Forza Motorsport 3 - UPDATE - IGN Preview Part 3

[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

Ugh.

Why do you even bother posting in Forza threads if all you're going to do is bash it?

What has been shown of GT5 that makes it so much better than what we've seen of Forza 3? Night racing? (which has already been in GT) Rally? (Which has also already been in GT) NASCAR? That's a very nice feature, but I don't see how that automatically makes this so much better than what has been shown of Forza 3. Beyond that, what has even been shown of GT5? What do we know for sure about the game? Virtually nothing in comparison to Forza 3. We "know" that there will be NASCAR implementation of some kind, WRC implementation of some kind damage (although all we know is that it will be in Rally races) and that it will be very pretty. That's it. What's to stop anyone from saying GT5 is "just an upgraded GT4" as well?

The_Game21x

Oh please.

Everything you said about Forza 3 was negative. Don't tell me you need me to highlight it for you.

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

Yeah there are some aspects that were not very exciting but there are some other features that got me excited for the game, in a matter of fact very very excited.

And I agree with you on the other point, Turn 10 are overhyping their game to the point that they are talking about every tiny inch of their game as the best thing ever happened to gaming.

Gamer556

Let's not act like Polyphony hasn't been arrogant in the past regarding the GT series.

If anything, Turn 10 has some catching up to do in that department.

"The Real Driving Simulator"

But honestly, trash talk is fine if you deliver the goods.

Ugh. When did i bash the game????????Adrian_Cloud

Oh please.

Everything you said about Forza 3 was negative. Don't tell me you need me to highlight it for you.

[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

Oh please.

Everything you said about Forza 3 was negative. Don't tell me you need me to highlight it for you.

marklarmer

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"] Ugh. When did i bash the game????????Adrian_Cloud

Oh please.

Everything you said about Forza 3 was negative. Don't tell me you need me to highlight it for you.

So you're telling me the purpose of that post wasn't to show that Forza 3 is just "more of the same"? Because that's the impression I got.

[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

Oh please.

Everything you said about Forza 3 was negative. Don't tell me you need me to highlight it for you.

Gamer556

So you're telling me the purpose of that post wasn't to show that Forza 3 is just "more of the same"? Because that's the impression I got.

I sure do. Lets recap. "The tuning, car customization and online have always been Forza's STRONG POINTS"(sounds positive). From what i've read in the IGN's preview this hasn't changed(ALSO POSITIVE), and its just an upgraded Forza 2 in every war possible which is generally what a sequel is supposed to be(COMMON SENSE). It seems that all of Turn 10's boasting and premature celebration is rubbing off on its fans( EVIDENCED IN THIS THREAD). Please... highlight.Adrian_Cloud

Have you ever heard of a "backhanded compliment"? It's essentially a veiled insult levied at something disguised as a compliment. Let's examine this.

All that has been shown is a season mode that you don't even have to follow. :| Do people actually think that this will give it an advantage over gt5? From what i have read this does not seem very in depth, just different stages and racing events.The tuning, car customization and online have always been Forza's strong points.From what I've read in IGN's preview this hasn't changed and its just an upgraded Forza 2 in every way possible( which is generally what a sequel is supposed to be). It seems that all of Turn 10's boasting and premature celebration is rubbing off on its fans.Adrian_Cloud

Red = Negatives

Yellow = Backhanded compliments

In the yellow highlights, you start off saying something positive but end up insulting the game further, by trying to say it hasn't shown much advancement in any of the areas that it has always been good at anyway. Essentially, you're saying that Forza has stagnated.

This article shows that significant progress has been made in all of those areas and have still improved in many areas such as car selection and the vastly improved career mode.

Nice try though.

[QUOTE="Gamer556"]

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

Let's not act like Polyphony hasn't been arrogant in the past regarding the GT series.

If anything, Turn 10 has some catching up to do in that department.

The_Game21x

"The Real Driving Simulator"

But honestly, trash talk is fine if you deliver the goods.

Oh that code name, I thought there was more.

Look I wasn't here last gen so I don't know what Polyphony did with their games before release.

but all Im watching now is Turn 10 overhyping their game, while there are great changes they are making that Im really excited about to see in the next Forza, these changes were already in GT ( like the unlocked cars from the beginning ).

