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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] Your missing the time element of all this 8 month compared to 2 years is a short amount of time. Ohh i'm glad you can tell the future. Who knows. And lemme guess 7 halos in 10 years is ok than right?
charizard1605
You have a point, 8 months isn't very long to make a game. It would be short and have no graphic upgrades. Let's hope this isn't MS milking the series like it's COD every year.
Hope it's good for the Gears fans.
I really want to stay away from this argument, but dude, don't act daft. Just because it was announced in eight months doesn't mean it had an eight month development cycle, come on now...That is true, we don't really know. It could have been in development longer, so who knows? I don't expect it to have better graphics than Gears 3, 360 doesn't have much power left anymore.
As long as it makes the Gears fans happy then that's all well and good.
Microsofts E3 conference is gonna be pretty sick with Halo 4 and now a new Gears. There was also a rumor in OXM earlier this year that PGR5 is gonna be announced there. Hope its true.JohnnyCageMKWait the conference is gonna be sick with the same games I saw last year :lol:
The PS4 will not have backwards compatibility with the PS3 in all likelihood because Sony is supposed to be ditching the Cell and going with a new architecture entirely. If you think that disc formats are all that's needed for backwards compatibility, then you're an idiot and I laugh at you.[QUOTE="RulerofGondor"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]
Those are all just rumors. But if PS4 does launch first it will put Sony ahead of MS and they will get the most support early on, leading them to having a bigger install base similar to what 360 did by launching early.
Only thing though is Sony would have to price the PS4 smart and make it have BC with PS3. Which would be easy and not increase cost at all as Blu Ray to Blu Ray BC is simple. It's the same exact format.
Sony would have to have strong launch games to do it, like Uncharted 4, Killzone 4, LBP 3 ect..
ShadowMoses900
You know this? How? Do you have a time machine?
And similar format is easy, architecture isn't that big of a deal. Wii is fully BC with GC even though the Wii has different architecture (it has to for Motion Control). It's just more difficult to go from DVD to Blu Ray formats for games, it is expensive to do that. Which is partly why PS3 launch price cost so much.
Blu Ray to Blu Ray format would be easy and have virtually no cost attached to it.
Dude, you're high. The Wii is literally using the exact same architecture, CPU, GPU as the Gamecube, just overclocked and backed by higher system memory. What do motion controls have to do with it at all? Do you know anything at all about how computing works? :lol: And I know this because SONY SAID SO THEMSELVES, they have hinter multiple times that the Cell project was a failure in context of gaming. I mean... because PS4 is Blu Ray, backwards compatibility with PS3 will be easy, and Wii has a different architecture than Gamecube because it has motion controls. That is some quote worthy stuff right there :lol:[QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"]Microsofts E3 conference is gonna be pretty sick with Halo 4 and now a new Gears. There was also a rumor in OXM earlier this year that PGR5 is gonna be announced there. Hope its true.Animal-MotherWait the conference is gonna be sick with the same games I saw last year :lol: I'm sure you'll be drooling over Last of Us which was at the VGAs and a pathetic Smash Bros ripoff.
I really want to stay away from this argument, but dude, don't act daft. Just because it was announced in eight months doesn't mean it had an eight month development cycle, come on now...[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]
You have a point, 8 months isn't very long to make a game. It would be short and have no graphic upgrades. Let's hope this isn't MS milking the series like it's COD every year.
Hope it's good for the Gears fans.
ShadowMoses900
That is true, we don't really know. It could have been in development longer, so who knows? I don't expect it to have better graphics than Gears 3, 360 doesn't have much power left anymore.
As long as it makes the Gears fans happy then that's all well and good.
Neither the Xbox 360 nor the PS3 have any more power left in them anymore. They're both done, which is why we need a new set of consoles pronto.I really want to stay away from this argument, but dude, don't act daft. Just because it was announced in eight months doesn't mean it had an eight month development cycle, come on now...[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]
You have a point, 8 months isn't very long to make a game. It would be short and have no graphic upgrades. Let's hope this isn't MS milking the series like it's COD every year.
Hope it's good for the Gears fans.
ShadowMoses900
That is true, we don't really know. It could have been in development longer, so who knows? I don't expect it to have better graphics than Gears 3, 360 doesn't have much power left anymore.
As long as it makes the Gears fans happy then that's all well and good.
Just because it won't have better graphics means it's not worth developing? Wow. *dramatic clap*[QUOTE="casharmy"]
[QUOTE="charizard1605"] It's confirmed for the 360ShadowMoses900
that blows my scocks off if true because logically it would mean that they need to support the 360 for at least another year because we know that MS doesn't release their big games until the end of the year.
