Forza 6 weather/night simulation is incredible

After spending a good chunk of tonight playing this game I have to say that nothing compares to this, while the weather in Driveclub can be more visually impressive, the way it handles is anything but. Turn 10 actually put in the man hours to configure the physics for all of this including visiting the tracks in the rain and laser scanning the elevations to gauge water accumulation, every aspect of it feels and behaves like a real car would with rain.

When you lose traction there is a real sense of panic and knowing that you're going into that wall 100 yards away and there's not a damn thing you can do to stop it, I've actually started cringing like I'm bracing for a real crash. The way the puddles drag your tires and manipulate your steering, it feels so authentic that you lose yourself in the mechanics of it, it just sucks you in.

The night races are not as impressive as the weather but it completely changes the dynamics of racing in this game, you're so used to one thing that turning off the lights completely alters the experience and I'm loving it.

This is the definitive console racing simulation, and honestly I'd say it will give the best PC simulations a run for their money, this is impressive stuff and I hope all of you get to check it out.

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DC gifs incoming

Driveclub isn't really a sim in the first place is it?

Sure is.

Absolutely abysmal representation of what both of these games actually look like on a TV while being played, horrible.

^ fucking lol

Lmao.... Forza looks like a mobile platform racer in that .gif

Kinda does, now that you mention it. Then again, we know the Ps4 is the more powerful product. This comparison is more proof of that.

Driveclub got Forza looking like a GameCube game.

For someone who usually cries about proof and ignorance....this thread just got demolished.

DC looks good, but it plays like a piece of shit.

Good thing I got it for free.

Are they ever making DC2?

@freedomfreak: "gif"

Just "Incredible"...

Yeah, posting literally the most lossy and compressed 'video' format imaginable and he's expecting to be taken seriously.

I doubt many of these people even own either of these games when I have both...

Both are racers. One runs on Ps4, and the other one runs on the Xbox One. The Xbox One is the weaker console. It's no surprise. At least the Xbox One got another exclusive. The last one it got was Sunset Overdrive. A game that ran at 900P.

@nyadc:

I found it quite funny to be honest.

You should post something to combat it though if it's indeed a poor representation.

I have a capture card i could make use of, something I very much doubt these people do, their expertise seem to be pulling 3rd party gif's from 3rd party youtube videos.

@nyadc: You came at me demanding that I prove I own a gaming PC and got all mad when I wouldn't.

Yet...you have not posted one pic or one video of your own to prove your case.

This, there's nothing much can be said.

@freedomfreak: Try to comprehend his post, and then come back. You are completely missing his point

Blog it m8.

@nyadc said:

@freedomfreak said:

Sure is.

Absolutely abysmal representation of what both of these games actually look like on a TV while being played, horrible.

Like I said this is an abysmal representation, it's a fucking gif, even mine is bad, it's stuttering, it's desynced, it's a compressed to hell recording, compressed again via YouTube and at 720p which is all my capture card is capable of. Even then, with all of those things considered, it still looks great, and that is what bothers me to no end about you people on the Internet. You have zero, absolutely zero experience with the content of which you speak, yet you try to form some kind of informed view on it based upon this stupid shit...

I've got all of this right in front of me, it looks and plays fantastic, and then I have people like you telling me I need to get my eyes checked or that it looks last gen? For Driveclub to operate at the framerate Forza 6 does it would have to be running at 960x540, yeah, 540p, and you're going to attack the way Forza 6 looks?

Get out of town, people like you and the shit you come up with are an unfunny and never ending joke. The amount of deception, misinformation and lack of experience trying to bash, mislead and deter people away from something that you know absolutely nothing about and have never actually seen with your own two eyes is deplorable. Not only that, this thread isn't even about that, it's about the way the weather functions on a mechanical level, that of which there is no contest.

You're gonna love it man, above and beyond my expectations.

The word is just polish man, they know how to polish every facet of the game, music, gameplay, visuals, performance, menus, everything, they're very good at their craft.

1. It's not like he posted a high res uncompressed download link to a video of Driveclub and a shitty gif of Forza 6. They're both in the same gif, taking the same visual hits. That's pretty fair tbh.

2. Owning either game or both doesn't have any relevance to this discussion, not sure what you're on about.

3. Now that you've posted your video, and compared to the Driveclub videos I've seen, it seems the gif was an accurate comparison.

4. Forza 6 is probably a much better game and it's running at twice the frame rate is it not? Why does Driveclub having the clear advantage in visuals even matter? This would be like getting upset because a shit show like Shadowfall has better graphics than Halo 5.

5. I don't like ruining Freedoms fun, but come on bro. He's leading you around on a leash and making you eat out of his hand.

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I know things like credibility and impartial thinking aren't your strong suits on this board, but damn man, try to salvage some of it.

Also.

Wtf does this have to do with anything man?

Oh look, it's a guy playing devil's advocate, ignoring most of what has been said and not understanding the clear context of my capture card comment as none of these clown will ever post OC of any kind, it's always crap they pull from the Internet because they don't own any of this shit...

1. Driveclub has exaggerated effects that translate well into a gif, they're so grossly exaggerated that it doesn't even have to be quality video feed to see them clearly, Forza's effects are much more subtle and get lost in compression.

2. Oh it sure as shit does, "I don't own a Ferrari but let me tell you all about the way it drives because I saw a video on the Internet". That's how stupid it is trying to have a discussion with people who don't own something they're trying to speak about.