"we are the first to bring the tracking line to the market and now games like NFS and others copy us" was a blatant lie, GT4 brought it first.

Cmon they are overhyping their game like crazy.

EDIT: Why the heck everytime I edit my post the words get stuck to each other.

[QUOTE="marklarmer"][QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"] I sure do. Lets recap. "The tuning, car customization and online have always been Forza's STRONG POINTS"(sounds positive). From what i've read in the IGN's preview this hasn't changed(ALSO POSITIVE), and its just an upgraded Forza 2 in every war possible which is generally what a sequel is supposed to be(COMMON SENSE). It seems that all of Turn 10's boasting and premature celebration is rubbing off on its fans( EVIDENCED IN THIS THREAD). Please... highlight.Adrian_Cloud

[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"] I sure do. Lets recap. "The tuning, car customization and online have always been Forza's STRONG POINTS"(sounds positive). From what i've read in the IGN's preview this hasn't changed(ALSO POSITIVE), and its just an upgraded Forza 2 in every war possible which is generally what a sequel is supposed to be(COMMON SENSE). It seems that all of Turn 10's boasting and premature celebration is rubbing off on its fans( EVIDENCED IN THIS THREAD). Please... highlight.The_Game21x

Have you ever heard of a "backhanded compliment"? It's essentially a veiled insult levied at something disguised as a compliment. Let's examine this.

All that has been shown is a season mode that you don't even have to follow. :| Do people actually think that this will give it an advantage over gt5? From what i have read this does not seem very in depth, just different stages and racing events.The tuning, car customization and online have always been Forza's strong points.From what I've read in IGN's preview this hasn't changed and its just an upgraded Forza 2 in every way possible( which is generally what a sequel is supposed to be). It seems that all of Turn 10's boasting and premature celebration is rubbing off on its fans.Adrian_Cloud

Red = Negatives

Yellow = Backhanded compliments

In the yellow highlights, you start off saying something positive but end up insulting the game further, by trying to say it hasn't shown much advancement in any of the areas that it has always been good at anyway. Essentially, you're saying that Forza has stagnated.

This article shows that significant progress has been made in all of those areas and have still improved in many areas such as car selection and the vastly improved career mode.

Nice try though.

[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]

[QUOTE="marklarmer"]lets just ignore the last few months of you mindlessly hating on the gamemarklarmer

Well there is bound to be people who don't like the Forza series that's fair enough. What do you think Forza should add or do to their game in order for it to be more in depth and better?

"we are the first to bring the tracking line to the market and now games like NFS and others copy us" was a blatant lie, GT4 brought it first.

Cmon they are overhyping their game like crazy.

HAZE-Unit

I wouldn't call what they are doing overhyping, it's simply the final marketing push before release. GT 5 is formidable competition and they are aggressively stepping up to the plate.

I've made negative comments, about Too Human too.. and we all know how that game turned out. Adrian_Cloud

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]

Have you ever heard of a "backhanded compliment"? It's essentially a veiled insult levied at something disguised as a compliment. Let's examine this.

[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]All that has been shown is a season mode that you don't even have to follow. :| Do people actually think that this will give it an advantage over gt5? From what i have read this does not seem very in depth, just different stages and racing events.The tuning, car customization and online have always been Forza's strong points.From what I've read in IGN's preview this hasn't changed and its just an upgraded Forza 2 in every way possible( which is generally what a sequel is supposed to be). It seems that all of Turn 10's boasting and premature celebration is rubbing off on its fans.Adrian_Cloud

Red = Negatives

Yellow = Backhanded compliments

In the yellow highlights, you start off saying something positive but end up insulting the game further, by trying to say it hasn't shown much advancement in any of the areas that it has always been good at anyway. Essentially, you're saying that Forza has stagnated.

This article shows that significant progress has been made in all of those areas and have still improved in many areas such as car selection and the vastly improved career mode.

Nice try though.

After reading enough of your posts it's pretty easy to see through the bull****. You're on a mission to downplay Forza at every oppurtunity, and I don't know who you're fooling saying otherwise. I honestly don't care that you lurk the forums looking for Forza threads to bash. Just don't lie about it when someone calls you out.