I want to see how this plays out or if it even ends up being true because there are rumors of PS4 dropping next year and I really don't see MS supporting 360 while tring to cash in on a new product....that means, if sony puts out their new console, I don't believe MS will wait to release theirs and still support 360.
Those are all just rumors. But if PS4 does launch first it will put Sony ahead of MS and they will get the most support early on, leading them to having a bigger install base similar to what 360 did by launching early.
Only thing though is Sony would have to price the PS4 smart and make it have BC with PS3. Which would be easy and not increase cost at all as Blu Ray to Blu Ray BC is simple. It's the same exact format.
Sony would have to have strong launch games to do it, like Uncharted 4, Killzone 4, LBP 3 ect..
you must be kidding yourself, of all things MS will never let that happen.
[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"]Microsofts E3 conference is gonna be pretty sick with Halo 4 and now a new Gears. There was also a rumor in OXM earlier this year that PGR5 is gonna be announced there. Hope its true.JohnnyCageMKWait the conference is gonna be sick with the same games I saw last year :lol: I'm sure you'll be drooling over Last of Us which was at the VGAs and a pathetic Smash Bros ripoff.
Wait so i'm a sony fan now?
How do you know i'm not excited for seeing MGS:Re-vengeance? Or Hopefully they announce mirrors edge 2 SOny all stars looks absolutely stupid :lol:
MS has shown Forza, Gears, Halo & Cod EVERY year. They've never show any new core titles aside from those.
Why doesn't this surprise me...I like the Gears franchise but they really should slow down...I mean the trilogy ended just last year :?
MS is still in the same pattern of Halo, Forza, Gears, and Fable.
[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"][QUOTE="RulerofGondor"] The PS4 will not have backwards compatibility with the PS3 in all likelihood because Sony is supposed to be ditching the Cell and going with a new architecture entirely. If you think that disc formats are all that's needed for backwards compatibility, then you're an idiot and I laugh at you.RulerofGondor
You know this? How? Do you have a time machine?
And similar format is easy, architecture isn't that big of a deal. Wii is fully BC with GC even though the Wii has different architecture (it has to for Motion Control). It's just more difficult to go from DVD to Blu Ray formats for games, it is expensive to do that. Which is partly why PS3 launch price cost so much.
Blu Ray to Blu Ray format would be easy and have virtually no cost attached to it.
Dude, you're high. The Wii is literally using the exact same architecture, CPU, GPU as the Gamecube, just overclocked and backed by higher system memory. What do motion controls have to do with it at all? Do you know anything at all about how computing works? :lol: And I know this because SONY SAID SO THEMSELVES, they have hinter multiple times that the Cell project was a failure in context of gaming. I mean... because PS4 is Blu Ray, backwards compatibility with PS3 will be easy, and Wii has a different architecture than Gamecube because it has motion controls. That is some quote worthy stuff right there :lol:You don't understand, architecture isn't the only thing. 360 has different architecture than Xbox and can do (somewhat) BC with Xbox games, though it's more of an emulator than anything.
BC isn't as difficult like you think. PS4 and blu ray to blu ray BC wouldn't be hard to do at all.
They didn't slow down on Uncharted. 4 of them already.Why doesn't this surprise me...I like the Gears franchise but they really should slow down...I mean the trilogy ended just last year :?
MS is still in the same pattern of Halo, Forza, Gears, and Fable.
-Patrick_92-
Why doesn't this surprise me...I like the Gears franchise but they really should slow down...I mean the trilogy ended just last year :?
MS is still in the same pattern of Halo, Forza, Gears, and Fable.
They didn't slow down on Uncharted. 4 of them already. What does one series have to do with another? He didn't mention anything about Uncharted.Dude, you're high. The Wii is literally using the exact same architecture, CPU, GPU as the Gamecube, just overclocked and backed by higher system memory. What do motion controls have to do with it at all? Do you know anything at all about how computing works? :lol: And I know this because SONY SAID SO THEMSELVES, they have hinter multiple times that the Cell project was a failure in context of gaming. I mean... because PS4 is Blu Ray, backwards compatibility with PS3 will be easy, and Wii has a different architecture than Gamecube because it has motion controls. That is some quote worthy stuff right there :lol:[QUOTE="RulerofGondor"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]
You know this? How? Do you have a time machine?
And similar format is easy, architecture isn't that big of a deal. Wii is fully BC with GC even though the Wii has different architecture (it has to for Motion Control). It's just more difficult to go from DVD to Blu Ray formats for games, it is expensive to do that. Which is partly why PS3 launch price cost so much.
