FPSs are starting to feel the same. The genre needs to evolve.

The multiplayer maps in first person shooters just suck now, they are boring/simplistic they might look cool but they just play crappy.

I played quake 2 main gate map for deathmatch from 1997-2001 and never got bored because the design was great, another great map is hollywood holocaust for duke nukem 3d.

hahayoukidding

For those of you who are bored of the FPS genre, maybe you guys should try Zeno Clash when its released...

Its an action/fighting game with FPS elements (with spears/arrows as weapons NOT guns)

As time passes, there will be fewer new ideas left for developers. There's only so much you can do in a FPS and I don't really blame devs for sticking with tried-and-tested formulae. Think of those WWII shooters. Apart from MOH: Airborne which let you parachute into the battle, all the other games are pretty much the same. The only thing that draws people to it (myself at least) are the new stories. But they're going to run out of WWII battles to make games of eventually and then what? Who knows...

Yeah, never been a huge fan of FPS games since the majority have always been like that to me, this is nothing new but I disagree, FPS have even more variety nowadays, sure the straightforward shoot-run-shoot-cover ones are still predominant but there are many out there who aren't like that and many of those can still be fun since L4D taught me that adding a few new elements and a nice premise can still make the run and shoot gameplay feel fresh.

I agree wit hthe last part though, I definitely want to see more puzzle solving/exploring on FPS.

u should try crysis if u have a nice computer. i do know what ur talking about. i think halo is one of those games u play and wounder why i'm playing this game. there are a lot of FPS games out there.

i think crysis is a great new type of FPS. i played it is fun game. it is open ended world so u can wounder around, there are suit abilities, like more armor, sprint fast, turn invisible, super strength. instead of just shooting at a person u can run up and choke the person then through him. modd a gun when u unlock new weapon abilites, like a dot site, flash light, scope. iam2green

If only Crysis wasn't a dull no-innovation game. Other than it's openness, it's not too far from those generic shooters TC is talking about.

Yeah, never been a huge fan of FPS games since the majority have always been like that to me, this is nothing new but I disagree, FPS have even more variety nowadays, sure the straightforward shoot-run-shoot-cover ones are still predominant but there are many out there who aren't like that and many of those can still be fun since L4D taught me that adding a few new elements and a nice premise can still make the run and shoot gameplay feel fresh.

I agree wit hthe last part though, I definitely want to see more puzzle solving/exploring on FPS.

[QUOTE="iam2green"]u should try crysis if u have a nice computer. i do know what ur talking about. i think halo is one of those games u play and wounder why i'm playing this game. there are a lot of FPS games out there.

i think crysis is a great new type of FPS. i played it is fun game. it is open ended world so u can wounder around, there are suit abilities, like more armor, sprint fast, turn invisible, super strength. instead of just shooting at a person u can run up and choke the person then through him. modd a gun when u unlock new weapon abilites, like a dot site, flash light, scope. Dystopian-X

If only Crysis wasn't a dull no-innovation game. Other than it's openness, it's not too far from those generic shooters TC is talking about.

S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Shadow of Chernobyl was one of the most unique and best shooters I've ever played. I think people need to stop looking towards games like Gears and Halo for innovation... all they concentrate on is bringing out the next iteration that rehashes the same gameplay for the nth time.foxhound_fox

[QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"][QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"] The first to evolve or the first to die?Cherokee_Jack

The first to evolve. System Shock 2 and Deus Ex started different things not just shooting.

Fixed that for ya.

u should try crysis if u have a nice computer. i do know what ur talking about. i think halo is one of those games u play and wounder why i'm playing this game. there are a lot of FPS games out there.

i think crysis is a great new type of FPS. i played it is fun game. it is open ended world so u can wounder around, there are suit abilities, like more armor, sprint fast, turn invisible, super strength. instead of just shooting at a person u can run up and choke the person then through him. modd a gun when u unlock new weapon abilites, like a dot site, flash light, scope. iam2green

After playing Crysis, I thought CoD4, Halo, WaW, etc. etc. were all pretty bland and boring when it came to single player gameplay. I love single player games and we need more games that focus on the single player aspect like Crysis, Stalker, and Cryostasis.