[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]I've made negative comments, about Too Human too.. and we all know how that game turned out. heretrix

[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

"we are the first to bring the tracking line to the market and now games like NFS and others copy us" was a blatant lie, GT4 brought it first.

Cmon they are overhyping their game like crazy.

heretrix

I wouldn't call what they are doing overhyping, it's simply the final marketing push before release. GT 5 is formidable competition and they are aggressively stepping up to the plate.

ha the word is assist line.

Yeah it was in GT4, if I remember correctly you just have to push the lift stick, maybe the right stick I don't know which one bit it was there.

I like it and dislike it, I like how they are aggressively marketing their game but I don't like how they are taking jabs at other games as much as they could, the halo killer marketing wouldn't make a good impression for some fans of the GT and NFS ( as Im a big fan of both series) series and it sure pissed/pissing me off.

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="Gamer556"]

"The Real Driving Simulator"

But honestly, trash talk is fine if you deliver the goods.

HAZE-Unit

Oh that code name, I thought there was more.

Look I wasn't here last gen so I don't know what Polyphony did with their games before release.

but allIm watching now is Turn 10overhypingtheir game, while there are great changes they are making that Im really excited about to see in the next Forza, these changes were already in GT ( like the unlocked cars from the beginning ).

"we are the first to bring the tracking line to the market and now games like NFS and others copy us" was a blatant lie, GT4 brought it first.

Cmonthey areoverhypingtheir game like crazy.

First, the dynamic racing line was not in GT4. :| Its first appearance in a GT game was in Prologue.

Second, I wasn't even referring to the game's tagline when I made my comment. I was referring to the following comments...

Eurogamer: One of the things that stood out in Microsoft's press conference was the Forza team saying it was the definitive simulation racer. How do you feel about that?

Kazunori Yamauchi: I don't exactly know what their announcement was about, but we've evolved over 10 years through our history, towards GT5, and I don't know if it's something that can be compared.

"Actually, I have difficulty playing other games for over five minutes. A lot of the low-level quality just stands out so much in other games that I can't stand them!"

Link

"I try them out a little bit. The only impression I get from those games is that the only benchmark for Gran Turismo is Gran Turismo and we have to base ourselves on that."

Link

Turn 10 is proud of their project. What you see as overhyping, I see as them sharing info about Forza 3. Hell, Turn 10 didn't even write this article. IGN did so I can't see how you can blame Turn 10 for "overhyping their game".

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

Have you ever heard of a "backhanded compliment"? It's essentially a veiled insult levied at something disguised as a compliment. Let's examine this.

[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]All that has been shown is a season mode that you don't even have to follow. :| Do people actually think that this will give it an advantage over gt5? From what i have read this does not seem very in depth, just different stages and racing events.The tuning, car customization and online have always been Forza's strong points.From what I've read in IGN's preview this hasn't changed and its just an upgraded Forza 2 in every way possible( which is generally what a sequel is supposed to be). It seems that all of Turn 10's boasting and premature celebration is rubbing off on its fans.Adrian_Cloud

Red = Negatives

Yellow = Backhanded compliments

In the yellow highlights, you start off saying something positive but end up insulting the game further, by trying to say it hasn't shown much advancement in any of the areas that it has always been good at anyway. Essentially, you're saying that Forza has stagnated.

This article shows that significant progress has been made in all of those areas and have still improved in many areas such as car selection and the vastly improved career mode.

Nice try though.

I'm not reading into anything too much. I'm just rather adept at seeing through bull****. :wink:

And I've considered going for a Psychology major. Maybe I'll make the change when I head back school this fall. :)

Well there is bound to be people who don't like the Forza series that's fair enough. What do you think Forza should add or do to their game in order for it to be more in depth and better?

djestar

[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"] Exactly. Considering Turn 10 has delivered the goods both of the last two times they've released a game, I think they have room to be arrogant in regards to their newest project which looks to be far better than their last two. The_Game21x

Oh that code name, I thought there was more.

Look I wasn't here last gen so I don't know what Polyphony did with their games before release.

but allIm watching now is Turn 10overhypingtheir game, while there are great changes they are making that Im really excited about to see in the next Forza, these changes were already in GT ( like the unlocked cars from the beginning ).

