, so... signed it. Hopefully they change their mind.

An alternative would also include just sticking the damn thing on GoG and letting me have it DRM-free, but if they settled on GFWL, then Steam is a huge step up.

NeonNinja

What's your issue with GFWL? You either want to play a video game or you don't - people are making it sound like the DD method is important ;)

I don't like it, so I don't use it. Simple as that. No crying from me. If it comes with GFWL I just don't buy it. If it requires Origin, I just don't buy it. If it requires a DRM method I generally avoid it, the exception being Steam since I've taken to buying games digitally off of them, so I don't mind being tied to a service if I buy digitally. Though GoG is slowly providing an alternative to even Steam, they just don't have the newer games yet, nor do they have the sweet discounts, but they'll get there in due time.

Hmm, I'd suggest you buy a console - that way you can be assured the DD/DRM method is static. Want freedom in games, despise the same for developers/publishers too it seems!
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#44 NeonNinja
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[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"] What's your issue with GFWL? You either want to play a video game or you don't - people are making it sound like the DD method is important ;)Ravensmash

I don't like it, so I don't use it. Simple as that. No crying from me. If it comes with GFWL I just don't buy it. If it requires Origin, I just don't buy it. If it requires a DRM method I generally avoid it, the exception being Steam since I've taken to buying games digitally off of them, so I don't mind being tied to a service if I buy digitally. Though GoG is slowly providing an alternative to even Steam, they just don't have the newer games yet, nor do they have the sweet discounts, but they'll get there in due time.

Hmm, I'd suggest you buy a console - that way you can be assured the DD/DRM method is static. Want freedom in games, despise the same for developers/publishers too it seems!

I do have consoles. I prefer PC.

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#45 Master_ShakeXXX
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How embarrassing. You give the nerdy little bastards what they want and they still b*tch and complain.

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#46 dommeus
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Im glad it's on PC (I signed the petition), but this is taking it too far. People threatening to boycott the game because of this? Christ just shut the f*ck up...

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#47 mysticstryk
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Another friggin petition to not use GWL. LoL! Oh you herms. No wonder the gaming industry hates dealing with you. http://www.gamespot.com/news/gamers-rallying-against-dark-souls-pc-using-games-for-windows-live-6371507ispeakfact

PC gamers do not like to use silly xbox live integration. They could not care less about it, it just gets in the way.

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#48 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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How embarrassing. You give the nerdy little bastards what they want and they still b*tch and complain.

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#49 IAmNot_fun
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I'm not gonna sign a petition for using GFWL, but I'm certainly not getting it. GFWL is so bad that I actually prefer Origin.
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#50 vtoshkatur
Member since 2011 • 1962 Posts

I just wanted to make a thread to praise my lord and savior vtoshkatur. I was wrong about everything, The smashing Pumpkins are awesome! And now my all time favorite band, Thanks for showing me the light vtosh. May the ground shake where you walkispeakfact

Thanks for the high praise friend!