Forza Motorsport 3 will ship with two discs

[QUOTE="II-FBIsniper-II"][QUOTE="Gxgear"]

Switching disks in-game is so last gen.

Gxgear

How does that work with the $200 dollar 360 arcade version that lemmings seems to own? I say this because the 200 dollar figure is being used in EVERY PS3/360 comparison threads.

I still don't see how this means Blu-Ray is needed since this game is still gonna be released not on Blu-Ray.waynehead895

I still don't see how this means Blu-Ray is needed since this game is still gonna be released not on Blu-Ray.waynehead895

Blu-ray isn't needed, it was said that the full game experience can be played, but disc two will be EXTRA content that I'm quite sure would've just been released as DLC at a later date anyway.

[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

[QUOTE="II-FBIsniper-II"] Good thing you don't have to do that with Forza 3.II-FBIsniper-II

How does that work with the $200 dollar 360 arcade version that lemmings seems to own? I say this because the 200 dollar figure is being used in EVERY PS3/360 comparison threads.

I highly doubt 512mb of memory can accomodate anything else other than save files/updates. Nice try though.

[QUOTE="waynehead895"]I still don't see how this means Blu-Ray is needed since this game is still gonna be released not on Blu-Ray.furomaster_99

[QUOTE="II-FBIsniper-II"][QUOTE="Gxgear"]

How does that work with the $200 dollar 360 arcade version that lemmings seems to own? I say this because the 200 dollar figure is being used in EVERY PS3/360 comparison threads.

Gxgear

I highly doubt 512mb of memory can accomodate anything else other than save files/updates. Nice try though.

[QUOTE="PS_John"]

[QUOTE="Ambli"]

I don't see how it is needed for this.

Sure it makes it so you don't have to load the extra content, but you can still play the game.

And I won't be getting Forza 3. Don't like racing games.

delta3074

You can't see how it's needed for this?? Maybe so they can actually fit the game on 1 disc???

Anyway a quick google search backs up what I'm saying:

Results 1 - 10 of about 145,000,000 for blu ray is needed. (0.18 seconds)
Results 1 - 10 of about 20,500,000 for blu ray is not needed. (0.50 seconds)

That means you have to buy the overpriced hdd.

furomaster_99

[QUOTE="furomaster_99"]

[QUOTE="waynehead895"]I still don't see how this means Blu-Ray is needed since this game is still gonna be released not on Blu-Ray.waynehead895

[QUOTE="II-FBIsniper-II"][QUOTE="Gxgear"]

How does that work with the $200 dollar 360 arcade version that lemmings seems to own? I say this because the 200 dollar figure is being used in EVERY PS3/360 comparison threads.

Gxgear

I highly doubt 512mb of memory can accomodate anything else other than save files/updates. Nice try though.

[QUOTE="PS_John"]

[QUOTE="speedsix"]

Blu-Ray is the reason the PS3 is in last place, don't forget that when you're mocking the disc swapping.

The_Game21x

Am I meant to care that the PS3 is in last place sales wise? It doesn't affect me at all :S

PS3 has the best games library now and no one can argue with that. The exclusive games like MGS4 let devs take advantage of bluray and the cell.

Games > Sales

I've noticed how Sheep and Leemings never boast about their games when comparing them to the PS3, it's always sales.. I wonder why???

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="PS_John"]

Am I meant to care that the PS3 is in last place sales wise? It doesn't affect me at all :S

PS3 has the best games library now and no one can argue with that. The exclusive games like MGS4 let devs take advantage of bluray and the cell.

Games > Sales

I've noticed how Sheep and Leemings never boast about their games when comparing them to the PS3, it's always sales.. I wonder why???

RushKing

No it doesn't. It's tied with the 360 in terms of AAA exclusives and the 360 has several more AA and A rated exclusives.

And no, I'm not counting PC/360 games in those numbers.

[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

[QUOTE="II-FBIsniper-II"] You either don't use the content or download it onto the internal memory of the arcade version (if it fits). As far as I know, the second disc is only a download disc. There would be no reason to switch to it.The_Game21x

I highly doubt 512mb of memory can accomodate anything else other than save files/updates. Nice try though.