"we are the first to bring the tracking line to the market and now games like NFS and others copy us" was a blatant lie, GT4 brought it first.

Cmonthey areoverhypingtheir game like crazy.

First, the dynamic racing line was not in GT4. :| Its first appearance in a GT game was in Prologue.

Second, I wasn't even referring to the game's tagline when I made my comment. I was referring to the following comments...

Eurogamer: One of the things that stood out in Microsoft's press conference was the Forza team saying it was the definitive simulation racer. How do you feel about that?

Kazunori Yamauchi: I don't exactly know what their announcement was about, but we've evolved over 10 years through our history, towards GT5, and I don't know if it's something that can be compared.

"Actually, I have difficulty playing other games for over five minutes. A lot of the low-level quality just stands out so much in other games that I can't stand them!"

Link

"I try them out a little bit. The only impression I get from those games is that the only benchmark for Gran Turismo is Gran Turismo and we have to base ourselves on that."

Link

Turn 10 is proud of their project. What you see as overhyping, I see as them sharing info about Forza 3. Hell, Turn 10 didn't even write this article. IGN did so I can't see how you can blame Turn 10 for "overhyping their game".

It was there, you press the right or left stick, I don't remember which one and the assist line pops out, I was searching for a video in youtube for that but I didn't find it yet.

Well you know the first comment is kinda right, it's like the comparison between Kobe and Lebron, the guy had three rings with established statitics and reputation over the years so how the hell people comparing Lebron with Kobe?

Same couldn't be said for GT vs Forza but you know what im pointing at, the fact that GT is an established franchise over the years so calling Forza 3 the definitive simulation racer is quite jumping to conclusion without even recognizing the history of the competition.

The rest of comments is major bull as much as Forza's turn 10 guys.

They are taking major jabs at GT, saying they were taking notes, while there is nothing wrong about it but at the same time there is no proof to their story.

I believe it when a Polyphony official say they did take notes from Forza 3.

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]I've made negative comments, about Too Human too.. and we all know how that game turned out. Adrian_Cloud

[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]

Yeah, I'm at half-mast just thinking about Forza 3. It's going to be a pain in the ass balancing my steering wheel on my lap when I finally get to play it.

heretrix

Do this thing right here. I dare you =P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kf1NoHS2TA4

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

Oh that code name, I thought there was more.

Look I wasn't here last gen so I don't know what Polyphony did with their games before release.

but allIm watching now is Turn 10overhypingtheir game, while there are great changes they are making that Im really excited about to see in the next Forza, these changes were already in GT ( like the unlocked cars from the beginning ).

"we are the first to bring the tracking line to the market and now games like NFS and others copy us" was a blatant lie, GT4 brought it first.

Cmonthey areoverhypingtheir game like crazy.

HAZE-Unit

First, the dynamic racing line was not in GT4. :| Its first appearance in a GT game was in Prologue.

Second, I wasn't even referring to the game's tagline when I made my comment. I was referring to the following comments...

Eurogamer: One of the things that stood out in Microsoft's press conference was the Forza team saying it was the definitive simulation racer. How do you feel about that?

Kazunori Yamauchi: I don't exactly know what their announcement was about, but we've evolved over 10 years through our history, towards GT5, and I don't know if it's something that can be compared.

"Actually, I have difficulty playing other games for over five minutes. A lot of the low-level quality just stands out so much in other games that I can't stand them!"

Link

"I try them out a little bit. The only impression I get from those games is that the only benchmark for Gran Turismo is Gran Turismo and we have to base ourselves on that."

Link

Turn 10 is proud of their project. What you see as overhyping, I see as them sharing info about Forza 3. Hell, Turn 10 didn't even write this article. IGN did so I can't see how you can blame Turn 10 for "overhyping their game".

It was there, you press the right or left stick, I don't remember which one and the assist line pops out, I was searching for a video in youtube for that but I didn't find it yet.

Well you know the first comment is kinda right, it's like the comparison between Kobe and Lebron, the guy had three rings with established statitics and reputation over the years so how the hell people comparing Lebron with Kobe?

