Forza Motorsport 3 will ship with two discs

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="Chutebox"]Sorry for the silly question, but audi means what?Chutebox

Disc one is the full experience, even disc one is bigger than any other racing game out there. II-FBIsniper-II

It's 2009 buy a HDD.

It's 2009 buy a HDD.

PS3_3DO

[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

It's 2009 buy a HDD.

Chutebox

[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

It's 2009 buy a HDD.

delta3074

I don't care about swapping discs by the way, just hate what MS did with the HDD.

[QUOTE="danish-death"][QUOTE="Chutebox"]

It's needed for AV enthusiasts too.

Sorry for the silly question, but audi means what?

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="Chutebox"] Yea, for super inflated prices too!Chutebox

I don't care about swapping discs by the way, just hate what MS did with the HDD.

[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="delta3074"]come on dude, you know he meant audio.delta3074

not really, you can get a 20gb HDD which is more than enough for 20 quid here in blighty, they are dirt cheap since MS phased them out in favour of the 60 gb drives, or you can just swap discs i suppose.delta3074

I don't care about swapping discs by the way, just hate what MS did with the HDD.

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="Chutebox"] I didn't want to assume anything lol. I don't see why audio enthusiasts wouldn't want the Ps3 though.danish-death

I've never hard other BD players outputing better quality sound though.

Wonder if they will copy GT2 with the scratch and sniff disk's i cant believe i still have those xD

Otacon : Hold it, Snake. Time to change the disc. I know, I know...
It's a pain. But you need to swap Disc 1 for Disc 2. You see
the disc labeled "2"?

Snake : No.

Otacon : Huh? Oh, wait! We're on PS3 system! It's a Blu-ray Disc.
Dual-layered, too - no need to swap.

Snake : Damn it, Otacon, get a grip!

Otacon : Yeah, what an age we live in, huh, Snake? Wonder what
they'll think of next!

Reminded me of that! Anyway, good for FM3, I guess...

It's laughable how people say that blu-ray is not needed. I guess those people will have to eat their words nowPS_John

I wonder how many hours did you lost in your life just on PS3s mandatory instals :P

[QUOTE="danish-death"][QUOTE="delta3074"]i know, one would actually expect better audio from a ps3 than a bog standard blu ray player, especially seeing as the audio on MGS4 is 7.1 lossless audio, if i was goin t to buy a blu-ray player i would buy a ps3, because the video/audio is hardware accelerated, how may blu-ray players come with GPU gardware accelerationChutebox

I've never hard other BD players outputing better quality sound though.

[QUOTE="PS_John"]It's laughable how people say that blu-ray is not needed. I guess those people will have to eat their words nowPAL360

I wonder how many hours did you lost in your life just on PS3s mandatory instals :P

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="danish-death"] An enthusiast would pick something else since there's is actually something better for 7.1 sounds, however with better hardware comes a higher price. When comparing picture quality between the various bluray players they're all identical. So if you're a regular casual movie watcher just buy a PS3. Oh and the PS3 is NOT bad, it just can't supply as good a sound quality as others, more expensive bluray players can. delta3074

I've never hard other BD players outputing better quality sound though.

[QUOTE="danish-death"][QUOTE="delta3074"]i know, one would actually expect better audio from a ps3 than a bog standard blu ray player, especially seeing as the audio on MGS4 is 7.1 lossless audio, if i was goin t to buy a blu-ray player i would buy a ps3, because the video/audio is hardware accelerated, how may blu-ray players come with GPU gardware accelerationChutebox

I've never hard other BD players outputing better quality sound though.

Yeap 2 discs might become more of a trend for the 360. Saying that I played and loved MGS4 but some if those load times made the thought of having to get up and change a disc welcoming. I could have made a 3 course meal between some of the MGS4 load times. I'm slightly older that most being in my 30's so I'm no stranger to have to change discs for game. Not an issue as long as you don't have to be changing discs ever 10 mins.

[QUOTE="II-FBIsniper-II"]Disc one is the full experience, even disc one is bigger than any other racing game out there. jmdude

I cant believe people are saying Blu-ray is not needed. sure disc swapping is not an issue, honestly dont see the problem with disc swapping, but still it would be nice to not have to disc swap. Just like in Star Ocean IV on 360, If you want to continue playing after you beat the game, you need to constantly swap between two disks, since one optional dungeon is in disk 2; and your ship, where you can create items and stuff, is in disk 3. imo, its like wired and wireless controller. MightyMuna

That's more of an issue with development team being poor than anything. In past FF games, you didn't have to switch anything when going into extra areas or past dungeons. So that's just poor development by Tri-Ace.