Lol now who's the one trying way too hard? I see you shop around for deals.

I just wanted to point out that most don't own a 360 sans HDD, regardless of how one got it. Yet arcades pricepoint is being used as a valid arguement is beyond me. At the most you can say that I'm slightly off topic but whatever.

Halo, Gears, Fable and Dead or alive are the only AAA titles on the 360.RushKing

Wrong. :|

Look at this spreadsheet before you post again. It's best to know what you're talking about before you post.

I still don't see how this means Blu-Ray is needed since this game is still gonna be released not on Blu-Ray.waynehead895

[QUOTE="RushKing"]Halo, Gears, Fable and Dead or alive are the only AAA titles on the 360.The_Game21x

Wrong. :|

Look at this spreadsheet before you post again. It's best to know what you're talking about before you post.

[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

[QUOTE="II-FBIsniper-II"] You either don't use the content or download it onto the internal memory of the arcade version (if it fits). As far as I know, the second disc is only a download disc. There would be no reason to switch to it.II-FBIsniper-II

I highly doubt 512mb of memory can accomodate anything else other than save files/updates. Nice try though.

"(no it doesn't fit)"

Installs can easily go over.

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

[QUOTE="RushKing"]Halo, Gears, Fable and Dead or alive are the only AAA titles on the 360.RushKing

Wrong. :|

Look at this spreadsheet before you post again. It's best to know what you're talking about before you post.

[QUOTE="RushKing"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

Wrong. :|

Look at this spreadsheet before you post again. It's best to know what you're talking about before you post.

deangallop

Lol now who's the one trying way too hard? I see you shop around for deals.

I just wanted to point out that most don't own a 360 sans HDD, regardless of how one got it. Yet arcades pricepoint is being used as a valid arguement is beyond me. At the most you can say that I'm slightly off topic but whatever.

Gxgear

Shopping around for deals? This is stuff I looked up on my own, weeks before this argument even began.

The Arcade is a perfectly valid argument because it exists. The fact of the matter is, if a prospective customer is in a store looking to buy a new console, they can buy an Xbox 360 Arcade for $200. There's no debating that.

Would I buy one? Sure. I'd buy it before I bought a Pro console because I know I can get a 120GB HDD to go with my Arcade, getting double the space the Pro system offers for less than the price of the Pro.

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

[QUOTE="RushKing"]Halo, Gears, Fable and Dead or alive are the only AAA titles on the 360.RushKing

Wrong. :|

Look at this spreadsheet before you post again. It's best to know what you're talking about before you post.

i have ign as my sourceRushKing

[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

Lol now who's the one trying way too hard? I see you shop around for deals.

I just wanted to point out that most don't own a 360 sans HDD, regardless of how one got it. Yet arcades pricepoint is being used as a valid arguement is beyond me. At the most you can say that I'm slightly off topic but whatever.

The_Game21x

Shopping around for deals? This is stuff I looked up on my own, weeks before this argument even began.

The Arcade is a perfectly valid argument because it exists. The fact of the matter is, if a prospective customer is in a store looking to buy a new console, they can buy an Xbox 360 Arcade for $200. There's no debating that.

Would I buy one? Sure. I'd buy it before I bought a Pro console because I know I can get a 120GB HDD to go with my Arcade, getting double the space the Pro system offers for less than the price of the Pro.

So you pretty much just agreed with me...what seems to be the problem?

I shop around for deals too, I didn't say you just googled a bunch of stuff for this post.

[QUOTE="RushKing"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

Wrong. :|

Look at this spreadsheet before you post again. It's best to know what you're talking about before you post.

The_Game21x

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="RushKing"] i have ign as my sourceRushKing

[QUOTE="RushKing"]

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"] Then go to the IGN forums. This is GameSpot and because of that, we use GameSpot scores in arguments here.The_Game21x

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="RushKing"] Uncharted is alot better than 8 imo.

RushKing

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="RushKing"] Uncharted is alot better than 8 imo.

RushKing

I know it probably has been mentioned already but...

Gran Turismo 2, two discs. One for Arcade Mode and one for Simulation Mode.