Same couldn't be said for GT vs Forza but you know what im pointing at, the fact that GT is an established franchise over the years so calling Forza 3 the definitive simulation racer is quite jumping to conclusion without even recognizing the history of the competition.

The rest of comments is major bull as much as Forza's turn 10 guys.

They are taking major jabs at GT, saying they were taking notes, while there is nothing wrong about it but at the same time there is no proof to their story.

I believe it when a Polyphony official say they did take notes from Forza 3.

To re-educate myself on GT4, I popped it into my PS3 a few minutes ago before you posted and pressed in both sticks and no assist line popped out. Considering the dozens of hours I've invested into the game, I think I would've noticed the feature if it was in there. I went looking for it in the menus and couldn't find it so either you're mistaken about GT having it or your copy of the game is different from mine.

Turn 10 calling their game the "definitive racing simulator" is no more arrogant than PD calling GT "The Real Driving Simulator".

As far as the "taking notes" comment, here's what Turn 10 actually said...

"Perhaps the most surprising to me was when a couple developers from Gran Turismo makers Polyphony Digital came by to personally get hands-on with Forza 3, all the while taking careful notes, examining our UI system, shooting photos, and directly asking us some pretty interesting questions. The reason I say I was personally surprised was because PD aren't generally known as a studio to acknowledge that there are racing games that exist beyond their own."

Now, where did they take a cheap shot at PD? The last sentence? No, that's not a cheap shot, that's the truth. The quotes I posted are proof enough of that.

And don't hold your breath for a comment from PD saying that they took notes. They'd never be humble enough to actually admit that.

[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"][QUOTE="heretrix"]It was fun. Did you ever play it?

heretrix

[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

First, the dynamic racing line was not in GT4. :| Its first appearance in a GT game was in Prologue.

Second, I wasn't even referring to the game's tagline when I made my comment. I was referring to the following comments...

Eurogamer: One of the things that stood out in Microsoft's press conference was the Forza team saying it was the definitive simulation racer. How do you feel about that?

Kazunori Yamauchi: I don't exactly know what their announcement was about, but we've evolved over 10 years through our history, towards GT5, and I don't know if it's something that can be compared.

"Actually, I have difficulty playing other games for over five minutes. A lot of the low-level quality just stands out so much in other games that I can't stand them!"

Link

"I try them out a little bit. The only impression I get from those games is that the only benchmark for Gran Turismo is Gran Turismo and we have to base ourselves on that."

Link

Turn 10 is proud of their project. What you see as overhyping, I see as them sharing info about Forza 3. Hell, Turn 10 didn't even write this article. IGN did so I can't see how you can blame Turn 10 for "overhyping their game".

The_Game21x

It was there, you press the right or left stick, I don't remember which one and the assist line pops out, I was searching for a video in youtube for that but I didn't find it yet.

Well you know the first comment is kinda right, it's like the comparison between Kobe and Lebron, the guy had three rings with established statitics and reputation over the years so how the hell people comparing Lebron with Kobe?

Same couldn't be said for GT vs Forza but you know what im pointing at, the fact that GT is an established franchise over the years so calling Forza 3 the definitive simulation racer is quite jumping to conclusion without even recognizing the history of the competition.

The rest of comments is major bull as much as Forza's turn 10 guys.

They are taking major jabs at GT, saying they were taking notes, while there is nothing wrong about it but at the same time there is no proof to their story.

I believe it when a Polyphony official say they did take notes from Forza 3.

To re-educate myself on GT4, I popped it into my PS3 a few minutes ago before you posted and pressed in both sticks and no assist line popped out. Considering the dozens of hours I've invested into the game, I think I would've noticed the feature if it was in there. I went looking for it in the menus and couldn't find it so either you're mistaken about GT having it or your copy of the game is different from mine.

Turn 10 calling their game the "definitive racing simulator" is no more arrogant than PD calling GT "The Real Driving Simulator".

As far as the "taking notes" comment, here's what Turn 10 actually said...

"Perhaps the most surprising to me was when a couple developers from Gran Turismo makers Polyphony Digital came by to personally get hands-on with Forza 3, all the while taking careful notes, examining our UI system, shooting photos, and directly asking us some pretty interesting questions. The reason I say I was personally surprised was because PD aren't generally known as a studio to acknowledge that there are racing games that exist beyond their own."

