Forza Motorsport 3 - UPDATE - IGN Preview Part 3

This isn't even a career mode... this is a fancy way of obscuring the fact all these races are just individual events that you unlock little by little as you keep playing... Do I ever win a race and make the other races hate me more? Is there a points standing at the end of each year? Do you build a team and amass wealth to make a better racing team? This seems like more and more minigames while they cloud it off with progress bars and 'leveling up' so no one notices...raahsnavj

[QUOTE="raahsnavj"]This isn't even a career mode... this is a fancy way of obscuring the fact all these races are just individual events that you unlock little by little as you keep playing... Do I ever win a race and make the other races hate me more? Is there a points standing at the end of each year? Do you build a team and amass wealth to make a better racing team? This seems like more and more minigames while they cloud it off with progress bars and 'leveling up' so no one notices...heretrix

The new preview is great, as expected but I have to say I laughed at this part.

"Gran Turismo developer Polyphony Digital should pay attention. Turn 10 is doing some great things with Forza 3. Like releasing it."

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="raahsnavj"]This isn't even a career mode... this is a fancy way of obscuring the fact all these races are just individual events that you unlock little by little as you keep playing... Do I ever win a race and make the other races hate me more? Is there a points standing at the end of each year? Do you build a team and amass wealth to make a better racing team? This seems like more and more minigames while they cloud it off with progress bars and 'leveling up' so no one notices...raahsnavj

IGN is really good at hyping games and we all know F3 will get from them 9-10 out of 10. just like any hyped game and they are plenty of them and once we gamers start playing it most of us are/will (but i hope not) disappointed happened way too many times this Gen

I'm glad they worked in the clutch but I don't see the need for a button. If your going to get the best times, your going to need that fanatec :DCouth_

picture of the M5? interior is kinda rough, Otherwise, Amazing looking!

I was hopeing they would cover the livery editer like part 1 implies, but it didn't ,poo.

Overall, looks like we get another solid, Amazing AAA game. Everything I can think of has been improved on. It's everything the perfect sequel should be.

Articles from people who have played the game, say that the disconnected from track feeling is completely gone, the physics are way smoother, and you get much better feedback. Such as this one:

http://www.vvvgamer.com/forum/showpost.php?s=3f5d341aa3b98b8fce10a397c63b76d3&p=111445&postcount=1

[QUOTE="Couth_"]I'm glad they worked in the clutch but I don't see the need for a button. If your going to get the best times, your going to need that fanatec :DHuusAsking

dont matter, the game comes with 2 dvd's and for a racing game that is a huge fail IMO.

[QUOTE="Couth_"]I'm glad they worked in the clutch but I don't see the need for a button. If your going to get the best times, your going to need that fanatec :DHuusAsking

Racing games have never had accurate transmission models (case in point, you can use an automatic in any car), so I'm sure you'll have the same options (ie auto, manual or manual+clutch) regardless of your choice in car. That said, I would assume the automatics in cars with dual-clutch or sequential transmissions will be significantly faster than cars with "standard" automatics.

dont matter, the game comes with 2 dvd's and for a racing game that is a huge fail IMO.

ZoomZoom2490

[QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"]

dont matter, the game comes with 2 dvd's and for a racing game that is a huge fail IMO.

Tobin09

dont matter, the game comes with 2 dvd's and for a racing game that is a huge fail IMO.

ZoomZoom2490

Putting "IMO" at the end doesn't make your post any less ridiculous. The second disk is installed to the HDD. It's a non-issue.

[QUOTE="Tobin09"][QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"]

dont matter, the game comes with 2 dvd's and for a racing game that is a huge fail IMO.

HuusAsking

[QUOTE="Tobin09"][QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"]

dont matter, the game comes with 2 dvd's and for a racing game that is a huge fail IMO.

HuusAsking

The game works without the extra content, and an Arcade+60GB Live starter pack is more-or-less the same price as the Pro.

[QUOTE="HuusAsking"][QUOTE="Tobin09"] Yes, becouse the 2nd disc with bonus content, that you use to install once, is such a hassle.PBSnipes

The game works without the extra content, and an Arcade+60GB Live starter pack is more-or-less the same price as the Pro.