And I have no problem installing a game. I always have room for one on my HDD and it takes 5 minutes and blasts load times away.

Still no release date for GT5 though. At least we're getting a game. You know, one with more than 76 cars, 6 tracks and 720p racing. 400 cars, 100 tracks and 60fps 1080p racing.

foxhound_fox

[QUOTE="PS_John"]

[QUOTE="Ambli"]

I don't see how it is needed for this.

Sure it makes it so you don't have to load the extra content, but you can still play the game.

And I won't be getting Forza 3. Don't like racing games.

delta3074

You can't see how it's needed for this?? Maybe so they can actually fit the game on 1 disc???

Anyway a quick google search backs up what I'm saying:

Results 1 - 10 of about 145,000,000 for blu ray is needed. (0.18 seconds)
Results 1 - 10 of about 20,500,000 for blu ray is not needed. (0.50 seconds)

Pc gamers aren't limited to a maximum HDD size of 120GB. You will reach a point were you will have to install and delete between games when you run out of space. Face it Micro$oft really screwed the arcade users, i can see them releasing a bigger HDD and slugging everyone money to buy it

Ehm....GT5p has a lot more details and better graphics than any other racer to date. It's great that you finally are getting a next gen racer, but don't assume too much. Forza 3 will probably be 60 fps, but don't assume it will be 1080p. It will probably be 980x1080p native, just like GT5p. It only upscales the 980 part. And by the looks of it, GT5 will be a lot bigger than Forza 3. With Nascar, Rally, pikes peak races, and all the other stuff.

Martin_G_N

Yeah, blu-ray isn't needed at all :roll::lol:

Yeah, blu-ray isn't needed at all :roll::lol:

thelastguy

[QUOTE="thelastguy"]

Yeah, blu-ray isn't needed at all :roll::lol:

The_Game21x

I was being a little bit of both

Most games have trouble filling up a DVD9, but saying it is completely useless is wrong. It is needed for those few games that are that large and ambitious.

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

[QUOTE="thelastguy"]

Yeah, blu-ray isn't needed at all :roll::lol:

thelastguy

I was being a little bit of both

Most games have trouble filling up a DVD9, but saying it is completely useless is wrong. It is needed for those few games that are that large and ambitious.

[QUOTE="thelastguy"]

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"] I'm pretty sure you were being sarcastic (and by pretty sure, I mean 100% positive) with that statement but you're right. Blu-Ray isn't needed and the fact that Forza 2 is shipping with two discs doesn't change that.

The_Game21x

I was being a little bit of both

Most games have trouble filling up a DVD9, but saying it is completely useless is wrong. It is needed for those few games that are that large and ambitious.

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="thelastguy"]

I was being a little bit of both

Most games have trouble filling up a DVD9, but saying it is completely useless is wrong. It is needed for those few games that are that large and ambitious.

waynehead895

What will lems say when the next xbox has blueray?

What will lems say when the next xbox has blueray?

furomaster_99

Changing the disc in the middle of the track FTL... ;)

Epak_

[QUOTE="waynehead895"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"] Saying it is useless is entirely wrong, I agree 100%.The_Game21x

I think the fact that a racing game is coming on 2 discs if proof that it is needed for some games, you can keep trying to downplay it by saying you can just install but face it the arcade owners are screwed.

According to this interview the cars and tracks are going to be split between disc 1 and disc 2 this means arcade owner that want to use a car from disc 2 he/she has to swap disc then he/she wants to use a track/car from disc 1, swap again, after that race is over they want a track from disc 2, swap again.

It's going to be a serious swap fest for the poor arcade owners.

I think the fact that a racing game is coming on 2 discs if proof that it is needed for some games, you can keep trying to downplay it by saying you can just install but face it the arcade owners are screwed.

According to this interview the cars and tracks are going to be split between disc 1 and disc 2 this means arcade owner that want to use a car from disc 2 he/she has to swap disc then he/she wants to use a track/car from disc 1, swap again, after that race is over they want a track from disc 2, swap again.

It's going to be a serious swap fest for the poor arcade owners.

micky4889