Now, where did they take a cheap shot at PD? The last sentence? No, that's not a cheap shot, that's the truth. The quotes I posted are proof enough of that.

And don't hold your breath for a comment from PD saying that they took notes. They'd never be humble enough to actually admit that.

hmmm....thats weird, maybe because I played the JP version of the game, ok just try it out on the licence courses if you don't mind, if it was only on the licence courses then Im really big mistaken about the feature.

Im really trying too hard to remember and Im sure it was in GT4 somehow but if it was only on the licence courses then it's a weak point and Turn 10 would be right about their claim.

As I said its not a bad thing to take notes and photos and such but I think they were bragging and I don't believe the story til GT guys says so.

No Im not holding my breath because after what I read from poly, I know for a fact now that they are as much arrogant as Turn 10, in a matter of fact they have a bigger pride/ego than Turn 10 which is good because now Im no more pissed off, I was like "ok turn 10 are saying this and that and why the heck poly aren't responding?" that what pissed me off :P

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]

Yeah, I'm at half-mast just thinking about Forza 3. It's going to be a pain in the ass balancing my steering wheel on my lap when I finally get to play it.

zero_snake99

Do this thing right here. I dare you =P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kf1NoHS2TA4

Baby steps man, baby steps...

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"] :| I played the demo...... yea. I tried to forget about that. Adrian_Cloud

[QUOTE="masiisam"]

[QUOTE="zero_snake99"]

Yep.

zero_snake99

TEh FOrZA!!! SUKS!!!

Are you really looking that hard to pick it apart.....It's that bad?..You comment on a reflection from a still shot that you will never see during gameplay..but cant comment on any of the revealed gameplay elements?

Try to stay on topic...

What did you think of the information shared in the interview?

Honestly? I think it's cool. I'll be buying this once I get a new 360 fo' sho'. It's certainly a fun game, and at times I prefer it over GT (my favorite console sim) because its that fun. Though I've never really cared for the community that came along with the game, I just want to tune up my car and race it against others. Personally, I THINK (considering not much info about it is out) I will like GT more, simply because of the history I've had with it and the shear amount of content that they provide will keep me coming back for more. I've easily put over 200 hours in GT4 and probably over 1000 hours in the GT series alone.

Anyway, like I said, I'm already getting this game when it comes out lol. I just like seeing reactions from that picture.

Nice...both games will be fun...

I like the direction T10 are moving the genre...Bringing in a new demographic while retaining it's core fan base...At the end of the day they are moving things forward..not by doing a pretty build...but getting more people into the genre by making it more accessible...This hopefully will have an effect on sales down the road and intern more games released...

[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]

Have you ever heard of a "backhanded compliment"? It's essentially a veiled insult levied at something disguised as a compliment. Let's examine this.

[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]All that has been shown is a season mode that you don't even have to follow. :| Do people actually think that this will give it an advantage over gt5? From what i have read this does not seem very in depth, just different stages and racing events.The tuning, car customization and online have always been Forza's strong points.From what I've read in IGN's preview this hasn't changed and its just an upgraded Forza 2 in every way possible( which is generally what a sequel is supposed to be). It seems that all of Turn 10's boasting and premature celebration is rubbing off on its fans.The_Game21x

Red = Negatives

Yellow = Backhanded compliments

In the yellow highlights, you start off saying something positive but end up insulting the game further, by trying to say it hasn't shown much advancement in any of the areas that it has always been good at anyway. Essentially, you're saying that Forza has stagnated.

This article shows that significant progress has been made in all of those areas and have still improved in many areas such as car selection and the vastly improved career mode.

Nice try though.

The_Game21x is exactly correct though. The first half of what you said is flat-out bashing the game, and the latter half is saying 'they were already good at this before, so it's not like what they're doing now is anything special.' You aren't complimenting Forza 3, you're complimenting Forza 1/2 and using that to bash 3.