[QUOTE="HuusAsking"][QUOTE="Tobin09"] Yes, becouse the 2nd disc with bonus content, that you use to install once, is such a hassle.PBSnipes

The game works without the extra content, and an Arcade+60GB Live starter pack is more-or-less the same price as the Pro.

The new preview is great, as expected but I have to say I laughed at this part.

"Gran Turismo developer Polyphony Digital should pay attention. Turn 10 is doing some great things with Forza 3. Like releasing it."

The_Game21x

That was pretty funny but Im suprised such a fanboy coment was actually allowed =S

But yeah brilliant preview. Whilst Gt5 may have better graphics and physics Forza 3 does have a lot of content.

[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]

[QUOTE="HuusAsking"]What about if you own an Arcade or Core with no hard drive?ZoomZoom2490

The game works without the extra content, and an Arcade+60GB Live starter pack is more-or-less the same price as the Pro.

Sorry if old:

LMAO WTF: "Gran Turismo developer Polyphony Digital should pay attention. Turn 10 is doing some great things with Forza 3. Like releasing it."

Everything else sounds pretty amazing :D.

dont matter, the game comes with 2 dvd's and for a racing game that is a huge fail IMO.

ZoomZoom2490

I dont remember ppl calling GT2 a "huge fail" when it came in 2 CDs :|

More DVDs = more content :D

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]

Yeah, I'm at half-mast just thinking about Forza 3. It's going to be a pain in the ass balancing my steering wheel on my lap when I finally get to play it.

zero_snake99

Do this thing right here. I dare you =P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kf1NoHS2TA4

[QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"]

dont matter, the game comes with 2 dvd's and for a racing game that is a huge fail IMO.

I dont remember ppl calling GT2 a "huge fail" when it came in 2 CDs :|

More DVDs = more content :D

[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]

[QUOTE="HuusAsking"]What about if you own an Arcade or Core with no hard drive?ZoomZoom2490

The game works without the extra content, and an Arcade+60GB Live starter pack is more-or-less the same price as the Pro.

Wrong. :|

If you're going to try to bash Forza 3, at least have your facts straight first.

[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]

[QUOTE="HuusAsking"]What about if you own an Arcade or Core with no hard drive?HuusAsking

The game works without the extra content, and an Arcade+60GB Live starter pack is more-or-less the same price as the Pro.

This is where a standard HDD would come in handy...

But that's the choice yea made if someone went the route of a core/arcade model...The consumer made that decision because of their requirements at the time......If those requirements have changed...then they need to upgrade...

Consumers that do not have an HDD will still be able to enjoy the game...but they will sacrifice some content because of that decision...Just like any DLC post purchase...

I applaud T10 for doing what they have done. ....Instead of charging for the content to be DLC.....They just included it ona disk...

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

The new preview is great, as expected but I have to say I laughed at this part.

"Gran Turismo developer Polyphony Digital should pay attention. Turn 10 is doing some great things with Forza 3. Like releasing it."

NinjaMunkey01

That was pretty funny but Im suprised such a fanboy coment was actually allowed =S

But yeah brilliant preview. Whilst Gt5 may have better graphics and physics Forza 3 does have a lot of content.

WHAT!?!?!?!?!

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

The new preview is great, as expected but I have to say I laughed at this part.

"Gran Turismo developer Polyphony Digital should pay attention. Turn 10 is doing some great things with Forza 3. Like releasing it."

NinjaMunkey01

That was pretty funny but Im suprised such a fanboy coment was actually allowed =S

But yeah brilliant preview. Whilst Gt5 may have better graphics and physics Forza 3 does have a lot of content.

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"]

dont matter, the game comes with 2 dvd's and for a racing game that is a huge fail IMO.

ZoomZoom2490

I dont remember ppl calling GT2 a "huge fail" when it came in 2 CDs :|

More DVDs = more content :D

Waiting atleast 15 minutes of install everytime you go to a diff part of the game isn't much better.

[QUOTE="NinjaMunkey01"]

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

The new preview is great, as expected but I have to say I laughed at this part.

"Gran Turismo developer Polyphony Digital should pay attention. Turn 10 is doing some great things with Forza 3. Like releasing it."