3. This has already been clarified multiple times.

4. The problem isn't that Driveclub looks better, it does in most ways, that's not the point. It's the brazen attacking of Forza's visuals to levels of ridiculousness that don't actually represent how it actually looks.

5. He's stupid and yeah I'm getting baited, I know this, but it doesn't change the fact that he's the type of person to post a gif as a representation of graphical output... I shouldn't even have to elaborate on how stupid that is.

But I own Forza 6.

Can't say I'm a fan of this hostility. A simple comparison to show Driveclub is a much better looking game. This is factual, and the person that made this thread takes offense to that.

Incroyable. That's French for "incredible".

nya is easily impressed, no 5club gifs are even needed to deal with the yearly forza.

I don't own a capture card. Let's make that clear.

Oh I'm sure you do... I take offense to idiots coming into a thread about weather simulation on a mechanical level and steering it off topic into a graphical debate, that is insecurity of the highest margin.

"Well I can't win this argument about the way it functions, so let me just say this other game looks better and start a shit storm"

Cancer.

Yes, it is a much better looking game, this was something I never had doubts about, but also I had a feeling you were trolling on purpose just to rustle people's feathers with the extent this gif overexaggerates Forza 6 graphics.

Can't say you failed.

However, what I have problem with is how easily fanboy-minded people jump to sweeping conclusions and take things for granted based on distorted representations of games like these.

And again, why does it matter? I can go buy 20 capture cards tomorrow and multiple copies of each game. Will that make my opinion more legitimate than yours?

1. Ok. And Driveclub still looks better in video form. So?

2. So let me get this straight. Only the visuals in Forza 6 are effected by videos and gifs. Driveclub videos and gifs are true 1:1 representations of the game. Is this what you're saying? It would be one thing if I tried to say one played better than the other based on a video. However, we're talking visuals here and the grounds for comparison are fair.

3. Whatever bro.

4. Ok, well that makes sense. If that's all you're getting at then cool. But that really didn't seem like the case at all.

5. He's brilliant! And he did that specifically to get under your skin. And it worked.

There you go. 60fps and heavy physical simulation vs 30fps and purely cosmetic effects.

It's like comparing The Order to The Witcher 3.

It matters because no one ever posts their own content, they always pull it from some other source, without explanation, documentation of rendering, capture methods, output resolution etc, it's just "this is what this looks like and I want you to believe me even though I don't know any of that aforementioned information".

1. The point it subtle details get lost in lossy video quality or during compression much more easily. A game with more exaggerated visual effects is going to still translate said effects to a low quality feed while something with subtle effects will get lost.

2. If you can't actually see what these games look like natively on a television you're going to get a greatly degraded video from the internet, that of which Driveclub will translate better through video and sustains a higher 'quality' so to speak related to its exaggerated visual effects. Like I said Forza has many of these same effects, however they are much more dialed back, they're subtle, they get lost in video form much more easily than Driveclub's do, it doesn't translate the same.

4. Yes, that is entirely the point. All of this is getting blown out of proportion because of lossy internet video, people who actually own this game can tell you outright that it's a dramatic difference from the way this game looks in play to the way it looks in an internet video, whereas for Driveclub, this lossy video actually represents quite well how the game looks in play.

@nyadc said:

@nyadc said:

@freedomfreak said:

Sure is.

Absolutely abysmal representation of what both of these games actually look like on a TV while being played, horrible.

Like I said this is an abysmal representation, it's a fucking gif, even mine is bad, it's stuttering, it's desynced, it's a compressed to hell recording, compressed again via YouTube and at 720p which is all my capture card is capable of. Even then, with all of those things considered, it still looks great, and that is what bothers me to no end about you people on the Internet. You have zero, absolutely zero experience with the content of which you speak, yet you try to form some kind of informed view on it based upon this stupid shit...

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I've got all of this right in front of me, it looks and plays fantastic, and then I have people like you telling me I need to get my eyes checked or that it looks last gen? For Driveclub to operate at the framerate Forza 6 does it would have to be running at 960x540, yeah, 540p, and you're going to attack the way Forza 6 looks?

Get out of town, people like you and the shit you come up with are an unfunny and never ending joke. The amount of deception, misinformation and lack of experience trying to bash, mislead and deter people away from something that you know absolutely nothing about and have never actually seen with your own two eyes is deplorable. Not only that, this thread isn't even about that, it's about the way the weather functions on a mechanical level, that of which there is no contest.

It looks more like pCARS than DC, pCARS is the better game than both but DC has better visuals than both.

You cant compare the graphics of a 30fps game to a 60fps game.

On top of that the op was talking about how the affects add to the overall experience of the game of which graphics are only a part of.

Some people really don't have clue, they just see Forza and automatically start posting graphic comparisons of games at different FPS

Lol.

@sts106mat: Impossible

@sts106mat: When I get home, perhaps. No promises.

Look at all these clowns trying to compare 5Club to The King.

Can't wait to play the full version!!!!

This heel turn, I want you to know, that when in doubt, I'm a fan.

Enough of the comparisons with Drive Club. It is insulting as Forza 6 is a far superior game. If you are going to draw comparisons, at least compare it to something respectable like Project Cars. As for the rain and night racing, I don't get too excited about it as racing games have been doing it for a while. I remember PGR4 was pretty impressive and that game is 9 years old.