And missing the point anyway. This is exactly what a sequel SHOULD be, precisely. That is, however, a very rare thing for a game to accomplish, as pretty much every game series out there falls flat on its face when it comes to making sequels, especially in this very example Polyphony with GT4 and GT5P. Turn 10, from what we can tell, has stuck to exactly what they did well, improved on it, fixed many of the issues with the previous game, and added a ton more content in the process.

[QUOTE="zero_snake99"]

Yep.

masiisam

TEh FOrZA!!! SUKS!!!

Are you really looking that hard to pick it apart.....It's that bad?..You comment on a reflection from a still shot that you will never see during gameplay..but cant comment on any of the revealed gameplay elements?

Try to stay on topic...

What did you think of the information shared in the interview?

]lemmings did it to GT5 During and After E3.....stereointegrity

lemmings did it to GT5 During and After E3.....

stereointegrity

How? PD/Sony haven't released a single gameplay shot of GT5. :?

hmmm....thats weird, maybe because I played the JP version of the game, ok just try it out on the licence courses if you don't mind, if it was only on the licence courses then Im really big mistaken about the feature.

Im really trying too hard to remember and Im sure it was in GT4 somehow but if it was only on the licence courses then it's a weak point and Turn 10 would be right about their claim.

As I said its not a bad thing to take notes and photos and such but I think they were bragging and I don't believe the story til GT guys says so.

No Im not holding my breath because after what I read from poly, I know for a fact now that they are as much arrogant as Turn 10, in a matter of fact they have a bigger pride/ego than Turn 10 which is good because now Im no more pissed off, I was like "ok turn 10 are saying this and that and why the heck poly aren't responding?" that what pissed me off :P

HAZE-Unit

[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]hmmm....thats weird, maybe because I played the JP version of the game, ok just try it out on the licence courses if you don't mind, if it was only on the licence courses then Im really big mistaken about the feature.

Im really trying too hard to remember and Im sure it was in GT4 somehow but if it was only on the licence courses then it's a weak point and Turn 10 would be right about their claim.

As I said its not a bad thing to take notes and photos and such but I think they were bragging and I don't believe the story til GT guys says so.

No Im not holding my breath because after what I read from poly, I know for a fact now that they are as much arrogant as Turn 10, in a matter of fact they have a bigger pride/ego than Turn 10 which is good because now Im no more pissed off, I was like "ok turn 10 are saying this and that and why the heck poly aren't responding?" that what pissed me off :P

zero_snake99

[QUOTE="stereointegrity"]lemmings did it to GT5 During and After E3.....

PBSnipes

How? PD/Sony haven't released a single gameplay shot of GT5. :?

[QUOTE="marklarmer"][QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"] You've got to be kidding me, your going to come in here with that nonsense. Just because i disagree with your opinion doesn't mean i'm bashing the game. So since that is what you consider bashing. then sure, i must also be bashing the game now.

Adrian_Cloud

If there is a Forza 3 thread mentioning some new feature or new screen shots we can literally set our watches for when you will enter and say something negative. Now donb't get me wrong, I'm all for everyones right to disagree but when you're as consistent as you have been it becomes noticeable to everyone, I mean why is everyone singling you out for it?

We're not stupid and you can try telling us you've made positive comments etc but we all know you're extremely biased against the game. You always downplay every feature and you even use the odd positive comment to sneak 5 more negative comments. Like I said, we're not stupid and we've made our minds up about you...we're pretty sure we know where you're coming from ;)

This isn't even a career mode... this is a fancy way of obscuring the fact all these races are just individual events that you unlock little by little as you keep playing... Do I ever win a race and make the other races hate me more? Is there a points standing at the end of each year? Do you build a team and amass wealth to make a better racing team? This seems like more and more minigames while they cloud it off with progress bars and 'leveling up' so no one notices...raahsnavj

Some new screenies...the R8 on Nordschleife :)

It seems like there's a Forza thread everyday. >_> Yes it looks nice but can we talk about GT instead? I don't see as much GT topics anymore.double_heist

Well the people who make Gran Turismo need to actually release or create news then.

It seems like there's a Forza thread everyday. >_> Yes it looks nice but can we talk about GT instead? I don't see as much GT topics anymore.double_heist

Well the people who make Gran Turismo need to actually release or create news then.