Blu Ray to Blu Ray format would be easy and have virtually no cost attached to it.
ShadowMoses900
You don't understand, architecture isn't the only thing. 360 has different architecture than Xbox and can do (somewhat) BC with Xbox games, though it's more of an emulator than anything.
BC isn't as difficult like you think. PS4 and blu ray to blu ray BC wouldn't be hard to do at all.
Yes, I do understand. The original Xbox is still easy to emulate, because Microsoft gave it a straightforward architecture. The Ps3, on the other hand, has a crazy retarded difficult architecture, with assymetric cores, bottlenecked RAM, and what not. Emulating it is a pain in the ass, just like emulating the PS2 with ITS crazy architecture was a pain in the ass- a reason that the PS3, which uses completely different architecture from PS2, is not backwards compatible with it, and why the PS4 probably won't be BC with PS3.[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] I really want to stay away from this argument, but dude, don't act daft. Just because it was announced in eight months doesn't mean it had an eight month development cycle, come on now...charizard1605
That is true, we don't really know. It could have been in development longer, so who knows? I don't expect it to have better graphics than Gears 3, 360 doesn't have much power left anymore.
As long as it makes the Gears fans happy then that's all well and good.
Neither the Xbox 360 nor the PS3 have any more power left in them anymore. They're both done, which is why we need a new set of consoles pronto.No, devs said themselvs that 360 got maxed out but PS3 is not.
EA has "maxed out" 360, but not PS3" News ? News ? Eurogamer.net-2009
PS3 Not Maxed Out By Killzone 3, says Guerrilla - IndustryGamers-2011
There it is, from the devs themselves. Do you know more than they do? Didn't think so. I listen to devs over some people on a forum
I'm sure you'll be drooling over Last of Us which was at the VGAs and a pathetic Smash Bros ripoff.[QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] Wait the conference is gonna be sick with the same games I saw last year :lol:Animal-Mother
Wait so i'm a sony fan now?
How do you know i'm not excited for seeing MGS:Re-vengeance? Or Hopefully they announce mirrors edge 2 SOny all stars looks absolutely stupid :lol:
MS has shown Forza, Gears, Halo & Cod EVERY year. They've never show any new core titles aside from those.
lol, this thread is heating up.
Basically every non-Nintendo/Valve/Blizzard/Rockstar franchise :PYes, yes...the milkage is strong in this one...and God of War...and Halo...and....
hoola
[QUOTE="-Patrick_92-"]They didn't slow down on Uncharted. 4 of them already.There has been 3 Uncharted games for PS3, and 1 for Vita...that's not going overboard. ND is even making another new IP instead of cashing in on Uncharted 4.Why doesn't this surprise me...I like the Gears franchise but they really should slow down...I mean the trilogy ended just last year :?
MS is still in the same pattern of Halo, Forza, Gears, and Fable.
JohnnyCageMK
[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] I really want to stay away from this argument, but dude, don't act daft. Just because it was announced in eight months doesn't mean it had an eight month development cycle, come on now...khoofia_pika
That is true, we don't really know. It could have been in development longer, so who knows? I don't expect it to have better graphics than Gears 3, 360 doesn't have much power left anymore.
As long as it makes the Gears fans happy then that's all well and good.
Just because it won't have better graphics means it's not worth developing? Wow. *dramatic clap*I never said that :?
As long as the Gears fans are happy then that's all that matters.
Neither the Xbox 360 nor the PS3 have any more power left in them anymore. They're both done, which is why we need a new set of consoles pronto.[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]
That is true, we don't really know. It could have been in development longer, so who knows? I don't expect it to have better graphics than Gears 3, 360 doesn't have much power left anymore.
As long as it makes the Gears fans happy then that's all well and good.
ShadowMoses900
No, devs said themselvs that 360 got maxed out but PS3 is not.
EA has "maxed out" 360, but not PS3" News ? News ? Eurogamer.net-2009
PS3 Not Maxed Out By Killzone 3, says Guerrilla - IndustryGamers-2011
There it is, from the devs themselves. Do you know more than they do? Didn't think so. I listen to devs over some people on a forum
Bioware: PS3 is Maxed Out
So you want to believe developers, hm?
[QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"][QUOTE="-Patrick_92-"]They didn't slow down on Uncharted. 4 of them already.There has been 3 Uncharted games for PS3, and 1 for Vita...that's not going overboard. ND is even making another new IP instead of cashing in on Uncharted 4. 4 Uncharted games in 6 years is not going overboard and 4 Gears games in 7 years is? Seriously? 4 games in 6 years is WAY overboard. And it doesn't matter that one of those games was on a handheld, the franchise still had 4 instalments in just 6 years. Face it, Sony is milking all its franchises.Why doesn't this surprise me...I like the Gears franchise but they really should slow down...I mean the trilogy ended just last year :?