We have a plethora of multiplayer based games, we don't need any more really. lol

u should try crysis if u have a nice computer. i do know what ur talking about. i think halo is one of those games u play and wounder why i'm playing this game. there are a lot of FPS games out there.

i think crysis is a great new type of FPS. i played it is fun game. it is open ended world so u can wounder around, there are suit abilities, like more armor, sprint fast, turn invisible, super strength. instead of just shooting at a person u can run up and choke the person then through him. modd a gun when u unlock new weapon abilites, like a dot site, flash light, scope. iam2green

I dunno im a big time pc gamer but I still haven't played the first crysis (i.e. actually sit down at home and play it). I could easily barrow a copy from work and even crysis warhead but meh don't feel like it. I got a q6600, 4gb ram, ati 4870 1gb, etc.. so its not like I couldn't run the game either. I've messed around with it a bit at work but like its pretty meh at least imo. Graphically though it stomps everything.

Cryostasis is pretty different. It seems only Americans are unable to evolve. ;)110million

[QUOTE="iam2green"]u should try crysis if u have a nice computer. i do know what ur talking about. i think halo is one of those games u play and wounder why i'm playing this game. there are a lot of FPS games out there.

i think crysis is a great new type of FPS. i played it is fun game. it is open ended world so u can wounder around, there are suit abilities, like more armor, sprint fast, turn invisible, super strength. instead of just shooting at a person u can run up and choke the person then through him. modd a gun when u unlock new weapon abilites, like a dot site, flash light, scope. sh0vet

I dunno im a big time pc gamer but I still haven't played the first crysis (i.e. actually sit down at home and play it). I could easily barrow a copy from work and even crysis warhead but meh don't feel like it. I got a q6600, 4gb ram, ati 4870 1gb, etc.. so its not like I couldn't run the game either. I've messed around with it a bit at work but like its pretty meh at least imo. Graphically though it stomps everything.

I agree.I've got a similar rig to yours and can play Crysis:WH with a lot of the eye candy.As a technical achievement its unsurpassed,I mean its stunning.But as far as the actaul gamplay is concerned it really isn't anything special imo.

How come no one has really mentioned Left 4 Dead? That game showed us why we (most of us that is) love the FPS genre. While it didn't bring lots of new stuff to the table, it took all the rubbish stuff like crazy non-gameplay-related effects, horrible stories and useless open-worldness and cut it all down to the true core of the FPS genre: adrenaline-filled action and your fight to survive (with friends!).

That's why Left 4 Dead was one of the best games of 2008.

[QUOTE="110million"]Cryostasis is pretty different. It seems only Americans are unable to evolve. ;)DragonfireXZ95

[QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"][QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"] The first to evolve or the first to die?Cherokee_Jack

The first to evolve. System Shock 2 and Deus Ex started different things not just shooting.

Fixed that for ya.

[QUOTE="world69star69"]I take it you haven't played the killzone 2 demo yet? Baseless assumptions on a game never played? Play it! It renders all other shooters obsolete! I tried playing call of duty waw and resistance after the K2 demo and they feel very shallow. After playing k2, a fps that feels different. It has weight and great graphics but the gameplay is where it really shines. I played the demo 10 times already. I need more!!! I haven't felt this way about a shooter since the Quake when 3d cards came on the scene or back even further with wolf 3d and doom. This game is a genre changer, and until you try it your just going to say it's just a generic fps...but it's not!! Not at all! It brings feeling to the game, I really can't explain it, you have to try it out to know what i am talking about. I hate the fact now that every fps I play will pale in comparison. I just hope that Guerrilla Games either licenses their engine to other ps3 devs or lets Sony give it to first party devs... Resistance 3 with k2 engine....that would rock! goblaa

I played it too and that's a load of BS. KZ2 is a very very very good super super super traditional unorignal do-nothing-new shooter.