Camer999

That was pretty funny but Im suprised such a fanboy coment was actually allowed =S

But yeah brilliant preview. Whilst Gt5 may have better graphics and physics Forza 3 does have a lot of content.

WHAT!?!?!?!?!

I still for the life of me don't get what GT fans mean when they talk about physics.

[QUOTE="NinjaMunkey01"]

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

The new preview is great, as expected but I have to say I laughed at this part.

"Gran Turismo developer Polyphony Digital should pay attention. Turn 10 is doing some great things with Forza 3. Like releasing it."

Camer999

That was pretty funny but Im suprised such a fanboy coment was actually allowed =S

But yeah brilliant preview. Whilst Gt5 may have better graphics and physics Forza 3 does have a lot of content.

WHAT!?!?!?!?!

what? I said that GT5 will have better graphics and physics... Forza 3 looks good but imo GT5 will be looking better. Never said it would be better overall, that no one can tell yet... But the lighting looks more realistic, as do the colours. Plus theres 2x the cars per track, and theyd never allow that if the game didnt look better.

[QUOTE="Camer999"]

[QUOTE="NinjaMunkey01"]

That was pretty funny but Im suprised such a fanboy coment was actually allowed =S

But yeah brilliant preview. Whilst Gt5 may have better graphics and physics Forza 3 does have a lot of content.

NinjaMunkey01

WHAT!?!?!?!?!

what? I said that GT5 will have better graphics and physics... Forza 3 looks good but imo GT5 will be looking better. Never said it would be better overall, that no one can tell yet... But the lighting looks more realistic, as do the colours. Plus theres 2x the cars per track, and theyd never allow that if the game didnt look better.

I think he said "WHAT?" in response to the "physics" comment.

[QUOTE="Camer999"]

[QUOTE="NinjaMunkey01"]

That was pretty funny but Im suprised such a fanboy coment was actually allowed =S

But yeah brilliant preview. Whilst Gt5 may have better graphics and physics Forza 3 does have a lot of content.

NinjaMunkey01

WHAT!?!?!?!?!

what? I said that GT5 will have better graphics and physics... Forza 3 looks good but imo GT5 will be looking better. Never said it would be better overall, that no one can tell yet... But the lighting looks more realistic, as do the colours. Plus theres 2x the cars per track, and theyd never allow that if the game didnt look better.

[QUOTE="NinjaMunkey01"]

[QUOTE="Camer999"]

WHAT!?!?!?!?!

what? I said that GT5 will have better graphics and physics... Forza 3 looks good but imo GT5 will be looking better. Never said it would be better overall, that no one can tell yet... But the lighting looks more realistic, as do the colours. Plus theres 2x the cars per track, and theyd never allow that if the game didnt look better.

I think he said "WHAT?" in response to the "physics" comment.

[QUOTE="NinjaMunkey01"]

[QUOTE="Camer999"]

WHAT!?!?!?!?!

Tragic_Kingdom7

what? I said that GT5 will have better graphics and physics... Forza 3 looks good but imo GT5 will be looking better. Never said it would be better overall, that no one can tell yet... But the lighting looks more realistic, as do the colours. Plus theres 2x the cars per track, and theyd never allow that if the game didnt look better.

I think he said "WHAT?" in response to the "physics" comment.

Even to the graphics, and since I believe FM3's physics have more calculations to do, it would be harder for more than 8 cars. Also, the graphics in FM3 are a little better for me, from the car models to the backgrounds, or it could be the technical fact that forzas cars have so many polys, is to why I think that.

Forza 2 Commercial - eBaum's World Forum

That link shows you how many polys FM2 cars had

"A developer from Microsoft Game Studios has said that in the final stages of development, cars had 150,000–220,000 polygons per car and the most detailed models had been peaked at 250,000 polygons."

So 10X that is 1,500,000 to 2,500,000 lol.

[QUOTE="Tragic_Kingdom7"]

[QUOTE="NinjaMunkey01"]

what? I said that GT5 will have better graphics and physics... Forza 3 looks good but imo GT5 will be looking better. Never said it would be better overall, that no one can tell yet... But the lighting looks more realistic, as do the colours. Plus theres 2x the cars per track, and theyd never allow that if the game didnt look better.

NinjaMunkey01

I think he said "WHAT?" in response to the "physics" comment.