MS is still in the same pattern of Halo, Forza, Gears, and Fable.
-Patrick_92-
[QUOTE="-Patrick_92-"][QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"] They didn't slow down on Uncharted. 4 of them already.khoofia_pikaThere has been 3 Uncharted games for PS3, and 1 for Vita...that's not going overboard. ND is even making another new IP instead of cashing in on Uncharted 4. 4 Uncharted games in 6 years is not going overboard and 4 Gears games in 7 years is? Seriously? 4 games in 6 years is WAY overboard. And it doesn't matter that one of those games was on a handheld, the franchise still had 4 instalments in just 6 years. Face it, Sony is milking all its franchises. See thats not what bothers me. Instead of possibly coercing epic into make a new better IP. They announce gears almost a year after the third one released. I just think it's better to wait it out and see where it goes. I mean do these big devs like cliffy? Or Ken levine ever get tired of working on the same property? I nejoy media black outs for a year or so. Not knowing what the dev may come up next.
[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]
[QUOTE="charizard1605"] Neither the Xbox 360 nor the PS3 have any more power left in them anymore. They're both done, which is why we need a new set of consoles pronto.charizard1605
No, devs said themselvs that 360 got maxed out but PS3 is not.
EA has "maxed out" 360, but not PS3" News ? News ? Eurogamer.net-2009
PS3 Not Maxed Out By Killzone 3, says Guerrilla - IndustryGamers-2011
There it is, from the devs themselves. Do you know more than they do? Didn't think so. I listen to devs over some people on a forum
Bioware: PS3 is Maxed Out
So you want to believe developers, hm?
All devs have different opinions, but all one does is have to look at the games to see the truth. The fact is that many PS3 exclusives look better than anything on 360, the 360 still can't match Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2, and those games came 3 years ago in 2009!
The truth is in the games.
Xbox 360 isn't maxed out, says Epic[QUOTE="charizard1605"]
[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]
No, devs said themselvs that 360 got maxed out but PS3 is not.
EA has "maxed out" 360, but not PS3" News ? News ? Eurogamer.net-2009
PS3 Not Maxed Out By Killzone 3, says Guerrilla - IndustryGamers-2011
There it is, from the devs themselves. Do you know more than they do? Didn't think so. I listen to devs over some people on a forum
ShadowMoses900
Bioware: PS3 is Maxed Out
So you want to believe developers, hm?
All devs have different opinions, but all one does is have to look at the games to see the truth. The fact is that many PS3 exclusives look better than anything on 360, the 360 still can't match Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2, and those games came 3 years ago in 2009!
The truth is in the games.
Oh, so now it's down to the devs opinions, is it? Look dude, stand by what you said. If you will use devs' evidence to prove that one console is maxed out and the other is not, you have to accept it when I use devs evidence to show you the opposite. Games on the Xbox 360 look jawdropping sometimes. Look at Gears of War 3.Neither the Xbox 360 nor the PS3 have any more power left in them anymore. They're both done, which is why we need a new set of consoles pronto.[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]
That is true, we don't really know. It could have been in development longer, so who knows? I don't expect it to have better graphics than Gears 3, 360 doesn't have much power left anymore.
As long as it makes the Gears fans happy then that's all well and good.
ShadowMoses900
No, devs said themselvs that 360 got maxed out but PS3 is not.
EA has "maxed out" 360, but not PS3" News ? News ? Eurogamer.net-2009
PS3 Not Maxed Out By Killzone 3, says Guerrilla - IndustryGamers-2011
There it is, from the devs themselves. Do you know more than they do? Didn't think so. I listen to devs over some people on a forum
BOTH systems maxed out according to BIOWARE 2011
There it is, from the dev themselves. Do you know more than they do? Didn't think so. I listen to devs over some people on a forum
Its a prequel, looks like Marcus handcuffed. Then again it could be anyone handcuffed. Let the "this system is maxed out talk die". You believe that nonsense?
[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]
[QUOTE="charizard1605"] Neither the Xbox 360 nor the PS3 have any more power left in them anymore. They're both done, which is why we need a new set of consoles pronto.charizard1605
No, devs said themselvs that 360 got maxed out but PS3 is not.