[QUOTE="Walker34"]

halo odst and mass effect 2 have also been confirmed with 2 discs. I'm assuming alan wake will be as well. I sense a trend lol.

navyguy21

they said 2 discs during the gamespot thing. The good news is there is no texture popin and load times they say are greatly improved plus ultra fast framerates. ODST is also 2 discs. They said that during the gamespot thign as well, although the second disc for that one is just all the expansion stuff from halo 3 and other stuff for multiplayer and stuff i believe.

i honestly would rather everything be on one disc. BEing forced to do huge installs is not right by microsoft. it's not that big a deal, the games will work fine, but it's still cheesy on microsofts part. it's definately not ideal. they are kind of stretching the 360 beyond it's limits at this point. which if it equals good games and 2 discs id rather than than nothing, but still... the 360 will have great games that are on par with anything else on the market that's the good thing. It's just kind of cheesy.

the disc drive in the 360 is dated

so is the processor

these are two advantages sony has. I've said this all along. Can the 360 still make great games and compete? sure but they are stretching things beyond their limit at this point. For this coming year the 360 is going to be awesome but it's going to start showing it's limitations really soon if it isn't already. They are pretty much pushing it to its limit and past at this point. I own one and actually think it's going to be better than the ps3 for the next year, but after that it really is toast.

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[QUOTE="PS_John"]It's laughable how people say that blu-ray is not needed. I guess those people will have to eat their words nowPS_John

I wonder how many hours did you lost in your life just on PS3s mandatory instals :P

the funny part is that PS3 games need those mandatory installs to make loadings run as faster as 360 ones ;)

[QUOTE="Ambli"]

[QUOTE="PS_John"]It's laughable how people say that blu-ray is not needed. I guess those people will have to eat their words nowPS_John

I don't see how it is needed for this.

Sure it makes it so you don't have to load the extra content, but you can still play the game.

And I won't be getting Forza 3. Don't like racing games.

You can't see how it's needed for this?? Maybe so they can actually fit the game on 1 disc???

Anyway a quick google search backs up what I'm saying:

Results 1 - 10 of about 145,000,000 for blu ray is needed. (0.18 seconds)
Results 1 - 10 of about 20,500,000 for blu ray is not needed. (0.50 seconds)

Using Google results to back up stupid claims? That's such a PS_John thing to do ;)

Anyway, it's no big deal for me if I can install the second disc to my hard drive.

Wow space must be getting pretty tight for the 360 if a racing game needs 2 disc. He says "Disc two includes a lot of extra cars, even a handful of tracks." So if i want to play with "x" car i have to change disc ?? then if i want to use a different track or car thats not on disc 2 i have to swap again ?? micky4889

Yeah...it sounds a bit odd!

I think it could work better the way GT2 did. 1 disc for career mode and the other for arcade, multiplayer, etc

Looks like my Elite is starting to come in handy.

That seems like a really weird split... How the **** will that even work? Those cars and tracks have to be omitted from the career mode, or treated seperately somehow. You will only be able to race disc 2 cars on disc 2 tracks. How will multiplayer work with that stuff? Sounds immensely stupid.

This was expected to happen some time. Now I guess it's time for X360 owners to support MS even more by buying the overpriced hdd's from them..LOL. While PS3 owners can buy one from anyone and anywhere. I have said it all along, BD is needed.

Some people here have talked about the sound quality in games, and the winner here is the PS3. The reason for this is mainly because of the higher bitrate on the sound sampling it can have because of BD, not the 7.1 compared to 5.1. To get more space available on each disc on the X360, they sacrifice the bitrate and the amount of sound, because this takes up a lot of space. Remember, X360 only have 6.8GB available on each disc. Try out the first Uncharted game which supports DTS and PCM surround, this game have every game beat in the sound department. Most PS3 exclusives has better sound than other games.

Expect GT5 to be at least 30GB!!!

Wow space must be getting pretty tight for the 360 if a racing game needs 2 disc. He says "Disc two includes a lot of extra cars, even a handful of tracks." So if i want to play with "x" car i have to change disc ?? then if i want to use a different track or car thats not on disc 2 i have to swap again ?? micky4889

I hope not... hopefully devs are working on the best solution in having least possible disk swapping..

Still though that wont keep me from getting the game, Forza is a great racing franchise & Forza3 will surely be an amazing title..

people with small harddrives or no harddrive at all are going to get squeezed.

Walker34

[QUOTE="horgen123"][QUOTE="DJ_Lae"]Sounds kind of like expanding Rock Band 2 with content from the Rock Band disc. Kind of annoying (I only have a 20GB drive), but given how much Turn 10 I can fit in my mouth, I'm all over it.delta3074

me too! I still have 7gb free in my 20gb hd! I think there will be no mandatory instal for forza and any other 360 title.....Anyways if thats the case ill get a bigger one

[QUOTE="micky4889"]Wow space must be getting pretty tight for the 360 if a racing game needs 2 disc. He says "Disc two includes a lot of extra cars, even a handful of tracks." So if i want to play with "x" car i have to change disc ?? then if i want to use a different track or car thats not on disc 2 i have to swap again ?? PAL360

Yeah...it sounds a bit odd!

I think it could work better the way GT2 did. 1 disc for career mode and the other for arcade, multiplayer, etc

120GB HDD ftw!

Changing the disc in the middle of the track FTL... ;)

Epak_

It's laughable how people say that blu-ray is not needed. I guess those people will have to eat their words nowPS_John

Blu-Ray is the reason the PS3 is in last place, don't forget that when you're mocking the disc swapping.

Man Forza 3 is going to be huge.

gago-gago

[QUOTE="gago-gago"]

Man Forza 3 is going to be huge.

planbfreak4eva

Thing is though GT Mobile is on psp which means the textures wont be as high-res than on Forza3. Plus you also gotta count sound