I dunno, FM2's physics are better than GT5s in many reviews/hardcore sim guys opinion, and forza 3 only improves on that some guys even said,"I thought I was playing a PC sim!"

[QUOTE="NinjaMunkey01"][QUOTE="Tragic_Kingdom7"]

I think he said "WHAT?" in response to the "physics" comment.

I dunno, FM2's physics are better than GT5s in many reviews/hardcore sim guys opinion, and forza 3 only improves on that some guys even said,"I thought I was playing a PC sim!"

[QUOTE="Camer999"]

[QUOTE="NinjaMunkey01"] Yeah ok fair enough we dont know that yet. well tbh its either going to be the saqme or better imo. With all the time put into this and lets be honest sony has much more riding on this than MS has rifing on forza 3...NinjaMunkey01

I dunno, FM2's physics are better than GT5s in many reviews/hardcore sim guys opinion, and forza 3 only improves on that some guys even said,"I thought I was playing a PC sim!"

What, forza's custimization is over 9000, serously, it has tons of it.

[QUOTE="Tragic_Kingdom7"]

[QUOTE="NinjaMunkey01"]

what? I said that GT5 will have better graphics and physics... Forza 3 looks good but imo GT5 will be looking better. Never said it would be better overall, that no one can tell yet... But the lighting looks more realistic, as do the colours. Plus theres 2x the cars per track, and theyd never allow that if the game didnt look better.

Camer999

I think he said "WHAT?" in response to the "physics" comment.

Even to the graphics, and since I believe FM3's physics have more calculations to do, it would be harder for more than 8 cars. Also, the graphics in FM3 are a little better for me, from the car models to the backgrounds, or it could be the technical fact that forzas cars have so many polys, is to why I think that.

Forza 2 Commercial - eBaum's World Forum

That link shows you how many polys FM2 cars had

"A developer from Microsoft Game Studios has said that in the final stages of development, cars had 150,000–220,000 polygons per car and the most detailed models had been peaked at 250,000 polygons."

So 10X that is 1,500,000 to 2,500,000 lol.

I don't think 1.5M is possible in the current consoles.

[QUOTE="Camer999"]

[QUOTE="Tragic_Kingdom7"]

I think he said "WHAT?" in response to the "physics" comment.

HAZE-Unit

Even to the graphics, and since I believe FM3's physics have more calculations to do, it would be harder for more than 8 cars. Also, the graphics in FM3 are a little better for me, from the car models to the backgrounds, or it could be the technical fact that forzas cars have so many polys, is to why I think that.

Forza 2 Commercial - eBaum's World Forum

That link shows you how many polys FM2 cars had

"A developer from Microsoft Game Studios has said that in the final stages of development, cars had 150,000–220,000 polygons per car and the most detailed models had been peaked at 250,000 polygons."

So 10X that is 1,500,000 to 2,500,000 lol.

I don't think 1.5M is possible in the current consoles.

Tessalation? They have to get 10X from somewhere.

Turn 10 is blowin' it out with FM3 ans taking the genre to another level.

BioShockOwnz

No, Polyphony Digital will do that with GT5. :)

[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

[QUOTE="Camer999"]

Even to the graphics, and since I believe FM3's physics have more calculations to do, it would be harder for more than 8 cars. Also, the graphics in FM3 are a little better for me, from the car models to the backgrounds, or it could be the technical fact that forzas cars have so many polys, is to why I think that.

Forza 2 Commercial - eBaum's World Forum

That link shows you how many polys FM2 cars had

"A developer from Microsoft Game Studios has said that in the final stages of development, cars had 150,000–220,000 polygons per car and the most detailed models had been peaked at 250,000 polygons."

So 10X that is 1,500,000 to 2,500,000 lol.

Camer999

I don't think 1.5M is possible in the current consoles.

Tessalation? They have to get 10X from somewhere.

Maybe they meant the whole scene is 10x because it's impossible for each car to have these amount of polygons to render in a steady frame rate but Im no expert on these things, we need some experts to fill us on this info.

[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

[QUOTE="Camer999"]

Even to the graphics, and since I believe FM3's physics have more calculations to do, it would be harder for more than 8 cars. Also, the graphics in FM3 are a little better for me, from the car models to the backgrounds, or it could be the technical fact that forzas cars have so many polys, is to why I think that.