EA has "maxed out" 360, but not PS3" News ? News ? Eurogamer.net-2009
PS3 Not Maxed Out By Killzone 3, says Guerrilla - IndustryGamers-2011
There it is, from the devs themselves. Do you know more than they do? Didn't think so. I listen to devs over some people on a forum
Bioware: PS3 is Maxed Out
So you want to believe developers, hm?
not taking sides here but:lol: @ using Bioware as a refrence for saying what the maximum capabilities of PS3 are. haha is that seriously your source of choice for backup in this argument?
Excuse me but what game did Bioware produce that has ever been praised people in the videogame as the best technical graphics on consoles? Which would have you believe they are a valid source to make such an evaluation?
Xbox 360 isn't maxed out, says Epic[QUOTE="charizard1605"]
[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]
No, devs said themselvs that 360 got maxed out but PS3 is not.
EA has "maxed out" 360, but not PS3" News ? News ? Eurogamer.net-2009
PS3 Not Maxed Out By Killzone 3, says Guerrilla - IndustryGamers-2011
There it is, from the devs themselves. Do you know more than they do? Didn't think so. I listen to devs over some people on a forum
casharmy
Bioware: PS3 is Maxed Out
So you want to believe developers, hm?
not taking sides here but:lol: @ using Bioware as a refrence for saying what the maximum capabilities of PS3 are. haha is that seriously your source of choice of backup in this argument?
Excuse me but what game did Bioware produce that has ever been praised people in the videogame as the best technical graphics on consoles? Which would have you believe they are a valid source to make such an evaluation?
The fact that they work on both consoles plus PC should be enough credentials. BUT I also have a quote from Naughty Dog, if you want ;)[QUOTE="khoofia_pika"] 4 Uncharted games in 6 years is not going overboard and 4 Gears games in 7 years is? Seriously? 4 games in 6 years is WAY overboard. And it doesn't matter that one of those games was on a handheld, the franchise still had 4 instalments in just 6 years. Face it, Sony is milking all its franchises.
Glad you can enjoy another Gears game buddy :) but MS is milking their only 4 big titles, and that's all you'll get unless you like Kinect. I actually have all three consoles, so I can enjoy all games :P Thing is, it's not just Microsoft who's milking their franchises. Sony, too, is milking all its franchises BIG TIME. I DID NOT SAY THAT. Get YOUR QUOTES STRAIGHT :pThere's some speculation that this is a prequel trilogy that will be made by People Can Fly, the team behind Bulletstorm.
Haziqonfire
or a Bulletstorm 2
[QUOTE="khoofia_pika"][QUOTE="-Patrick_92-"]There has been 3 Uncharted games for PS3, and 1 for Vita...that's not going overboard. ND is even making another new IP instead of cashing in on Uncharted 4.-Patrick_92-4 Uncharted games in 6 years is not going overboard and 4 Gears games in 7 years is? Seriously? 4 games in 6 years is WAY overboard. And it doesn't matter that one of those games was on a handheld, the franchise still had 4 instalments in just 6 years. Face it, Sony is milking all its franchises. Glad you can enjoy another Gears game buddy :) but MS is milking their only 4 big titles, and that's all you'll get unless you like Kinect. I can actually enjoy all games, I have all three consoles :P My point is, while I agree Microsoft is milking their franchises, and I often bash on them for doing so, they're handling Gears pretty well. Also, Sony is milking its franchises WAY more than is advisable.
[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]
[QUOTE="charizard1605"] Neither the Xbox 360 nor the PS3 have any more power left in them anymore. They're both done, which is why we need a new set of consoles pronto.OhSnapitz
No, devs said themselvs that 360 got maxed out but PS3 is not.
EA has "maxed out" 360, but not PS3" News ? News ? Eurogamer.net-2009
PS3 Not Maxed Out By Killzone 3, says Guerrilla - IndustryGamers-2011
There it is, from the devs themselves. Do you know more than they do? Didn't think so. I listen to devs over some people on a forum
BOTH systems maxed out according to BIOWARE 2011
There it is, from the dev themselves. Do you know more than they do? Didn't think so. I listen to devs over some people on a forum
lol, Bioware wanting to be important when it comes to graphics on consoles..
[QUOTE="khoofia_pika"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]Glad you can enjoy another Gears game buddy :) but MS is milking their only 4 big titles, and that's all you'll get unless you like Kinect.Animal-MotherI actually have all three consoles, so I can enjoy all games :P Thing is, it's not just Microsoft who's milking their franchises. Sony, too, is milking all its franchises BIG TIME. I DID NOT SAY THAT. Get YOUR QUOTES STRAIGHT :p Stupid Gamespot messed up :x
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