[QUOTE="goblaa"]

[QUOTE="world69star69"]I take it you haven't played the killzone 2 demo yet? Baseless assumptions on a game never played? Play it! It renders all other shooters obsolete! I tried playing call of duty waw and resistance after the K2 demo and they feel very shallow. After playing k2, a fps that feels different. It has weight and great graphics but the gameplay is where it really shines. I played the demo 10 times already. I need more!!! I haven't felt this way about a shooter since the Quake when 3d cards came on the scene or back even further with wolf 3d and doom. This game is a genre changer, and until you try it your just going to say it's just a generic fps...but it's not!! Not at all! It brings feeling to the game, I really can't explain it, you have to try it out to know what i am talking about. I hate the fact now that every fps I play will pale in comparison. I just hope that Guerrilla Games either licenses their engine to other ps3 devs or lets Sony give it to first party devs... Resistance 3 with k2 engine....that would rock! Soulja_West

I played it too and that's a load of BS. KZ2 is a very very very good super super super traditional unorignal do-nothing-new shooter.

physics need to be drastically improved, as well as AIHeydanbud92

[QUOTE="Heydanbud92"]physics need to be drastically improved, as well as AIJohnny-n-Roger

so better animations? That goes along with physics in a way.

Physics based animations are the future. Physics based everything is the future.

The quake franchise was actually dumbed down for newbies.

Quake 1/2 the online deathmatch maps were the single player, with quake 3 arena they made maps only for online play and the maps ended up being too simplistic and boring and made for noobs so they dont get stuck on stuff.

hahayoukidding

[QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"][QUOTE="Heydanbud92"]physics need to be drastically improved, as well as AIHeydanbud92

so better animations? That goes along with physics in a way.

Physics based animations are the future. Physics based everything is the future.

What about Mirror's Edge? tho it's not my type of game.

Anyway, I would like to see more shooters like Rainbow Six and Unreal Tournament 2004 with platforming element to add more depth to the game.

Only 3 weeks and it will. Can you say KZ2.djsifer01

[QUOTE="djsifer01"]Only 3 weeks and it will. Can you say KZ2.Cherokee_Jack

If you think shooters are feeling the same, you need to stop playing mainstream shooters. If you want original and GOOD shooters, look no further than STALKER: Shadow of Chernobyl (or maybe STALKER Clear Sky, but I personally think that it sucks.)HenriH-42

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"][QUOTE="djsifer01"]Only 3 weeks and it will. Can you say KZ2.dark-warmachine

[QUOTE="Soulja_West"][QUOTE="goblaa"]

I played it too and that's a load of BS. KZ2 is a very very very good super super super traditional unorignal do-nothing-new shooter.

PBSnipes

Yeah, never been a huge fan of FPS games since the majority have always been like that to me, this is nothing new but I disagree, FPS have even more variety nowadays, sure the straightforward shoot-run-shoot-cover ones are still predominant but there are many out there who aren't like that and many of those can still be fun since L4D taught me that adding a few new elements and a nice premise can still make the run and shoot gameplay feel fresh.

I agree wit hthe last part though, I definitely want to see more puzzle solving/exploring on FPS.

[QUOTE="iam2green"]u should try crysis if u have a nice computer. i do know what ur talking about. i think halo is one of those games u play and wounder why i'm playing this game. there are a lot of FPS games out there.

i think crysis is a great new type of FPS. i played it is fun game. it is open ended world so u can wounder around, there are suit abilities, like more armor, sprint fast, turn invisible, super strength. instead of just shooting at a person u can run up and choke the person then through him. modd a gun when u unlock new weapon abilites, like a dot site, flash light, scope. Dystopian-X

If only Crysis wasn't a dull no-innovation game. Other than it's openness, it's not too far from those generic shooters TC is talking about.