Forza 2 Commercial - eBaum's World Forum

That link shows you how many polys FM2 cars had

"A developer from Microsoft Game Studios has said that in the final stages of development, cars had 150,000–220,000 polygons per car and the most detailed models had been peaked at 250,000 polygons."

So 10X that is 1,500,000 to 2,500,000 lol.

Camer999

I don't think 1.5M is possible in the current consoles.

Tessalation? They have to get 10X from somewhere.

Xbox 360 Polygon Performance:

* 500 million triangles per second

http://hardware.teamxbox.com/articles/xbox/1144/The-Xbox-360-System-Specifications/p1

[QUOTE="Camer999"]

[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

I don't think 1.5M is possible in the current consoles.

Gta3-fan334

Tessalation? They have to get 10X from somewhere.

Xbox 360 Polygon Performance:

* 500 million triangles per second

http://hardware.teamxbox.com/articles/xbox/1144/The-Xbox-360-System-Specifications/p1

I don't think even half of the performance of that could be achieved this gen, Im sure of it, we need confirmation from experts about my claims.

Please, Snake's character model is 10k-15k and Drakes's is between the 20k-25k polygons.

GT5p's is 200k each car and it looks slightly better than Forza 3's car models so if it was true we would have seen a major difference between the games, graphics wise.

[QUOTE="Camer999"]

[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

I don't think 1.5M is possible in the current consoles.

HAZE-Unit

Tessalation? They have to get 10X from somewhere.

Maybe they meant the whole scene is 10x because it's impossible for each car to have these amount of polygons to render in a steady frame rate but Im no expert on these things, we need some experts to fill us on this info.

Well,http://forzamotorsport.net/en-us/fm3_factsheet.htm

"All 400-plus cars in the game have been built with more than 10 times the amount of polygons as "Forza Motorsport 2."

[QUOTE="Gta3-fan334"]

[QUOTE="Camer999"]

Tessalation? They have to get 10X from somewhere.

HAZE-Unit

Xbox 360 Polygon Performance:

* 500 million triangles per second

http://hardware.teamxbox.com/articles/xbox/1144/The-Xbox-360-System-Specifications/p1

I don't think even half of the performance of that could be achieved this gen, Im sure of it, we need confirmation from experts about my claims.

Please, Snake's character model is 10k-15k and Drakes's is between the 20k-25k polygons.

GT5p's is 200k each car and it looks slightly better than Forza 3's car models so if it was true we would have seen a major difference between the games, graphics wise.

GT5s models aren't really better, lighting yes.. But T10 will keep improving the game, we will see.

[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

[QUOTE="Camer999"]

Tessalation? They have to get 10X from somewhere.

Camer999

Maybe they meant the whole scene is 10x because it's impossible for each car to have these amount of polygons to render in a steady frame rate but Im no expert on these things, we need some experts to fill us on this info.

Well,http://forzamotorsport.net/en-us/fm3_factsheet.htm

"All 400-plus cars in the game have been built with more than 10 times the amount of polygons as "Forza Motorsport 2."

wow thats ALOT of polygons.

I don't know Im no expert so maybe they have some tricks to do that but it isn't showing compared to GT5's graphics.

[QUOTE="Camer999"]

[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

Maybe they meant the whole scene is 10x because it's impossible for each car to have these amount of polygons to render in a steady frame rate but Im no expert on these things, we need some experts to fill us on this info.

HAZE-Unit

Well,http://forzamotorsport.net/en-us/fm3_factsheet.htm

"All 400-plus cars in the game have been built with more than 10 times the amount of polygons as "Forza Motorsport 2."

wow thats ALOT of polygons.

I don't know Im no expert so maybe they have some tricks to do that.

Hmm, also drake is made out of 30k polys

[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

[QUOTE="Camer999"]

Well,http://forzamotorsport.net/en-us/fm3_factsheet.htm

"All 400-plus cars in the game have been built with more than 10 times the amount of polygons as "Forza Motorsport 2."

Camer999

wow thats ALOT of polygons.

I don't know Im no expert so maybe they have some tricks to do that.

Hmm, also drake is made out of 30k polys

really? thats nice, i thought it was around the 25k, cool.